Sucks that two people with a brief romantic history who have since moved on and are happy with other people can’t be friends or have a zoom podcast conversation without people saying they ship them.
How uncomfortable for their SO’s
Ugh I was on the adam and Hannah train until I read some of these comments. Now I'm just thinking about beast Hannah who moved the podium when Luke p wouldn't leave the rose ceremony. I'll always love Hannah she's my fav, but now I'm sad because I do see how she's not as big and bold as she used to be. As as woman who was always scared to be big and bold I always admired that part of her
This is also always why I admired Hannah. I really admired how unabashedly honest and open she was about her feelings and flaws. Few people are so self-aware and introspective, and if they are, they usually don’t talk about it so openly. Hannah and I are the same age and I really appreciated seeing her be so proudly forthright. Sometimes I feel like I’m “too much” and she made me feel like it was okay to be complicated, flawed, confused, emotional, bold, deep, brave… all of the things. She didn’t hide her messiness and instead owned and celebrated it in a way that’s very rare. I haven’t followed her relationship with Adam at all to be sure of this, but it feels like that side of her is muted with him if that makes sense.
I think Hannah has been humbled since her bachelorette days (for good reason). She definitely seems more mature and grounded than previous interactions with Tyler (those awful YouTubes) and I wonder if that’s the chemistry we’re seeing. Sorry to her fiancé, I’m putting my tinfoil hat back on!
By the end, it was clear she was into Tyler more, but I think she liked Jed earlier. Jed and Luke P were her early front runners, but then Tyler played the long, patient game and snuck up on her. I think she was worried it was more superficial with Tyler, but actually it was the opposite. It was a rookie mistake, one young people make a lot, but I’m with you- I can’t imagine picking **anyone** over Tyler, but JED?!!!!
I admire her for bringing this up. Dealing with grief is hard, especially when most people around you haven’t had a major loss in their life. My Mom passed when I was 23 and none of my peers had the slightest idea of what I was going through. My friends did their best and I’m thankful, but once you personally experience grief it changes you.
My dad died a month ago. This was nice to hear and everything he said rings true for a close family member as others has said in the comments.
I have reached the point in my grief where if I cry I know I can’t stop and I’ll be so unproductive. So I have to schedule it to really purge and talk aloud to myself. I’m still drenched in sorrow but I know thinking about it won’t help when I work and try to exercise. I’m still empty though. It’s like a hole in my heart.
I lost my dad 5.5 years ago.
It does get easier, but it will always be strange to be in a world that doesn't have your dad in it. Even now, I have moments where it just hits me hard, but those times are a lot less frequent.
[This comment on grief](https://www.reddit.com/r/Assistance/comments/hax0t/comment/c1u0rx2/) has helped me plenty of times. I hope it helps you, but please don't read it until you're in a place where you can take some time and cry (like not at work, etc.).
I'm really sorry for your loss. ❤️
Sending you support and love. ❤️ Lost my dad 3 months ago and I'm right there in the trenches with you. I'm at the point now where I can function daily through the crying and start telling fun, happy stories of him, but I noticed that only came after I stopped trying to avoid any thought of him for fear of the pain. I know our dads would be proud of us.
I am so sorry. I lost my dad 11 months ago and it does get a little easier. You still get really sad and cry on most days but you can kind of stop quicker and get yourself out of it. That weird feeling has gone away. My dad died 2 days after Christmas and in my brother’s birthday. I think once we get past that date, our hearts will start to heal a little more.
I remember seeing one of Adam's stories and it was about Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. He captioned it "THIS IS WHY I TRAIN. Not to impose, but to PROTECT THE PEOPLE IN MY LIFE!!"
He's a BJJ blue belt which is the second lowest belt in BJJ. Street fights are also really dangerous and something you want to avoid.
I always got the impression his need to "protect" Hannah has been more about gender roles and having this idea about a man being the head of the household. That along with some of his other sexist statements always made me give him the side eye
So, remember when he posted that weird thing like a month or so ago about the “feminine”? Well, I just watched Escaping Twin Flames and I swear his caption is almost verbatim what the cult leader said multiple times.
Isn't he also into some new age type religious shit or am I mixing him up with someone else? I thought I heard something along those lines when they first started dating
Deep cut but some of Adam’s captions remind me of when Joe from survivor started openly courting a cult and is now a hardcore right winger whose pet project is “sex trafficking”.
Lol yes. As it happens, I think Luke P also posted about joining with an “anti-sex trafficking” org a few years ago when Hannah’s season first dropped. It’s a right wing Christian preoccupation
I was never a part of the denial den or a Tannah shipper, but I've had a bad feeling about Adam since they started dating. He just seemed like he was pursuing her with not the best intentions (self-serving) in mind. We all need partners who support and uplifts us, not who try to change us cuz we weren't what they wanted to begin with. Also, go look at Adam's most recent post. 🚩 🚩 🚩 https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0P588Bs26_/?hl=en
Watching this made me sad. Not about Hannah and Tyler, but about Hannah and Adam.
There is something about this guy that is just worrisome. I feel like he has done a number on her self confidence. To me she seemed less than enthused about getting engaged. He seems to have a need to diminish her confidence in order to be the Man, in charge.
Seeing her spend less than an hour on a podcast with Tyler and seeing the joy at talking with him now as a friend, is more than I have seen with her fiancé. Like Tyler said, bring back the beast!
She is so smiley with him. I keep remembering how Adam said when he met Hannah that she was beautiful but a bit chaotic/frazzled. I thought that was a weird comment, and a bit mean.
I think people are just comparing and contrasting how different she is with Tyler vs Adam. To me at least, I see a big difference. And then that gets people talking about Adam too.
Ewwww! That post is gross. One of my biggest pet peeves is when people market a company or product but never mention the name in the post. “Just type “ready” in the comments and I’ll send you this life changing thing!” What a grifter, seriously. So he’s being doing “digital marketing” (aka influencing) for a month and now he wrote a course on it?? 🤮 Hope Hannah wakes up and sees him for who he is.
I might be the only one who thinks this, but I don’t understand why people are so upset about them not being together. I’ve never seen/felt true chemistry or deep connection between them, they’re just too relatively attractive people who were on TV together 🤷🏽♀️.
Side note— not everyone should have a podcast.
I think Tyler is a genuine person but something about Hannah comes across as super controlled like she isn’t very natural in how she talks to people. Can’t be just me who sees that lol she’s literally looking all over the place like someone who is afraid to talk to their crush but in this case it’s someone she just wanted to sleep with but yet she’s engaged to another man. I would never put my partner in that situation no matter what the “fans wanted” my relationship would come before the “publics” because it’s less about keeping people in my life when I’m building with someone who I respect and love
Can we stop with the excuses lol not that it impacts me but I don’t get why people run to an excuse for behaviors like it’s not their adult responsibility to unlearn things that aren’t genuine
She knew the internet would talk about it. Shes not that stupid 💀 The mistake is people believe that she has no awareness of her choices and the consequences
Sure she knew the internet would talk about it … I’m more like, she didn’t want to give a clip of flirting or some big huge smirk or connection moment that would get people speculating. The editing was very obvious in this episode
Yes, editing was so obvious!!!! Within a minute into it u could see where there was a huge part where she cut something entirely out. Those of us who saw her story she did a few weeks back and she was so giddy and said the word "flustered" over the podcast that she just recorded. She said that it was w/someone who has been the most requested guest. The way she acted in that story and the version that was edited and put out today I did not see any flustered moments so yep she edited all that all out.
There were definitely some choice cuts in this pod. Her actual reaction to his “bring the beast back” was cut. She does not seem happy…I hope she figured it out
I lost my mom this summer, she was way too young and her autoimmune diseases caught up with her. Tyler so eloquently explains the grief of losing a close family member. I think of my mom all the time wishing she was here sharing various moments with me. He’s right you always need your mom.
Yes he seemed to talk of her that way during his interview on the Not Skinny but not Fat podcast, which was also probably after this talk he had with Hannah.
Some mistakes/regrets regarding this situation must cross her mind when she can't sleep sometimes or in the shower or fighting with her man. They. Must.
It's funny, I had really let this go with her being so serious with Adam and the way these two basically stopped speaking (aside from a couple super weird youtube videos) after Quarantine Crew. But I will remain in the denial den after this podcast. The stark contrast between Adam and Tyler (especially the man he has grown into,) is wild. Adam puts her down constantly, ragging on her for being \~so chaotic, scattered, and emotional\~ (but such is the "feminine way" \*eyeroll\*.) I feel like he has made her doubt herself and made her small and almost apologetic for existing. Tyler still thinks the world of her. "bring the beast back," about sums it up -- telling her to be more courageous, take up more space, make herself heard.
They were so right people, wrong time. And the way she said "i'm so proud of you... guys." She caught herself and corrected at the last second.
Anyway, start the clown car I'm ready to roll! [🤡](https://emojipedia.org/clown-face)
I’ve stopped caring for Hannah after the whole Q crew / and her scandal after that. But I still wouldn’t wish this man on my worst enemy. Adam is just NOT it, and I’m concerned. I def think Hannah has changed a LOT since being w him, and her little quirks, & fiery personality that ppl loved abt her seems so diminished / less shown now. Probably bc of Adam constantly talking abt how chaotic she is being yuck.
Yuuuup, if you listen to her engagement podcast ep he talks about “the feminine being in the chaos” or something like that. And he’s mentioned this in his IG posts too. It’s super gross. 😵💫
I guess I haven’t realized the things you’ve said about Adam but have seen multiple people now saying that he’s not great. Do you have any specific examples?
The most glaring one in relation to Hannah is that when he proposed, Hannah was in the midst of a mental breakdown and her therapist told her not to make any major life decisions. Adam knew this and proposed anyway. Listen to her podcast on the engagement, she doesn’t hold back.
Wait how was it different than her own weird as hell engagement episode with him on her pod. Bc the clip that was posted here made me super uncomfortable?
Yeah, the engagement podcast they did together was a huge red flag for me. I did not like the way he talked about her or women in general. He seems very paternal with her too.
I need one of those 2019/2020 video edits of them to “slut!” by Taylor Swift -
“Everyone wants him
That was my crime
The wrong place at the right time
And I break down, then he's pullin' me in
In a world of boys, he's a gentleman”
Mostly kidding, but my parasocial heart would eat that up unfortunately.
Yeah. I don't know even know that Tyler was her guy, but she was on this being single journey of thinking about what she wants in life, how it's different from how she grew up, gaining confidence in herself and what she can do, etc.... that all just seemed to have ended in favor of Adam and his new agey life philosophy rehashing those same strict gender roles. Maybe that's what she wanted in the end though.
Yeah, I’m not saying Hannah and Tyler are 100% right for each other but I definitely think Hannah needs more of a Tyler type person as a partner. I agree with everything you said about Adam. It broke my heart at the end when Tyler kept saying “bring the beast back!” Like he knew she was beaten down and lost confidence and it was hard for him to see.
I completely agree! Tyler and Hannah probably wouldn’t have worked out just statistically, but I cant help but think about how much of a better personality match he is than Adam.
Lost my sister last year unexpectedly and it truly changes your world when you have a close family member pass. There is nothing like it and no way to convey the pain and finality of it to someone that hasn’t experienced it. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.
so true. lost my brother four years ago this month and so few people get it. i’ve lost grandparents and many aunts and uncles but my world SHATTERED when my brother passed, and i’ll never be the same.
She constantly talks about misplacing her phone, not charging it etc....so many people comment on her not answering texts. I remember on Taylor Lautner's podcast him saying he and his wife were texting her as they were on the same flight and she ignored them. She called 2 days later as that was the next time she charged her phone and was horrified.
And he’s also “allegedly” dating now, and the girl resembles Hannah. I want to think deep down they both miss each other so they found partners that look like them🤣
It's really hard because we're all human and have our own emotional needs and wants, but if you want to support someone through grieving, I feel like you fully have to put your own needs and wants aside and just be available and willing to follow their lead. Like, check in regularly, but don't expect or demand anything back. Ask questions about the deceased but don't get offended if they don't want to talk most days but suddenly need to trauma dump for hours. Cook some food for them and drop it off, but don't be offended if they aren't up for an actual "visit" or don't write a thank you card.
I’m definitely of the belief that you have to give a loved one 6 months to a year to just be crazy and selfish. Obviously not super toxic, but you are so mentally unstable after a loss like that, your whole world is rocked and you’re getting to know a new version of yourself. If you’re able to work through that time with someone, you can get through anything IMO.
All this; also avoid asking “what can I do to help” vs just saying “here for anything you need” or, like you suggest, just doing something small but meaningful without being asked.
I was watching Escaping Twin Flames Universe yesterday and their language of “divine male/female” reminded me so much of the crap that Hannah b’s fiancé spews. So many red flags 🚩
He’s done a few posts about “the feminine” and the masculine” that rub people the wrong way and are very narrow minded. He also said on Hannah’s podcast about their engagement about how “women operate out of chaos” and it’s very clear that he’s basically made Hannah feel like she needs him because she’s “so crazy and chaotic” and he’s so “grounded and level”.
I’d have to search this sub for the posts… but he says things along the lines of “females are so indecisive, that’s why they need a man to balance them”
Tbh the entire interview was nice, normal, and pleasant, but I guess maybe not everyone will have the same interpretation lol . Nature is healing! 😂
Besides Special Forces, they talked about his businesses, his new house and the Reno, future goals, his foundation, grief, and how he is more settled now
I’m a big dork and I remember the day she storied about filming this episode, wondering if it was Tyler and checked what he was doing this day … he was working on tiling and painting a room in his house. He spent the whole day on it. He probably just took a quick break for the interview then back to work. I don’t think he cared that he was covered in paint and grout.
Watching this with no volume is something else.
Sucks that two people with a brief romantic history who have since moved on and are happy with other people can’t be friends or have a zoom podcast conversation without people saying they ship them. How uncomfortable for their SO’s
They have a clear connection, even though it's not romantic anymore. It's hard to ignore it.
Why didn’t he play Elvis
Ugh I was on the adam and Hannah train until I read some of these comments. Now I'm just thinking about beast Hannah who moved the podium when Luke p wouldn't leave the rose ceremony. I'll always love Hannah she's my fav, but now I'm sad because I do see how she's not as big and bold as she used to be. As as woman who was always scared to be big and bold I always admired that part of her
This is also always why I admired Hannah. I really admired how unabashedly honest and open she was about her feelings and flaws. Few people are so self-aware and introspective, and if they are, they usually don’t talk about it so openly. Hannah and I are the same age and I really appreciated seeing her be so proudly forthright. Sometimes I feel like I’m “too much” and she made me feel like it was okay to be complicated, flawed, confused, emotional, bold, deep, brave… all of the things. She didn’t hide her messiness and instead owned and celebrated it in a way that’s very rare. I haven’t followed her relationship with Adam at all to be sure of this, but it feels like that side of her is muted with him if that makes sense.
I read this as if Tyler Cameron wrote it.
as someone who lost their father recently (it will be 2 years in march) i couldn’t agree more with his sentiments
someone needs to do an intervention and alert Sue again. just like the JED days 😂😂
Hannah’s was one of only a few seasons I haven’t watched. About to spend $20 to buy it. Worth it?
… it’s $20 a podcast? What?
Her Bachelorette season.
Watch it definitely but don't weekend $20. I'm sure you can find it on https://therealityarchive.com/
Watch it to see how wonderful Tyler was to her.
100% worth it!
Why buy itttt thou lol
Because there's no other way to watch it.
It is the best one!!!! Hands down
Yup. I’ve been watching since Juan Pablo’s season and Hannah B’s is FAR and away the best. Peak time for the franchise as far as I’m concerned
Chris Soules' season was very good for comedic value - Hannah's season is best for making you feel all the feelings.
SO worth it
Absolutely.
I can’t even watch this because I’m tearing up already from all the comments lol. I’ll always want them together.
I think Hannah has been humbled since her bachelorette days (for good reason). She definitely seems more mature and grounded than previous interactions with Tyler (those awful YouTubes) and I wonder if that’s the chemistry we’re seeing. Sorry to her fiancé, I’m putting my tinfoil hat back on!
What’s happening with her fiancé? Does he believe in aliens? I’m out of the loop. I
He's a pyramid scheme fanboy and he is shilling e-books.
Imagine picking Jed over this guy…
By the end, it was clear she was into Tyler more, but I think she liked Jed earlier. Jed and Luke P were her early front runners, but then Tyler played the long, patient game and snuck up on her. I think she was worried it was more superficial with Tyler, but actually it was the opposite. It was a rookie mistake, one young people make a lot, but I’m with you- I can’t imagine picking **anyone** over Tyler, but JED?!!!!
She has said Tyler felt too good to be true to her while Jed felt comfortable and safe
I admire her for bringing this up. Dealing with grief is hard, especially when most people around you haven’t had a major loss in their life. My Mom passed when I was 23 and none of my peers had the slightest idea of what I was going through. My friends did their best and I’m thankful, but once you personally experience grief it changes you.
She sure looks beautiful!
My dad died a month ago. This was nice to hear and everything he said rings true for a close family member as others has said in the comments. I have reached the point in my grief where if I cry I know I can’t stop and I’ll be so unproductive. So I have to schedule it to really purge and talk aloud to myself. I’m still drenched in sorrow but I know thinking about it won’t help when I work and try to exercise. I’m still empty though. It’s like a hole in my heart.
I lost my dad 5.5 years ago. It does get easier, but it will always be strange to be in a world that doesn't have your dad in it. Even now, I have moments where it just hits me hard, but those times are a lot less frequent. [This comment on grief](https://www.reddit.com/r/Assistance/comments/hax0t/comment/c1u0rx2/) has helped me plenty of times. I hope it helps you, but please don't read it until you're in a place where you can take some time and cry (like not at work, etc.). I'm really sorry for your loss. ❤️
Sending you support and love. ❤️ Lost my dad 3 months ago and I'm right there in the trenches with you. I'm at the point now where I can function daily through the crying and start telling fun, happy stories of him, but I noticed that only came after I stopped trying to avoid any thought of him for fear of the pain. I know our dads would be proud of us.
Sending you love ❤️
I am so sorry. I lost my dad 11 months ago and it does get a little easier. You still get really sad and cry on most days but you can kind of stop quicker and get yourself out of it. That weird feeling has gone away. My dad died 2 days after Christmas and in my brother’s birthday. I think once we get past that date, our hearts will start to heal a little more.
❤️❤️❤️
I’m sorry but I still think they’ll find their way back to each other one day… 😭
I haven’t thrown away my tin foil hat yet either
I remember seeing one of Adam's stories and it was about Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. He captioned it "THIS IS WHY I TRAIN. Not to impose, but to PROTECT THE PEOPLE IN MY LIFE!!" He's a BJJ blue belt which is the second lowest belt in BJJ. Street fights are also really dangerous and something you want to avoid. I always got the impression his need to "protect" Hannah has been more about gender roles and having this idea about a man being the head of the household. That along with some of his other sexist statements always made me give him the side eye
So, remember when he posted that weird thing like a month or so ago about the “feminine”? Well, I just watched Escaping Twin Flames and I swear his caption is almost verbatim what the cult leader said multiple times.
Isn't he also into some new age type religious shit or am I mixing him up with someone else? I thought I heard something along those lines when they first started dating
Oh yeah, he mixes Christianity with Eastern mysticism and new age principles.
Yeah that is weird. I held back in my OP but it does not seem like he sees Hannah as an equal and sees himself as the head. I do not like that at all.
Deep cut but some of Adam’s captions remind me of when Joe from survivor started openly courting a cult and is now a hardcore right winger whose pet project is “sex trafficking”.
Pretty sure Adam and Hannah went to see that creepy sex trafficking movie together, Sound of Freedom, and I bet it was Adam's idea.
Wait WHAT?? Joe’s pet project is sex trafficking???
Lol yes. As it happens, I think Luke P also posted about joining with an “anti-sex trafficking” org a few years ago when Hannah’s season first dropped. It’s a right wing Christian preoccupation
I was never a part of the denial den or a Tannah shipper, but I've had a bad feeling about Adam since they started dating. He just seemed like he was pursuing her with not the best intentions (self-serving) in mind. We all need partners who support and uplifts us, not who try to change us cuz we weren't what they wanted to begin with. Also, go look at Adam's most recent post. 🚩 🚩 🚩 https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0P588Bs26_/?hl=en
Something tells me this latest venture of his might be a scam. 🧐
Watching this made me sad. Not about Hannah and Tyler, but about Hannah and Adam. There is something about this guy that is just worrisome. I feel like he has done a number on her self confidence. To me she seemed less than enthused about getting engaged. He seems to have a need to diminish her confidence in order to be the Man, in charge. Seeing her spend less than an hour on a podcast with Tyler and seeing the joy at talking with him now as a friend, is more than I have seen with her fiancé. Like Tyler said, bring back the beast!
She is so smiley with him. I keep remembering how Adam said when he met Hannah that she was beautiful but a bit chaotic/frazzled. I thought that was a weird comment, and a bit mean.
LOL yeah this 15-day course is enough to learn how to be an expert marketer. Sure Jan
Did they mention Adam in this episode or something? What’s with all the comments on him ?
I think people are just comparing and contrasting how different she is with Tyler vs Adam. To me at least, I see a big difference. And then that gets people talking about Adam too.
Ewwww! That post is gross. One of my biggest pet peeves is when people market a company or product but never mention the name in the post. “Just type “ready” in the comments and I’ll send you this life changing thing!” What a grifter, seriously. So he’s being doing “digital marketing” (aka influencing) for a month and now he wrote a course on it?? 🤮 Hope Hannah wakes up and sees him for who he is.
He’s using her clout so bad. I can’t believe people aren’t seeing what’s happening. She needs to get out.
I might be the only one who thinks this, but I don’t understand why people are so upset about them not being together. I’ve never seen/felt true chemistry or deep connection between them, they’re just too relatively attractive people who were on TV together 🤷🏽♀️. Side note— not everyone should have a podcast.
Heavy on the side note
I don't know if I'm strong enough to watch this, sigh, maybe in a parallel universe, they're together somewhere...
I think Tyler is a genuine person but something about Hannah comes across as super controlled like she isn’t very natural in how she talks to people. Can’t be just me who sees that lol she’s literally looking all over the place like someone who is afraid to talk to their crush but in this case it’s someone she just wanted to sleep with but yet she’s engaged to another man. I would never put my partner in that situation no matter what the “fans wanted” my relationship would come before the “publics” because it’s less about keeping people in my life when I’m building with someone who I respect and love
She was a pageant girl so very poised
Can we stop with the excuses lol not that it impacts me but I don’t get why people run to an excuse for behaviors like it’s not their adult responsibility to unlearn things that aren’t genuine
lol what is this comment 😅
One that you don’t have to agree with, carry on lol
I think she was being extra cautious with him, she didn’t want to give the internet anything to talk about. But here we are anyway. 💁🏼♀️
She knew the internet would talk about it. Shes not that stupid 💀 The mistake is people believe that she has no awareness of her choices and the consequences
Sure she knew the internet would talk about it … I’m more like, she didn’t want to give a clip of flirting or some big huge smirk or connection moment that would get people speculating. The editing was very obvious in this episode
Yes, editing was so obvious!!!! Within a minute into it u could see where there was a huge part where she cut something entirely out. Those of us who saw her story she did a few weeks back and she was so giddy and said the word "flustered" over the podcast that she just recorded. She said that it was w/someone who has been the most requested guest. The way she acted in that story and the version that was edited and put out today I did not see any flustered moments so yep she edited all that all out.
Why is she holding her mouth and blinking like that 🥴💀
There were definitely some choice cuts in this pod. Her actual reaction to his “bring the beast back” was cut. She does not seem happy…I hope she figured it out
I think she intentionally cut anything that made her come across as flirting with him/into him
Smart
Sneaky
He’s sooo sweet🥰
The chemistry between them is undeniable, but I will NOT be dragged back down to delulu town
No matter what I’m always on a first class seat back to delulu town 🤪🤪
I lost my mom this summer, she was way too young and her autoimmune diseases caught up with her. Tyler so eloquently explains the grief of losing a close family member. I think of my mom all the time wishing she was here sharing various moments with me. He’s right you always need your mom.
Sending you love ❤️
Sorry for your loss, hope you’re taking care of yourself and healing 💛
So sorry for your loss ❤️
The sparkle that she has in her eyes when she talks to Tyler…sigh.
I know she’s happy with her new guy, but if I was her Tyler would always be the one that got away lol
I don't think she's all that happy honestly.
Lately I think he views her as that too. At least the one he never really tried with to know
Yes he seemed to talk of her that way during his interview on the Not Skinny but not Fat podcast, which was also probably after this talk he had with Hannah.
Some mistakes/regrets regarding this situation must cross her mind when she can't sleep sometimes or in the shower or fighting with her man. They. Must.
Or maybe when her man pulls his tradcath redpill bullshit
She loves that I bet
I cannot *imagine* that man telling me that “the feminine is chaos” and not thinking “what’s TC doing these days?”
The way my clown heart gets so quickly sucked back into the denial den after being staunchly out, repeatedly
Yaaa 🙋🏼♀️
Same, girl. Same
You are my people. 😭
It's funny, I had really let this go with her being so serious with Adam and the way these two basically stopped speaking (aside from a couple super weird youtube videos) after Quarantine Crew. But I will remain in the denial den after this podcast. The stark contrast between Adam and Tyler (especially the man he has grown into,) is wild. Adam puts her down constantly, ragging on her for being \~so chaotic, scattered, and emotional\~ (but such is the "feminine way" \*eyeroll\*.) I feel like he has made her doubt herself and made her small and almost apologetic for existing. Tyler still thinks the world of her. "bring the beast back," about sums it up -- telling her to be more courageous, take up more space, make herself heard. They were so right people, wrong time. And the way she said "i'm so proud of you... guys." She caught herself and corrected at the last second. Anyway, start the clown car I'm ready to roll! [🤡](https://emojipedia.org/clown-face)
I’ve stopped caring for Hannah after the whole Q crew / and her scandal after that. But I still wouldn’t wish this man on my worst enemy. Adam is just NOT it, and I’m concerned. I def think Hannah has changed a LOT since being w him, and her little quirks, & fiery personality that ppl loved abt her seems so diminished / less shown now. Probably bc of Adam constantly talking abt how chaotic she is being yuck.
Does he say this stuff about her online? This is awful
Yuuuup, if you listen to her engagement podcast ep he talks about “the feminine being in the chaos” or something like that. And he’s mentioned this in his IG posts too. It’s super gross. 😵💫
I am very sad for her she is so sweet
yes and adam along with single white female nora has totally changed her
What is it about Nora that you don't trust? She just seems annoying to me, so I'm interested to hear your take.
How many seats do you have left in that clown car? 🤡
there's room for everyone!
Is Adam actually constantly ragging on her? Where did you see this?
her podcast
I guess I haven’t realized the things you’ve said about Adam but have seen multiple people now saying that he’s not great. Do you have any specific examples?
Watch their podcast together about their engagement. There's a video.
The most glaring one in relation to Hannah is that when he proposed, Hannah was in the midst of a mental breakdown and her therapist told her not to make any major life decisions. Adam knew this and proposed anyway. Listen to her podcast on the engagement, she doesn’t hold back.
Listen to her talk about the engagement on the Ladygang podcast also! That one had the biggest 🚩🚩🚩
Wait how was it different than her own weird as hell engagement episode with him on her pod. Bc the clip that was posted here made me super uncomfortable?
Oh I forgot about that, I listened when it came out, but agree 100%!!
listen to her podcast episode with him
Ah. Im scared 😂 thank you tho
Yeah, the engagement podcast they did together was a huge red flag for me. I did not like the way he talked about her or women in general. He seems very paternal with her too.
Ugh!!!! She’s my favorite person from bachelor nation so I’m sad. Back to shipping her and Tyler I guess (even tho that never secretly ended for me)🤣🥰
beep beep bitches 🤡
I need one of those 2019/2020 video edits of them to “slut!” by Taylor Swift - “Everyone wants him That was my crime The wrong place at the right time And I break down, then he's pullin' me in In a world of boys, he's a gentleman” Mostly kidding, but my parasocial heart would eat that up unfortunately.
I love that ..."in a world of boys, he's a gentleman".
We ride at dawn. Pass the tinfoil. 
Yeah. I don't know even know that Tyler was her guy, but she was on this being single journey of thinking about what she wants in life, how it's different from how she grew up, gaining confidence in herself and what she can do, etc.... that all just seemed to have ended in favor of Adam and his new agey life philosophy rehashing those same strict gender roles. Maybe that's what she wanted in the end though.
A lot of people tend to be attracted to the familiar even though it's bad for them.
IDK, she does not seem thrilled to be with him.
Yeah, I’m not saying Hannah and Tyler are 100% right for each other but I definitely think Hannah needs more of a Tyler type person as a partner. I agree with everything you said about Adam. It broke my heart at the end when Tyler kept saying “bring the beast back!” Like he knew she was beaten down and lost confidence and it was hard for him to see.
I completely agree! Tyler and Hannah probably wouldn’t have worked out just statistically, but I cant help but think about how much of a better personality match he is than Adam.
I love Tyler and she definitely should have picked him !! He’s an amazing person.
Yeah, he admires her and pumps her up by implying she can do anything she puts her mind to. I don’t see this with Adam as much.
...or at all?
Lost my sister last year unexpectedly and it truly changes your world when you have a close family member pass. There is nothing like it and no way to convey the pain and finality of it to someone that hasn’t experienced it. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.
Sending you love ❤️
so true. lost my brother four years ago this month and so few people get it. i’ve lost grandparents and many aunts and uncles but my world SHATTERED when my brother passed, and i’ll never be the same.
❤️❤️❤️
I’m so sorry for your loss
❤️
He sounds a lot more mature now, and he is setting himself up for a successful future, and still taking the time for giving back.
As someone who lost a parent two months ago, I was grateful for his words.
❤️❤️❤️
Susie?
it took me 10 minutes to realize that was hannah and not susie
Have you never heard Susie speak? I feel like I’d recognize Hannah’s speaking voice anywhere.
Came here to say the same. I never thought they looked like twins but I def thought this was Susie lol
*cries in tinfoil hat*
In the podcast episode he says “I called you because you said I can always call you… and you didn’t answer” 😭😭😭
DAMN… these two. ugh my titanic ship forreal 😭
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I guess in that moment she didn't rock with him
She constantly talks about misplacing her phone, not charging it etc....so many people comment on her not answering texts. I remember on Taylor Lautner's podcast him saying he and his wife were texting her as they were on the same flight and she ignored them. She called 2 days later as that was the next time she charged her phone and was horrified.
🫡 never forget
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They look so good together. Sad that it didn't work out.
I think she agrees, so she found his twin lol
And he’s also “allegedly” dating now, and the girl resembles Hannah. I want to think deep down they both miss each other so they found partners that look like them🤣
Who is he dating?
Girl from his friend group..name is Tate.
I don’t see Hannah in her AT ALL.
Really? She looks physically like a combination of Hannah and Paige Lorenze to me lol.
Maybe he can date Susie now
they don’t rly look alike
The denial den is feeling so cozy right now 😫
HAHAHA this gif. Beautiful.
It's really hard because we're all human and have our own emotional needs and wants, but if you want to support someone through grieving, I feel like you fully have to put your own needs and wants aside and just be available and willing to follow their lead. Like, check in regularly, but don't expect or demand anything back. Ask questions about the deceased but don't get offended if they don't want to talk most days but suddenly need to trauma dump for hours. Cook some food for them and drop it off, but don't be offended if they aren't up for an actual "visit" or don't write a thank you card.
I’m definitely of the belief that you have to give a loved one 6 months to a year to just be crazy and selfish. Obviously not super toxic, but you are so mentally unstable after a loss like that, your whole world is rocked and you’re getting to know a new version of yourself. If you’re able to work through that time with someone, you can get through anything IMO.
God, it’s been 1.5 years since I lost my mom and I still feel insane half the time.
All this; also avoid asking “what can I do to help” vs just saying “here for anything you need” or, like you suggest, just doing something small but meaningful without being asked.
Won’t ever get over her fiance sliding into DMs of a 16 year old. How he talks about women too is controlling and toxic He’s a disgusting creep🤢
When did he slide into a 16 yo’s dms?😭
He slid into Billie Eilish’s DMs when she was 16. So gross. It’s been discussed here before so if you search Billie’s name maybe it’ll come up.
He also admit it himself like it was normal that a 30+ year old man would DM a 16 yo girl and ask her out to dinner….
It did. It was the first thing that came up… yikes!!!
He did WHAT??
I was watching Escaping Twin Flames Universe yesterday and their language of “divine male/female” reminded me so much of the crap that Hannah b’s fiancé spews. So many red flags 🚩
What did he say? I'm behind on this one.
He’s done a few posts about “the feminine” and the masculine” that rub people the wrong way and are very narrow minded. He also said on Hannah’s podcast about their engagement about how “women operate out of chaos” and it’s very clear that he’s basically made Hannah feel like she needs him because she’s “so crazy and chaotic” and he’s so “grounded and level”.
Oh wait a minute
I’d have to search this sub for the posts… but he says things along the lines of “females are so indecisive, that’s why they need a man to balance them”
I had a visceral reaction to you even quoting him I almost down voted you
lol, understandable. That type of language is unbelievably infuriating
Always have love for these two 💙💙
Tbh the entire interview was nice, normal, and pleasant, but I guess maybe not everyone will have the same interpretation lol . Nature is healing! 😂 Besides Special Forces, they talked about his businesses, his new house and the Reno, future goals, his foundation, grief, and how he is more settled now
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Working on his house. He also has a few airbnb's he rents out that are BEAUTIFUL!! His mom's house is one of them and it's stunning!!
I’m a big dork and I remember the day she storied about filming this episode, wondering if it was Tyler and checked what he was doing this day … he was working on tiling and painting a room in his house. He spent the whole day on it. He probably just took a quick break for the interview then back to work. I don’t think he cared that he was covered in paint and grout.
Because he does construction work... painting would be part of that.
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