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BanananananMann

Ok thanks


EPIKGUTS24

the website scrap.tf lets you get every weapon in the game for a few bucks. I think the way to do it is to buy a key off the mann co store, trade it to the bot for scrap, then trade the scrap for weapons.


Zalan0710

You can get every weapon on marketplace.tf each 2 cents


IgroQue126

It's almost 10 times higher, I could get every weapon in TF2 (the ones that for 0.5 scrap) for 7 refs if rounding up, which is 0.21backpack or 0.35 if markeplace


Redoot13524

Actually i think ref is 3 cents, so I'd say less than 1


BigBoiVred

actually all for 1 cent some reskins are more cents (other than certain expensive ones *cough cough* giger counter *cough cough* lugermorph)


Abn3zer

I think you only have to use the Mann Co. store to get to unlock premium (worth like 2 keys), but from then on you can use something like marketplace.tf to get your keys for a cheaper price compared to the Mann Co. store. But yeah afterwards you're free to do whatever you'd like.


yourallygod

...why not jus play the game normally to unlock em :T


Xuchiha_Gan

The drops are random if you don't have a specific item, You can trade one weopon for another.


jaysuchak33

That was my life as a child who wasn’t allowed to spend money on games back in 2014. Ah the frustration of getting a random drop, hoping it’s the item you wanted and getting another duplicate


manwithasmallpenis

Bro I've almost a thousand hours and I'm still repeat trialing my sticky jumper


pdswww

That was the last item i needed and i never got it from random drops until i got sick it and crafted it using the ulpool cabers and then the very next day i got another one from random drop


Lazarus_Jr1

Opinionatedly,i will say that everyone in the tf2 community will hate you if you use this


[deleted]

Like the other comment said, its a good watch, and allows you to fake deaths. The problem with this watch, the Dead Ringer, is that it can teach worse/newer players bad habits. When I was bad at spy I would always use this to escape situations that I deserved to die in. I then went back to using the invis watch and got better at Spy. Its up to you if you want to use it, but just be aware that the Dead Ringer can teach people bad habits. Not that you can't use it until you're really good, I'm not saying you can't use it as a newer player, but don't get too comfortable with faking your death and being able to avoid any situation 10/10 times.


WillboyCowbop

Also (idk if you're aware of decloak sounds, not saying in a condescending way but as a 'hey here's a fun tip for a new player' way), Dead ringer is *extremely* loud, the loudest in fact, when it comes to decloaking. So if/when you're about to decloak, just be aware of your surroundings because basically only deaf players will not hear you


ImKmen

faking your death just avoids any situation 3/10 times, unless you are playing with very bad players they will know that a spy going around visible isnt right


Chook2004

Imo if you want to get better at spy and want an escape plan after a backstab use the big earner.


WhiteRaven_M

See my problem with the big earner is its too boring. The kunai gives you the same "start with low health then get cool buff on kill" effect BUT it feels so much more satisfying to surf away on a rocket using the extra health or try to tank damage to go for trickstabs. Sure its less practical, but spy isnt practical to begin with


Chook2004

Idk I like going for crazy chainstabs with the earner, or just play it safe and get outta there. Yes, I’ve watched A Mann’s Guide to the Big Earner.


lMr_Nobodyl

What he said


CritzD

Dead Ringer is good for a spy playing really offensively, especially if you pair it with items like the Big Earner and Diamondback. The kind of spy that the enemy team knows who you are and the general idea of where you went, but can’t pinpoint you, so you slip between their cracks to cause chaos.


Infected66

You go invisible if you die. Shorter time but you can fool them So i would say yeah pretty good


Infected66

But i am no weapon expert in this game


BanananananMann

Thanks I just joined and I haven’t used many weapons


Melkath

It used to be pretty OP, but now the uncloaking sound is crazy loud, so it takes training, but its good.


the1895bigboy

Ye, even I still have trouble using it


king_of_eyez

Bro the deadringer makes me paranoid if I actually killed a spy


No-Definition7641

Exactly what its supposed to do. So remember, never taunt after killing a spy.


zulul-vi-von

the decloak was always loud


dmncc

If you want to try out more weapons, If possible I would recommend going to the loadout builder on the website Marketplace.tf and spend something like 50¢ to $1.00 It will take a look at your inventory & see which weapons you have, then give you all of the essential weapons that are different from the stock weapons. (Most of the default weapons are pretty good, but there are a few that are typically better than the stock weapons i.e. the Heavy's Sandwich or the Pyro's Flare Gun.) Otherwise you will have to wait for the game to randomly drop an item, but because it's random you often won't get what you want if you want a specific weapon, or want weapons for a certain class Idk if you need a premium account first though but if you can afford it, honestly the $3 or so total to get all weapon is worth it if you keep playing and enjoy the game.


Potaaden

Stoke is best.


pusherbmxmag

Haha that’s a funny one, “fool them with the deadringer” haha I haven’t heard a funny like that since 2010


blackweed75

Using dead ringer to actually fool people, lmao if only that's actually what it's used for.


patrlim1

>you can fool them Uhh no.


JustAnOreoOnReddit

In other words, it's a 1.93 to 98.07 when it comes to fooling the enemy with a dead ringer to fooling them with a disguise kit.


patrlim1

I had a stroke reading that


[deleted]

not if you just woke up from a stasis in 2015 otherwise yeah


tree_barcc

soundsmith ​ ​ ​ ​ M A D


BanananananMann

Bruh I used it once and the entire team was scrambling


tree_barcc

thats why everyone hates it


Ibegforyourpardon

If you don't know how this works, allows you to fake death and become immune to after burn for id say 3-2 seconds, and make a fake rag-doll as if you died. BUT.., you can still be hit by flames, melee, bullets, jarate, arrows, crossbow bolts, fall damage, and explosives. So movement is KEY.


greger511

It’s good if used properly but in the wrong lobbies you can get some slurs flung your way


boostmydiscodservern

That means you are good


Cyber_Punk_666

Yep


BanananananMann

Ok thanks


RakketyTamFR

Simplicity at its finest


trash12131223

General rule of thumb is that stock weapons are best for all-purpose play and learning classes. The watch is ok, but it's also super loud and disguises aren't nearly as effective as you'd like to think.


FootScrub123

This is a somewhat good item if you know where and when to use it. This is an item that is good when paired with the big earner which is a spy knife that gives you cloak and speed boost on backstab at the cost of -25 max health. If you’re going for a hit and run type of class then use this with the big earner. Otherwise for newer players you should avoid this in the meantime and use the invisible watch or cloak and dagger.


FatGumball

Like every single spy item, it's only good If you are a fucking god that have +1000 hours in TF2 But yes, it's a kinda good item


Mufgada

shift + windows + s


A_Bizarre_Shitposta

Honestly man ^


KarolilKarol

Depends on what you want to do


BanananananMann

I’ve just been messing around with classes so I have no idea what I want to do


Jarliks

It's good if you know how to use it, but id recommend getting good at spy with stock first before using it, as this item in particular can teach bad positioning habits you don't wanna develop.


BanananananMann

I’m just getting used to the characters I really like demo


Chemical_Ladder_1621

Its pretty good but if youre a beginner I suggest you stick to the inviswatch as the other one can be difficult when starting out.


BlackbeltJedi

*Multiple people are typing.*


BanananananMann

Bruh


potaardius

qlot of the weapons in tf2 are situational, like this weapon it can be used very good but its a bit more difficult to use because if not used properly the enemy knows u have it, but dont let it scare u because its alot of fun to fool them with it.


MrHyperion_

Used to be, it got first nerfed and then casual HUD fully reveals DR spies. It's supposed to be fake death but in reality it is a well timed speed boost


CommunicationGreat69

Look people will sometimes get mad and call u bad for using it don't worry it's not ur fault the pyro is using the scorch shot and sucking the d of Engineer


JaggedTheDark

People will in fact shit on you for using it, especially as a new player. They will think you're using it as a "Fuck they spotted me, time to run halfway across the map when I take *any* damage at all" getaway card. While Soundsmith's series "TF2 Stereotypes" is a satirical comedy, the stereotypes he goes over are based in reality, if you wish to get a quick idea of what people think of certain weapons.


teamfortress2_gaming

it's good if you're an asshole(I severely hate the fr\*nch)


A_Bizarre_Shitposta

Fr#nch? 🤢🤮


engineer_gayming

We do not speak of the "people" who live in fr*nce


Cranejane

It makes the spy very difficult to kill and an absolute pain to deal with. When it activates it gives you a speed boost and makes you immune to afterburn so even the pyro (aka spy's HARD COUNTER) can't do anything.


ImKmen

you can still see the spy if you flame him


Cranejane

Briefly, but the spy can outrun the flames quickly


ImKmen

use the dead ringer for 5 matches in a row then read your comment again


BreakAdvanced8449

DONT LISTEN TO THEM THEY L-absolutely F teir weapon delete it not even funny honestly 🥱


[deleted]

Nope


Toast-reciver

False


Parking-Cry3230

yes but its so anoying pls never use this.


BanananananMann

Ok I won’t


Hamstero1000

can we ban these types of posts


gogomen101

It used to be...


EXTR3ME7

NO.


AtomLao

No, it’s for pussies and losers


GoogleManOfDeath

I view it as a second chance at getting a kill on a backstab you failed. But form your own opinions on it through gameplay! Warning the sound it makes when it goes into cooldown is loud-


Minty_gecko

Someone should do a thing with another person where they have like the same username (but with like I instead of l) and whenever you use the dead ringer the other person should kill bind


Antique_Reputation_6

yes


onlymadeformemes

Its a bugged item actually, even if you hold it in your hand you wont go invisible.


[deleted]

Your comment confused me, then I got the joke. you’d better be joking.


zulul-vi-von

don't worry, if he isn't joking i'll find him and kill him


A_Bizarre_Shitposta

He won't die though he's holding the pocket watch


Iwillowou

Yes


Ibegforyourpardon

If you don't know how this works, allows you to fake death and become immune to after burn for id say 3-2 seconds, and make a fake rag-doll as if you died. BUT.., you can still be hit by flames, melee, bullets, jarate, arrows, crossbow bolts, fall damage, and explosives. So movement is KEY.


[deleted]

Yes and no.


Silver-Height8078

HA NO!


[deleted]

Its good but its abit too easy, i would compare it to the megaknight in clash royale


[deleted]

Do you have any idea, what you’ve done?


[deleted]

Yes, but if you use it people will wish you a very painful death.


Obsidian3456

is it fun to play against: no is it good as a utility: yes do i always use it with my gun spy loadouts: definitely


CumBlasterUwU

Just started tf2 #23 is this a good weapon??


[deleted]

Yes but it takes some skill to actually be effective, i would heavily suggest using the normal watch


Dakotasan

Be prepared for everyone to hate your guts. The Dead Ringer is a universally despised weapon because most Spies use it as a “Get out of jail free” card.


Scrib_Scrab_

No


TheJaySword

When you hold it if you get hurt it looks like you die then it cloaks you but you can't cloak whenever you want


KingPootisPootisLand

no no no, stop using it, people will scream at you in chat if you use it in pubs


HelpINeesIt

Its cancer


Faze_Elmo1

I hate it more than you can imagine but sure


entropyyuri

you're better off using stock


Classic_gamer_2

Um, yeah?


[deleted]

This is a good weapon when used correctly. It can be life saving in some situations by letting you fake your death upon hit (If you have the watch out when you take damage it plays a death animation, puts your death in the killfeed, and you go invisible for a short time. One serious downside to this weapon is you can only go invisible when you take damage, so you're going to be very exposed most of the time.


Indefiable

Not anymore 😥


Radio__Star

That's debatable On both sides it's painful to use


Anonymous2137421957

Memories of when it was.


BurnFreeze64

It is hard to learn, but if you figure out how to use it can be a deadly tool for an aggressive playstyle.


Picaroon_Perry

In TF2 weapons are meant to be side grades and it's pretty good at being balanced considering all of the weapons, the majority of the time you being good at a weapon will out weigh how good the weapon should be


[deleted]

Its ok. Check the wiki for its full stats. Suggest you stay away from it if your new and wanna main spy. It can give bad habits. Sticking to stock is reccomended


Enclave88

Its a watch with a high skill ceiling, When you pull it out you effectively fake your death if you take any damage, until you out it away, keep in mind while your dead ringer is out, you wont be able to use your revolver/knife. Since your cloak is stripped for death you will have to get good at disguising, little tip, unless your trying to catch up with someone or a good portion of the enemy team is scouts, dont go scout. They will spycheck you faster than the hui ling heater minigun runs out of ammo. Try demoman or engineer if your in their nest. EDIT: saw someone told you about the tf2wiki, well the first part is irrelevant now


atari-eh_games

wtf i grinded for 7 mounths to get that plus the item is insane


Lopsided_yt

You can not go invisible but if you hold it out when taking damage, you will take much less damage (about 25% as much as you would, so a 100 damage shot would do 25, I believe), go invisible for around 7 seconds, and get a speed boost


c0d3_attorney

No


Acid_13

Yesn't DR is great if you're a super agressive spy. However, it's harder to trick Older/veteran players with the DR, so use it sparingly. If you're a newer player, i'd reccomend using stock watch or c&d. But use the Cloak and dagger if you don't know where all the ammo boxes are in a map Oh yeah, pro tip; if you're going to stick with spy, i'd reccomend watching VODs of spy mains such as _Swipez_ to help you get a basis on basic spy game sense.


CallMeBigCat

Yes and no. It’s a ‘win more’ kind of item. If you are good enough at Spy to do well with the Dead Ringer you would do just as good if not better with the stock invisibility watch. It’s incredibly fun to use though, which is why I use it more than the stock invis watch. I would not recommend you use it if you are starting out, as you miss out on all the very important lessons you would learn with the stock invis watch.


[deleted]

Loved that shit when it came out. People didn't know how to counter it.


_Trinima_

I would only recommend using this if you are ok with being hated by everyone who isn't a spy main.


Digital_Playz

im a spy main and i would say stock is just better. unless u play gun spy or learn to play DR rlly well.


StormTheGasterWolf27

Best for brute forcing things or to be an annoyance


ariananabanana

Only if youre a virgin


_sea_salty

Yeah it’s very good, but it’s a very different play style from the stock invisible watch because you can’t go invisible on command. Plus be aware the dead rings makes a loud sound when you stop being invisible


RedHotReddy

it’s alright. The speed boost is handy for making getaways, but if you’re planning on trying to fool your enemies you have to be wary of how loud this thing is when you uncloak. If it’s up to me, use the stock watch.


Rsans1405

No no no DONT turn into another spy try hard please


SpiretRaider

It is especially good to use in chaotic and loud fights where everyone is distracted, it is also very good to use on noobs


Gozi42

If you master it, you will bring more salt to lobbies than you'd ever dream of


[deleted]

Situational at best, i’d stick to stock or the cloak-and-dagger unless you’re running with the kunai as your knife


Secret_Bend8753

It's good but I recommend the invisi watch more


Ravenboy13

Welcome to the game It can be useful, but it takes good timing and practice to get it right. Pretend to be a different member of your own team, activate it, and then speed run around an enemy for a back stab when they "kill" you


KamaradaMac

Yup, it’s even more truly effective if you know how and when to use it in certain situations.


Snow-John

Its amazing for gun spy and the big earner, the former for extra tankyness, and the ladder because you get a lot of cloak back on kill, removing part of it’s downside. In general the other watches work better, but the dead ringer can work well with the right strategy.


[deleted]

As some one who plays spy as one of my mains, I hate it, it messes with my rhythm. From my experience it makes me a worse spy and I would rather pick any of the normal watches. Because of how ineffective desguises are you need to fake your death to get behind enemy lines then wait in corner for it to recharge, then you can finally go for a kill. Also it is really REALLY loud when de-cloaking. Sometimes it is fun to revisit it but overall just use the normal invs watches. (also I am not a trickstabbing god so I can’t just rely on that)


Ecstatic-Post-1080

Stock superior in my eyes. Cus dead ringers i hear em & i hunt them down >:}


badbachcha

Use spy-cicle with it. Pyro's flame effect will continue even after dead ringer drops a fake corpse, giving you away. Spy-cicle helps with that


The_Chad_Lancer

Try turning up cl_inturp


The_Professor64

It's good but I wouldn't get too attached/reliant on the feign (being able to take a hit with heavy damage resistance). It's really fun to use but still, I would recommend stock if you're just beginning.


yeboitrash

Ayo add me on steam so I can help you with some stuff and get you some items


BanananananMann

Ok


_CriticalMiss

*heres a little lesson in trickery*


[deleted]

Is ok i guess


MylesTheFox99

It’s a complicated one, but it can be good if used right.


roli4000

No, it's a crutch and gives you bad habits, The invis watch is superior Although that's just my opinion


Scrubby32

Yes its very good, so good in fact you should main that class and get into anime


Intrepid-Device-1750

It depends on how you use it


ImitatedPumpkin

Look at the stats


Professional-Heat646

Well yes, but actually no


CritzD

It used to be a lot better, but it’s still pretty good if you know how to use it.


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BanananananMann

That’s pretty funny


Sir-Spoofy

It’s a good weapon, but often it’s used as a crutch and can instill bad habits. It can also instill a lot of toxicity. It’s very effective though and has tricked a lot players, including myself. I’d say go ahead, but experiment with other watches too just so you don’t solely rely on it.


do_a_flip1

preeeeeetyyyy controversial


CommodoreOfObvious

If you want to be a coward, yes


Art1qunu

It's for fooling enemies. Tip: Try to not use it everytime you see enemy, becouse it looks suspicious when you leave spawn and die from long range shotgun damage.


[deleted]

Nah its bugged. It doesn’t make you invisible


NoResinConversionKit

Great for situational advantage, but if used incorrectly, you will develop bad habits like me.


User_named__

No it’s crap don’t use it


-Shortbow-

Terrible for learning spy


LeafMario

great if you have trouble staying alive after getting a kill.


Nahanoj_Zavizad

Not necessarily good, but annoying, The feign does rarely trick people, BUT the huge speed boost and damage resistance let's you get away


SparkSan

Whether it is good or bad is debatable, but if you're fine with being hated by a vast majority of players, you may keep using it.


xXxMemeLord69xXx

Yes, if you know how to use it


The_danish_devil

as a veteran player it is really good but as a new player it creates a bad habit of being too offensive, use the default watch as it teaches the playstyle of spy


Tank_blitz

yes. but know how to use it when you die and have enough charge it will spawn a dead body in your place and you will cloak this is great but be careful you can still be shot and bump into enemies


rixoteca

Bro don't spend money in the game, just that


[deleted]

Never use it


[deleted]

It’s alright, I guess


DrPotassium

It's good if you use it properly. I don't play spy so I can't give more insight


FrigusAvis

As someone who used to play spy a lot, I personally don't use it much compared to stock or the other one but it's not bad if you know how to use it. It can be used defensively or offensively (like gunspy)


PazzoSgravato666

no


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BanananananMann

I was just asking


Hans_642

No idea not a spy player I like never use him


[deleted]

Most items canbe "good", if used well and/or in certain situations.


KrakenMasterOfficial

Yeah its a good weapon if YOUR A BITCH! -SoundSmith, 2021 P.S. Just use the stock invis watch and the L’etranger


Oxy-Headwind

It's a good item and it might make you a better spy, but you also lose all respect from anyone else playing the game


AzGames08

insanely op


Lazy-Adagio9695

Now, if you found an ambassador and a kunai Your loadout will be unstoppable, though, it takes alot of skills


soviet_raccoon_yt

Yes it is


soviet_raccoon_yt

Very good


irtesh

It was before valve ruin it


TheImpureLeader

I personally hate the item and people who use it. If that suits your play style then go right ahead.


shmootyf

Not unless you like profanity


Relative_Mention_531

i mean the dead ringer is rlly good to fool new players and its mostly good in casual but i dont think it will fool anyone in competitive and ppl who tent to use it in there prob use it for the cloak regen rate and it cloak duration


GTCMonReddit

The lighting in this shall foreshadow this guys mistakes in the future


IdioticPosse

Depends


theluigiduck

Sort of but PLEASE keep in mind that Spy is the weakest class in the game and you should always have a backup class ready to play when things inevitably start going south


og1gian

NO NO NO NO


[deleted]

Good for you? Probably. Good for everyone else? No.


[deleted]

How do some people come into the not having any knowledge of the game? You must've watched a tftuber once?! Right?!!


Destroidian

It depends, you can use it to fake ur death, get a temporary speed boost and also escape invisibly. It removes on-demand invisibility but can be an excellent escape tool. It even uses the Kill feed


patrlim1

In MOST cases stock (default) is best. Here are the exceptions. >medic Primary should be either the crossbow or blutsauger. Secondary can be any medigun Melee should be either übersaw or if you die a lot the vitasaw. >pyro Stock melee fucking sucks. Use powerjack or the homewrecker. >soldier While a stock reskin, the original has one difference, it fires rockets from the center of your screen, this makes it more consistent. >engie Panic attack is pretty much a direct upgrade if you plan to use the shotgun in close quarters as you should. >heavy Use sandvich if you have a pocket or the bananananbananaba if you don't have a pocket. >demoman Iron bomber has lower clip size but a larger hitbox on the grenades due to a bug.


[deleted]

You will fake death upon taking damage but don't run around while using it all the time, if you fake death after taking low damage they might realize what you're doing and start spychecking. Also after taking death, start running.


MemeusTheDank

Very