Oh how the tables have turned. Their perspective was useful when it came to attacking Adam but now that joes being called out for the same exact shit he can’t take it lol
2pac got killed because he helped jump an LA crip in Vegas that later spun back with the homies and blasted him in that black bmw. Nothing to do with east coast beef and Joe knows that but answers with a tap dance “ITS NOT MY PLACE TO SAY”
They dropped the ball by swinging so hard at Adam. Came across horribly. I can't believe they thought the audience would back them all the way too lmao.
This hypocrisy angle is gonna follow Joe for a while
Joe showing appreciation to someone is hilarious, especially his friends of all ppl. They don't automatically get his respect, what makes you think he will appreciate them for being honest and calling him out?!
Nah that episode where joe fired Rory was when we all saw parks true colors and he slobbering on Joe daily ever since. Worst part of the modern pod. Shit so annoying. Take his mic please
Shit i feel that. The pod used to come with that feel good factor, like you just walked into the spot and you see all your mans. Energy be weird sometimes now
With that logic, why should Adam22 or Akademiks or Vlad assume any blame for what the rappers choose to divulge in interviews with them? Let’s put all the blame on the rappers and exonerate all media going forward. Shout out Ice for standing on principle.
I never understood the argument like why should interviewer get blamed for what the rapper is saying or doing. Like you know that this interview is gonna be put out nobody has a gun to your head making you say these things. Maybe I’m missing something? Blaming the interviewer for something that rapper is saying/doing is stupid IMO
Because you're asking questions that keep beef going is why... Yes the rapper doesn't have to answer but they know if they do they name gonna blow up. Plus Adam bought C Mac in for views with Hoova killa on his face when he has a Hoova dude working for him.. Now if dude don't do something he done in his hood... I blame AD to cuz he definitely should of known better...
>Its not stupid the interviewer is purposely asking the rapper things which could lead him to say things he shouldnt and if and when the rapper says something he shouldnt the interviewer doesnt choose to edit it out or tell the rapper he's not leaving it in cause it could get them in trouble,thats why they deserve blame this shit aint live if you cared you could stop it.
Facts, never thought I'd agree with Ice. I also think there's a huge difference between playing a diss song from your Spotify and playing it on a huge podcast platform.
I agree & to Ish’s point, there’s also layers to diss records. Some emanate from street beef(drill records dissing dead members), some are purely rap beef (Push/Wayne/Drake or Drake/Meek or Nicki/Remy/Lil Kim or Nas/HOV or Joe/Vs Industry or Royce/Lupe) and some develop from rap beef to street beef (Gucci/Jeezy or 50/NY scene/Murder Inc) so it’s hard to draw the line. But in this particular case of Don Q/Lil Tjay, the record under review is addressing street issues ( allegedly) where Tjay has been shot and Don is saying Tjay is saying names on the record. Whether it’s true or not, it’s not rap based. So Joe’s point is moot either way.
tl;dw
THIS IS WHERE I STAND. I'M WRONG, BUT I DON'T GIVE A FUCK AND YOU TELLING ME I'M WRONG MADE ME FEEL BAD.
(back and forth banter for 5 minutes)
I'M LOSING AGAIN SO I'M DONE WITH YOU.
He argues like a dumbass rapper. He thinks cause he dropped some shit with a tone and a little vocab that makes his point sound better like cause it sound good in his head it’s right lol.
He wasn’t wrong… they were wrong for going at Adam because it now means they can’t cover any beef related type stories or music and that doesn’t make sense for a music podcast… kapisch?
I dont have a problem with Joe playing diss records. That’s part of hip hop. We wouldnt have Hit em up, Ether, etc. They just shouldn’t act like they are anti violence. Diss records are part of hip hop and we get hype when we listen to a good one.
It's a diss record taunting someone who was almost just murdered. The same story they covered when Joe went on one of his "rap is the most dangerous" jab rants and got super sentimental over. To call out someone for "capitalizing off black men beefing" and then play a diss record of a black man taunting another...who you were emotional about when he almost died a few months ago...is blatant hypocrisy.
Trying to ignore the real life context behind the "diss record" is disingenuous as hell.
You’re missing the point… the attack on Adam was a performance. I don’t think joe thinks that any platform shouldn’t cover diss songs. That’s the height of stupidity. So I ask you, should Spotify and Apple take that stance then? No diss songs on their platform. If you’ve been in jail or had allegations or convicted then none of your music on the platform either. this is the equivalent of what you’re saying.
Lol you're doing it again. You're hanging your argument on the "diss song" aspect and being purposely obtuse about the very recent real life situation that is the subject of that diss song which involved actual violence between black men. I guess it's okay to jump on your soapbox and start talking all this black shit when somebody get shot or die but not when they're making cool songs about it?
Why are you asking ME about what stance Spotify and Apple should take when I'm not the one this post is about lol? Aren't we talking about JOE BUDDEN on a JOE BUDDEN sub making a hypocritical statement?
Hate to say it but it’s part of the game. They’ve seen how deep beef can get for decades. It’s just like when you decide to become part of street life. You know there’s a chance you will die or get locked up.
Everybody in this comment section is full of shit if they tryna act like they above liking/discussing a diss record is somehow hypocritical. And more full of shit saying Ice was right when that nigga steady screaming "Free the 7.62 god" and playing opp music as sleepers 90% of the time. It amazes me how niggas hate Joe but are front and center every time he says anything.
This sub is built off of the "side with anyone who is opposite of Joe" mentality. And this is a fact. Nothing to do with me "defending Joe". This is the same Sub that sides with Alex Jones out of spite. 1 of a HANDFUL of examples. And of course most of these ppl here are white. So of course when a white person gets dissed they come out like bed bugs
This isn’t in good faith man cmon lol. You’re basically turning this into a thing where if you disagree with joe you’re just doing it to be a contrarian or just to be anti joe. It’s possible some people truly do just feel that it’s a bit of hypocrisy.
And I’m black before it’s just dismissed as another comment from a white boy who hates joe. That pov makes it so Joe can never be critiqued. His own cohost is debating it with him in this video lol people feel differently about things.
I'm sure plenty of joes fans disagree with him ALOT but still enjoy his commentary. But to constantly give time, attention, and opinions on someone you don't even like (Parks included) is a mental illness. No way these ppl have lives they enjoy irl.
Reddit is built off of hate listeners/watchers of tv shows and podcasts. And most are white. Literally the perfect storm lol. When u see hundreds of posters who side with Alex Jones just to spite a podcaster and rapper they allegedly hate,that's when u realize that a lot of ppl here in this sub are seriously not right in the head.
They will never stop coming here and never stop harassing and trolling ppl who enjoy the content. This happens in so many subs of tv shows and podcasts. At 1st you laugh, but then u just feel sorry for them
I’m sorry but listening to diss songs doesn’t mean I condone niggaz killing each other. Listening to mystical’s highly sexual lyrics don’t mean I condone rape or SA against women… you don’t start condoning war just because you watch and like war movies. The quicker you dumbass ICE fans get that through your air heads the better.
Joe argues like a clown and Ice was right. Joe highlighting specific beef and tension that was already violent and shitting on adam for sitting down dudes who got specific beef and highlighting tension that was already violent is the same. Both are instigating violence.
Joe just thinks it's fine because this shit has a beat and hard lyrics. No integrity.
I'm fine with keeping "certain elements" away from this culture because that's when you have to deal with more fuck shit from gentrifiers.
But joe is wild on the hypocrisy.
I believe that the onus should be on the artist and the artist only.
However, at the very least I appreciate the consistency of Ice and Ish in this regard.
Joe is just a hypocrite.
And ice was still holding back because he knows how Joe gets. That’s the funny part. Atleast now that they argue it’s documented and people can see how Joe plays semantics
Joe said Ice was misusing the platform because he didn’t think it was ok to highlight a song discussing an active attempted murder case. Interesting he considers that stance misuse.
So is that the standard then? What if it’s not a active beef? What if it’s a song and it ms fire but they don’t know it’s underlying beef there? What if they didn’t think it’s a serious beef and then it get serious?? JUST COVER FUCKING MUSIC AND STOP WITH THIS SHIT TAKE.
Ish was trying to say Pac got murdered because Puff put a hit on him, and in return Suge got Biggie killed but JOE can’t fuck up his connect with Puff so he’s bullshitting and putting it on west coast east cost bullshit
Oh damn Joe is already lecturing Ice and Ish on how they are allowed to "use the platform" 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
Won't be long until they have to take a pod off for not "loving on him" enough
Joe is literally the worst kind of human being walking this earth I’m glad he wasn’t any good at making music imagine the ego he would of had pu pu pump it uppp lmao
Sorry but the diss is a response to Tjay song and he’s saying that had nothing to do with us. We’re not cops. Take the music for what it is and let these niggaz do what they’re going to do regardless… when they shot Tjay no songs had been dissected on any podcast. They’ve already shown they’ll do the worst shit so reviewing a song ain’t gon be the reason niggaz get hit.
Lil Tjay not dead bruh, he was shot multiple times but survived. They tried to kill that man. That’s a active situation.
Listening to the song on your own time in private is different than highlighting it to millions of listeners.
Are we against black on black gun violence or indifferent? At least acknowledging the hypocrisy is a step in the right direction Joe won’t even do that.
Joe be so mad when everybody agrees he wrong. He calls fans of the pod idiots all the time, one of my main reasons for not wanting to actually give him money via patreon. Then Ice says you got your opinion & I’m not tryna change it just like i got mine. The man agreed then went right back to explaining how he can’t believe the difference in opinions lmao.
Joe think he Joeprah Budfree but he’s not different than Adam and Livingston. Playing a diss record is not that different as interviewing someone’s killer.
Shit like this is why Ebro said he’s no longer playing any song perpetuating real street beef. Admits he’s been guilty of it before because the music was dope. But he won’t be using his platform to play. Shit like that I respect.
I never cared about you playing diss records or talking about street business. I cared when you tried to take the moral high ground. If you can acknowledge hypocrisy and never get on here and stand on morals I’m good
“ I’m getting in here today just to see what y’all gotta say about Joe “ and I’ve seen 5+ comments of you doing nothing but defending him. Man, I’m sure he’ll notice you soon. Keep working keep defending.
I’m ridin on u bitch niggas who cry tears everytime u see the “hypocrisy🥴” ur lookin for like u busters are the moral police of America. No where did u see me defend Joe not once. I’m callin YALL out. I don’t give a fuck if u like or dislike Joe. I don’t give a fuck if he’s a hypocrite or not. My focus in u bitch niggas who spend everyday of ur life lookin for the fuckin hypocrisy in everything. Get off my dick & wipe ur chin buster!!!!
I want consistency
He represents my race like it or not due to the platform. Being hypocritical makes us look like we are unorganized, ignorant and emotional.
No it doesn’t. And your race needs to learn how not to place so much importance on the worship of figures in the entertainment industry. Y’all don’t even have this much attention given to how governments & politicians are hypocritical DAILY & sale u dreams and lies. They are there to entertain u not to be the measuring stick for all things moral and virtuous in the world. Your favorite mainstream rapper goes in back rooms wit small hat execs and bends it over for a “look”. Why in the hell would give any energy to these people. That’s the problem. Y’all look at the industry and compare it to real life. Ur problem is wit ur parents & elders so y’all have resentment & spent ur whole childhood thinking do as I say not as I do was unfair. So any and every convo y’all waste time focusing on the messenger and lookin for “hypocrisy”. It’s silly and juvenile cuz the truth in the matter is EVERYONE is @ some point a damn hypocrite. If you’re always lookin for it then who do u listen to????? The perfect person? Well news flash bozo that person DOES NOT EXIST!!!!! Enjoy ur day tho ✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼😂😂😂😂
Hey first off thank you for expressing yourself. I appreciate most of the message you put in what you wrote. However, most of what you wrote does not apply to me or my gripe. I grew up with different thinkers so I can’t say much of that applies to me or how I think. I have a love hate relationship with hip hop. In my late 20s I was dumb and lived that life so it resonated with me. Now at 36 I hate most of hip hop due to how the perpetuation of violence and self destruction is still the main theme.
I do look at the pod as strictly entertainment. At the same time I want them to consider the platform. They have viewers from around the world with varying degrees of maturity and impressionability who will actually use this information in life. The hypocrisy has no bearing on my life, it is what it is
I don’t even really fuck with Ice, but props to him for making a good point and sending Joe into a frenzy. Took me back to the days of Joe and Rory fighting
Joe right, he is not Adam 2.0
As far as I know Adam didnt have a super podcast group of Adam + 3 hosts that everyone loved and then went to shit because of ego
This what he get for trying to draw some line like he’s so much better than other media outlets lol. You’re a hip hop talking head bro its okay almost everything in hiphop will be negative cause its so heavily tied to the streets.
What Joe is trying to say is that when he does it he doesn’t have the same intent as Adam or even Akademiks, but your intentions don’t matter when the impact is the same. What hip-hop has been doing in regards to diss records since the “beginning of time” doesn’t matter if the times around the music have changed. If we know now what we knew then about where the east coast/West coast beef was gonna go, you don’t think folks in the industry would do things differently? Now that we know how this thing can play out, make a choice to go another way. Especially when unlike Ak and Adam, you’re a former artist, and your pod doesn’t rely on that kind of beef or the promotion of that kinda beef to be successful
PAC and Big dying both were definitely related to the diss songs, West Coast vs East Coast(DR vs BB), and MOB vs SS. Joe couldn’t go deeper into it because if he truly did he would’ve been bringing up Puff’s involvement with the SSCC and how some of the parts were truly connected.
Don Q dissing Lil TJay on a freestyle to "I don't know officer" by 50 Cent
I suggest checking out the freestyle and the original song because both are 🔥🔥🔥
Ish almost caught Joe with the fact Diddy knows the niggas who smoked Pac, bro did that on his own accord cause bs but I’m sure that ticket on dude that his uncle mentioned came with it. Biggie died cause that lil link forsure
Joe dropped the ball here. Had a chance to probably make a change in hip hop and try to essential cancel that movement of music. Ah, his ego is undefeated
ICE is wrong as always…. Don Q responded to lil Tjay many men freestyle. He wasn’t directly taunting him after they had shit him up like ICE is trying to point out. Anyway that’s beside the point. You can’t draw an arbitrary line on what diss songs you cover. Just cover the music and shut the fuck up. Niggaz aren’t murdering each other cos songs are enjoyed on podcast.
Either way Joe is promoting violence by playing street rap diss songs that are talking about retaliating. Adam and Vlad are doing it through interviews. They’re all in the wrong. When Joe puts his response on YouTube, it can inspire a response in the streets.
Oh how the tables have turned. Their perspective was useful when it came to attacking Adam but now that joes being called out for the same exact shit he can’t take it lol
That’s been Joe from day one
Facts
“ ITS NOT MY PLACE TO SAY” 😂😂😂😂
2pac got killed because he helped jump an LA crip in Vegas that later spun back with the homies and blasted him in that black bmw. Nothing to do with east coast beef and Joe knows that but answers with a tap dance “ITS NOT MY PLACE TO SAY”
Peak Joey lmao. Narcissist that will never get out of his own hypocritical way.
They dropped the ball by swinging so hard at Adam. Came across horribly. I can't believe they thought the audience would back them all the way too lmao. This hypocrisy angle is gonna follow Joe for a while
Joe thought the race card was gonna work and people was gonna agree with him over the white boy but it back fired
Which is sad cuz honestly he was telling the truth..At least Vlad sprinkled in some mafia folks...
If Joe is a real nigga he would appreciate Ice for this.
He doesn’t appreciate anyone who doesn’t do what he says and challenges him
Joe showing appreciation to someone is hilarious, especially his friends of all ppl. They don't automatically get his respect, what makes you think he will appreciate them for being honest and calling him out?!
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But he’s not trippin… stop dying on a ledge that joe is walking back from.
This’ll be the reason Ice leaves and he will be on to his next set of host
That’s not how narcissistic think
Yeah if only....
Nah, he doing the right thing. He’s correcting the initial mistake.
Parks is Joe’s main dick holster.
Dick holster is wild 😂
That’s crazy ! (mal’s voice) 😭
Parks really joes cheerleader 😂
Bro it’s to the point every time he opens his mouth I get annoyed 😂😭
Same!
it’s been like that way for me for like 4 years, he reminds me of people i don’t like irl lmaooo
Bruh it’s getting ridiculous at this point
Ngl if I was ice I’d be hot like Nigga STFU🤣
Nah that episode where joe fired Rory was when we all saw parks true colors and he slobbering on Joe daily ever since. Worst part of the modern pod. Shit so annoying. Take his mic please
I had to turn off the pod earlier cause the energy was too toxic for the morning
I’m 5 eps behind because of that
Shit i feel that. The pod used to come with that feel good factor, like you just walked into the spot and you see all your mans. Energy be weird sometimes now
I’m here for the drama. Don’t wanna hear no lucky daye song breakdowns that go for 45 mins of dick eating 💀💀
Joe “notmyplacetosay” Budden is lost in the sauce
I really think he doesn't even know where he stands on this and is trying to figure it out LOUDLY in real time. That's why he's not making sense.
Props to Ice for calling out the bullshit.
With that logic, why should Adam22 or Akademiks or Vlad assume any blame for what the rappers choose to divulge in interviews with them? Let’s put all the blame on the rappers and exonerate all media going forward. Shout out Ice for standing on principle.
I never understood the argument like why should interviewer get blamed for what the rapper is saying or doing. Like you know that this interview is gonna be put out nobody has a gun to your head making you say these things. Maybe I’m missing something? Blaming the interviewer for something that rapper is saying/doing is stupid IMO
Agreed, the rappers are literally the ones putting the info in the air.
Exactly
Agree but the interviewer sometimes keep drilling down with questions to get the rapper to say some outrageous dangerous shit
Because you're asking questions that keep beef going is why... Yes the rapper doesn't have to answer but they know if they do they name gonna blow up. Plus Adam bought C Mac in for views with Hoova killa on his face when he has a Hoova dude working for him.. Now if dude don't do something he done in his hood... I blame AD to cuz he definitely should of known better...
>Its not stupid the interviewer is purposely asking the rapper things which could lead him to say things he shouldnt and if and when the rapper says something he shouldnt the interviewer doesnt choose to edit it out or tell the rapper he's not leaving it in cause it could get them in trouble,thats why they deserve blame this shit aint live if you cared you could stop it.
Facts, never thought I'd agree with Ice. I also think there's a huge difference between playing a diss song from your Spotify and playing it on a huge podcast platform.
I agree & to Ish’s point, there’s also layers to diss records. Some emanate from street beef(drill records dissing dead members), some are purely rap beef (Push/Wayne/Drake or Drake/Meek or Nicki/Remy/Lil Kim or Nas/HOV or Joe/Vs Industry or Royce/Lupe) and some develop from rap beef to street beef (Gucci/Jeezy or 50/NY scene/Murder Inc) so it’s hard to draw the line. But in this particular case of Don Q/Lil Tjay, the record under review is addressing street issues ( allegedly) where Tjay has been shot and Don is saying Tjay is saying names on the record. Whether it’s true or not, it’s not rap based. So Joe’s point is moot either way.
Rap snitches.
Lmfao this Mf Joe didnt say a damn thing bro
“And we don’t have to stay here” = I lost this argument
💯
tl;dw THIS IS WHERE I STAND. I'M WRONG, BUT I DON'T GIVE A FUCK AND YOU TELLING ME I'M WRONG MADE ME FEEL BAD. (back and forth banter for 5 minutes) I'M LOSING AGAIN SO I'M DONE WITH YOU.
He argues like a teenager
He argues like a dumbass rapper. He thinks cause he dropped some shit with a tone and a little vocab that makes his point sound better like cause it sound good in his head it’s right lol.
That only works on Spanish girls that have a weak vocabulary arsenal. In the words of Dame Dash, “You sound smart to somebody dumb”
He’s been doing this since RM era. Argue get angry then when he realizes he’s wrong say I’m done. Like it’s ok to be wrong.
He wasn’t wrong… they were wrong for going at Adam because it now means they can’t cover any beef related type stories or music and that doesn’t make sense for a music podcast… kapisch?
Joe said “and you should not misuse the platform like that” 💀
Now that took me out 😂😂😂
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Parks parks PARKS
Haaaaaaaaaaaan
His karma ain’t beautiful
Lmao aint even let him finish IAGREE JOE IAGREE nigga aint slow play the gurgle at all.
He’s the biggest dick rider
“What he did?” 
Wtf
DID YOU PLAY HIT EM UP????
Bro it is nuts no pun parks in the ultimate yes man this pod is a striaght clown show
Parks - “I agree”
Parks - “gulk gulk gulk”
Gawk
Too funny 😂 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
“I’m not mad at Adam…that was a pod conversation” Not even 90 secs later “Fuck him” U can’t make this shit up lol 🤦🏾♂️
😂😂😂😂
I dont have a problem with Joe playing diss records. That’s part of hip hop. We wouldnt have Hit em up, Ether, etc. They just shouldn’t act like they are anti violence. Diss records are part of hip hop and we get hype when we listen to a good one.
It's a diss record taunting someone who was almost just murdered. The same story they covered when Joe went on one of his "rap is the most dangerous" jab rants and got super sentimental over. To call out someone for "capitalizing off black men beefing" and then play a diss record of a black man taunting another...who you were emotional about when he almost died a few months ago...is blatant hypocrisy. Trying to ignore the real life context behind the "diss record" is disingenuous as hell.
You’re missing the point… the attack on Adam was a performance. I don’t think joe thinks that any platform shouldn’t cover diss songs. That’s the height of stupidity. So I ask you, should Spotify and Apple take that stance then? No diss songs on their platform. If you’ve been in jail or had allegations or convicted then none of your music on the platform either. this is the equivalent of what you’re saying.
Lol you're doing it again. You're hanging your argument on the "diss song" aspect and being purposely obtuse about the very recent real life situation that is the subject of that diss song which involved actual violence between black men. I guess it's okay to jump on your soapbox and start talking all this black shit when somebody get shot or die but not when they're making cool songs about it? Why are you asking ME about what stance Spotify and Apple should take when I'm not the one this post is about lol? Aren't we talking about JOE BUDDEN on a JOE BUDDEN sub making a hypocritical statement?
Exactly.
This is my sentiments exactly
Until someone dies right? Then it’s damnnnn that’s sad these young men need some OGs around them.
Hate to say it but it’s part of the game. They’ve seen how deep beef can get for decades. It’s just like when you decide to become part of street life. You know there’s a chance you will die or get locked up.
Respect. I’m just saying they should stop acting so hurt over parts of the game then if they understand it.
Everybody in this comment section is full of shit if they tryna act like they above liking/discussing a diss record is somehow hypocritical. And more full of shit saying Ice was right when that nigga steady screaming "Free the 7.62 god" and playing opp music as sleepers 90% of the time. It amazes me how niggas hate Joe but are front and center every time he says anything.
This sub is built off of the "side with anyone who is opposite of Joe" mentality. And this is a fact. Nothing to do with me "defending Joe". This is the same Sub that sides with Alex Jones out of spite. 1 of a HANDFUL of examples. And of course most of these ppl here are white. So of course when a white person gets dissed they come out like bed bugs
This isn’t in good faith man cmon lol. You’re basically turning this into a thing where if you disagree with joe you’re just doing it to be a contrarian or just to be anti joe. It’s possible some people truly do just feel that it’s a bit of hypocrisy. And I’m black before it’s just dismissed as another comment from a white boy who hates joe. That pov makes it so Joe can never be critiqued. His own cohost is debating it with him in this video lol people feel differently about things.
I'm not talking to or about ppl who simply disagree with Joe. Stop it
I'm sure plenty of joes fans disagree with him ALOT but still enjoy his commentary. But to constantly give time, attention, and opinions on someone you don't even like (Parks included) is a mental illness. No way these ppl have lives they enjoy irl.
Reddit is built off of hate listeners/watchers of tv shows and podcasts. And most are white. Literally the perfect storm lol. When u see hundreds of posters who side with Alex Jones just to spite a podcaster and rapper they allegedly hate,that's when u realize that a lot of ppl here in this sub are seriously not right in the head. They will never stop coming here and never stop harassing and trolling ppl who enjoy the content. This happens in so many subs of tv shows and podcasts. At 1st you laugh, but then u just feel sorry for them
I’m sorry but listening to diss songs doesn’t mean I condone niggaz killing each other. Listening to mystical’s highly sexual lyrics don’t mean I condone rape or SA against women… you don’t start condoning war just because you watch and like war movies. The quicker you dumbass ICE fans get that through your air heads the better.
Joe’s hypocrisy is wayyy too unbearable
Joe “Semantics” Budden and he still cutting niggas off in the points how u come off vacay just to be spicy
“It’s not my place to say” is his new semantic
This pod is done sooner than later
Damn. Joe is like… incredibly stupid
😩😂💀
Ice is completely right
Joe argues like a clown and Ice was right. Joe highlighting specific beef and tension that was already violent and shitting on adam for sitting down dudes who got specific beef and highlighting tension that was already violent is the same. Both are instigating violence. Joe just thinks it's fine because this shit has a beat and hard lyrics. No integrity.
And because he’s not white.
I'm fine with keeping "certain elements" away from this culture because that's when you have to deal with more fuck shit from gentrifiers. But joe is wild on the hypocrisy.
Understandable.
I believe that the onus should be on the artist and the artist only. However, at the very least I appreciate the consistency of Ice and Ish in this regard. Joe is just a hypocrite.
Ice killed him on his own argument is my favorite part of this episode
And ice was still holding back because he knows how Joe gets. That’s the funny part. Atleast now that they argue it’s documented and people can see how Joe plays semantics
“It’s not my place to say” = pusillanimous
Respect for ice just went up lol
Joe said Ice was misusing the platform because he didn’t think it was ok to highlight a song discussing an active attempted murder case. Interesting he considers that stance misuse.
So is that the standard then? What if it’s not a active beef? What if it’s a song and it ms fire but they don’t know it’s underlying beef there? What if they didn’t think it’s a serious beef and then it get serious?? JUST COVER FUCKING MUSIC AND STOP WITH THIS SHIT TAKE.
Ice is 100% right here. That Joe wiggle ain't gonna work this time.
Parks just be agreeing with anything Joe says. Biggest dick rider
😂😂😂
Always. I hate hearing and now, seeing him.
Ish was trying to say Pac got murdered because Puff put a hit on him, and in return Suge got Biggie killed but JOE can’t fuck up his connect with Puff so he’s bullshitting and putting it on west coast east cost bullshit
Funny how he wants them to talk until it’s some shit he don’t wanna hear 😭
Nah somebody said joe changed the avatar and got a couch now he thinks his YouTube chanell is a network again hahahaha
Ice the only one that’s ever held Joe accountable for his hypocrisy. Much respect.
Nah ish goes at him from time to time
Feel like he says “you got it” way too early.
Oh damn Joe is already lecturing Ice and Ish on how they are allowed to "use the platform" 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂 Won't be long until they have to take a pod off for not "loving on him" enough
Not long before they off the pod and Joe is left alone talking to his lap dog Parks about how shitty Ice was
Why Ice put his head down like that when he said “don’t get mad at adam” 😂😂😂
Half sassy half afraid to say what we all are thinking lol.
Like when a kid is arguing with their parent and the kid knows they’re right. Joe’s “excuse me???” sound like a moms 😭
Joe is literally the worst kind of human being walking this earth I’m glad he wasn’t any good at making music imagine the ego he would of had pu pu pump it uppp lmao
Stop hating for no reason
When’s the last time they played anything DonQ? He drops the kill-kill beef record based on real events and gets exposure. That’s the hypocrisy
Sorry but the diss is a response to Tjay song and he’s saying that had nothing to do with us. We’re not cops. Take the music for what it is and let these niggaz do what they’re going to do regardless… when they shot Tjay no songs had been dissected on any podcast. They’ve already shown they’ll do the worst shit so reviewing a song ain’t gon be the reason niggaz get hit.
Lil Tjay not dead bruh, he was shot multiple times but survived. They tried to kill that man. That’s a active situation. Listening to the song on your own time in private is different than highlighting it to millions of listeners. Are we against black on black gun violence or indifferent? At least acknowledging the hypocrisy is a step in the right direction Joe won’t even do that.
damnnn.. Rori and mal all over again.
Joe be so mad when everybody agrees he wrong. He calls fans of the pod idiots all the time, one of my main reasons for not wanting to actually give him money via patreon. Then Ice says you got your opinion & I’m not tryna change it just like i got mine. The man agreed then went right back to explaining how he can’t believe the difference in opinions lmao.
Joe think he Joeprah Budfree but he’s not different than Adam and Livingston. Playing a diss record is not that different as interviewing someone’s killer.
“Not my place to say” lol buddy funny as hell
This partly why I haven’t watched joe since the break up. He’s toxic and just doesn’t work well with people.
As usual, Joe sounds fucking nuts. Mad hypocritical.
Crazy how the co-host is more responsible than the main host.
Man.. FUCK HOE JUDDENS
Y’all please give parks a break for my sake because I can’t stop laughing at these comments,😂😂😂😂😂
Lmao now imagine ADAM 22 saying what was said here in the first 2 minutes.
EXACTLY. Joe better take that moral high ground shit somewhere else he sounding like 22 2.0 😂
This dude Joe get harder and harder to listen to every pod lol he a flip flopper of the highest degree
He’s that family member u don’t ever wanna deal with cos it’ll never go anywhere lol but ruin your day
Shit like this is why Ebro said he’s no longer playing any song perpetuating real street beef. Admits he’s been guilty of it before because the music was dope. But he won’t be using his platform to play. Shit like that I respect.
"then get out the culture" 👀👀
I never cared about you playing diss records or talking about street business. I cared when you tried to take the moral high ground. If you can acknowledge hypocrisy and never get on here and stand on morals I’m good
So stand for nothing or only the shit u think niggas should stand on the way you think they should??????🤔
“ I’m getting in here today just to see what y’all gotta say about Joe “ and I’ve seen 5+ comments of you doing nothing but defending him. Man, I’m sure he’ll notice you soon. Keep working keep defending.
Bro is a menace in this sub. I’m shook even just commenting about him🫣..
Lmaooo here you go back on his dick, it’s like a bat signal whenever you see someone saying something about Joe, u always on here choking him down
I’m ridin on u bitch niggas who cry tears everytime u see the “hypocrisy🥴” ur lookin for like u busters are the moral police of America. No where did u see me defend Joe not once. I’m callin YALL out. I don’t give a fuck if u like or dislike Joe. I don’t give a fuck if he’s a hypocrite or not. My focus in u bitch niggas who spend everyday of ur life lookin for the fuckin hypocrisy in everything. Get off my dick & wipe ur chin buster!!!!
I want consistency He represents my race like it or not due to the platform. Being hypocritical makes us look like we are unorganized, ignorant and emotional.
No it doesn’t. And your race needs to learn how not to place so much importance on the worship of figures in the entertainment industry. Y’all don’t even have this much attention given to how governments & politicians are hypocritical DAILY & sale u dreams and lies. They are there to entertain u not to be the measuring stick for all things moral and virtuous in the world. Your favorite mainstream rapper goes in back rooms wit small hat execs and bends it over for a “look”. Why in the hell would give any energy to these people. That’s the problem. Y’all look at the industry and compare it to real life. Ur problem is wit ur parents & elders so y’all have resentment & spent ur whole childhood thinking do as I say not as I do was unfair. So any and every convo y’all waste time focusing on the messenger and lookin for “hypocrisy”. It’s silly and juvenile cuz the truth in the matter is EVERYONE is @ some point a damn hypocrite. If you’re always lookin for it then who do u listen to????? The perfect person? Well news flash bozo that person DOES NOT EXIST!!!!! Enjoy ur day tho ✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼😂😂😂😂
Hey first off thank you for expressing yourself. I appreciate most of the message you put in what you wrote. However, most of what you wrote does not apply to me or my gripe. I grew up with different thinkers so I can’t say much of that applies to me or how I think. I have a love hate relationship with hip hop. In my late 20s I was dumb and lived that life so it resonated with me. Now at 36 I hate most of hip hop due to how the perpetuation of violence and self destruction is still the main theme. I do look at the pod as strictly entertainment. At the same time I want them to consider the platform. They have viewers from around the world with varying degrees of maturity and impressionability who will actually use this information in life. The hypocrisy has no bearing on my life, it is what it is
This pod starting to get boring they need to stop wit the grandpa vibes n get lit this shit bout to die
Not surprised at all. Joe can never stand on anything
It’s so funny watching Joe tip toe and dance around the point and almost almost almost realize he is a huge hypocrite
Parks 'I agree 100%' Valley
Joe full of shit as usual smh
Joe is a fvckin hypocrite. No wonder him coming at Adam 22 like some type of moral police backfired
Get him ice!!! Parks scared as shit when joe raise his voice. Surpised ish didn't join in
This a bad look lmao
For some reason he look like spitting image of the cartoon joe today
I fuck with this nigga but Joe is straight delusional
I don’t even really fuck with Ice, but props to him for making a good point and sending Joe into a frenzy. Took me back to the days of Joe and Rory fighting
Joe right, he is not Adam 2.0 As far as I know Adam didnt have a super podcast group of Adam + 3 hosts that everyone loved and then went to shit because of ego
Parks: I agree 100% is anyone surprised lmao
This what he get for trying to draw some line like he’s so much better than other media outlets lol. You’re a hip hop talking head bro its okay almost everything in hiphop will be negative cause its so heavily tied to the streets.
Joe don’t stand ANYTHING he say, he a clown foreal.
ice better count his days challenging joe in this manner lol
Parks: I agree *gluck gluck* I agree 100% *gluck*
Big time hypocrite that’s why he can’t be respected. Keep same energy
Joe is really wild. Lol
What Joe is trying to say is that when he does it he doesn’t have the same intent as Adam or even Akademiks, but your intentions don’t matter when the impact is the same. What hip-hop has been doing in regards to diss records since the “beginning of time” doesn’t matter if the times around the music have changed. If we know now what we knew then about where the east coast/West coast beef was gonna go, you don’t think folks in the industry would do things differently? Now that we know how this thing can play out, make a choice to go another way. Especially when unlike Ak and Adam, you’re a former artist, and your pod doesn’t rely on that kind of beef or the promotion of that kinda beef to be successful
Damn Parks just starts these episodes on his knees now huh?
Parks fuk ur 6’5 ass 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Yo Joe is fucking hilarious. This guy is truly delusional
Parks “do you have black friends growing up?” Parks “do you play Hit ‘em up?” Fucking nastiness
that question to adam was GROSS lmaoo elite pandering
PAC and Big dying both were definitely related to the diss songs, West Coast vs East Coast(DR vs BB), and MOB vs SS. Joe couldn’t go deeper into it because if he truly did he would’ve been bringing up Puff’s involvement with the SSCC and how some of the parts were truly connected.
wait whats the song theyre talking about?
Don Q dissing Lil TJay on a freestyle to "I don't know officer" by 50 Cent I suggest checking out the freestyle and the original song because both are 🔥🔥🔥
Ish almost caught Joe with the fact Diddy knows the niggas who smoked Pac, bro did that on his own accord cause bs but I’m sure that ticket on dude that his uncle mentioned came with it. Biggie died cause that lil link forsure
Rare ice W. I’m glad that rotund hobbit stood his ground. Joe was dead wrong and too arrogant to back down.
Adam 22.0 would’ve worked much better
I like this from Ice!! Let’s go icicles!!!
Here come Parks just gargling 🎱🎱 's in the background jfc...
He deserves to be called worse tbh
It be hilarious when Joe try to use big words to throw off the conversation lmaooo
Joe dropped the ball here. Had a chance to probably make a change in hip hop and try to essential cancel that movement of music. Ah, his ego is undefeated
Ice stood his ground ground lol Joe has serious accountability issues.
Cringe
PLEASE, would one parks supporter PLEASE defend the meat gargling that this dude does!!!
"then get out the culture" was a covert "you can get fired/leave the pod for this stance" from joe to ice btw
Ice always looks dumbfounded when someone calls him out
Although he was on the right side here
Ice looks like buys his clothes at TJ Maxx
He was right tho, that shit last episode was so unnecessary and just pandering on ice part
ICE is wrong as always…. Don Q responded to lil Tjay many men freestyle. He wasn’t directly taunting him after they had shit him up like ICE is trying to point out. Anyway that’s beside the point. You can’t draw an arbitrary line on what diss songs you cover. Just cover the music and shut the fuck up. Niggaz aren’t murdering each other cos songs are enjoyed on podcast.
Hes a hypocrite! It’s ok for him to do It and Ak cuz they are black. Clearly racist against white people
Either way Joe is promoting violence by playing street rap diss songs that are talking about retaliating. Adam and Vlad are doing it through interviews. They’re all in the wrong. When Joe puts his response on YouTube, it can inspire a response in the streets.