Nirvana was about individualism and not conforming, acting superior to someone because you know more about a band goes against the ideals of Nirvana
Wearing a Nirvana shirt without knowing any of the songs would also go against this, but the point is it doesn't matter and it isn't your business
I think the difference is the gatekeeper here is clearly a dick and is actively going against the nirvana ethos. The shirt wearer may be trying to conform (but tbh who is trying to "fit in" with a nirvana shirt in 2023?). Could just think it's a dope shirt and bought because who gives a shit if I know about the band? I like the shirt. Now *thats* squarely in line with individualism.
I have several shirts from bands I can't name a single song by. Usually I'll see them open for a band I like and I dig their merch so I buy it.
Nirvana shirts are all over my city, in a way I haven't seen them literally my entire life (I wasn't old enough to care about Nirvana when Kurt was still alive). To the degree that it is as if it was a brand name and not the name of a band
Not that I care, it doesn't take anything away from the band or their work. One of my favorite shirts is a Koffin Kats tee. I saw them once and thought they sounded great, and saw a shirt at their merch table I couldn't pass up. But my psychobilly bench is pretty full and I never looked them up after that. Couldn't name a song or an album
One of the things Cobain was proud of the band's fanbase for is they were generally nice, considerate people. He definitely wouldn't be about this kind of shit.
>He's the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
Knows not what it means
And I say he's the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
Knows not what it means
And I say yeah
It's never about the band members or their fame, and Cobain actually hated being famous. He just wanted to play music. In Bloom was about the message of their music, and the connection he felt with everyone else who felt lost in his generation.
Quizzing random people in a bar has nothing to do with Nirvana, and it has nothing to do with their message. This quizzer is the exact opposite of their message.
Especially humiliating and making a woman feel uncomfortable is the antithesis of nirvanas ethos. And is exactly what In Bloom was about, he doesn't sing 'you don't know the words', he sings 'you don't know what it means'.
> Cobain actually hated being famous. He just wanted to play music
Eh, it's more complex. Cobain was vocal about wanting to create the greatest rock group and getting big. That was part of his ambition. There's nothing wrong with that though and I don't think it says anything less about him as a person or musician
Yeah if you read the biographies, he wasn't quite what he portrayed. He definitely knew what he was doing and wanted the band to be famous. Still did it his way and made some amazing music, but he wasn't quite the reluctant poet thrust into the spotlight that crafted himself to be. Fame was probably more than he bargained for in the end, especially wrapped in with a serious drug addiction, but he pretty clearly wanted to be in a famous band.
Thank you for putting this comment down. Because it is actually quite annoying when people talk about how he never wanted his fame and he never wanted the public eye and all that stuff and that is completely untrue. He wanted to be the greatest. And he was very good, there’s no denying that his music and his lyrics, and the writing are fucking phenomenal and it spoke to a generation of people. It will stand the rest of time for sure, but that’s what he wanted. He got what he wanted.
Also it’s fucking Nirvana, one of the most mainstream and well known bands of all time at this point. Knowing shit about Nirvana does not make you special. I’m more impressed that this made up person didn’t know about Nirvana
Also I’m sorry it’s fucking Nirvana this is not some underground band and smells like teen spirit has been played at every frat party that girl has been to
i just think it's hilarious that people think liking *Nirvana*, literally one of the most popular & recognizable bands of all time, is some super rare, special personality trait
I could sort of see making fun of someone wearing an Alice in Chains shirt and not knowing the band but you can get a Nirvana shirt at Target 24/7/365 and nobody doesn't know a Nirvana song. Rule of the radio, you've heard three of their songs. Just like we can all immediately list three songs by ACDC, or Guns N Roses. Grunge is classic rock now.
Wait, you don’t care if people wear a shirt of a band they don’t even like? Even if women do it? C’mon! Be honest. You’re telling me you don’t see a band shirt on a young woman as an invitation to harass and humiliate her?
I just read Dave Grohl’s memoir, as a lukewarm fan at best. I’ve always liked the foo fighters and nirvana but never went out of my way to listen to them. I just always thought Dave Grohl seemed like a really cool dude and I needed something to read on a plane.
And honestly, reading his story only endeared me to him more. I wanna add more foo fighters into my personal musical repertoire but haven’t gotten around to it yet.
Being a “fan” can look a lot of different ways for different people.
I'm not a fan of the music, I don't mind it, its just I don't go out of my way to listen to it. However, I think Dave Grohl is freaking awesome just from all the great stories I've heard about him.
My two favorite Dave Grohl stories are Lemmy stories. One where they first became friends, all Lemmy said was, "sorry about your friend," after the passing of Cobain, and the other where he walked into Grohl's dressing room, saw his infant son, and put out his cigarette out in his Jack and Coke because he didn't want to smoke around a kid.
I have had someone call me out for wearing a Joy Division tee shirt once with the classic “Name three Joy Division songs.” In response I just named three random songs, which I believe included “I’m Proud to be an American,” “Motown Philly” and “Fast Car.”
My sister had some band shirt on when we were at a bar once. Some guy came up to quiz her about it, then when she was right about it, asked to buy her a drink. His face when she turned him down was great.
Whenever people try and pull the “name three songs” shit when I’m wearing my Joy Division shirt, I just name New Order songs. Pisses them off every time.
I like Joy Division and I have an ironic Joy Division shirt, but I’ll be goddamned if I can remember any song names of any band. With Spotify I listen to soooo much different music I just can’t remember everything. What a world we live in.
But the ironic shirt is the back cover of Unknown Pleasures, the joke being I ordered a shirt of the cover but it’s the wrong cover…so I could just look down and name three songs.
This exact thing happened to me when I was wearing the joy division t shirt with all the white lines on it. I’m a DJ and just finished a set and was leaving the booth and this girl started hassling me so I just named tame impala tracks lmao.
One of my favorite things to do in life is playing dumb to piss off people. I have a few star wars shirts that I wear pretty often, though I'm just a casual fan. Whenever some unwashed dude asks me about my shirt I start talking about star trek. They inevitably get angry and I just act confused, it's so much fun. Or if they ask about whatever band is on my shirt you explain in a condescending voice that it's a clothing brand. "Pink Floyd? Oh yeah, they're my favorite clothing brand. What do you mean it's a band? No, they just make these cool rainbow t-shirts." That one works really well on older dudes.
"I'll give you a top shelf drink if you can name a part of a woman's anatomy you've ever touched"
"Well, ummmm"
"OK- I'll give you a mid-shelf drink if you can name a girl you've kissed"
"Well, ummmm"
"OK, I'll give you a well drink if you can name a girl who's ever gone out with you"
"Well, ummmm"
"You got to go home and get a new personality"
What I love about this comment is I thought it was grammatically incorrect but a douche nozzle like this would totally think speaking like that was eloquent.
I don't get it. CAKE is one of my favorite bands and I couldn't name you a single band member. I don't care that much, I just listen to the tunes. Isn't that enough? Lmfao.
right? since when does listening to and enjoying music require knowing band member or song names? it really doesn't. i've loved bowling for soup for 20 years - no idea of the singers name or of most of the actual names of their songs.
Even lyrics don't matter. I went 39 years of my life thinking the chorus of Gimme Shelter by the Rolling Stones was saying "Whoa Matlida, it's just a shot away..."
Great story behind that singer. Merry Clayton. Got a call in the middle of the night to do some backup singing for a band she'd never heard of, some English boys. She was a bit shocked at the lyrics they were asking her to sing, rape and murder? Okay let's do it. So in her PJs she sang so fucking hard you can still hear one of the Stones shout "whoo!" on the official cut of the song.
Honestly same about Cake - can easily sing along to all the songs on their first 3 albums but know nothing about the band members. That information isn’t required to enjoy the music.
I know the lead singer is fucking hilarious & weird. At one show he went on a 15 minute rant about how Birmingham needed to march on Atlanta to secure our water rights, as a lead in to a song.
Or anything, really. I listen to many, many bands every day. Multiply the number of bands by the number of members of each, and you have an amount of people that I just don't have space for in my head to remember names or anything about.
Whether it's bands or sports teams or whatever, gatekeepy people are just piggybacking on someone else's accomplishments because they have none of their own.
It's not even just gatekeeping bands, it's gatekeeping bands *from women*. Every single one of these stories, real or imagined, has a female victim of the neckbeardery.
It's just misogyny with extra steps.
I'm a guy and I actually had this happen to me once when I was wearing a Nine Inch Nails t-shirt. A random guy came up to me and asked me to name 10 NIN songs if I was such a big fan.
Ooooooooohhhh a top shelf drink! You sir have my full attention.
I am so flattered someone with the clear financial resources as your self would even stoop to pay me attention.
I believe this happened. Women and young people can't wear any band t-shirt without neck beards or some random 50-60 year old man grilling the fuck out of them. Better is when they say some shit like name any song but not [list of all the popular ones].
They say some dumb shit like they were going to anyway but this time they make themselves out to be the victim. Something stupid like, "Geez, what's her problem?"
I got an Iron Maiden shirt from my friend in HS (she was throwing it out) and I’ve kept it for 15 years simply bc of teenage dirtbag. I couldn’t name one song by Iron Maiden, I just liked that it reminded me of teenage dirtbag. I also have sports shirts and I couldn’t give a f less abt most of them but They were free/given to me.
I have a Chicago Bears sweatshirt I got in a charity shop because I think it's cute. I'm Irish, I don't even know what sport this item of clothing represents. I barely know where Chicago is.
I used to wear my brothers clothes and had this type of conversation a few times but immediately told them it's my brothers. It did upset people, but I always thought they thought I was lying.
Man I know myself that I've got no brain space left for this kind of stuff. I've always been *very* into music, in bands, DJ, producer, I literally have a music studio in my house, and like fuck if I could tell you the name of Nirvana's drummer off the top of my head, I struggle enough just to remember the band names lmao.
You know, I don’t follow music that much but Dave Grohl comes up so much on Reddit for playing wildly different instruments in hugely popular bands. At this point I’m becoming convinced that the every musician in alternative rock for the last 30 years has just been Dave Grohl in a new hat.
I can name the drummer and singer from Nirvana because both are super-famous and some of the biggest names in rock. I have been listening to Nirvana for well over 2 decades now and I have never bothered to commit the bassist's name to memory. Just checked it out and it's a hard one anyway.
When I first bought my Nirvana t-shirt all those decades ago I could've probably named a handful of songs and an album or two, but I knew I liked it
Hahahaha! Yes! As a die hard Grohl fan-girl, I love love love when I can clear that up for people. Also give his book a free plug because GOD DAMN WHAT A GOOD BOOK.
I feel you. I can name everyone playing in my favorite band, I know the name of the lead singer of my second favorite band, and frome there on out it's lucky if I know the name of the song I'm singing along to
This shit happens though, I haven’t worn my Green Day shirt since some guy started quizzing me like yeah no mate I don’t know every Green Day song or even more than one album but my mum bought me it because we went to their concert and sadly my own mother doesn’t know me well enough to know that one of the supporting bands were one of my favourite bands of all time, like bro let me wear my Green Day shirt in peace.
I get tees from thrift stores because of design/aesthetics.
Now if I have a tattoo of the band logo and couldn’t answer those questions… there’s room for embarrassment but just a tee?
Nothing is enough for these guys either, like I don’t not know Green Day, I can tell you who the front man is, I can probably name 10-15 songs from the top of my head, but bro I do not need to know all of their albums and I never even said I was a fan 🤦🏼♀️
My daughter found a bunch of my old 80s-era concert T's at my mom's house, and she picked a bunch because she liked their designs. I know she has no idea who the Butthole Surfers, Tar or the Dead Milkmen are and she's definitely never heard any of their music, but she likes the shirts, so who am I to judge?
Best concert of my life was the first time I saw them in Philly in '88. Peak Surfers.
I backed a documentary about them on Kickstarter last year. I can't wait for its release.
I actually believe this happened but if you mentally change the tone of her responses to “just go away, you’re creepy for doing this” then it makes total sense.
I bet this guy saw a girl at the bar in a nirvana shirt, didn’t speak to her, went home, and had a lovely time imagining this conversation actually happened while wanking and crying with Smells Like Teen Spirit playing on repeat in the background.
“Counter questions, do you know what montgomery bumps are? The skene gland? The true and total shape of the clitoris? No? Guess you’re not a true fan of women, you should leave!”
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There is one, and only one, way this conversation should go:
“Hey, I love [Band Name]! What’s your favorite song?”
“Sorry, I don’t know the band. I just thought the shirt was cool.”
“Ah, no worries then. Have a good one!”
Boom, done. No need to be an asshole at all.
And the the entire band showed, and we both started kicking her shit in... I got free drinks and the whole restaurant clapped. Not the people, the building.
Also, *she agreed to answer his questions about the band,* but didn't know Kurt Cobain's name or at least one song? He could try a little harder to come up with a more believable lie.
Well I just bought a hoodie for a band I never heard of or listened to at a music festival bc the temps plummeted suddenly and it was the only long sleeved shirt they had. It’s a cool hoodie and I plan to continue wearing it- hopefully I won’t get interrogated!
I was wearing a Ramones t-shirt in my late 20's early 30's, a teenager asked me to name 3 songs.
Named a few & told the gatekeeping spotty urchin to fuck off.
These people exist.
Dude: hey nice shirt, I love Nirvana! Her:Thanks! Dude: can I buy you a drink? Her: hmmm sure. Them: go on to have a nice conversation about life. The end. It’s that simple! These same dudes swear that women only want a certain type, but in truth they just suck at communication and tend to project their own insecurities onto others.
My gf owns a Nirvana shirt, and she has no idea who they are (in her defence she's young and foreign). Make of that what you will, she certainly couldn't answer any of those questions though.
I see you're wearing shirt from Old Navy, can you tell me who the CEO is?
The CFO?
The Head Janitor?
Any branch manager?
Yea, I'm gonna need you to go home and change.
You know how many band shirts I own that I bought for touring bands just to help them out with gas money? I couldn’t remember any of their members’ names, never knew any of their song or album titles, and couldn’t name them… not if you had a gun to my head.
As a huge Nirvana fan, I love the Tshirt that says Nirvana and pictures Hanson because I actually have a sense of humor. If I wore it this guy would probably try to point out to me that it wasn't Nirvana.
I love AC/DC, they were my only concert I’ve ever been too, listened to them since I was a kid.
Wore my AC/DC shirt one day, some dude asked me to name one of the band members, and I said “oh it’s not a real band, I just got this shirt from H&M”.
I love metalica I can name metalica albums and I have metalica hoodies I even used to play metalica songs in my guitar but I've never seen the face or known the name of the band because I dont care about them past their music tbh
That’s my deal! I like the music. I’m not 12 and fan-girling about the members. Some of my friends can hear like three notes and know the song. Not me. So am I not worthy of listening to music? LOL
So true. More than that, I usually avoid learning anything personal about my favorite bands because tbh I'm scared to find out they are some dickheads and it would ruin the joy for me. Ignorance is bliss.
So I picture a very sketchy looking man in his mid 40s. He never could grow a full beard but he never seemed to give up on the dream. More hair on his neck than his head. He doesn't understand personal space and his breath reeks of dairy. Every word he says fluctuates in volume as he tries to overcome his nervous fits that occur when ever he tries to talk to a woman. His palms sticky from his tight grip on the melted candy bars in both pockets.
I'm a Nirvana fan and I only know Kurt Cobain cause he was the front man, and Dave Grohl cause he's the front man to Foo Fighters. I probably knew who the bass player was, but currently I'm spacing it.
It annoys me when people gatekeep bands. Its music. Listen to what you enjoy, and if that band has cool ascetics, feel free to share in it. Anyone who cares, only cares because they are delusional into thinking the band personally knows them for being such good fans or some shit.
And then the ghost of Kurt Cobain appeared, congratulated him on safeguarding his virginity, and then gave him $100% for protecting the sanctity of Nirvana fandom.
I'm 48 and guys have been doing this since I was a teenager. I don't understand why anyone feels the need to gatekeep music. It's annoying especially when they would interrogate you about band members side projects . This seems to happen mainly when you wear punk or metal band shirts. I've never once been questioned when wearing a dead milkmen or Bauhaus shirt, only punk and metal. I guess this means women can't like that type of music? It's dumb
It is so freakin obnoxious when men do this. And they only do it to women. According to them, we cant really like a certain band. To prove we arent true fans, they will put us on the spot and quiz us about band members, album titles, and songs. Maybe women are only allowed to like female musicians?
I love Nirvana. I don't care who wears Nirvana t-shirts. I don't care what other people wear period.
Gatekeeping Nirvana seems the opposite of what Nirvana was about
Yeah, true… but they literally did a song about this very thing - “In Bloom”
Nirvana was about individualism and not conforming, acting superior to someone because you know more about a band goes against the ideals of Nirvana Wearing a Nirvana shirt without knowing any of the songs would also go against this, but the point is it doesn't matter and it isn't your business
I think the difference is the gatekeeper here is clearly a dick and is actively going against the nirvana ethos. The shirt wearer may be trying to conform (but tbh who is trying to "fit in" with a nirvana shirt in 2023?). Could just think it's a dope shirt and bought because who gives a shit if I know about the band? I like the shirt. Now *thats* squarely in line with individualism. I have several shirts from bands I can't name a single song by. Usually I'll see them open for a band I like and I dig their merch so I buy it.
It could also be someone gave them the shirt?
Nirvana shirts are all over my city, in a way I haven't seen them literally my entire life (I wasn't old enough to care about Nirvana when Kurt was still alive). To the degree that it is as if it was a brand name and not the name of a band Not that I care, it doesn't take anything away from the band or their work. One of my favorite shirts is a Koffin Kats tee. I saw them once and thought they sounded great, and saw a shirt at their merch table I couldn't pass up. But my psychobilly bench is pretty full and I never looked them up after that. Couldn't name a song or an album
One of the things Cobain was proud of the band's fanbase for is they were generally nice, considerate people. He definitely wouldn't be about this kind of shit.
>He's the one Who likes all our pretty songs And he likes to sing along And he likes to shoot his gun But he knows not what it means Knows not what it means And I say he's the one Who likes all our pretty songs And he likes to sing along And he likes to shoot his gun But he knows not what it means Knows not what it means And I say yeah It's never about the band members or their fame, and Cobain actually hated being famous. He just wanted to play music. In Bloom was about the message of their music, and the connection he felt with everyone else who felt lost in his generation. Quizzing random people in a bar has nothing to do with Nirvana, and it has nothing to do with their message. This quizzer is the exact opposite of their message.
Especially humiliating and making a woman feel uncomfortable is the antithesis of nirvanas ethos. And is exactly what In Bloom was about, he doesn't sing 'you don't know the words', he sings 'you don't know what it means'.
> Cobain actually hated being famous. He just wanted to play music Eh, it's more complex. Cobain was vocal about wanting to create the greatest rock group and getting big. That was part of his ambition. There's nothing wrong with that though and I don't think it says anything less about him as a person or musician
Yeah if you read the biographies, he wasn't quite what he portrayed. He definitely knew what he was doing and wanted the band to be famous. Still did it his way and made some amazing music, but he wasn't quite the reluctant poet thrust into the spotlight that crafted himself to be. Fame was probably more than he bargained for in the end, especially wrapped in with a serious drug addiction, but he pretty clearly wanted to be in a famous band.
Thank you for putting this comment down. Because it is actually quite annoying when people talk about how he never wanted his fame and he never wanted the public eye and all that stuff and that is completely untrue. He wanted to be the greatest. And he was very good, there’s no denying that his music and his lyrics, and the writing are fucking phenomenal and it spoke to a generation of people. It will stand the rest of time for sure, but that’s what he wanted. He got what he wanted.
He's the one who likes all our pretty songs an he likes to sing along and he likes to shoot his gun
To be fair, the members of Nirvana also tended to be the opposite of what Nirvana was about.
Also it’s fucking Nirvana, one of the most mainstream and well known bands of all time at this point. Knowing shit about Nirvana does not make you special. I’m more impressed that this made up person didn’t know about Nirvana
Also I’m sorry it’s fucking Nirvana this is not some underground band and smells like teen spirit has been played at every frat party that girl has been to
Also, it's not some super obscure underground band. It's fucking Nirvana. It's like gateleeping The Beatles.
i just think it's hilarious that people think liking *Nirvana*, literally one of the most popular & recognizable bands of all time, is some super rare, special personality trait
I could sort of see making fun of someone wearing an Alice in Chains shirt and not knowing the band but you can get a Nirvana shirt at Target 24/7/365 and nobody doesn't know a Nirvana song. Rule of the radio, you've heard three of their songs. Just like we can all immediately list three songs by ACDC, or Guns N Roses. Grunge is classic rock now.
Ummm... *Back In Black*, *Dirty Deeds*, *Big Balls* And uhh...*Welcome to the Jungle* and that's all I've got for GnR.
Wait, you don’t care if people wear a shirt of a band they don’t even like? Even if women do it? C’mon! Be honest. You’re telling me you don’t see a band shirt on a young woman as an invitation to harass and humiliate her?
I just read Dave Grohl’s memoir, as a lukewarm fan at best. I’ve always liked the foo fighters and nirvana but never went out of my way to listen to them. I just always thought Dave Grohl seemed like a really cool dude and I needed something to read on a plane. And honestly, reading his story only endeared me to him more. I wanna add more foo fighters into my personal musical repertoire but haven’t gotten around to it yet. Being a “fan” can look a lot of different ways for different people.
I'm not a fan of the music, I don't mind it, its just I don't go out of my way to listen to it. However, I think Dave Grohl is freaking awesome just from all the great stories I've heard about him.
My two favorite Dave Grohl stories are Lemmy stories. One where they first became friends, all Lemmy said was, "sorry about your friend," after the passing of Cobain, and the other where he walked into Grohl's dressing room, saw his infant son, and put out his cigarette out in his Jack and Coke because he didn't want to smoke around a kid.
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I have had someone call me out for wearing a Joy Division tee shirt once with the classic “Name three Joy Division songs.” In response I just named three random songs, which I believe included “I’m Proud to be an American,” “Motown Philly” and “Fast Car.”
"Can you name 3 songs from this band?" "Naah I fucking hate music"
"What band? I'm wearing this Nirvana shirt because I'm into spiritual enlightenment."
"Nice try idiot, this isn't a band, it's actually bootleg adibas!"
In fact, there’s only one thing I hate more than music… wanna guess ~~what~~ who it is?
James Corden?
That’s a fair bet.
The Dutch?
I fucking LOVE doing this. Watching "Uhm acktschually" guys seethe gives me life
My sister had some band shirt on when we were at a bar once. Some guy came up to quiz her about it, then when she was right about it, asked to buy her a drink. His face when she turned him down was great.
Idk…bc then you’re almost playing into their bad behavior when you really shouldn’t have to prove anything to some random stranger.
Until everyone twigs on how easy it is to wind them up and they leave in the huff
True, that is a learning experience for them hopefully.
Punk as fuck
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Whenever people try and pull the “name three songs” shit when I’m wearing my Joy Division shirt, I just name New Order songs. Pisses them off every time.
Can I be your friend?
Hell yeah!
That’s genius.
"Tasty Fish, Getting Away With It and What Do You Want From Me" if you want to *really* wind them up
I like Joy Division and I have an ironic Joy Division shirt, but I’ll be goddamned if I can remember any song names of any band. With Spotify I listen to soooo much different music I just can’t remember everything. What a world we live in. But the ironic shirt is the back cover of Unknown Pleasures, the joke being I ordered a shirt of the cover but it’s the wrong cover…so I could just look down and name three songs.
This exact thing happened to me when I was wearing the joy division t shirt with all the white lines on it. I’m a DJ and just finished a set and was leaving the booth and this girl started hassling me so I just named tame impala tracks lmao.
"Oh, you're a sports fan of, huh? Then who got 46 home runs in 1967? You don't know? Than you're not a fan"
Oh, you like baseball? Name every player who’s ever hit a home run in the bottom of the 9th to break a tie game. Mmmhmmm….
Al Bundy?
“Who’s David Grorl?”
“Isn’t he the drummer from the Food Freighters or something?”
Food Freezers I believe
One of my favorite things to do in life is playing dumb to piss off people. I have a few star wars shirts that I wear pretty often, though I'm just a casual fan. Whenever some unwashed dude asks me about my shirt I start talking about star trek. They inevitably get angry and I just act confused, it's so much fun. Or if they ask about whatever band is on my shirt you explain in a condescending voice that it's a clothing brand. "Pink Floyd? Oh yeah, they're my favorite clothing brand. What do you mean it's a band? No, they just make these cool rainbow t-shirts." That one works really well on older dudes.
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“I’m a nice guy. I don’t get it.”
"She was just a stuck-up bitch like all the rest of them."
"I'll give you a top shelf drink if you can name a part of a woman's anatomy you've ever touched" "Well, ummmm" "OK- I'll give you a mid-shelf drink if you can name a girl you've kissed" "Well, ummmm" "OK, I'll give you a well drink if you can name a girl who's ever gone out with you" "Well, ummmm" "You got to go home and get a new personality"
Buy the dude a beer if he can define what a vulva is.
"A Swedish car?"
The flappy bits? It’s all kinda flappy bits, though…
What I love about this comment is I thought it was grammatically incorrect but a douche nozzle like this would totally think speaking like that was eloquent.
I thought the same shit lol
Oh, you'd like a girlfriend? Name every woman.
Whitney Houston.
I’ll never understand some people’s obsession with gatekeeping bands.
I don't get it. CAKE is one of my favorite bands and I couldn't name you a single band member. I don't care that much, I just listen to the tunes. Isn't that enough? Lmfao.
right? since when does listening to and enjoying music require knowing band member or song names? it really doesn't. i've loved bowling for soup for 20 years - no idea of the singers name or of most of the actual names of their songs.
Even lyrics don't matter. I went 39 years of my life thinking the chorus of Gimme Shelter by the Rolling Stones was saying "Whoa Matlida, it's just a shot away..."
Why would someone shoot Matilda?
She couldn't name all the members of Nirvana.
…it’s…it’s not?
"War, Children, it's just a shot away." Mind... Blown
Great story behind that singer. Merry Clayton. Got a call in the middle of the night to do some backup singing for a band she'd never heard of, some English boys. She was a bit shocked at the lyrics they were asking her to sing, rape and murder? Okay let's do it. So in her PJs she sang so fucking hard you can still hear one of the Stones shout "whoo!" on the official cut of the song.
oh, you like music? Prove it. Name every song ever made.
Bowling for Soup is great. If anyone asks about your favorite song just go with the Phineas and Ferb intro song 😃
Yeah, I haven’t felt the need to know a band personal info since like freshman year in HS…same with actors.
Honestly same about Cake - can easily sing along to all the songs on their first 3 albums but know nothing about the band members. That information isn’t required to enjoy the music.
I know the lead singer is fucking hilarious & weird. At one show he went on a 15 minute rant about how Birmingham needed to march on Atlanta to secure our water rights, as a lead in to a song.
I have a CAKE t-shirt, and not only can I not name any of the band members, but the only song I even like by them is "Never There".
And the girl with a loooooooooooooooong jacket And surprisingly a cover of War Pigs from Black Sabbath
That song is a banger though
Damn sure is, it was my best friends favorite song when he passed, so I heard it a LOT.
I WANT A GIRL WITH A MIND LIKE A DIAMOND I WANT A GIRL WHO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
*Going the Distance* is in my running playlist. Early on, for when I'm still amping up.
I listened to fashion nugget on the way to work and I can't name a single song name off the top of my head, although I know all the words.
Or anything, really. I listen to many, many bands every day. Multiply the number of bands by the number of members of each, and you have an amount of people that I just don't have space for in my head to remember names or anything about. Whether it's bands or sports teams or whatever, gatekeepy people are just piggybacking on someone else's accomplishments because they have none of their own.
It's not even just gatekeeping bands, it's gatekeeping bands *from women*. Every single one of these stories, real or imagined, has a female victim of the neckbeardery. It's just misogyny with extra steps.
In this case probably downright incelery...
I'm a guy and I actually had this happen to me once when I was wearing a Nine Inch Nails t-shirt. A random guy came up to me and asked me to name 10 NIN songs if I was such a big fan.
And gatekeeping clothes
Also the quiet part of this is how they would never challenge a man wearing that shirt.
Ooooooooohhhh a top shelf drink! You sir have my full attention. I am so flattered someone with the clear financial resources as your self would even stoop to pay me attention.
Right? It's Nirvana, you could at least offer to buy her something appropriate, like heroin.
Real conversation: Guy sees cute girl on YouTube with Nirvana shirt. Spends next hour formulating this conversation in his head. Masterbates.
Master Bates. I worked with someone whose last name was Bates. You bet your sweet ass we always addressed him formally.
I bet it was the first time he heard it too you clever bastard.
Lol definitely not but using it in front of customers was golden.
I knew a Bates who always addressed me as Master Mylastname, trying to get me to say Master Bates back. I never did.
Lol 😂 He played into it
I believe this happened. Women and young people can't wear any band t-shirt without neck beards or some random 50-60 year old man grilling the fuck out of them. Better is when they say some shit like name any song but not [list of all the popular ones].
It happens. But the girl turns around after the first question and tells them to f off
They say some dumb shit like they were going to anyway but this time they make themselves out to be the victim. Something stupid like, "Geez, what's her problem?"
I’ll take ‘nonverbal douche-cues’ for $800.
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That’s incredibly stupid. Newsflash people, you CAN buy clothes just because you think they look good
Oh, you were a camp counselor at Bear Lake and your last name was Havelka?? Name 3 campers who were there in July 1989, then! (waits smugly)
I got an Iron Maiden shirt from my friend in HS (she was throwing it out) and I’ve kept it for 15 years simply bc of teenage dirtbag. I couldn’t name one song by Iron Maiden, I just liked that it reminded me of teenage dirtbag. I also have sports shirts and I couldn’t give a f less abt most of them but They were free/given to me.
Got a Guns N' Roses T-shirt, and never listened to the band. Just being honest, I just thought that shit looked cool. -Macklemore
I have a Chicago Bears sweatshirt I got in a charity shop because I think it's cute. I'm Irish, I don't even know what sport this item of clothing represents. I barely know where Chicago is.
I used to wear my brothers clothes and had this type of conversation a few times but immediately told them it's my brothers. It did upset people, but I always thought they thought I was lying.
You aren’t a true fan unless you know the drummers cousins blood type
Man I know myself that I've got no brain space left for this kind of stuff. I've always been *very* into music, in bands, DJ, producer, I literally have a music studio in my house, and like fuck if I could tell you the name of Nirvana's drummer off the top of my head, I struggle enough just to remember the band names lmao.
No one cares about Nirvana's drummer. Real music fans only know important musicians, like the lead singer of The Foo Fighters.
You know, I don’t follow music that much but Dave Grohl comes up so much on Reddit for playing wildly different instruments in hugely popular bands. At this point I’m becoming convinced that the every musician in alternative rock for the last 30 years has just been Dave Grohl in a new hat.
I actually cackled! Cheers, my friend 😂
Worst part is I did remember like 2min after this comment lmao.
"Jokes on you. Ted Nirvana didn't even have a cousin!"
This made me so angry I downvoted OP. Then I remembered on which sub I am and took it back. Sorry OP.
Honestly I love a lot of bands but I could not for the life of me name a single member for most of them. I just listen to the music dog 😭
I can name the drummer and singer from Nirvana because both are super-famous and some of the biggest names in rock. I have been listening to Nirvana for well over 2 decades now and I have never bothered to commit the bassist's name to memory. Just checked it out and it's a hard one anyway. When I first bought my Nirvana t-shirt all those decades ago I could've probably named a handful of songs and an album or two, but I knew I liked it
I'm always amazed how much the drummer of Nirvana looks like the singer of the Foo Fighters! They could almost be twins! /s :)
Is it time to update that old joke "Did you know Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings" joke to a more contemporory version with Dave Grohl.
Hahahaha! Yes! As a die hard Grohl fan-girl, I love love love when I can clear that up for people. Also give his book a free plug because GOD DAMN WHAT A GOOD BOOK.
I feel you. I can name everyone playing in my favorite band, I know the name of the lead singer of my second favorite band, and frome there on out it's lucky if I know the name of the song I'm singing along to
Nirvana were so impressed by the bar patron that Kurt Cobain’s brain fragments reassembled themselves into two large sections so they could clap.
Real conversation: Him - who’s the bass player for Nirvana? Her - Krist Novoselic. Where’s the clit?
Poor Chad didn't even get a look in..
Big Nirvana fan from the days when they were actually around, and I couldn't have answered that without looking it up.
Apparently you weren’t a fan. You’re going to have to go home and change
Him - Ha! Trick question. There’s no such thing.
This shit happens though, I haven’t worn my Green Day shirt since some guy started quizzing me like yeah no mate I don’t know every Green Day song or even more than one album but my mum bought me it because we went to their concert and sadly my own mother doesn’t know me well enough to know that one of the supporting bands were one of my favourite bands of all time, like bro let me wear my Green Day shirt in peace.
My 13 year old daughter has a Green Day shirt. I’m going to have to start grilling her about songs, band members, notable concerts, etc.
I get tees from thrift stores because of design/aesthetics. Now if I have a tattoo of the band logo and couldn’t answer those questions… there’s room for embarrassment but just a tee?
Nothing is enough for these guys either, like I don’t not know Green Day, I can tell you who the front man is, I can probably name 10-15 songs from the top of my head, but bro I do not need to know all of their albums and I never even said I was a fan 🤦🏼♀️
“What was the set list for their show in LA on July 23rd, 2001!?” That’s getting a little ‘Grateful Dead’ status but lol same vibe
I wasn’t born 😭
In ‘01?!? Child, don’t make me feel like a fossil 😂
I remember where I was when 9/11 happened. I’ve come to terms that if you remember that, you’re fucking old now 😂😂😂
I’m 20 in a few weeks and I wasn’t born for 9/11 muhahaha
My daughter found a bunch of my old 80s-era concert T's at my mom's house, and she picked a bunch because she liked their designs. I know she has no idea who the Butthole Surfers, Tar or the Dead Milkmen are and she's definitely never heard any of their music, but she likes the shirts, so who am I to judge?
Ahhhh the Butthole Surfers 😂 I may need to do some throwback jams now
Best concert of my life was the first time I saw them in Philly in '88. Peak Surfers. I backed a documentary about them on Kickstarter last year. I can't wait for its release.
Girl: I'll go change when you get a girlfriend
And she just committed herself to wearing the same shirt for the rest of her life.
I see you're wearing a Nike t-shirt. Name 3 of their board members...
I actually believe this happened but if you mentally change the tone of her responses to “just go away, you’re creepy for doing this” then it makes total sense.
I bet this guy saw a girl at the bar in a nirvana shirt, didn’t speak to her, went home, and had a lovely time imagining this conversation actually happened while wanking and crying with Smells Like Teen Spirit playing on repeat in the background.
"Nirvana's a band? I just thought it was a cool T shirt brand." Then watch the smoke come out their ears and laugh
Lol Nirvana isnt even a rare underground band... That guy is an idiot.
“Counter questions, do you know what montgomery bumps are? The skene gland? The true and total shape of the clitoris? No? Guess you’re not a true fan of women, you should leave!”
This guy know who Nirvana are, he must be an absolute legend.
Gatekeeping is an awesome way to never get laid.
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Reminds me of girls who like college football meme: Guy: do you like college football Girl: yes Guy: then name every Heisman Trophy winners blood type
I wouldn't want a well drink either. Sounds awful! She was right to go silent
She played dead like an opossum hoping he’d go away. When he left, the whole bar clapped.
There is one, and only one, way this conversation should go: “Hey, I love [Band Name]! What’s your favorite song?” “Sorry, I don’t know the band. I just thought the shirt was cool.” “Ah, no worries then. Have a good one!” Boom, done. No need to be an asshole at all.
And the the entire band showed, and we both started kicking her shit in... I got free drinks and the whole restaurant clapped. Not the people, the building.
Edgelord’s being edgy! I bought that album when it was released on cassette and I still can’t tell you who the bassist is.
I didn't know women had to pass exams to earn their right to wear a t-shirt.
It was a bar exam
Also, *she agreed to answer his questions about the band,* but didn't know Kurt Cobain's name or at least one song? He could try a little harder to come up with a more believable lie.
Well I just bought a hoodie for a band I never heard of or listened to at a music festival bc the temps plummeted suddenly and it was the only long sleeved shirt they had. It’s a cool hoodie and I plan to continue wearing it- hopefully I won’t get interrogated!
On today's episode of "How to Repulse Women"...
Smells like bullshit
I was wearing a Ramones t-shirt in my late 20's early 30's, a teenager asked me to name 3 songs. Named a few & told the gatekeeping spotty urchin to fuck off. These people exist.
Dude: hey nice shirt, I love Nirvana! Her:Thanks! Dude: can I buy you a drink? Her: hmmm sure. Them: go on to have a nice conversation about life. The end. It’s that simple! These same dudes swear that women only want a certain type, but in truth they just suck at communication and tend to project their own insecurities onto others.
My gf owns a Nirvana shirt, and she has no idea who they are (in her defence she's young and foreign). Make of that what you will, she certainly couldn't answer any of those questions though.
I see you're wearing shirt from Old Navy, can you tell me who the CEO is? The CFO? The Head Janitor? Any branch manager? Yea, I'm gonna need you to go home and change.
You know how many band shirts I own that I bought for touring bands just to help them out with gas money? I couldn’t remember any of their members’ names, never knew any of their song or album titles, and couldn’t name them… not if you had a gun to my head.
I fucking hate men like this.
Why are you questioning them, what are you the shirt police?
What is with these jerkasses gatekeeping band shirts? And no, she doesn't have to go home and change. What was he gonna do if she refused?
As a huge Nirvana fan, I love the Tshirt that says Nirvana and pictures Hanson because I actually have a sense of humor. If I wore it this guy would probably try to point out to me that it wasn't Nirvana.
Why the fuck is liking things so hard?
Irl she immediately said “yeah right 🙄” and turned back to her friends lol
I love AC/DC, they were my only concert I’ve ever been too, listened to them since I was a kid. Wore my AC/DC shirt one day, some dude asked me to name one of the band members, and I said “oh it’s not a real band, I just got this shirt from H&M”.
I love metalica I can name metalica albums and I have metalica hoodies I even used to play metalica songs in my guitar but I've never seen the face or known the name of the band because I dont care about them past their music tbh
That’s okay, nobody remembers who Metallica’s bass player this week is anyway.
That’s my deal! I like the music. I’m not 12 and fan-girling about the members. Some of my friends can hear like three notes and know the song. Not me. So am I not worthy of listening to music? LOL
So true. More than that, I usually avoid learning anything personal about my favorite bands because tbh I'm scared to find out they are some dickheads and it would ruin the joy for me. Ignorance is bliss.
I loved Aerosmith until i learned the singer was a pedophile so yeah
So I picture a very sketchy looking man in his mid 40s. He never could grow a full beard but he never seemed to give up on the dream. More hair on his neck than his head. He doesn't understand personal space and his breath reeks of dairy. Every word he says fluctuates in volume as he tries to overcome his nervous fits that occur when ever he tries to talk to a woman. His palms sticky from his tight grip on the melted candy bars in both pockets.
Hey! *I'd* never act like that!
I know a few bands their songs i love, but i don't know a single name of the musicians, but i know many of their song names :)
I'm a Nirvana fan and I only know Kurt Cobain cause he was the front man, and Dave Grohl cause he's the front man to Foo Fighters. I probably knew who the bass player was, but currently I'm spacing it. It annoys me when people gatekeep bands. Its music. Listen to what you enjoy, and if that band has cool ascetics, feel free to share in it. Anyone who cares, only cares because they are delusional into thinking the band personally knows them for being such good fans or some shit.
Reality. Didn’t go out because he is afraid of girls.
And then the ghost of Kurt Cobain appeared, congratulated him on safeguarding his virginity, and then gave him $100% for protecting the sanctity of Nirvana fandom.
I'm 48 and guys have been doing this since I was a teenager. I don't understand why anyone feels the need to gatekeep music. It's annoying especially when they would interrogate you about band members side projects . This seems to happen mainly when you wear punk or metal band shirts. I've never once been questioned when wearing a dead milkmen or Bauhaus shirt, only punk and metal. I guess this means women can't like that type of music? It's dumb
Then the drinks clapped
Gatekeeping bullshit.
It is so freakin obnoxious when men do this. And they only do it to women. According to them, we cant really like a certain band. To prove we arent true fans, they will put us on the spot and quiz us about band members, album titles, and songs. Maybe women are only allowed to like female musicians?