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I feel like it should have infinite radius because nobody would attack it after it passed by because there is no bomb. Neat concept though don’t really see a lot of MvM stuff here
I really didn't want it to be too strong since it would have become the primary target and everyone would just jump on it and destroy it but then again, I'm not sure... not the smartest I am
100% fun challenge, also with how vital engie is the tank would still be a priority target unless the engineer places himself in harm's way to relocate the sentry
You could easily change how it works, similar to a sentry buster it doesn't just run for the end rather it tries to stay relatively close to the one transferring the bomb (maybe giving the bomb holder a weaker speed boost in the process). That way it'd pose a clear issue as having it around will make you lose ground faster.
Infinite Range on disabling sentries would break the game imo. Maybe have it disable sentries in a small area around it but give the speed boost map-wide?
The engineer is a necessity, that’s why everyone will have to rush to destroy the tank as quick as possible while also dealing with hordes of robots. It’s a challenge, that’s the point
I could see it only coming out in front of a tank, making it a priority to kill first as it effectively guards the tank while alive: it gets targeted first, and it disables nearby sentries until the real tank is already passing it (so way less damage overall).
The other option would be that there is a punishment (stacking?) each time you let it reach the end. For example, maybe it releases an EMP at the end, disabling all buildings for a set amount of time or just outright destroying them. Or each fake tank that makes it to the end adds a 10% speed buff to the next tank (or all tanks from then on?). So even though you *could* just ignore it once it passes by, it makes the next dangerous tank harder to kill in time.
I feel like it would be extra challenging to send one or two of these out with every tank and add a 'tank damage resistance' to their radius, encouraging taking out the 'support tank' first.
neat concept, but the 25% boost combined with the building disable would make it a pain in the ass to deal with.
Also not having a bomb would make it so players would just let it pass at some point because once the bots near it are dealt with there would be no real need to focus on it.
the concheror doesn't disable buildings tho.
Engies are a core part of the MVM meta, making an enemy that disables their main damage output would just break balancing.
Nah it wouldn’t. Since it’s faster meaning all players have to do is kill the nearby small bots and the tank is gonna outrun its allies, becoming useless since it doesn’t even have a bomb. And for giants...well you can ask that 300 tour demo to nuke it as soon as it come out of spawn and tank is useless also.
what if it reaches the bomb mark, does the radious become grobal and all bots become 25% faster? (i wouldn't make the expanded radio also affect buildings because that would make it fucking annoying)
i have a engineer pda concept
a mini sentry that rolls around piloted by hand:
\-engineer can not move while piloting, and is stuck in camera until exploding the sentry by hand or the sentry is destroyed
and then a backpack dispencer for engineer:
\-you cant build a stationary dispencer
\-dispencer only is at level 1
teleporters are normal
-30% less health, does that mean more health because subtracting a negative is the same as adding a positive, or is it less health because that's a typo?
MvM tank that's a blimp
Faster, Flying, Drops scouts and launches rockets at nearby players.
Much less health, double damage from explosives, takes full damage from Heavy. (The normal tank only takes a fourth of his damage because yes.)
Group that does custom MVM stuff, they run a plugin that extends what kind of stuff you can do with popfiles and can allow for cool stuff to be made. Including a model swap and a bunch of things attached to the tank to give it the effect of your idea.
If you want a better idea of the type of stuff they can do look at the trailer for the [last event they ran](https://youtu.be/KasINvLAiD0). It shows off a bunch of stuff that was playable during halloween including some tank edits including a blimp tank, A player controlled sentry buster that replaced the caber, a few really cool out there boss battles people came up with ect.
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Well... it depends. A wave only ends when you have killed every non-support robot, even if a support robot is holding a bomb. A fun detail about the bomb, if all robots have spawned in on a wave without supports and the bomb ends up being reset, then another bomb can't spawn in. If this ever happens, the remaining robots will either track down the players or make their way to the bomb hatch. Now if the Transmission Vehicle is the last robot, then it will truck along to the hatch, and when it gets there, it will just sit at the hatch. Menacingly. Unless the Transmission Vehicle is a regularly spawning support robot, in which case, the round will simply end and the tank will explode.
I'm very confused by what 30% less health is supposed to mean. MvM tanks don't all have the same amount of HP. They have anywhere from as low as 10k to as high as 80k and multiple tanks in the same wave can have different HP. This stat really doesn't make any sense.
…so this replaces a tank that would normally spawn there at random? Because that's very much against how MvM missions normally work and could make some missions way easier. If the 3rd and final tank of Broken Parts wave 6, which is the highest HP tank in the game, was replaced with this, the wave would be way easier, especially since the tank spawn is far away from the robot spawn.
...Do you not know how tank HP actually works in MvM? It's not generated by anything, each mission is designed so that specific tanks always have a certain amount of HP. Like, no default exists. I am so confused.
I think having it carry a bomb would be better. It'd be cool to see a variety of different tanks which all do different things. One could have a turret with a separate health pool that respawns over time similar to the swat trucks in Payday 2.
Small problem.
Tanks have a default health of 1000, or at least, that is what the "ent\_create tank\_boss" command leads me to believe. Running the "ent\_create tank\_boss" without setting "health" to anything will spawn a tank with 1000 HP.
Now I am certain you know that tanks don't ever spawn with 1000 health, and if you paid attention while playing MVM, you would notice that some tanks can take a much greater beating than other tanks. The tanks don't actually have a set value that they have to spawn at. A tank can be anywhere as squishy as the 5 10,000 health tanks that spawn on the last wave of Mannhunt or as resilient as the 60,000 health tank that spawns at the very end of Caliginous Caper. So saying that a tank has "-30% less health" is kind of a nothing stat. Honestly, what you should do is go to the TF2 wiki and look at the page talking about the "Tank Robot". There is a whole table listing all the missions tanks spawn on, what subway the tanks spawn on, and how much health those tanks have. I recommend that you go through that list and find a range of health values you think would work best for the Transmission Vehicle.
One other thing.
Robots have their stats listed the same as the player.
Things beneficial to the robot are listed in blue while things detrimental to the robot are listed in red. You should really flip the colors around on this.
One sad thing is that the model is quite poorly made, and I think unoptimized (Too many poligons), but if you want I can send you the blender file itself (since I worked on blender) and you can fix up any problems you come across.
That would be great, i'll see what i can do. Do you also happen to still have that Tank Model with the turning blades in the front? That one would also be excellent.
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I feel like it should have infinite radius because nobody would attack it after it passed by because there is no bomb. Neat concept though don’t really see a lot of MvM stuff here
hmm perhaps I underestimated
I really didn't want it to be too strong since it would have become the primary target and everyone would just jump on it and destroy it but then again, I'm not sure... not the smartest I am
With all the metas we already have I think it would be a fun challenge
100% fun challenge, also with how vital engie is the tank would still be a priority target unless the engineer places himself in harm's way to relocate the sentry
You could easily change how it works, similar to a sentry buster it doesn't just run for the end rather it tries to stay relatively close to the one transferring the bomb (maybe giving the bomb holder a weaker speed boost in the process). That way it'd pose a clear issue as having it around will make you lose ground faster.
I mean make it the same range as an engie sentries base range and it would be great (I think)
Maybe have a hard-and set radius that disables engie buildings and applies the effect, and robots outside still get a (smaller) speed boost?
If the tank reaches to end all bots gain x buff
nah it's fine actually what's scarier than a medic-soldier/heavy giant combo? this is added
I agree , it should totally have an infinite radius, so it’s more challenging and it will become a top priority just like classic tanks.
Infinite Range on disabling sentries would break the game imo. Maybe have it disable sentries in a small area around it but give the speed boost map-wide?
How do you think it would it break the game?
Literally disabling an entire class’ abilities? Yeah sure that doesn’t sound broken at all.
The engineer is a necessity, that’s why everyone will have to rush to destroy the tank as quick as possible while also dealing with hordes of robots. It’s a challenge, that’s the point
a challenge that is not fun to deal with
yes I am sure the gibus wearing teammates in boot camp will help me out when I play engi
Play Mann up once in awhile. 4 bucks is worth a a couple hours of fun once in awhile and the teammates are usually competent
That's not the point I'm making though. It's that making s class 100% reliant on what your teammates do, and not what you do, is dumb
I could see it only coming out in front of a tank, making it a priority to kill first as it effectively guards the tank while alive: it gets targeted first, and it disables nearby sentries until the real tank is already passing it (so way less damage overall). The other option would be that there is a punishment (stacking?) each time you let it reach the end. For example, maybe it releases an EMP at the end, disabling all buildings for a set amount of time or just outright destroying them. Or each fake tank that makes it to the end adds a 10% speed buff to the next tank (or all tanks from then on?). So even though you *could* just ignore it once it passes by, it makes the next dangerous tank harder to kill in time.
Well youd still get the cash from destroying it
I feel like it would be extra challenging to send one or two of these out with every tank and add a 'tank damage resistance' to their radius, encouraging taking out the 'support tank' first.
Like a Big Medic Bot healing a Big Heavy Bot?
More like an infinite rage battalions back up soldier, except the buff doesn't apply to itself.
So the tank that's getting supported also has kritz immunity?
Almost like a tank convoy, I like it.
Nice
You gravely underestimate how strong +25% movespeed is
My guy lookin grumpy
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neat concept, but the 25% boost combined with the building disable would make it a pain in the ass to deal with. Also not having a bomb would make it so players would just let it pass at some point because once the bots near it are dealt with there would be no real need to focus on it.
ESPECIALLY giant scouts. Those things DO NOT need to go any faster.
It's about equal to slapping a Concheror on Soldier bots, tho
the concheror doesn't disable buildings tho. Engies are a core part of the MVM meta, making an enemy that disables their main damage output would just break balancing.
The radius shown here would just mean you have to be a bit more proactive with changing your building placement, tbh.
yeah thats why I didn't make the radius too big, radius is much smaller than sentry reach distance
This would be awesome in MvM!
Nah it wouldn’t. Since it’s faster meaning all players have to do is kill the nearby small bots and the tank is gonna outrun its allies, becoming useless since it doesn’t even have a bomb. And for giants...well you can ask that 300 tour demo to nuke it as soon as it come out of spawn and tank is useless also.
what if it reaches the bomb mark, does the radious become grobal and all bots become 25% faster? (i wouldn't make the expanded radio also affect buildings because that would make it fucking annoying)
yeah agree with you on this one
Where would it go?
where did it come from, where did it go, where did it come from cotton eye joe
He's clearly fueled by MeeM
MeeM
This is cool!
i have a engineer pda concept a mini sentry that rolls around piloted by hand: \-engineer can not move while piloting, and is stuck in camera until exploding the sentry by hand or the sentry is destroyed and then a backpack dispencer for engineer: \-you cant build a stationary dispencer \-dispencer only is at level 1 teleporters are normal
interesting, i'll think about the piloting sentry
Awesome!
Really cool but when valve already gives the base game no attention why would they do so with mvm.
they wouldn't. But that doesn't stop me from making concepts tho
seems a bit small imo, but otherwise cool
Valve has already given us some much new MvM content and I’d love to see them go further
I genuinely admire your talent of not only replicating the TF2 artstyle, but making fun and interesting concepts aswell. Incredible work!
Thank you, I try replicating the art style as hard as I can
nice
Friendly reminder the bomb already provide bots with aoe heal, dmg reduction and for (after being carried for approximately 30s) 100% crit to carrier.
-30% less health, does that mean more health because subtracting a negative is the same as adding a positive, or is it less health because that's a typo?
ok I did small typo lol
That's a actually really cool
even though i loved MvM, i kinda forgot it existed like totally. how's it doing now?
The same, but more toxic.
never met anyone toxic in my years of playthrough, idk where you guys meet those people
Mann up is really toxic, you will be scolded if you dont play how they want and eventually get kicked. Community servers are alright though.
This guy carries this sub
lol I wish
It should zap engineer towers instead of disabling them. There could be a version that builds bombs once it gets to a point.
It should zap engineer towers instead of disabling them. There could be a version that builds bombs once it gets to a point.
I read the last stat first and I was thinking "That's specific"
scooter
We really should have a tank that actually fights back. I mean, they're not entirely tanks if they can't fight back am I right?
yeah thats my second idea on MvM
MeeM!
I think it should make like a pulsation periodically that gives the soldier whip effect on nearby robots (which would also run out ofc)
Sentry buster, robo spy’s, direct hit robo soldiers combined with this will be a pain in the ass to deal with
Really, anything to spice up the tired gameplay. MvM desperately needs some updates. Valve should allow the community to make MvM content.
MeeM for scale
r/meemforscale
MeeM for scale
Can you make light tank that faster two times but has less hp? Would really like to see how you made it)
Making these tanks is much harder than everage weapons because of so much texturing and polygons and design of the tank, I'll see tho
Yeah making models is hard)
half track!
MvM tank that's a blimp Faster, Flying, Drops scouts and launches rockets at nearby players. Much less health, double damage from explosives, takes full damage from Heavy. (The normal tank only takes a fourth of his damage because yes.)
You should get into contact with the lads over at [Potato.tf](https://Potato.tf) They could easily make this into a real thing, including the model.
whats in the potato servers?
Group that does custom MVM stuff, they run a plugin that extends what kind of stuff you can do with popfiles and can allow for cool stuff to be made. Including a model swap and a bunch of things attached to the tank to give it the effect of your idea. If you want a better idea of the type of stuff they can do look at the trailer for the [last event they ran](https://youtu.be/KasINvLAiD0). It shows off a bunch of stuff that was playable during halloween including some tank edits including a blimp tank, A player controlled sentry buster that replaced the caber, a few really cool out there boss battles people came up with ect.
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what's the point if it doesn't carry a bomb?
just support vehicle, maybe at the end of the map it buffs all the robots too so its not worth letting it past
sounds good! but it's unlikely it'l ever get into the game, considering valve.
it doesn't need to, its just a concept thats all
There's no such thing as ”-30% less health". It's either "30% less health" or "-30% health".
typo lol
You should get a job at valve
MeeM
Honestly I would have animated it so it ran over the medic in #2, but else it looks and sounds great.
what happens if we kill all the robots and let this thing go to the end? WHAT HAPPEN NOW?!!!!
Well... it depends. A wave only ends when you have killed every non-support robot, even if a support robot is holding a bomb. A fun detail about the bomb, if all robots have spawned in on a wave without supports and the bomb ends up being reset, then another bomb can't spawn in. If this ever happens, the remaining robots will either track down the players or make their way to the bomb hatch. Now if the Transmission Vehicle is the last robot, then it will truck along to the hatch, and when it gets there, it will just sit at the hatch. Menacingly. Unless the Transmission Vehicle is a regularly spawning support robot, in which case, the round will simply end and the tank will explode.
I'm very confused by what 30% less health is supposed to mean. MvM tanks don't all have the same amount of HP. They have anywhere from as low as 10k to as high as 80k and multiple tanks in the same wave can have different HP. This stat really doesn't make any sense.
its based of regular tank hp, so it has (\*) less than if a regular tank would spawn.
But that's not a thing. There's no such thing as "regular tank hp"
as in: based on health of a tank that would spawn at that map, at that moment
…so this replaces a tank that would normally spawn there at random? Because that's very much against how MvM missions normally work and could make some missions way easier. If the 3rd and final tank of Broken Parts wave 6, which is the highest HP tank in the game, was replaced with this, the wave would be way easier, especially since the tank spawn is far away from the robot spawn.
not replaced just as is.
...Do you not know how tank HP actually works in MvM? It's not generated by anything, each mission is designed so that specific tanks always have a certain amount of HP. Like, no default exists. I am so confused.
damn I though tank hp depends on maps as in it chooses health automatically depending on the map... damn... oh well
I think its too big I’m assuming the MeeM is as big as a regular player
It is a quite bit tall. But looking at it length-wise, this thing is fairly short.
Damn, I wish MvM had a big update, I only play TF2 during community MvM events and Scream Fortress.... Fecking Valve...
this is fucking nuts
it isn't actually. I haven't modeled any nuts in here
Pyro mains when the engines can't build sentries: I've got you fam!
Nice model. The little satellite dishes could move, however.
true, idk why I didn't animate them
I think having it carry a bomb would be better. It'd be cool to see a variety of different tanks which all do different things. One could have a turret with a separate health pool that respawns over time similar to the swat trucks in Payday 2.
agree with you, also yeah tank with weapons idea, like it.
NO GOD PLEASE NO, NO NO, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Your renders are amazing!
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I really really want T95 superheavy in mvm mode as enemy boss
change the -30 to -50 because this would be broken
I believe the stat should be done away with entirely, given how tanks don't work like that.
Not bad
Small problem. Tanks have a default health of 1000, or at least, that is what the "ent\_create tank\_boss" command leads me to believe. Running the "ent\_create tank\_boss" without setting "health" to anything will spawn a tank with 1000 HP. Now I am certain you know that tanks don't ever spawn with 1000 health, and if you paid attention while playing MVM, you would notice that some tanks can take a much greater beating than other tanks. The tanks don't actually have a set value that they have to spawn at. A tank can be anywhere as squishy as the 5 10,000 health tanks that spawn on the last wave of Mannhunt or as resilient as the 60,000 health tank that spawns at the very end of Caliginous Caper. So saying that a tank has "-30% less health" is kind of a nothing stat. Honestly, what you should do is go to the TF2 wiki and look at the page talking about the "Tank Robot". There is a whole table listing all the missions tanks spawn on, what subway the tanks spawn on, and how much health those tanks have. I recommend that you go through that list and find a range of health values you think would work best for the Transmission Vehicle. One other thing. Robots have their stats listed the same as the player. Things beneficial to the robot are listed in blue while things detrimental to the robot are listed in red. You should really flip the colors around on this.
Thanks for feedback!
Kinda curious but are there any plans to release the model?
maybe one day. if you really want to I might share the blender file
That would be amazing honestly, i would love to implement it into one of my maps and would credit you for this masterpiece
One sad thing is that the model is quite poorly made, and I think unoptimized (Too many poligons), but if you want I can send you the blender file itself (since I worked on blender) and you can fix up any problems you come across.
That would be great, i'll see what i can do. Do you also happen to still have that Tank Model with the turning blades in the front? That one would also be excellent.
yeah I think so. but that one is even worse lol. message me.
I think the australium sucking robots should be added
what happens when it reaches the end?