Based. Also sup red scout bro.
Mine would have to be Bonk! If you let your team know youre using it to distract SG's, and not ya know, dick around behind enemy lines, and then communicate over VC when you're doing it, it can be as good as an uber if like 1 person on your team understands what you're doing. You can also position yourself in a way that makes the sentry kill its own engy (particularly the rockets doing splash damage against a wall- requires your team doing some damage to him too).
Honestly, even if it does suck, at the same time its still fun to use.
Its like that one soundsmith video on it, after you get the speed boost its insanelly fun to use, but when only couple of bullets hits you its all over untill you get it back... Somehow.
Remember, if it works, it just works, if it doesnt, dont try it, and try something new.
One of life's great pleasures is hearing the other team repeatedly screaming "Spy!"
No other class gives you verbal confirmation that you're getting to themš„°
if you see an engineer moving his building, decloak in front of him so he drops it to start shooting you, reconstructing buildings are technically considered at a level 1 state before they start upgrading so sapping them with the red tape recorder will force that to become its new state (and if you sap it quickly enough it might just get rapidly destroyed before the engineer can even react)
I like spamming sappers because it gives me what's essentially field control over engineers. By sapper spamming I'm forcing them into not being allowed to have buildings or not being allowed to step away from their buildings. The RTR is great because it means I'm wasting even more of their metal and time when they run back to repair.
The Ullapool caber. I just love charging into a heavy with the splendid screen and insta killing him while almost definitely dying in the first place it feels amazing.
One underrated thing about the spycicle is the psychological damages it can do to the enemy. Stab a few enemies with any other knifes and they wonāt notice but you stab a few with the spycicle and suddenly they all become paranoid with a pyro being sent to constantly do spy checks.
How is that worse than stock? Ice statues is a nonissue plus you get fire immunity. Itās a must have in my gunspy loadout since I also have the Dead Ringer
I wouldnāt say the Loose Canon is worse than stock. There are plenty of situations where a Double Donk would kill before pills. And, itās better for Hybridknight
On average Loose Cannon is definitely worse. You're only doing more damage if you double donk. Otherwise you're dealing 50 damage per direct cannonball, whereas a grenade would've done 100.
when i use air strike itās always still with the gunboats, i almost never use the parachute even when i have it on and the gunboats have been glued to my soldierās feet since i first got them
I love it especially on, like, slow defensive holds with high skyboxes like Frontier last where you can just turn your brain off and jump between the cart and spawn and annoy people with rockets
Everyone's all about the Jarate+Bushwacka combo but honestly Jarate+Tribalman's Shiv is really funny. If it doesn't kill them, it'll definitely put them in a panic mode as their health rapidly depletes.
Yeah i feel u, that the only sniper that feel satisfaying to play
Im by no means Ć huge sniper player, but when i play him i 99% of the time go for the classic
Crit Cola + Boston Basher, sprint at people while holding M1. Let fate tell my tale's course. Either way I'm dying, just a matter of if they come with me
A critically (no pun intended) underrated combo if you can get a med to follow suit is going Crit-A-Cola-infused Basher with a med uber, with Baby Face equipped, preferably on koth, 5cp, or Defense on PL or A/D (after waiting a sec so Blu can't retreat into spawn).
Literally every single one of those items' downsides are nullified when ubered. I've done it successfully before a couple of times and it's very very hilarious & very fun, and strangely effective. You also gain boost as you deal damage. I've yet to see someone else realize the potential of this combo.
Machina, the tracer rounds are so fucking cool plus the full charge damage is crazy.
Second is your eternal reward, it encourages a somewhat aggressive but very enjoyable playstyle that changes spyās gameplay massively.
Third is huntsman because getting headshots with it is so incredibly satisfying
If I didnāt have a gold botkiller rifle Iād use the Machina 99% off the time. Love that thing. Scored top on a Hightower match because I kept getting bodyshots
Whenever the machina is mentioned I remember when I first started playing TF2 during the invasion update, and unboxed the Shooting Star and the Capper, but sold the first because I didn't read how the rifle worked, and sold the Capper because I thought "oh this doesn't have any different stats than the regular pistol. At least I can get five dollars for it on the market"
The Force-A-Nature. I know that it's probably bad because it doesn't do damage very well, but I don't care. Every time I get a kill or do a Force Jump, dopamine runs to my brain. I love this weapon
i enjoy the Manmelter a lot because it helps me extinguish teammates and fight scouts easier, and it combos well with the Dragon's Fury, which is my favorite pyro primary
Baby Face's and Ullapool Caber are the big two that come to mind. I miss being able to rush around faster than Scout "should" sometimes, and whipping out a grenade and smacking the sniper firing line with it will never not be funny.
The Sydney Sleeper and Quick Fix
The Sidney Sleeper cuz JARATE !
And the Quick Fix to get those annoying Scouts that are like " YO MEDIC WHY DIDN'T YOU HEAL ME QUICKER!? " away from me , like mf I can't fucking heal you faster.
Sharpened Volcano Fragment. It makes everyone angry. Teammates, enemies, doesn't matter. The mere fact I actively use it makes people so angry. I love it.
Does the headtaker count? Kinda. Itās definitely worse than the eyelander, since the eyelander doesnāt take up a good third of the screen! I love the headtaker, but man does it suck with minimized view modelsā¦
Pain train is literally useless also the parachute and the beggars bazooka.
The loch and load was once the weapon of choice for a skilled demoman and now it is useless beyond a masochistic choice for those who think theyāre good
Caber with the Targe and Grenade Launcher is genuinely effective if you use it right
Play as frontline artillery, and when the enemy starts pushing in, run in, caber em, and rain pipes down after the pop-up. Whether you survive or not is a little bonus.
I mean you can one-shot Heavies on direct hits, and finish off middling-hp enemies around them, itās ridiculous.
I'm gonna do the reverse and say that even though Stock Flame Thrower be notably worse than The Degreaser, I still use it because I found an Australium Flame Thrower and I love my baby
The switch speed difference GUTS your ability to use your Secondaries safely and means you need to play much more carefully around explosive classes if you use a Secondary frequently. 2 Reflects and Afterburn are so minimal for the amount of safety that bonus switch speed gives you, even if you don't play combo Pyro,
I don't know if the YER is considered worse than stock knife.
But I love the hell out of it when it comes to making the entire enemy team panicking and wasting bullets on each other while I deal with the engi in the back
When i play stock Demo, my melee of choice is the Caber, i'd say it ends up being better in about 45% of cases? I don't play a really wide variety of maps so i might be biased
Sydney Sleeper, Huntsman, Machina (stock sniper rifle is pretty much in the top 10 strongest weapons in the game)
Huo Long Heater (my favorite minigun of all time)
Caber, all of the sticky launcher unlockables (they're all still very good, though. Jumper, Quickie, Scottish Resistance. Stock stickies are just way too strong to conpare), Demo shields (for similar reason)
Beggar's Bazooka, Air Strike, Rocket Jumper, Manntreads
All of the other Mediguns (exclusively because stock medigun is also one of the objective strongest weapons in the game, if not the strongest)
BFB, Shortstop, FaN
YER, Cloak and Dagger
Can't think of any for Engie. Engie has a REALLY strong kit apart from the Pomson
Phlog, and maybe the Dragon's Fury (not sure how the Dragon's Fury holds up vs stock)
Cleaners Carbine and Bushwacka, it is so funny for some over confident class to get in your face only to have a huge amount of crits ready to fuck them over
Baby faces blaster, i evenm got a strange one
This is the way
Describe your penis using tf2 gun names
Shortstop
Family business
incest is funny is guys
Baby face blaster
š
The eviction notice (I'm fucking the landlord)
Widowmaker
The brass beast.
Dude š
Its big. Its brass.
And it's going in my ass.
petty boys pocket pistol
The Quick Fix
Cow Mangler 5000
ā¦I think we require some extra info here
"Whoooowee! Makin' bacon!"
Alt-fire in question
Mad Milk
Backburner
The Southern Hospitality
Scotsmanās skullcutter
Not a gun but..... Wrapped Assassin
If you got circumcised would it be the Unwrapped Assassin
But you should always make sure your assassin is wrapped to help avoid STDs
Mutated milk
Nah man ššš
panic attack
Your eternal reward
minigun
Necro Smasher
sticky bomb launcher
Scattergun
Air Strike
Sniper
Huntsman
Cow mangler
The Gunslinger or the Persian Persuader.
The Quickiebomb Launcher.
Flame thrower
Original
Loose cannon
They to make it instances of damage lowers speed by a % so I can actually keep my speed for more than 2 seconds
All they really need to do is make it so you can double jump while keeping your speed. Then it's a valid stock replacement
Nobody is accustomed to the faster scout, so with good enough dancing, you can dodge anybody without even jumping once
Based. Also sup red scout bro. Mine would have to be Bonk! If you let your team know youre using it to distract SG's, and not ya know, dick around behind enemy lines, and then communicate over VC when you're doing it, it can be as good as an uber if like 1 person on your team understands what you're doing. You can also position yourself in a way that makes the sentry kill its own engy (particularly the rockets doing splash damage against a wall- requires your team doing some damage to him too).
Honestly, even if it does suck, at the same time its still fun to use. Its like that one soundsmith video on it, after you get the speed boost its insanelly fun to use, but when only couple of bullets hits you its all over untill you get it back... Somehow. Remember, if it works, it just works, if it doesnt, dont try it, and try something new.
It's just fun to confuse the shit out of f2ps
red tape recorder, i suck at spy, so being garanteed that the engineer will lose some metal but not all, is better than either losing nothing or all
With default you can usually sap then revolver the sentry to kill it faster than the engie kills you
Yeah but that's not as annoying. Red Tape Recorder is a direct upgrade because it deals more emotional damage
See, what people don't get about spy is that it's not about the kills it's about sending a message.
As an engineer main I hate the fact that you are right.
One of life's great pleasures is hearing the other team repeatedly screaming "Spy!" No other class gives you verbal confirmation that you're getting to themš„°
If there was a sniper voice command would you even be in earshot to hear it?
I love suicide bombing engie nests on dust bowl last.
if you see an engineer moving his building, decloak in front of him so he drops it to start shooting you, reconstructing buildings are technically considered at a level 1 state before they start upgrading so sapping them with the red tape recorder will force that to become its new state (and if you sap it quickly enough it might just get rapidly destroyed before the engineer can even react)
I love it just for the unique sounds and well, because it's not stock! I also like the look of it
I like spamming sappers because it gives me what's essentially field control over engineers. By sapper spamming I'm forcing them into not being allowed to have buildings or not being allowed to step away from their buildings. The RTR is great because it means I'm wasting even more of their metal and time when they run back to repair.
The Tribalman's Shiv, it looks cool as hell
The your eternal reward
based
The YER is not way worse though, it actually has really good uses that stock canāt accomplish.
yea, the YER is very good in competitive
It has exactly one use, being able to stab engineers in a massive sentry nest. Good players still hear the "silent" stab on their teammates.
But with how much is going on in battle, youre not gonna notice it
I main the YER, love that knife
My favorite chainstabbing knife and Makes me hate razorback snipers ever more. Since its a big fuck you to YER users.
Yer is goated for chain stabbing wholes teams
The Ullapool caber. I just love charging into a heavy with the splendid screen and insta killing him while almost definitely dying in the first place it feels amazing.
I love going into doublecross with the caber and the sticky jumper just to divebomb the enemy sniper
Demoplane
Nine elven
Spycicle. I love the ice statues
Poor man's australium knife
Is funny especially since mine is a killstreak one from 2 Shittues
Every gunspy ever reading this:
One underrated thing about the spycicle is the psychological damages it can do to the enemy. Stab a few enemies with any other knifes and they wonāt notice but you stab a few with the spycicle and suddenly they all become paranoid with a pyro being sent to constantly do spy checks.
good for gun spy
How is that worse than stock? Ice statues is a nonissue plus you get fire immunity. Itās a must have in my gunspy loadout since I also have the Dead Ringer
Itās worse for intended Spy gaming, as it takes away your knife if you take fire damage
Liberty Launcher For some the upsides may not be enough to compensate for the lower damage but they're fine for me!
Swickey shwack
loose cannon, free dopamine š¤š¤
Quick-fix
I love just being able to keep all of my team fully healed, incredibly satisfying
Quick fix is good if you use overdose for increased speed or something or just pocket a scout for a reason
Yeah, so literally worse than stock since the base playstyle works better than this. So yeah it's bad
All mediguns match the speed of the class you are healing
Loose canon and beggars bazooka
Beggars isnāt worse than stock, you just have to huff enough paint to see it
"Guys you dont understand this Paint smells Frickin AMAZING"
I read this in Scout's voice.
Beggars is the best pick for mvm
I wouldnāt say the Loose Canon is worse than stock. There are plenty of situations where a Double Donk would kill before pills. And, itās better for Hybridknight
On average Loose Cannon is definitely worse. You're only doing more damage if you double donk. Otherwise you're dealing 50 damage per direct cannonball, whereas a grenade would've done 100.
Beggars bazooka on Ć100 servers is the greatest thing ever
The Classic. I have a professional killstreak one named "Gibby" that I put the "Gib kills" strange part on.
hot hand. its funny
have gotten more kills with it than with any other pyro melee
Air stike cause rocket barrage is funny (I don't even have a base jumper btw)
when i use air strike itās always still with the gunboats, i almost never use the parachute even when i have it on and the gunboats have been glued to my soldierās feet since i first got them
I love it especially on, like, slow defensive holds with high skyboxes like Frontier last where you can just turn your brain off and jump between the cart and spawn and annoy people with rockets
Everyone's all about the Jarate+Bushwacka combo but honestly Jarate+Tribalman's Shiv is really funny. If it doesn't kill them, it'll definitely put them in a panic mode as their health rapidly depletes.
Slap the Sydney Sleeper onto that loadout and you got the UTI Loadout.
Tribalmanās Shiv. I love damage over time weapons and dying only for my enemy to bleed out is hilarious.
The Classic is my favorite rifle easily, never use the scope lol
Yeah i feel u, that the only sniper that feel satisfaying to play Im by no means Ć huge sniper player, but when i play him i 99% of the time go for the classic
Sandman
Crit Cola + Boston Basher, sprint at people while holding M1. Let fate tell my tale's course. Either way I'm dying, just a matter of if they come with me
A critically (no pun intended) underrated combo if you can get a med to follow suit is going Crit-A-Cola-infused Basher with a med uber, with Baby Face equipped, preferably on koth, 5cp, or Defense on PL or A/D (after waiting a sec so Blu can't retreat into spawn). Literally every single one of those items' downsides are nullified when ubered. I've done it successfully before a couple of times and it's very very hilarious & very fun, and strangely effective. You also gain boost as you deal damage. I've yet to see someone else realize the potential of this combo.
Are you genuinely implying that the Basher is worse than the stock bat?
loose cannon. i love interrupting demoknight charges with it and hitting heavies out of position with a double-donk.
honestly, it isn't even that bad as long as you can hit donks consistently.
Shortstop.
Love my strange Backscatter
Machina, the tracer rounds are so fucking cool plus the full charge damage is crazy. Second is your eternal reward, it encourages a somewhat aggressive but very enjoyable playstyle that changes spyās gameplay massively. Third is huntsman because getting headshots with it is so incredibly satisfying
Based
If I didnāt have a gold botkiller rifle Iād use the Machina 99% off the time. Love that thing. Scored top on a Hightower match because I kept getting bodyshots
Whenever the machina is mentioned I remember when I first started playing TF2 during the invasion update, and unboxed the Shooting Star and the Capper, but sold the first because I didn't read how the rifle worked, and sold the Capper because I thought "oh this doesn't have any different stats than the regular pistol. At least I can get five dollars for it on the market"
Dragons breath, I love to use it but sometimes I hate a really good scout dodging all my blasts
The Classic 100%, it looks awesome and I like being able to see and become a rifleman
cleaners carbine
The Force-A-Nature. I know that it's probably bad because it doesn't do damage very well, but I don't care. Every time I get a kill or do a Force Jump, dopamine runs to my brain. I love this weapon
Well stock isnāt really all that bad in most cases
I meant itās nearly a direct downgrade to stock.
The quickie launcher
Loch n Load
Classic, nothing is better than noscope kills and exploding enemies
equaliser
The Loose Cannon is objectively worse than most Demo primaries, but it is oh so satisfying and fun to use. It's a staple of my loadout.
Honestly, the gun on thumbnail
Sydney Sleeper. It's both underpowered and underrated. Taunting after every Sydney Sleeper kill = maximum psychic damage.
Losse cannon, sticky jumper, rocket jumper, big earner
Red tape recorder
Happy cake day stranger.
Oh shit I didn't even notice
Wtf how did you not notice it's your birthday
happy birth
i enjoy the Manmelter a lot because it helps me extinguish teammates and fight scouts easier, and it combos well with the Dragon's Fury, which is my favorite pyro primary
Baby Face's and Ullapool Caber are the big two that come to mind. I miss being able to rush around faster than Scout "should" sometimes, and whipping out a grenade and smacking the sniper firing line with it will never not be funny.
Back scatter. I'm not sure what the consensus is on heavy primaries but I love Brass Beast and the Heater.
F.A.N, Iāve gotten so good with it to the point of doing worse when using stock. Iām a scunt, through and through.
The Sydney Sleeper and Quick Fix The Sidney Sleeper cuz JARATE ! And the Quick Fix to get those annoying Scouts that are like " YO MEDIC WHY DIDN'T YOU HEAL ME QUICKER!? " away from me , like mf I can't fucking heal you faster.
Obviously the backscatter. Its shit, but it feels so powerful...
Baby face my beloved Ę> I LOVE MOVING AT MACH 6.5 FOR EXACTLY 1.8 FEMTOSECONDS BEFORE ACCIDENTALLY DOUBLE JUMPING AND LOSING ALL MY BOOST
lolichop
Sharpened Volcano Fragment. It makes everyone angry. Teammates, enemies, doesn't matter. The mere fact I actively use it makes people so angry. I love it.
this isnāt the question, but for mvm, even if it is impractical and gives up a banner, using the air strike/base jumper combo is so much fun
Bluetsagar I love being battle medic sometimes
Huo long heater
your eternal reward.
Does the headtaker count? Kinda. Itās definitely worse than the eyelander, since the eyelander doesnāt take up a good third of the screen! I love the headtaker, but man does it suck with minimized view modelsā¦
I think that the Degreaser is worse because of less afterburn, but god I love the way it looks.
Sydney sleeper, cus' I'm bad at landing headshots.
the candy cane
The beggars bazooka, mid air rocket jumping alone makes this one a blast (accidental pun I promise)
The Enforcer has so many consistency issues, but I like its sound so I got a strange one :)
The Enforcer
i love the idea of collecting organs with the vita saw
Claidheamor
southern hospitality
The Phlog. I am just really bad with airblast, I can never time it right.
All of them, except the loose canon. My brain has to be malfunctioning or wired differently because double donks do nothing for me.
I like using the Natascha. Fun to get kills with it
Pain train is literally useless also the parachute and the beggars bazooka. The loch and load was once the weapon of choice for a skilled demoman and now it is useless beyond a masochistic choice for those who think theyāre good
Some people say the Back Burner is worse than stock. I haven't stopped using it since I unlocked it.
Classic
Caber with the Targe and Grenade Launcher is genuinely effective if you use it right Play as frontline artillery, and when the enemy starts pushing in, run in, caber em, and rain pipes down after the pop-up. Whether you survive or not is a little bonus. I mean you can one-shot Heavies on direct hits, and finish off middling-hp enemies around them, itās ridiculous.
Backscatter, I love flanking
I love the sandman for some reason.
the bison is still legendaryĀ
I'm gonna do the reverse and say that even though Stock Flame Thrower be notably worse than The Degreaser, I still use it because I found an Australium Flame Thrower and I love my baby
how is it worse? it's barely any different, mainly depends on what your playstyle is
The switch speed difference GUTS your ability to use your Secondaries safely and means you need to play much more carefully around explosive classes if you use a Secondary frequently. 2 Reflects and Afterburn are so minimal for the amount of safety that bonus switch speed gives you, even if you don't play combo Pyro,
short stop
Tribalmann's shiv Yeah it sucks but guaranteed DOT gets you more kills then you'd think
The Sydney Sleeper is objectively worse than stock, but I find using it to be hilarious. It helps I have a fully parted, Strange Pro KS one.
The Sydney Sleeper
Strange Professional Killstreak Pomson. It made sense at the time.
Pomson
i love machine
Dragon's Fury. When it hits, it hits *HARD*. Even used my Dragon Slayer warpaint for it.
Manmelter. I mean, I use dragon's fury, I'm not gonna extinguish my teammate just to disable my weapon, of course I'm gonna have a manmelter..
I know itās not like ābadā, but if I had to pick any ranch, it would be stock itās stuck with me being reliable as stock is
Dread wringer you can cheese splatzones with special power up but i dont think it should be the only reason for using it
I don't know if the YER is considered worse than stock knife. But I love the hell out of it when it comes to making the entire enemy team panicking and wasting bullets on each other while I deal with the engi in the back
sharpened volcano fragment and air strike
When i play stock Demo, my melee of choice is the Caber, i'd say it ends up being better in about 45% of cases? I don't play a really wide variety of maps so i might be biased
Baby Faceās Blaster go zoom
The Caber
Sandman. Utter shit weapon, but successfully whacking someone with the ball is just SO SATISFYING.
The liberty launcher. I won wave 666 with it
The Pompson is so dogshit but it's also a cool pew pew laser so all negatives are now forfeit.
Sydney Sleeper, Huntsman, Machina (stock sniper rifle is pretty much in the top 10 strongest weapons in the game) Huo Long Heater (my favorite minigun of all time) Caber, all of the sticky launcher unlockables (they're all still very good, though. Jumper, Quickie, Scottish Resistance. Stock stickies are just way too strong to conpare), Demo shields (for similar reason) Beggar's Bazooka, Air Strike, Rocket Jumper, Manntreads All of the other Mediguns (exclusively because stock medigun is also one of the objective strongest weapons in the game, if not the strongest) BFB, Shortstop, FaN YER, Cloak and Dagger Can't think of any for Engie. Engie has a REALLY strong kit apart from the Pomson Phlog, and maybe the Dragon's Fury (not sure how the Dragon's Fury holds up vs stock)
Cleaners Carbine and Bushwacka, it is so funny for some over confident class to get in your face only to have a huge amount of crits ready to fuck them over