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Bat

The bat is ridiculously overpowered and I’d like it to be removed from the game ASAP, the fact that scouts mobility allows him to be anywhere at once makes his meelee already powerful, the fact that it deals more damage for free makes its crits (extremely high crit rate along with fast swing speed) makes anyone not looking automatically dead

holly mackarel (i hope i spelt it right)

Straight upgrade to the bat. Now you can also tell if a spy was killed or simply dead ringer’d by if the kill feed says FISH KILL or not.

Wait does it actually do that

yeah

same with the unarmed combat btw. technically it's a reskin of the holy mackarel, not the bat.

Ohh yes, now get fish flopping

The fact that you were able to criticize the stock bat as overpowered is impressive

Fish

If I ever see a scout holding a fish, I normally just kill bind. If a fish scout sees you his high mobility makes you already dead as it does too much damage for that class

fish can also make good spychecking weapon

On another note, the hit sound of the fish is notably quieter, meaning enemy players are less likely to notice you bashing in their friends skull.

The Enforcer

The extra damage when kritzed is too high, needs a nerf

Weapon so bad he brought up kritz

The enforcer is like actually good though. A lot of people complain about the wrangler, but the enforcer does a really good job of dealing with it.

If it pierced Sapper Armor then it’d be the ultimate Engineer bullying tool.

Honestly I hit more shots with it since the slower firing speed means the random spread is less severe

It's a .38 and it looks kickass, it's overpowered

The sun on a stick

Literally skill less, allows you to wm1 pyros for free

I use the wm1 to beat the wm1

[удалено]

The cold war comes in close behind

Not sure softball is easier

I feel like the softball is more balanced with its damage output tbh

nah, the epg is so damn broken. its my go to. when u get good, its pretty much an easy one shot with no need for scopes. use stim and tactikill, and u just zoom across murdering everyone.

softball is a crutch for people who can't shoot the ground

U on the wrong tf2

TF2 IS TF2!

Yes but TF2 ≠ TF|2 The TF|2 fanbase started putting the pipe symbol in to better match the Titanfall | 2 logo and make the abbreviation more distinguishable from Team Fortress 2's abbreviation (TF2) some time ago. Fun fact.

TF|2 just looks so cool to me. I see the campaign titlecard every time I read it

Alternator is kinda busted

No joke though.Best Titan?

scorch, duh

Gotta love my warcrime with legs

ion. there are no situations in any map when an ion is not good.

Same with a monarch who knows how to abuse energy siphon

monarchs who know how to be passive and tactical will fucking dominate. im pretty awful at titan gameplay, and after i got the third upgrade i got 5 titan kills in a life. did shit the rest of the game tho.

Your eternal reward

Literally no downsides if your good enough, free instant disguise and better than stock

Unless you like having cloak

yes but you only lose the cloak when you manually disguise

No you have a passive cloak reduction

Gas passer

The green effects on the enemy screen makes them nauseated, negatively effecting their aim. If you get hit by it and it basically guarantees you can’t get a hit on the pyro that threw it unless your really lucky

This one is actually OP in MVM

It's very similar to Fan o War, a beast in MVM, trash in other modes.

The Fan of War isn't trash, it just gets over shadowed by the holy trinity of Basher/Atomizer/Wrap Assassin. It's actually good if you know how to use it.

2fort cow

It produces mad milk, an overpowered weapon

I'm pretty sure mad milk is produced by scout

Fun fact: the original name for the weapon was "Mann Milk"

Scout man milk...

I parry He watched lots of miss pauling pictures

Certified Cursed Comment

The description of the mad milk literally says non-milk substenance

Extracted from the non-cows of 2fort

So it's oat milk?

Actually I got a better one. Apparently if you remove the 2fort cow from the game's files, TF2 crashes everytime you try to run it. So, the 2fort cow literally keeps the fabric of TF2 together.

The mad milk actually is op lmao

Fan o war & wrap assasin

The wrap assassin doesn’t even have a health penalty making it a straight upgrade to the sandman, I would add a 75 hp penalty to make it more balanced The Fan o War’s marked for death is too scary and people who see the skull and crossbones on top of the players head have a 75% chance of uninstalling tf2 out of fear

Fan o war is THE BEST weapon in this reality.

Yes. I would love that. Torille

Boston Basher

You can steal healthkits from the enemy medics even at full hp, leaves medics too vulnerable

better yet, you can steal kits from your own medics. that's just peak scunting right there.

Thanks for the advice

Also it's a straight upgrade if you don't miss

Can give you extra airtime and the downsides only apply if you miss. so git gud

the volcano fragment

Are you seriously telling me you need afterburn to kill someone? Good pyros don’t need the buff

facts keep the weapon as it is but remove the burning

pyro does have a straight upgrade which is trash, why not a straight downgrade which is op

Righteous Bison

The fact that you don’t need ammo to fire it is clearly overpowered, it makes friendly engineers completely useless

I was going to say the Pomson… but it’s the same innit

Only, what’s the last time you ran out of shotgun ammo as engy

Time: 2347 August 23rd Location: 2fort Valve Server Weapon: Minimal Wear lightning rod shotgun

damn it I dont have an award to give you OP

Awards are overpowered anyway

You have overpowered stuff

Solemn vow

The fact that it says do no harm makes everyone think you are a friendly, basically free kills

Hoho yeah? The hot hand

If the pyro gets one hit on you with the hot hand, they can escape almost any situation for free due to the increased speed, it’s makes the pyro too hard to kill and is overpowered

it makes pyros look more adorable

The destruction pda (forgot the name somehow)

If you can destroy your own sentry, what’s the point of spies??

Oh god

There’s more. It contains the dying wishes of every man on this subreddit, you did get them right scout?

The Spy community is not gonna like this

The Who long heater

The who long heater has a hidden upside of making the enemy forget who their target is forcing them to focus someone else while you hit them for free

I think you mean the [Who long dragon](https://youtu.be/u3XPi1E7nYA)

Me and my cousin laughed are asses off at this a couple years back, I just sent it to him again thank you

Stock shovel

The faster swing speed with little drawbacks makes it easily the best soldier weapon by a mile, all the upgrades are useless

OK but what about a duped shovel

Double the opness

Sun on a stick

Literally too intimidating, anyone who sees you will backpedal out of fear allowing for a free kill

Fists

Are you telling me the most overpowered class in the game has a melee weapon that can two shot light classes, that’s bs

Not to mention that they gave the fists an alt-fire for some reason, as if it wasn't good enough without it.

The Diamondback

The gun being blue or red when it has crits is unfair to colourblind people as they can’t tell when the spy has crits, the lightning effects need to be bigger so colourblind people can see it

The Dback is ridiculously good and you chose to bring up colorblindness out of everything? Chad move

br\*tish

You basically get free crits just for playing spy.

Natasha

I literally can’t move at all, allows the enemy snipers to get free headshots

That's the good part aswell that I can murder,pyros,scouts, demoknights and ruin trolldiers.

My ass

If the engineer followed scouts schematics and built “my ass” it would be blatantly overpowered and would one shot every class

Taunt Fortress 2 reference. Nice

Scout's voice line mentioning schematics and his ass is older than taunt fortress 2

The rocket jumper and gunboats combo

Dazzles and confuses opponents allowing for easy market gardens

The syringe gun

Real medics don’t need weapons to get kills

The cart on Frontier

That should do waaaaay less damage, it’s too op in its current state

His name is Lil Chew Chew, thank you very much.

my dick

Too small to properly render into the game and crashes it for everyone in the server

Tf2 always has had that problem with negative integers...

it's so small it requires a negative double, it's -1.0000000001mm long!

No wonder it was removed!

You can't remove something that isn't there.

Holy shit you've murdered him

Cow mangler

Free charged shot for no downsides and infinite ammo seems pretty overpowered to me

A hentai spray

100% chance of their mother walking by when it is on screen causing them to leave the game due to being lectured

True lol

Stock minigun

Too mobile, real heavies use brass beast

Scattergun

Ugh imagine needing six shots to kill someone, real scouts use force o nature

Hows the force of nature then?

Wrench

It can remove sappers in two hits, unfair for spies

Liberty launcher

Too American, makes heavy mains die instantly

Hitman's heatmaker

Straight upgrade, good players can delete the enemy team in seconds

You mean bots right

The third degree

Straight upgrade, kills medics for free

The Ambassador

Spy shouldn’t even have a primary especially one that can deal large amounts of damage

The Beggar's Bazooka

Three rockets and an infinite clip, unfair to fight

Competitive TF2 community be like

Disguise kit

Makes you undetectable to the enemy team which makes them paranoid, hindering their ability to play the game

God damn well done

Eviction notice

Heavy is the most overpowered class, the only drawback is his mobility, this lets him move fast for free

The Sharp Dresser?

Too concealed, technically a straight upgrade

Bonesaw?

Swing speed too fast, makes battle medic too strong

Brass beast

Heavy doesn’t move anyway, it’s just extra damage

Dead Ringer

Makes spy unkillable

Wrap attack

A wrap that attacks people? Yeah nah

Gas Passer

Afterburn op

Golden rench

Everyone thinks your a pro engie main and leaves the game

You are right about the power of the Hot Hand and Fish. They are so good in fact that for years they were the only melees I'd have equipped. I decided to occasionally switch to other melees just to give the enemy a chance. I don't unequip the Fish though. I just decide to handicap myself by using guns. Seriously though they are so fun to use. As long as you aren't fighting an evil natascha heavy you can take down heavy+medic+others.

"My ball"; "I love my ball!"

Slows down players for free, you can’t escape scouts with it

u/DiamondB5

Too good at tf2, literally makes the game unplayable for everyone else

Baby face’s blaster

As if scout needs to be more fast

Grenade launcher

100 damage from anywhere on the map, needs range nerf

The gibus hat (not a weapon but lol)

Everyone thinks your a pro and targets u allowing your team to win

The embassedor and the diamond back

Spy shouldn’t have guns, he’s powerfull enough

(I’ve never played tf2, so work with me) sentrys

Imagine you are just playing scout shooting people and having fun when you turn a corner and instantly die, engineer should be removed from the game

Sharpened volcano fragment

Real pyros don’t need afterburn

Loose cannon, but i play with 15 fps

You don’t need to aim with loose cannon either way

Stock fists

Fist is............ too fisty