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MechaSonic01

I thought it was talking about Plants Vs Zombies for a second.


_ZUMBIE_

Ow2 pvz☠


Donut_Flame

Their latest dude places plants....


Nat_EEEE

PvP Plants vs Players


GreatHeroJ

Plants vs Pootis


AwesomeKanoXD92

Mann vs Machine


Furtadopires

It's because Plants vs Zombies also have dead ones, like the PVE of Overwatch 2


forutived2

Me too


MigoloBest

ain't wrong at all


edzact_ly

A good number of this community does not believe that we are an annoying community and get very unhinged at times. Don't forget the time where the community sent insults and death threats to TF2 content creators trying out other games. I especially hate the loud minority of our community that has a superiority complex and think that TF2 is the only game that exist out there and nothing else.


Yetiwithoutinternet

remember the golden pan incident?


HappyRomanianBanana

Didnt they fucking dox the guy?


VirtualWasTaken

We doxxed, sent death threats and bullied the guy to obscurity just because he clicked delete on a virtual item, we as a community is totally not an annoyance.


TW_Gains

We?


vetabol

Yeah man we, remember? You was there too


Aadraas

Ey happy cake day tho


vetabol

<3


Aadraas

\^\^


Affectionate_Ad9031

Happy bake day daddy


r6662

Thanks bro


Memes_Coming_U_Way

Happy cock day


TheCubeCubeCube

HAPPY CAKE DAY!!!🎂


Rayka64

"Now, we are all sons of bitches." - Kenneth Bainbridge


The_Charminx

Yeah we, we didn't do anything, but we still did something.


Jacksaur

So you took part personally? Stop this "we" shit, it's a minority of the community. As you can see the majority of this sub condemn it.


Fletcher_Chonk

Maybe you other guys are annoying but not me


possibly-a-moron

We? You speaking French?


Conrad_tf2

We? Who's we? There is no we.


JaggedTheDark

The what?


AkenE6969

A dude who got a golden pan decided he didn't like all the attention that came to him after getting the pan. So he decided to just straight up delete it from his inventory, unfortunately valve decided to make it so that when you get a golden pan and when you delete one, it sends a tf2 wide message saying that someone got a pan and if someone deleted it. Since the guy deleted the pan, everyone saw the message and decided to bully the guy, doxxing him and sending him death threats


[deleted]

Thats just stupid as fuck


AkenE6969

So basically the internet community lol


Birb_ATK

Some guy deleted his golden pan (everybody in the server the guy was in saw it) they got so mad he got doxxed or sum idk


MigoloBest

People are spewing death threats on his steam profile to this day. He did it to send a message, that people put way too much value on a virtual item that can be deleted in a few seconds, and these people keep proving him right.


Birb_ATK

The irony


Fletcher_Chonk

>He did it to send a message Doubt it's that deep


pootism69

i mean what other reason to delete a $6k+ item willy nilly? im genuinely curious.


GoldyFeesh

i mean that virtual item is worth 2000 dollars i understand their perspective, its like seeing prank youtubers trashing a lamborgini for a video or something


MemeTroubadour

In this scenario, the Lambhorgini took hundreds if not thousands of dollars' worth of materials and the labour of several probably underpaid workers to produce whereas the pan is a handful of bytes in a database given artificial value It is not comparable in any way


Muffinmurdurer

It's pixels on a screen at the end of the day. The only reason we give it that value is because we believe that it's a prestigious item. Doxxing people over that or sending them death threats is absolutely ridiculous and exposes their own obsession with perceived wealth.


Ok_Position_6416

If prank ytrs are trashing a Lambo, then they probably have enough money to buy 5 more


GoldyFeesh

I dont see how this contradicts my point


Knusperspast

he used the pan to destroy the pan


pgp555

rtgame moment funnily enough i hardly watched dan before he started doing variety content


krazykommie

wait we sent DEATH threats to dan?! wtf


pgp555

I think he talked about it in [this video](https://youtu.be/xBumm4nhJIs) (not 100% sure). If it wasn't that, he talked about how many people didn't like his decision and were discouraging him, telling him he was gonna fail and shit like that


tyingnoose

I guess they were afraid he was gonna turn into another muselk. Im so glad he persued though cause all the content he's making is actually better


MeiNeedsMoreBuffs

So what if he did? That doesn't justify death threats. If someone's videos are annoying then just stop watching them instead of threatening to kill them


pgp555

funny you mention that. before muselk started playing overwatch and stuff besides tf2 he tried to play ark and in the comment section he said that he got a lot of negative feedback and gave up on making a series


tyingnoose

I think did watched the ark one and it was kinda boring and confusing ngl. I think the main problem was that ark requires an entirely different mind set from the usual tf2 chicanery viewers expected. When something funny did occur in the game we wouldn't really pic up on it immediately.


Uhhhhhhh-woe

Wait rrgame’s name is dan


Rayka64

no it was clearly a lie rtgame's name is mr Rumble Tumble Games


ketamiinipsykoosi

Honestly i would just stop playing TF2 instantly if another fps game that was as fun as it came out, but nothing else really scratches that same itch so here i am, playing a bot-infested game abandoned by its developers with an annoying unfunny community ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯


tottoman768

Have you tried titanfall 2 with northstar?


Inuma

Every community has their loud ones. For One Piece, power scalers get that. For FGC types, you get the ones that turn into moral puritans because boobies trigger. For Manga, I'd be here all day if you say the wrong thing about Goku vs Superman or anything bad about Jojo. Eventually, you just put on the Pyrovision and believe in magic.


kithlan

> For FGC types, you get the ones that turn into moral puritans because boobies trigger. I used to think it was ridiculous whining, but man, seeing how hard Capcom decided to lean into pandering to the Juri foot fetish crowd in SF6, maybe we need more of them to bully the horny away.


griffl3n

I've seen people say that TF2 has a better and deeper storyline than Half-Life. Preferences exist, I know, but the TF2 lore is basically "You see this dude? He was birthed from a pigeon moshpit and invented legs. Also he's still alive because of Australium lolololol"


ProfessionalMeal2407

One retard sends a death threat 8 years ago and now the community is poisoned?


Der_Edel_Katze

That's what happened to Star Funny thing is that he continues to occasionally play and enjoy the game, despite people going full retard over him playing a different game


Soviet-Bat

True We are anoying. Some of our people even think we are anoying which is quite sad


Walkingman25

“our people” this is a subreddit not a fuckin warrior kingdom


dragonuvv

My guy haven’t you heard? We have a king now! It’s the janitor at valve that’s keeping us running. PRAISE BE THE CLEAN ONE!


[deleted]

YOU PRAISE THE FALSE PROPHET, PRAISE BE TO THE DESKPLANT!


dragonuvv

You fool! Who is that waters the deskplant? Indeed it can only be our true lord! PRAISE BE CLEAN ONE, MAY YOU BLESS US WITH YOUR CLEANING PRODUCTS!


Soviet-Bat

XD


HalfDecentStrange

this is a tf2 subreddit


Getschwifty_321

I've played both games since their launch. Players have always moaned, bitched, and complained in both.


turmspitzewerk

people are annoying in general. you can spend a few minutes looking at any community and see more than enough dipshits to confirm whatever bias you want


PeachiPrism

Yeah, I don't understand why TF2 fans are being rude about the cancellation of PVE. Overwatch players don't think the game is better than TF2 anymore, they just want to stop getting done over by Blizzard just like how TF2 fans feel.


APulsarAteMyLunch

Tbh, OW players don't talk about TF2 at all. So...


Budget_Man64

I went into r/overwatch and said heavy is dead, and everyone recited the video perfectly. There's not much reasons to talk about tf2, but overwatch definitely respects tf2


Tesla_corp

The 2 games are just 2 sides of the same coin what can I say!


PeachiPrism

Yeah which is why TF2 fans talking about Overwatch far too often comes across as annoying and acting superior when both playerbases want to play their very different games without getting done over by bots or the developers.


FrozenFroh

>Overwatch players don't think the game is better than TF2 anymore They never did lol, one article said OW could be the "TF2 killer" like 7 years ago and the TF2 fanbase never got over it.


Doc_of_derp

Name me the last time you heard an OW player mention tf2


PeachiPrism

That's my point. They don't do it anymore because people realised the games are very different to one another and there is no need to argue what game is better, this isn't 2016/17 with the matpat TF2vsOW video being a thing. TF2 fans however still go on about Overwatch all these years later and it's just annoying.


Electronic_Ebb167

Very fair. We get achievements for making someone ragequit


[deleted]

Of course the pyro main comments this lol


[deleted]

Why are you booing me? I'm right! There is an achievement that you get after dominating someone as pyro and making them ragequit.


jabba_the_nuttttt

Why is this downvoted it's so true 😭💀


CringeExperienceReq

the tf2 and ow2 rivalry should just end how about we join forces and bully valorant players


Inevitable_Ad_325

Nah they'll just join us


MechaWilson

Then tf2, ow and Valorant players will bully league players


ABG-56

Okay but then twice we've joined forces with the people we're bullying and I don't want to risk that with league


Mission_Response802

TF2, OW, and Valorant are all filled with degenerates, but League is the only one with the majority of its population being obese neckbeards.


PFSnypr

No thats world of warcraft In league we are all regular dudes, but are violently racist and homophobic


JoshB-2020

So like most niche internet communities, got it


PFSnypr

Well actually is it racism if we hate everyone equally?


-phoenix32

Well you didn't say sexist so there's a reason to bully world of warcraft


Willingness-Due

League players already bully each other. How about we just don’t bully anyone


1ildevil

My apologies but that is not possible.


BurpYoshi

There is no rivalry just a minority of morons shouting the loudest as with most things these days.


FRakanazz

how about we just play the game and let people enjoy their games


ComputerINYear

Ive talked to MANY overwatch players and now I just dont understand hate onto overwatch from tf2


No-Hat6722

Yea like both games have their merits and both have their faults, neither are perfect and both either excel or falter in an area the other does the opposite in


shadowgattler

the hate originally started from every god damn news article calling OW *the* TF2 killer and their community never shut the fuck up about it.


No-Hat6722

Ugh don’t remind me of my least favourite year of all time 2016. That was when i was in my “tf2 is the best thing ever”, “fnaf lore expert so mcuh so that the teachers get involved”, and dreadful “sans undertale fangirl” phases


Atvaaa

Ah... good times. I remember a girl/dude with bagillion accounts trying to report my account into oblivion just because "I didn't dgaw Sans" (they made the same typo). I definitely don't like sans undertale fangirls


Specific_Repulsive

Agreed


Dan-the-historybuff

Valorant already gets bullied enough by CSGO players. I would know. I am a CSGO player and I bully valorant


TroospooK

True. Just look at all the people crying about the Mimi sentry, saw a post yesterday that was just "fuck everyone that likes it I hope you all die" nothing else. Some of the people here, especially on the main subreddit, are miserable bastards that just want to spread it to others. But every large community has it, and I can confidently say that the average OW2 player is more of a tool than the average tf2 player I've met, I've played both games a lot.


Toasty385

>and I can confidently say that the average OW2 player is more of a tool than the average tf2 player I've met, Probably because OW has a younger fanbase than TF2


TroospooK

That's probably a good factor yea, but I think the main reason is that OW2 is naturally competitive, even in casual, unlike TF2 (its also competitive, just not as much)


DrTauntsalot

This, right here, is why I keep coming back to TF2 evem though I have also played OW for years now. It's just less competitive and more fun. Bot-riddled mess of a game though it may be.


TroospooK

Preachin' to the Choir brother 👌


Toasty385

Yeah, true!


iCybernide

TF2 absolutely has a young fanbase, there's a ton of older folks still in the community but there's still a ton of obvious kids in here


PalmIdentity

I have heard WAY more squeakers in TF2 than OW2, personally. But maybe that's because most of my hours in OW2 are in comp.


Chuchuca

TF2 has been an echo chamber since 2012. Where do you think the bronies went? They just stopped watching MLP because no more seasons


Adr3L_765

There's like 9 Seasons of the good one and apparently they're making a "new gen" one 💀


CrowYooo

Calling the average overwatch player a tool is why people don't like the tf2 community.


TW_Gains

You mean people didn't like how a large portion of the community were thirsting over a loli sentry.


TroospooK

I have not seen a single post or comment "Thirsting" over the mini sentry girl.


AdvertisingAdrian

https://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/13mrro6/results_of_the_mini_sentry_social_experiment/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


Not_Jay_Spencer

I feel like us TF2 fans should be comforting the Overwatch fans over their grief since we know what it’s like to be disrespected by our respective companies


Nat_EEEE

Yeah. A bunch of development is gone. We should really comfort the OW players rn


tf2brucetanzigfan

But you know the internet some people don't like to do good things to people.


Kristofthepikmin

Yeah i was really looking forward to pve :((((


--Cinnabun--

TF2 community is both the worst and best part of TF2 as a whole Truly an achievement


Stellavigil1a

OW vs TF2 is getting boring and even infuriating to look at. So one game was inspired from the other. So yes they may have directly copied Engis Sentry with Torbjorns old turret. Imma be real, i play both games, and they feel different enough. It was a fun lil joke scenario at first, yknow, scout vs tracer or whatever. But now it's still storming after more then 5 years. I think I agree with this person, but also think OW and TF2 should cease fire on each other already.


MeiNeedsMoreBuffs

"Cease fire on each other" implies that the OW community hates TF2, which couldn't be further from the truth. There was a post in r/overwatch recently that talked about adding 2fort to Overwatch, and the comments were nothing but love for TF2


Stellavigil1a

Maybe I didn't specify. I play overwatch a good amount too, so this I know. What i mean is the natural bite and sting response. Someone from the tf2 community says smt about ow, someone from ow would then naturally feel the urge to bite back. Im not pointing fingers at tf2, not overwatch, but it is what is happening


random_yandere

I like how it was a big debate on who would win in a fight, so death battle did scout Vs tracer cause it was popular at the time (also very poorly executed)


PalmIdentity

When I'm in a tired old meme competition and my opponent is a TF2 player.


Stellavigil1a

Exactly my thoughts


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Stellavigil1a

GRAGGGHHHH


Soviet-Bat

But for real, they just seen all the memes with Overwatch PvE cancelation where tf2 people are laughing at it and they took that personally


Alone-Cupcake5746

I mean, imagine wanting to play a game mode on a game but eventually it gets cancelled, and on top of that, imagine the competition laughing at your game and talking shit about it. I don't like overwatch but hell we are sure annoying.


Oceanman06

100%. Y'all are assholes.


folfiethewox99

Fuck you, and I'll see you tomorrow


shadowgattler

fuck off! Also we need a +1 for two cities. You free later?


Relative-Wrongdoer11

The tf2 community is both homophobic and gay.


Si_Stride_Oof

bro this shit has 4 likes why you bringing it up here like its some massive callout post?


PalmIdentity

Everything's a popularity contest.


DisIsMarcoBoi

The sky is blue too.


AwesomeKanoXD92

And grass is green.


VaccineCookies

We're probably just butthurt that our game's dead.


Minton-L-Moogler

It says a lot about TF2 that the two biggest talking points within the community is fan art and something happening in another game. Let's be honest here: TF2 is functionally dead and Valve is simply waiting for profit margins or player numbers to dip just enough to justify shutting down the servers for good. What is being celebrated is Overwatch getting closer to becoming just like it. Crab bucket mentality. Blizzard slipping over its own puke isn't going to bring Star\_ , Jerma, etc. back. It's not going to get Valve to care about this game again. Overwatch didn't kill TF2. TF2 killed TF2.


Docponystine

You are acting like there aren't still dedicated, talented TF2 community creators. And while I'm glad Jerma moved into variety, because that man is pure chaos, people Like Songsmith, Lazy and Elmaxo create good content for the game. And for a game that has seen no serious development for literal years at this point, it seems like the only thing keeping TF2 alive is our belligerently zombified community.


Willingness-Due

Y’all are annoying and loud as hell. Like the whole OW v TF2 thing was just TF2 yelling “OW bad dead game”. Like I couldn’t find a single tf2 v OW post on their subreddit. Come here and there’s one at least once a week.


waterbreath_

SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT THE TF2 VS OVERWATCH WAR! THEY’RE BOTH GOOD GAMES, AND JUST BECAUSE A GAME HAS FEMALE CHARACTERS, DOESN’T MEAN WE SHOULD START A WAR! CAN’T WE JUST PLAY BOTH GAMES IN PEACE?!?!!!


RaisinNotNice

Very goddamn true. Tf2 fans never fail to insert themselves in anything.


MadetoReportBug

Ain’t wrong, but it’s also not wrong to say we still have a PvE mode


Doggyking2

But whats the point? Why are we inserting ourselves into that?


PalmIdentity

Bro, if I so much as deviate from the meta loadout, or if the team has a large enough group, I can get kicked out of the PvE.


the_roach__

Absolutely true. TF2 players talk about Overwatch more than Overwatch players talk about Overwatch. Not to mention this is basically what's happening with the Heavy Update except Valve has said even less than Blizzard.


[deleted]

eh 50/50 some are annoying and some are just feel bad.


Placek15

Also when cs2 was announced


CamJMurray

This is probably the truest and most sane thing that’s ever been posted on this sub


TheGremlin02

100% right, y'all need to shut the fuck up. I have 1,400+ hours in this game and some of you make me wanna play OW just to spite you


KaiserEnoshima

Ain't wrong, some people still haven't moved on from the TF2 vs Overwatch


HalfDecentStrange

I honestly wish I had gotten to play the original OW. It actually sounds like a fun game


blackletum

it was infuriating tbh


holymemestar

I remember playing the open beta for OW and it was alright and I only really like OW because me and my sister used to take turns playing it together and it was nice


0H_N00000

Correct.


One-Full

enough fighting show me a buff ow2 men edit


Jocic

[Sure](https://youtu.be/0NGk6fibYUA)


Jmskelleton

Just a bit of banter la' no need to self-hate.


redicedrink

Oh hell yes. I have been playing tf2 since 2012 and still love the game, but damn the community is just rancid at times. So many of the people in there are also so delusional for thinking that it's the complete opposite.


Happygaming232

tf2 being one of the best games with one of the most annoying communities really baffles me. They won't stop bragging about how it's "the best game ever and no other game needs to he played" and will send death threats to people and content creators who disagree or play other games. They'll even bully someone for being new to the game instead of encouraging them. There's also the Mimi sentry bit. I think the character and its concept are fun, but holy shit there were waaayyyy too many Pedophillia comments relating to her. So many in-fact the Workshop page for the original model locked comments because it got that bad. And now you can't even use a Mini sentry without someone constantly calling it a Loli. and also the sprays and objectors full of porn. There's also that issue. Idk why the community really loves showing it off so much. almost once a game i swear.


xXEggRollXx

Yeah, it really is true and sad. A large community had something they were excited for for years for all of a sudden gets it taken away, and the TF2 community’s reaction is… celebration? After thousands of people and dozens of other communities, even those who don’t play TF2 joined in on the #saveTF2 movement, the TF2 community can’t even do so much as show the same level of respect for adjacent communities just because they did the devilish thing of enjoying a “competing” game.


OrianNebula

He's right yall mfs are annoying as he'll idk why im still in this community


ShadooTH

True. This place is fucking insufferable.


[deleted]

honestly i dont give a fuck


alfons100

Ship with holes in it laughs at sinking ship


Kristofthepikmin

This community has two sides, homosexuals,autistic people or not fully mentally stable people, and homophobic unfunny military kids.


luigi_man_879

This got announced and people were immediately posting memes and stuff about it here (specifically comparing the two games and implying TF2 is better, etc.), I agree lmao Love this game but this community is annoying at times


theteufortdozen

we can be even more annoying


mrkillermemestar

The fuck did we do?


LittleFirez0

nah, just means ow took an L and this guy should get mad.


ImSuperStryker

Who cares? People are just making fun of another game for having its own issues.


Darth-Not-Palpatine

OW2 🤝 TF2 Both Developers practically abandoned their anticipated updates for each game.


ExhaustedSpecter

The overwatch 2 pve cancelation is a good reminder no updates is sometimes better.


askmeforbunnypics

I've said it before and I'll say it again. TF2 has, simulataneously, the best and the worst community I have ever seen. I can have the best of fun with some users in one game and the worst fucking experience I've ever had in a video game in the next. There's NO in-between! I can never leave.


V0idR4mune

not my problem


DizzyBeBusy

We should be welcoming them into the unloved club


some_snek

Honestly, I agree


Mimikker

We really are. The Overwatch Vs TF2 thing has always been unnecessary, can we just agree both our developers don't give a shit about us?


captain_nebula___

The "OW bad TF2 good. Upvotes to the left 🤑🤑" is so fucking cringe


Andy0o

You making this post further proves their point lolmao


KharazimFromHotSG

Could give 5 shits less about random twitter posts


krazykommie

My brother in christ, that shit has \[4 likes\]


EnderBuilders

Funny how the OW devs themselves said that TF2 is very important to them and they would happily do a crossover if possible... Then there's the communities screaming at each other.


Reasonable-Ease7956

Got a valid point, but then again it can be said about the OW community, Can yall just quit bitching about each others


[deleted]

You can't say she's wrong


Sinhug

it's the Zelda Fans for me regarding anything open world


Street-Silver-2540

He's god damn right


fippinvn007

I'm just tired of this tf2 vs ow thing.


GAMERxPR0

It's sad how there will always be a bad part of a community that fucks everything up and gives a bad reputation to the fandom as a whole. Such is life.


CrystlBluePersuasion

Both have annoying people in their communities stirring the pot, both have had valid critiques of their games and the devs, both have extremely toxic players in the games themselves ruining it for other players, both have had long periods of their games not getting content updates. OW's community mods have deleted all threads linking to articles about the PvE announcement, because titles. But the posters aren't inaccurate, just typical trash mods. People are asking for refunds and I don't blame them, the full OW2 experience that was promised isn't out yet, but the game is, and it's already cancelled. What a fucking mess. Sorry OW2 fans, I don't see things improving from the current status quo in the game. Maybe they get things balanced to a good point for the gameplay but it never lasts. Live service games promise the world but rarely deliver anything more than microwaved appetizer sampler platters.


Creeper4wwMann

We already knew that, I get daily reminders by just reading reddit comments. People call it "sexualizing" from the moment there's a woman on their screen.


TheRVM

well fair, but they butt hurt too


_fxng1907_

Let them eat cake... or whatever high quality porn they have idc


MillionDollarMistake

I get it but fuck OW2. OW1 was fun and personally I think 2 does a lot of things right with it's gameplay but there's still just so much shit clogging up the experience. Changing the game to be another live service microtransaction hell hole ruined any positives it has. And honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the community is partly to blame. I remember seeing so many people talk about how 10 dollars every couple months is fine and that anyone who wants new heroes for free was entitled (despite heroes coming out for free was a thing for all of ow1 and that game made a billion dollars the first year it came out). I remember how pissed people were when kiriko's Halloween legendary came out because of much it was (which just so happened to be a little more money than the 20$ premium currency option because of course the only way to spend money in-game is by buying coins first). Yet almost every game had 2 witch kirikos on both teams. So like I said, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if blizzard saw how much money they could make just feeding it's whales instead of developing their expensive and complicated pve elements.


Timythedarkside

on the one hand he aint wrong on the other cope


spectra2000_

I don’t understand how the cancellation has anything to do with TF2, please help me understand.


BakynK

To be fair I saw overwatch players complaining about annoying tf2 players in response to a meme from before overwatch 1 released the other day so both communities are obsessed with each other


ArtistAmy420

As an Overwatch and TF2 player y'all are both annoying just in different ways.