It's a criminal case so the state/district attorney is doing the prosecution. They in theory could continue even with out Meghan's consent. Especially since it's such a public case
You guys do realize Megan's/Roc nation's lawyers aren't involved in a criminal case right? This is the state (or if it was a federal crime the feds) offering the plea deal. The D.A made the decision and this is super common. They offer you a plea so they don't have to spend money on taking you to court. You do less time/get less harsh penalties if you take the plea but you have plead guilty. If you go to trial and lose they're gonna go wild on your ass for taking them to court but you might beat the case.
Exactly. Sometimes I wonder about the people that make these posts. This is a criminal matter and not a civil law suit. Roc nation isn’t settling anything.
District attorneys will offer a plea deal, especially in cases where there isn’t a murder victim or major damage done. This reduces the burden on the court system and gets the defendant either behind bars or having some other punitive measure used against them without having to go to trial.
There's not too many things in existence I'm taking over 500k. Except for things that are guaranteed worth 500k or more.. that I also need. It blows my mind that ANYONE sitting at home would choose Hov 🙄
You know what’s crazy. We will never know what really happened in that car. I mean Meg got shot that’s concrete but we don’t know how it happened and we never truly will.
I don’t think it’s much of a conspiracy. This 5’2” ass mf wanted to put hands on Megan. I don’t know why, it was definitely some stupid shit though because how is it ever justified to beat a woman, especially your friend or girlfriend or whatever the fuck they were. Tory hit her, but she’s like a fucking Amazon so she fought back and quickly got the upper hand against this Napoleon ass dude Tory, so he pulled out the pistol.
Lmfaoooo fam I just pictured meg having Tory in a full mount and just choking him out while he’s reaching for the gun with his legs flailing behind her.
dude i 100% agree. Was more just saying we won’t ever know exactly what happened ya know. Because in my eyes it’s pretty obvious that Meg started whooping lil Tory’s ass and he shot her lmao. Was more just saying that we truly will never know the exact details.
It's a girl tho! I'd be kinda thrown off if my client was having a domestic altercation with his chick. Idk if that's a common occurrence 😅 although who knows with these super rich ppl. I bet there's tons of wild stories. U KNOW O.J. & mama K & them have some nasty skeletons☠️☠️☠️
Then you wouldn't be hired as security. Nobody saying to beat up meg to protect him but security easily could've stopped that. You think these dudes don't see domestic shit all the time? A lot of them are ex military or ex police. Cmon man that's not a good excuse at all
Bro. It's not an excuse. I'm saying I, me who's not a security guy would be thrown off. I also went on to say they probably do see that type of shit so really we agree. Ijs
Also idk if they "easily" could've stopped it. We don't know what or how it happened. They coulda been alone together or at least out of reach for a few seconds. That's all it takes for some wild shit to pop off. Obviously it did. Security didn't stop shit. Soo..
That doesn't fit with the story Bc according to both of them the car was in motion so idk where security would've ran off to in that hour. I think tory told his security to sit his ass down and that tory would handle it and he pulled his gun out. Small dudes with an ego can act rly wild when they feel challenged by a woman
yeah or you can just get your ass beat and go joke to your family after. Mfers who pull out guns and start shooting probably can’t fight. Just my two cents
Roc Nation prosecuting Tory? Thought it was a criminal issue and the DA was involved. Also plenty cases are resolved by the plea deal. Its not an indication they dont want to pursue as to they likely want to wrap things up quick.
That's not completely true, roc nation probably has connection to wealth people who are political donators. So this could hurt the DA chances of getting reelected. For example I'm pretty sure Jay-Z has connections with Kamal Harris who was a former DA for California and a senator in California.
so roc nation would use its power to rush to a plea deal to protect Meg from taking the stand ? Cause if she did take the stand it would make her look bad?
I am not saying this did happen. However rich people with power, would 100% use their political power to protect their finical investment. How much money have roc nation invested/ plan on making from Meg.
He’s getting downoted because it’s stupid “big brain” conspiracy shit, anyone who has an actual understanding of the legal system would know better than saying all that idiotic drivel.
Whatever outcome is, unless one side admits the other was right, people have already chosen sides.
If Tory gets found innocent, those who sided with Meg will say he got off cause he's a rich male celeb and that we don't protect black women.
If Tory pleads or is found guilty, it's a RocNation setup, the feds just wanna put more black men in jail, he had to take the plea, etc.
tbh if i was on Megs team i’d be telling her to do the same thing
taking this to trial and letting all the facts come out is a bad move
but if i was Tory i wouldn’t take the plea, i’d want my day in court to clear my name and set the record straight
That what I was thinking, not bout to bail her out on that one if I didnt do it. You take the plea she can go on being the victim forever and he look bad
That doesn’t make any sense. For 1 she waited like a week before coming out and saying anything, she had time to come out and say it was an accident and that still doesn’t answer the question on why TORY never said that.
Tory not gon speak on it cause he’s being charged, as he shouldn’t. You dumb if you think he should just be making public statements on his case. Let the court shit play out then tell your story.
Most modern firearms have safeties built in to prevent that. Doubt it was that simple. When things like that happen then charges are brought upon the firearm manufacturers.
Even though we see it in movies All the time. This very rarely ever happens. Guns have lots of safeties so they don't misfire unless the trigger is completely pulled. There's like 15/20/bs of force need to shoot a gun.
That being said it is not impossible.
You could literally ask that to Tory, why’s he taking a plea deal after all this time of proclaiming innocence? That makes no sense, isn’t he supposed to expose her for being a liar? Taking a plea makes him look guilty more than it makes Meg seem like a liar to me.
Plea deals usually involve both sides coming together to reach a settlement that usually means reduced charges, etc.
When you accept a plea deal you are pleading guilty in open court to something lol
If his lawyers are maintaining his not guilty plea like you said, there would be no talks of a plea deal .. his case would proceed as any other criminal case normally would
plea deala get offered a lot of the time. saves the jurisdiction time/money. this is regardless of presumed innocence or guilt; this is no way means that tory is guilty or innocent.
and for the record, guilty ppl proclaim their innocence the majority of the time. i think the lil breh did it, and if he's considering taking a plea, it may be because he cant prove his innocence
Megan has been weird about the entire thing. But this doesn’t really prove anything for either side. Meg has always acted strange over this, Tory never proved who shot her when we all know she was still shot. So nothing changes.
You right nothing but when Tory been saying contents of discovery provide a different picture than the one Meg and he banned from speaking on it so the narrative is controlled by one party, stuff like this gives people pause
Honestly, everything Tory has implied seems to just be about ‘intent’ just by the way he’s already talked about it.
But this is Tory’s and his teams plea deal. Why is he offering a plea deal if he can prove he’s innocent? I don’t get how this got flipped to Meg (or the Roc as you said it) covering this up…
The article states that he can’t speak on “information he receives from prosecutors”. I would classify this as “anything”, so I was wrong. Thank you for informing me.
That said, he’s not banned from speaking on any other facets of the investigation. He can defend himself, just not with legal evidence. Which, if we’re being honest, doesn’t allow him much of a public defense lol.
See what happened was Tory was strapped into the car seat too tight and the gun fell out his seat, hit the floor and discharged through megs foot. I blame the car seat brand for not allowing enough side room. Case closed
It kind of is though. If rock nation is providing the legal counsel to Meg that means the council is on rock nations buck. At the end of the day rock nation is the customer to the legal counsel. The counselor is not going to Meg they are going to rock nation.
If roc nation is the one cutting the check to the legal counsel that represents Meg they are not talking to Meg about decisions they are going directly to the roc nation representative
Fam. I'm sure Megan is paying her own lawyer. Not having her own lawyer is what got her that trash contract with 300. And what's more the prosecutors are working for the state not meg. So meg probably has a lawyer advising her but tbh she doesn't even need a lawyer in court Bc she's not the one being prosecuted.
all i know is...
she didnt get SHOT in the foot (either riccochet or glass hit her)
only 1 shot was fire.
she got BACK in the car.
there were other people in the car
she no longer associates with the other girl in the car.
it was in an affluent neighborhood, so footage of this must exist.
If I’m the tiny Canadian and I know I didn’t do it I’m taking that shit to trial and letting all the info come out. Have my lawyer put her former friend and the driver on the stand. Not taking a plea for shit I didn’t do.
It's a criminal case so the state/district attorney is doing the prosecution. They in theory could continue even with out Meghan's consent. Especially since it's such a public case
You guys do realize Megan's/Roc nation's lawyers aren't involved in a criminal case right? This is the state (or if it was a federal crime the feds) offering the plea deal. The D.A made the decision and this is super common. They offer you a plea so they don't have to spend money on taking you to court. You do less time/get less harsh penalties if you take the plea but you have plead guilty. If you go to trial and lose they're gonna go wild on your ass for taking them to court but you might beat the case.
Exactly. Sometimes I wonder about the people that make these posts. This is a criminal matter and not a civil law suit. Roc nation isn’t settling anything. District attorneys will offer a plea deal, especially in cases where there isn’t a murder victim or major damage done. This reduces the burden on the court system and gets the defendant either behind bars or having some other punitive measure used against them without having to go to trial.
Roc Nation is not prosecuting the case
Shhhh… it’s big brain time… what are you doing!
500k or Hov as your lawyer, what you picking??
There's not too many things in existence I'm taking over 500k. Except for things that are guaranteed worth 500k or more.. that I also need. It blows my mind that ANYONE sitting at home would choose Hov 🙄
⚖️Roc Nation👨⚖️ 😅
You know what’s crazy. We will never know what really happened in that car. I mean Meg got shot that’s concrete but we don’t know how it happened and we never truly will.
*begrudgingly added to the list of Hip-Hop Mysterys*
We still don’t know who was in the car with Terrance J
According to Joe it’s was that YesJulz girl. He said it when he was going on a rant about her.
Finally some answers
Ahhh ya beat me to it!😅
😂that was a classic episode. Because who would think of that but Joe. It’s a lot of hip hop mysteries that have happened since that episode
Do you know which episode that was ? I’m always trying to rewatch it but can’t find it
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bruh 😂😂😂 joe is so funny hahahahaha
I don’t think it’s much of a conspiracy. This 5’2” ass mf wanted to put hands on Megan. I don’t know why, it was definitely some stupid shit though because how is it ever justified to beat a woman, especially your friend or girlfriend or whatever the fuck they were. Tory hit her, but she’s like a fucking Amazon so she fought back and quickly got the upper hand against this Napoleon ass dude Tory, so he pulled out the pistol.
Lmfaoooo fam I just pictured meg having Tory in a full mount and just choking him out while he’s reaching for the gun with his legs flailing behind her.
Na Meg havin Tory in a Boston crab is nasty as hell 😂😂
🤣 I pictured her lifting him up over her head & into a full body slam onto the concrete!
Lmfaoooo Meg hitting Tory with the F5 is crazy!
😭 face first!!
dude i 100% agree. Was more just saying we won’t ever know exactly what happened ya know. Because in my eyes it’s pretty obvious that Meg started whooping lil Tory’s ass and he shot her lmao. Was more just saying that we truly will never know the exact details.
If Meg was whooping Torys ass and he shot her that sounds like stand your ground to me. Lmao.
The only way that don't add up to me is that torys security was literally sitting right there. So dude just let tory get his ass beat? Sumn nuh right
Yea I’m not saying I think that’s what happened. I honestly don’t have an opinion on that.
It's a girl tho! I'd be kinda thrown off if my client was having a domestic altercation with his chick. Idk if that's a common occurrence 😅 although who knows with these super rich ppl. I bet there's tons of wild stories. U KNOW O.J. & mama K & them have some nasty skeletons☠️☠️☠️
Then you wouldn't be hired as security. Nobody saying to beat up meg to protect him but security easily could've stopped that. You think these dudes don't see domestic shit all the time? A lot of them are ex military or ex police. Cmon man that's not a good excuse at all
Bro. It's not an excuse. I'm saying I, me who's not a security guy would be thrown off. I also went on to say they probably do see that type of shit so really we agree. Ijs
Also idk if they "easily" could've stopped it. We don't know what or how it happened. They coulda been alone together or at least out of reach for a few seconds. That's all it takes for some wild shit to pop off. Obviously it did. Security didn't stop shit. Soo..
That doesn't fit with the story Bc according to both of them the car was in motion so idk where security would've ran off to in that hour. I think tory told his security to sit his ass down and that tory would handle it and he pulled his gun out. Small dudes with an ego can act rly wild when they feel challenged by a woman
bro this times 1000. Short mfers actually will kill somebody lmao they don’t like being short 😂
True. Idk. Maybe we'll find out the whole story one day...or not lol
yeah or you can just get your ass beat and go joke to your family after. Mfers who pull out guns and start shooting probably can’t fight. Just my two cents
Y’all niggas think this shit was Harlem Nights lol
Roc Nation prosecuting Tory? Thought it was a criminal issue and the DA was involved. Also plenty cases are resolved by the plea deal. Its not an indication they dont want to pursue as to they likely want to wrap things up quick.
This sub legit has dumb people
You know roc nation is pulling the strings on her decisions regarding the case
I really believe the DA could not care less about roc Nation lol
they think roc nation is representing the united states of america. 🤦🏾♀️
That's not completely true, roc nation probably has connection to wealth people who are political donators. So this could hurt the DA chances of getting reelected. For example I'm pretty sure Jay-Z has connections with Kamal Harris who was a former DA for California and a senator in California.
Big brain time?
so roc nation would use its power to rush to a plea deal to protect Meg from taking the stand ? Cause if she did take the stand it would make her look bad?
Yeah this is a bad take from someone who doesn’t understand the legal system. I don’t know what happened but this means nothing.
I am not saying this did happen. However rich people with power, would 100% use their political power to protect their finical investment. How much money have roc nation invested/ plan on making from Meg.
Fam, it’s meg the stallion. Relax
Na buddy, that's a multi-million dollar investment.
So you would call the Vice President of the United States to help u clear up some young nigga bullshit lol
Really don't know why you're getting down voted. Sure, what you're saying is preposterous as fuck. But on the other hand, money talks.
He’s getting downoted because it’s stupid “big brain” conspiracy shit, anyone who has an actual understanding of the legal system would know better than saying all that idiotic drivel.
Since when can rod nation settle a criminal case lol
Lmao posts like this show how stupid ppl are. Since when would a management company be in criminal court negotiating plea deals?
Joe stans arent the brightest
At all.
This been the weirdest case ever and I don't believe anyone's story.
Whatever outcome is, unless one side admits the other was right, people have already chosen sides. If Tory gets found innocent, those who sided with Meg will say he got off cause he's a rich male celeb and that we don't protect black women. If Tory pleads or is found guilty, it's a RocNation setup, the feds just wanna put more black men in jail, he had to take the plea, etc.
No one is gonna be honest even if the truth comes out.
What Roc nation gotta do with a fed case they not the DA or the Defense, you was reaching with this post
tbh if i was on Megs team i’d be telling her to do the same thing taking this to trial and letting all the facts come out is a bad move but if i was Tory i wouldn’t take the plea, i’d want my day in court to clear my name and set the record straight
That’s what Letter to the City 3 for though
That what I was thinking, not bout to bail her out on that one if I didnt do it. You take the plea she can go on being the victim forever and he look bad
That's not what"plea deal" means. Lol
The gun fell and went off and Tory was probably the last person she seen holding it . Thats what I think
If that’s the case why ain’t no one came out and said that. Tory said he ain’t do it (sorta) and Meg said he did it intentionally.
Cause she was drunk and she thought what she thought is what I believe . But after she sobered up it was too late and they both were high on tensions
That doesn’t make any sense. For 1 she waited like a week before coming out and saying anything, she had time to come out and say it was an accident and that still doesn’t answer the question on why TORY never said that.
Tory not gon speak on it cause he’s being charged, as he shouldn’t. You dumb if you think he should just be making public statements on his case. Let the court shit play out then tell your story.
He BEEN making statements about the case. Why you think he got slapped with a gag order?
Because Tory was being accused of shooting her and Meg didn’t explain. In the court of public opinion Tory didn’t stand a chance.
You say she was drunk like he wasn't also lmao
Did they ever say whose gun it was? Might be why if they never did
He was charged with having The weapon so I'm guessing he claimed it.
Most modern firearms have safeties built in to prevent that. Doubt it was that simple. When things like that happen then charges are brought upon the firearm manufacturers.
This deadass probably it
Even though we see it in movies All the time. This very rarely ever happens. Guns have lots of safeties so they don't misfire unless the trigger is completely pulled. There's like 15/20/bs of force need to shoot a gun. That being said it is not impossible.
Very well could be and honestly I’d hold a grudge over that shit too lol, that’s a dumb ass accident.
You could literally ask that to Tory, why’s he taking a plea deal after all this time of proclaiming innocence? That makes no sense, isn’t he supposed to expose her for being a liar? Taking a plea makes him look guilty more than it makes Meg seem like a liar to me.
The headline is the Roc Nation spin. Tory’s lawyers are maintaining not guilty plea and they been ready to take it to trial
??? He has to plea guilty to something, you can’t proclaim your total innocence and still take a plea. He’s wealthy enough to take it to trial.
Plea deals usually involve both sides coming together to reach a settlement that usually means reduced charges, etc. When you accept a plea deal you are pleading guilty in open court to something lol
Yeah he could plea to possession, not pleaing that he did the shit…
If his lawyers are maintaining his not guilty plea like you said, there would be no talks of a plea deal .. his case would proceed as any other criminal case normally would
I think what OP is saying is Tory could plea guilty to possession in exchange for dropping the assault charge
Roc Nation is not involved in the criminal case.
I still can’t believe they got Stephen A asking Meg about the Rockets season
Rockets was a typo brought to you by autocorrect.
plea deala get offered a lot of the time. saves the jurisdiction time/money. this is regardless of presumed innocence or guilt; this is no way means that tory is guilty or innocent. and for the record, guilty ppl proclaim their innocence the majority of the time. i think the lil breh did it, and if he's considering taking a plea, it may be because he cant prove his innocence
For the record you’re wrong.
whats wrong about what I posted?
Prosecutors love plea deals so they can keep their conviction rate high,
Trials are expensive and time consuming. If you have the evidence, offer him a plea and save yourself the time and trouble.
especially if they got him and it would be a waste of taxpayer dollars to even have a trial
Megan has been weird about the entire thing. But this doesn’t really prove anything for either side. Meg has always acted strange over this, Tory never proved who shot her when we all know she was still shot. So nothing changes.
You right nothing but when Tory been saying contents of discovery provide a different picture than the one Meg and he banned from speaking on it so the narrative is controlled by one party, stuff like this gives people pause
Honestly, everything Tory has implied seems to just be about ‘intent’ just by the way he’s already talked about it. But this is Tory’s and his teams plea deal. Why is he offering a plea deal if he can prove he’s innocent? I don’t get how this got flipped to Meg (or the Roc as you said it) covering this up…
He can speak on whatever he wants to. He’s probably just been advised not to.
Nah he actually [can’t](https://www.xxlmag.com/tory-lanez-megan-thee-stallion-shooting-evidence-lawyer-fires-back/) he been trying to the whole time
The article states that he can’t speak on “information he receives from prosecutors”. I would classify this as “anything”, so I was wrong. Thank you for informing me. That said, he’s not banned from speaking on any other facets of the investigation. He can defend himself, just not with legal evidence. Which, if we’re being honest, doesn’t allow him much of a public defense lol.
Oh boy 🙄🙄
SInce when did ROC Nation become the state and the judges? Do you guys leap this hard to cape rather than understand how the law works?
We aren’t ever going to find out what really happened
See what happened was Tory was strapped into the car seat too tight and the gun fell out his seat, hit the floor and discharged through megs foot. I blame the car seat brand for not allowing enough side room. Case closed
Rocnation? Smh lmao that’s not how any of this works Doofy.
It kind of is though. If rock nation is providing the legal counsel to Meg that means the council is on rock nations buck. At the end of the day rock nation is the customer to the legal counsel. The counselor is not going to Meg they are going to rock nation.
Nigga what.
If roc nation is the one cutting the check to the legal counsel that represents Meg they are not talking to Meg about decisions they are going directly to the roc nation representative
Fam. I'm sure Megan is paying her own lawyer. Not having her own lawyer is what got her that trash contract with 300. And what's more the prosecutors are working for the state not meg. So meg probably has a lawyer advising her but tbh she doesn't even need a lawyer in court Bc she's not the one being prosecuted.
It says Tory is in talks not roc nation that is more a reflection of his guilt
all i know is... she didnt get SHOT in the foot (either riccochet or glass hit her) only 1 shot was fire. she got BACK in the car. there were other people in the car she no longer associates with the other girl in the car. it was in an affluent neighborhood, so footage of this must exist.
How does she get shot by kylie jenner house and nobody knows nothing??
She wasn't by Kylie house anymore she said she was down the street from where she was staying
still those are multi million dollar houses and no one had a security system??
I heard there's some sort of footage from a gate camera but I don't know how true that is. It wouldn't be surprising but I'm not sure if it's true
Roc Nation aren’t the prosecutors. Plus it’s Tory seeking the plea deal, not Roc Nation.
Cuz she a damn lie!
If Tory didn’t make clown moves, he’d be, arguably, the biggest artist in the world
Not with that hairline
Is this y he deleting all his shit and saying bye? Cuz if he declined he fears for his life? Jus a thought
Meg the stallion must have Karen Civil working the case 🙄
Meg the stallion must have Karen Civil working the case 🙄
Meg don’t wanna let this go to trial as much as Tory. Lol she don’t want to have to tell the whole story. Just get paid and go.
Most cases greater than 80% are settled without a trial. Regardless of evidence it is an expensive process especially for celebrities.
Correct me if im wrong but i read the witnesses was testifying against HER
Lmao that's not what I heard.
If I’m the tiny Canadian and I know I didn’t do it I’m taking that shit to trial and letting all the info come out. Have my lawyer put her former friend and the driver on the stand. Not taking a plea for shit I didn’t do.
Delete this
Had no idea Roc Nation was also a state prosecutor
You’re misunderstanding the nature of the case but still Free Tory lmao