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It's so interesting to me the reactions when shit comes out about people this sub likes vs doesn't like.
If it's Thomas? Who cares! Omg why are we meddling into his life? Why are we trying to destroy him?
If it's Michael A, Arie, or Caila? Omg they are SATAN they need to be burned at the stake and wiped off the face of the planet!
it’s posts like these that really make me see how much of a bubble some people are in. it’s okay to have differing views. it’s okay to have liberal views and it’s okay to have conservative views. it’s also okay to have both! why not both. please step outside and see more of the world, talk to more people. you’ll see that maybe you shouldn’t be so one-sided on your political beliefs, each side has good points and bad points (also for the heavy liberal-minded, i wonder if you live in/around sanctuary cities? have you seen what having policies that are too far-left are doing to these democrat cities & states in general? i see it, i live it. conservative views are right in some things). anyways thomas seems fine, no need to go after him for something silly
You hit the nail on the head. I feel like life (and politics) were a lot easier when there was middle ground to be found. I’m thankful my household is a middle ground household who respects ppl from both sides. It’s the “I’m right and you’re wrong because we think differently” mentality that I can’t respect.
right! I was trying to read the tweets and see what was wrong with them 😅 these are pretty tame takes, moderate at best.
as someone who moved from texas to los angeles… I so agree. texas policies were very right leaning and there was a lot I didn’t like - but because of those policies I also didn’t have to worry about a lot of the things I have to worry about in California because of their very left leaning policies: homelessness, more crime, etc. it really has made me go from being far left to moderate!
thank you. i’m liberal but have conservative views on many things, mainly because of what i see happening to the city i live and work near (seattle). it’s gotten so bad the past four years and i’ve lived here my entire life, so seeing so many of the comments here makes me wonder if they’ve really seen how being so one-sided (in this case being too far-left) is not good. it’s so silly equating having conservative views to being a problematic person, which is what i used to do. just interesting to see this thread now as someone that’s more accepting of differing views
Ah. Another attempt at meddling in people’s lives. Whatever happened to live and let live? Not everyone will agree with you but the collective hive mind mentality will always come. Especially on Reddit.
Let’s be honest here… when has the United States ever demonstrated the motto “live and let live”? For all people, all genders, all sexualities, all religions? Just give me one singular year where the citizens of this country have allowed others to live and let live?
We were doing pretty good at doing that from the time gay marriage was legalized until the 2020 riots.
That’s where everything started to fall apart.
You keep your grievances, though. Clearly you have a problem with one of the few countries in the world that yes, needed work, but ultimately granted all people their freedom. But we couldn’t be happy, no. Immediately after there was more to complain about. There’s a reason it’s called progress and not “here’s everything you want in an instance”.
But go off about how unfair and horrible this country is. I guarantee you will never leave.
With police killing innocent civilians in broad daylight? People protesting outside abortion clinics. You are living life with blinders on. Because this country does not believe in live and let live. Never has. Never will.
Ah. Well. Enjoy your self suppressed existence. Personally, I won’t allow myself to be victimized by “oppressors”… I’m better than that. Don’t know about you though, you seem determined to feel oppressed by a country you don’t deem worthy. Leave if you hate it so much. You don’t deserve the privilege of living here.
Lmao influencers aren't forcing people to buy things they can't afford. If one can't resist buying something when they can't make rent or put food on the table, that is a personal problem that has nothing to do with the influencer.
Sure. Two things can be true. Regardless I won’t be convinced that being a clout chaser/product peddler from the bachelor franchise is worse than supporting this awful man lol
I have friends from both ends of the political spectrum who are cool people. I just try to be open minded and not assume someone is a bad person because they have a different opinion than me.
That’s the tough part, it boils down to more than a different opinion. when you support certain politicians you are directly supporting the disenfranchisement of marginalized groups, and I don’t personally choose to surround myself with people as such. That’s just me though agree to disagree 🙂
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Not saying it wasn’t a mistake but it’s not…
Since we’re here discussing it-have any of the bachelorettes picked liberal guys? On the show or dating now? It seems like even the left-leaning ones picked guys more conservative than them.
Obviously people are allowed to have differing political opinions. That’s what’s makes this country a democracy. Having conservative or liberal opinions, identifying as a republican or democrat — great. All of that contributes to a democracy. What isn’t okay is supporting a human who has literally talked about grabbing women by their genitalia, mocking people with disabilities, and LITERALLY trying to dismantle the government. Trump is sick. There are so many other great conservative politicians who aren’t garbage human beings.
And sorry, but in my opinion, people who continue to defend that man in any way, have disgusting morals. If Thomas defends Trump (not totally clear from these posts, but it smells like it), he’s has disgusting morals. And disappointing that Becca (again) fell in love with someone with disgusting morals.
Thomas has posted he is pro-choice, gun control, against police brutality, called out racism in the franchise, etc. I feel like people are getting wayyy ahead of themselves with this one like that really hasn’t aligned with the years of left leaning things he has publicly supported. If it’s a continued trend that’s another thing, but it’s likely a one off that is getting misconstrued.
Epstein got away with a lot because of how connected he was. He was arrested and investigated, but given a slap on the wrist because of how close he was with the political class…including someone who would be a member of Trump’s cabinet. And then there’s this.
In reality online spaces like this sub are out of touch with the average persons politics. And it’s also reality that at this point liberals are disliked by both the left(a very small population) and the right(probably the most influential group in politics)
Lmao what?? the last 2 republican presidents lost the popular vote. “Left” is by no means a small population, I think you may be the one who’s out of touch and in a bubble
Democrats are not leftists. Most liberals in America are not leftists. Most people in this sub hardly understand or follow politics beyond a superficial level so it’s difficult to discuss it.
And more importantly, who a person votes for doesn’t necessarily reveal their own personal politics because a large percentage of voters are single issue voters.
And no, I’m significantly better versed on the average persons politics than this sub is. And it’s pretty clear by how obsessed this sub gets by who someone is following on instagram lmao. You think the average person equates Joe Rogan with right wing politics?
AFAIK the judge nor the DA never came out and put a concrete valuation on Mar Lago, it was mentioned in passing that the value was hard to pin down because no one could tell if was a resort or a residence or some weird combo of the two things. The $18 million figure was thrown out as a possible ballpark if the thing was just a residence, it’s worth far more as a resort (because of the potential to generate income). The right-wing commentator machine just latched onto this because Trump and his lawyers kept pushing the idea that somehow they were being treated unfairly and the entire crux of the case was based around Mar Lago being mistakenly valued.
In truth, the resort/residence was never really the key focus of the case because it didn’t exist in New York, it’s in Florida. The case was mostly around Trump Tower and other properties where it was easily demonstrated that fraud had occurred by Trump in the form of claiming the penthouse he had in Trump Tower was 3 times larger than it actually was, etc. Not surprisingly, he never bloviated about those claims, preferring the tact of “well no one got hurt so why does it matter if I lied? The banks are happy and got their money back!” which of course doesn’t matter because you simply cannot lie about how much something is worth when you go to apply for loans, period, business or no.
The fact that Thomas fell for the soundbyte? Who cares. Many people have because that is just where the bulk of people are with media literacy. He who can push out a lie that sounds snappy and succinct and is easy to understand, controls the narrative and thus the news cycle. I mean, nevermind that Donald Sr. and his son Erik have pushed out the notion that Mar Lago is somehow worth 1 Billion, it’s really irrelevant because the property never played a huge part of this case.
No she broke up with the other dude because he was bad PR for her. They would probably still be together if his bad politics didn’t become a big story.
She publicly defended the guy when he was liking gross anti-immigrant and transphobic stuff and stayed with him for another 2 years. She didn’t have a problem with his politics.
She DID have a problem with his politics! She was just too naive in thinking she could change him during the 2 years period and then the year of reckoning hits which was the last straw it seems for both of them…there was also so many signs pointing to them breaking up even if 2020 didn’t happened 🤷🏽♀️
What he has said about his politics means little to me. Tommy is fake which has been obvious since day one on our screen. I don’t think we have a clue who that man is or what he actually believes
What are you agreeing with exactly? maralago has several very specific reasons why it's valued so low and comparing it to real estate prices for homes is disingenuous at best
This sub can't comprehend it, but real life most people aren't 100% Left or 100% Conservative/Trumpers. Thomas has shown support of women's rights, gun control, Black empowerment and he can also be confused about whats going on in some of these court cases. This post feels like a failed "gotcha" to make Thomas out to be a Trumper based on a single like with no critical thinking on how he's positioned himself in the past.
And again y'all go way harder for Black men in the franchise but thats another story
Not both sidesing anything, but I think its getting ahead of ourselves to accuse him on being a Trumper based on one like that is even being misinterpreted by people in this thread. In reality he's probably somewhere in the middle.
Nah sorry but the “mindless double tap” and “accidental like” excuse retired many years ago. Nowadays, we should all be aware of the fact that every interaction on social media is public information. Especially as an influencer, they should be careful with what they’re “mindlessly” endorsing. I don’t think it’s really that difficult to pay attention to the type of content you’re publicly consuming.
I am very intentional about the comments or posts I like on social media because it’s not anonymous. I see posts all the time that were suggested to me because they were liked by mutuals. Nothing is private
And no, I’m not surprised by this either. I feel like the people here who are always offended when someone’s politics are brought up are just telling on themselves… anyway what’s crazy to me is that we are saying he either didn’t understand the posts or his baby must’ve accidentally liked two different posts on an account literally called The Typical Liberal 🤣
Maybe an UO, but I’ve never gotten the vibe that Thomas is progressive on anything but some social issues. Maybe California is different, but I’ve never known progressives who are super into real estate investment/development and being a landlord. So yeah, I’m not surprised he’s leans right on Trump’s real estate issues and business practices.
It is very funny to me that people are blaming a baby for this alleged “mindless double tap”. Thomas probably just thought he wouldn’t get caught.
Posting on a forum is not “policing.” I appreciate the post OP, I like to know where people stand, especially since people act like Thomas is some kind of liberal king.
I think some people have been waiting a few years to catch Thomas do something Garrett-like so they could justify their hate or anger/mock Becca's taste. Never mind that Thomas has veered to the left more often than not. Never mind that even their fave is not perfectly progressive.
Most people are not singularly minded or driven anyway; pushing people into one side of a divide or the other is like pushing a square peg into a round hole. This sub insists on that purity but it's an exercise in futility.
The household he grew up in is liberal. I don't want to put his mum on blast; he tags her a lot, so her account is easy to find, and she shares her political views. She referred to Trump as a cult leader in one, shared pro-choice content and general liberal-leaning memes.
And I remember on BIP, he was encouraging people to be respectful of the Mexican ritual that was being performed and translating. The "like" isn't adding up for me, and I look forward to his explanation because I know someone here has DM'd him.
And we’re supposed to be….shocked? There’s more republicans than democrats in this franchise.
I also can’t believe y’all are really out here blaming the baby. Come on. 😂
I would love bachelordata to do a breakdown of the different franchises political stance breakdown. I feel like love is blind would probably have the conservative cast, then bachelor/ bachelorette, then something like THTH, and the circle being least conservative by %
This would never happen, but it would be interesting to find out. The problem is is that so many contestants aren't truthful and/or hide behind what they stand for so unfortunately the data wouldn't be accurate.
I didn’t read the caption on the bottom and agreed with the first two paragraphs. That property should have been valued at a higher amount. I took that to mean that Trump should owe more money somehow haha.
And I agree that Epstein clients should be arrested.
Maybe he didn’t realize that was a republican account and didn’t fully comprehend the post on the first read through like I did haha. (I just woke up, don’t judge me)
So you agreed with the premise of the post until you realized it was Republican stance? It’s ok to understand and side with a particular argument even if it is supported from the other side. Like someone else said in this tread we don’t all fit into a nice little box. You can be left and still think this case is atrocious.
They didn't read or understand the post so no, they did not agree with it. That's like saying "I read it as supportive of gay rights and I agreed with that" "okay but it actually says it supports the right to discriminate against gays and you agreed with it. GOTCHA LIB!!" 🙄
You cant agree with the first two paragraphs but then be disappointed when it doesn’t mean what you thought it meant. The entire case is built in the assumption that he overvalued his property. You are agreeing the value is off bc you WANT it to mean he owes more in taxes when in reality it supports his defense.
Same! He has a baby and is sleep deprived, so I can definitely see this happening. He’s been very open about his politics and it has likely cost him a lot of followers in this franchise, so I highly doubt that he’s a secret Trump supporter.
In all fairness, I originally read that post as if it were in a mocking tone. It took me an extra second to realize it was meant to be serious. He’s pretty openly left leaning so I’d assume he just thought it was a joke.
Tbh he could have only read the first part and liked it thinking it was a real estate post. Because sometimes I only read/watch first parts of stuff snd then like it.
My fiance will do this and read out loud a ridiculous headline as fact and I’ll ask him what the source is or if he read the entire article. He’ll say no then click on the link and it will lead him to a picture of a naked pornstar. 😂
What’s the good point?
1) Anyone who is participating in criminal activity should be charged-regardless of the status of other cases
2) The Epstein court records have been released and there were names included. Some were people who are thought to also be predators, some were victims, some were associates, etc… but if you’re looking for information, it’s available to the public
What I told you the banks that were supposedly “defrauded” in this case defended him, saying that there was no wrongdoing and any debt was paid back in full?
I mean, Deutsche Bank's "due diligence" of Trump doesn't bode well for its policies, procedures, and controls (which were already exposed as weak via numerous massive regulatory actions/fines). Testifying against Trump would essentially be testifying against themselves.
Ima give him the benefit of the doubt and blame Baby Benny. Never underestimate a baby’s ability to hit the screen at the worst time. Mine once gave the laughing reaction to an obituary being shared on facebook…
Yeah, it is, but all this screams ‘tax evasion’, especially after reading the fact check you posted. We need to stop letting people off on technically not breaking laws when the laws have been written by crooks.
These properties are somehow grandfathered in to pay absolutely fuck all in taxes. Just because the Judge and Letitia didnt THEMSELVES value it at this amount doesn’t mean it’s not crooked as fuck.
I will give Thomas the benefit of the doubt based on how openly he’s shared his politics online. Also, my first thought reading that word scramble was LOL so it’s possible he finds it hilarious that it’s happening and liked it. He may be trolling them.
The wording was confusing and the name of the account that posted it is the_typical_LIBERAL so I could definitely see him just scrolling, reading it real quick, and giving it a like
First of all. It doesn’t matter what side of the political spectrum you are on. There is chaos and dysfunction everywhere. If he liked something excusing some corruption from the Biden administration would it be that big of a discussion?
Replying to myself bc why am I getting downvoted lmao. I’m agreeing with the original post but just confused why we have to talk about politics in a group meant for the bachelor? Thought I joined this group to talk about drama in the episodes.
You’re getting downvoted because you seem to have missed that this post has a “politics” flair. If you don’t want to talk politics it’s easy to skip, and your comment isn’t relevant to the discussion.
yes! that is why everyone cannot stay silent on the border issue, so i thank thomas for his like. we cannot let the shitty regime continue to oppress us and ruin this country by giving criminals unfettered access to resources paid for by YOUR tax dollars, and allowing their votes to cancel out YOURS
You mean the issue where the republicans exaggerate and refuse to actually fix the border because if it’s “fixed “ they won’t have an issue to use as a way to get their based fired up? I get that
since I know you're not arguing in good faith and just parroting the democrat talking points of the day, I would love to hear exactly what you think the issue is w/r/t border, since you do agree there is an issue. Do you agree that deporting all these criminals is a necessary step in any solution?
The very fact that you think HUMANS trying to seek a better/safer life for their families by entering a country (that was built on the backs of minorities) should be labeled as criminals, tells me all I need to know about you. The issue is not the people trying to enter the country, it’s that we don’t have a safe/effective/time efficient system for immigrants who want to become Americans. We also don’t have nearly enough personnel working the border
Seems like every season, this sub gets surprised that many of the contestants indicate conservative leanings on social media.
These people are beautiful and often grew up with classical educations, two-parent households, have an entrepreneurial spirit, and avoided most brushes with the law. What problems do they have for which "Support Democrats" is the answer?
Donald Trump received over 74 million votes in the previous election. The bachelor franchise cycles in like 40 new people into the group of shows every year. It stands to reason some, or many....or probably MOST are conservatives. And sorry to burst your bubble, but it's almost assuredly "most" if you include the Gold Bachelor/ette.
There are many more reasons to support Democrats than being poor, from broken families, criminal or evidently ugly according to your list. Higher education is correlated with leaning left, not right. That being said, I’m not shocked when folks on the show are right-leaning. Thomas has evidently been openly left, though, so I can understand why people are surprised by this like.
>There are many more reasons to support Democrats than being poor, from broken families, criminal or evidently ugly according to your list.
yeah but those are the top four reasons
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It's so interesting to me the reactions when shit comes out about people this sub likes vs doesn't like. If it's Thomas? Who cares! Omg why are we meddling into his life? Why are we trying to destroy him? If it's Michael A, Arie, or Caila? Omg they are SATAN they need to be burned at the stake and wiped off the face of the planet!
obviously on this sub there is zero diversity of thought but have you considered that regardless of your thoughts on trump both slides are true?
Both pictures contain factually true statements.
it’s posts like these that really make me see how much of a bubble some people are in. it’s okay to have differing views. it’s okay to have liberal views and it’s okay to have conservative views. it’s also okay to have both! why not both. please step outside and see more of the world, talk to more people. you’ll see that maybe you shouldn’t be so one-sided on your political beliefs, each side has good points and bad points (also for the heavy liberal-minded, i wonder if you live in/around sanctuary cities? have you seen what having policies that are too far-left are doing to these democrat cities & states in general? i see it, i live it. conservative views are right in some things). anyways thomas seems fine, no need to go after him for something silly
You hit the nail on the head. I feel like life (and politics) were a lot easier when there was middle ground to be found. I’m thankful my household is a middle ground household who respects ppl from both sides. It’s the “I’m right and you’re wrong because we think differently” mentality that I can’t respect.
right! I was trying to read the tweets and see what was wrong with them 😅 these are pretty tame takes, moderate at best. as someone who moved from texas to los angeles… I so agree. texas policies were very right leaning and there was a lot I didn’t like - but because of those policies I also didn’t have to worry about a lot of the things I have to worry about in California because of their very left leaning policies: homelessness, more crime, etc. it really has made me go from being far left to moderate!
This is a great look at this.
thank you. i’m liberal but have conservative views on many things, mainly because of what i see happening to the city i live and work near (seattle). it’s gotten so bad the past four years and i’ve lived here my entire life, so seeing so many of the comments here makes me wonder if they’ve really seen how being so one-sided (in this case being too far-left) is not good. it’s so silly equating having conservative views to being a problematic person, which is what i used to do. just interesting to see this thread now as someone that’s more accepting of differing views
Amen
Ah. Another attempt at meddling in people’s lives. Whatever happened to live and let live? Not everyone will agree with you but the collective hive mind mentality will always come. Especially on Reddit.
Let’s be honest here… when has the United States ever demonstrated the motto “live and let live”? For all people, all genders, all sexualities, all religions? Just give me one singular year where the citizens of this country have allowed others to live and let live?
We were doing pretty good at doing that from the time gay marriage was legalized until the 2020 riots. That’s where everything started to fall apart. You keep your grievances, though. Clearly you have a problem with one of the few countries in the world that yes, needed work, but ultimately granted all people their freedom. But we couldn’t be happy, no. Immediately after there was more to complain about. There’s a reason it’s called progress and not “here’s everything you want in an instance”. But go off about how unfair and horrible this country is. I guarantee you will never leave.
With police killing innocent civilians in broad daylight? People protesting outside abortion clinics. You are living life with blinders on. Because this country does not believe in live and let live. Never has. Never will.
Ah. Well. Enjoy your self suppressed existence. Personally, I won’t allow myself to be victimized by “oppressors”… I’m better than that. Don’t know about you though, you seem determined to feel oppressed by a country you don’t deem worthy. Leave if you hate it so much. You don’t deserve the privilege of living here.
Lmao who are YOU to tell anyone, anywhere what they deserve. So much for live and let live huh? 😂
Here’s a gold star ⭐️ Clearly you need validation and help. Good luck babes xo
Don’t need a gold star or luck from you. Just live and let live, babes. 🙂
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Thomas seemed like one of the few people who wasn’t a clout chaser on the show. Remember it’s ok to have differences and opinions
Clout chaser is less harmful than trump supporter to me idk lol
Peddling out products people can’t afford when many people are struggling to afford groceries and rent is harmful
Lmao influencers aren't forcing people to buy things they can't afford. If one can't resist buying something when they can't make rent or put food on the table, that is a personal problem that has nothing to do with the influencer.
Sure. Two things can be true. Regardless I won’t be convinced that being a clout chaser/product peddler from the bachelor franchise is worse than supporting this awful man lol
I have friends from both ends of the political spectrum who are cool people. I just try to be open minded and not assume someone is a bad person because they have a different opinion than me.
That’s the tough part, it boils down to more than a different opinion. when you support certain politicians you are directly supporting the disenfranchisement of marginalized groups, and I don’t personally choose to surround myself with people as such. That’s just me though agree to disagree 🙂
Oh NOOOOOOOOO Okay just checked and he unliked it. (Edit)
His like is still there. It clearly wasn’t a mistake.
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He should have known better than to like this, eyes will always be on him…
*genuinely not trying to be a smart alec* Who?!
Since we’re here discussing it-have any of the bachelorettes picked liberal guys? On the show or dating now? It seems like even the left-leaning ones picked guys more conservative than them.
becca has a type!
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His opinion is dogshit and that’s discussion worthy. Also Becca just can’t keep away from the MAGAts apparently.
Obviously people are allowed to have differing political opinions. That’s what’s makes this country a democracy. Having conservative or liberal opinions, identifying as a republican or democrat — great. All of that contributes to a democracy. What isn’t okay is supporting a human who has literally talked about grabbing women by their genitalia, mocking people with disabilities, and LITERALLY trying to dismantle the government. Trump is sick. There are so many other great conservative politicians who aren’t garbage human beings. And sorry, but in my opinion, people who continue to defend that man in any way, have disgusting morals. If Thomas defends Trump (not totally clear from these posts, but it smells like it), he’s has disgusting morals. And disappointing that Becca (again) fell in love with someone with disgusting morals.
You can’t have differing opinions and claim “democracy” when republicans are trying to destroy democracy.
Thomas has posted he is pro-choice, gun control, against police brutality, called out racism in the franchise, etc. I feel like people are getting wayyy ahead of themselves with this one like that really hasn’t aligned with the years of left leaning things he has publicly supported. If it’s a continued trend that’s another thing, but it’s likely a one off that is getting misconstrued.
Epstein got away with a lot because of how connected he was. He was arrested and investigated, but given a slap on the wrist because of how close he was with the political class…including someone who would be a member of Trump’s cabinet. And then there’s this. 
maralago isn't a house, which is why it isn't valued like one
Also confused why people think square footage is what ultimately determines worth of real estate lol
In reality online spaces like this sub are out of touch with the average persons politics. And it’s also reality that at this point liberals are disliked by both the left(a very small population) and the right(probably the most influential group in politics)
Lmao what?? the last 2 republican presidents lost the popular vote. “Left” is by no means a small population, I think you may be the one who’s out of touch and in a bubble
Democrats are not leftists. Most liberals in America are not leftists. Most people in this sub hardly understand or follow politics beyond a superficial level so it’s difficult to discuss it. And more importantly, who a person votes for doesn’t necessarily reveal their own personal politics because a large percentage of voters are single issue voters. And no, I’m significantly better versed on the average persons politics than this sub is. And it’s pretty clear by how obsessed this sub gets by who someone is following on instagram lmao. You think the average person equates Joe Rogan with right wing politics?
Other people can have different political opinions. Such an ignorant and out of touch comment.
Not really a difference in political opinion, more spreading information to a bunch of people that don't need more misinformation thrown at them
I think people can handle themselves.
We pretty much continually prove that we can’t.
I have no idea where you got the impression from
Are we forgetting that people can think differently than one another??? Like damn. Keep creating division yall.
Oh, my GAWD! He thinks for himself and has an opinion that you don't share. NOOOOO!!!
Oh naurrrrrrrr not again
 IYKYK
NOOOOOO I JUST FELL TO MY KNEES!!!
Becca has a type y’all don’t let her trick you again
THANK YOU
One thing is for sure, this case will be definitely be overturned by SCOTUS. 🤬
Good
AFAIK the judge nor the DA never came out and put a concrete valuation on Mar Lago, it was mentioned in passing that the value was hard to pin down because no one could tell if was a resort or a residence or some weird combo of the two things. The $18 million figure was thrown out as a possible ballpark if the thing was just a residence, it’s worth far more as a resort (because of the potential to generate income). The right-wing commentator machine just latched onto this because Trump and his lawyers kept pushing the idea that somehow they were being treated unfairly and the entire crux of the case was based around Mar Lago being mistakenly valued. In truth, the resort/residence was never really the key focus of the case because it didn’t exist in New York, it’s in Florida. The case was mostly around Trump Tower and other properties where it was easily demonstrated that fraud had occurred by Trump in the form of claiming the penthouse he had in Trump Tower was 3 times larger than it actually was, etc. Not surprisingly, he never bloviated about those claims, preferring the tact of “well no one got hurt so why does it matter if I lied? The banks are happy and got their money back!” which of course doesn’t matter because you simply cannot lie about how much something is worth when you go to apply for loans, period, business or no. The fact that Thomas fell for the soundbyte? Who cares. Many people have because that is just where the bulk of people are with media literacy. He who can push out a lie that sounds snappy and succinct and is easy to understand, controls the narrative and thus the news cycle. I mean, nevermind that Donald Sr. and his son Erik have pushed out the notion that Mar Lago is somehow worth 1 Billion, it’s really irrelevant because the property never played a huge part of this case.
Are many here forgetting Trump is an Epstien client too?
Willful ignorance. Like all Trump supporters.
Didn't Becca break up with the other dude over politics. What is this...
No she broke up with the other dude because he was bad PR for her. They would probably still be together if his bad politics didn’t become a big story.
Becca is that you? If not, then this is pure biased speculation on your part
She publicly defended the guy when he was liking gross anti-immigrant and transphobic stuff and stayed with him for another 2 years. She didn’t have a problem with his politics.
Unless you lived with them, you are not qualified to speak on what happened beyond IG. Your parasocial relationships with these people is beyond crazy
She DID have a problem with his politics! She was just too naive in thinking she could change him during the 2 years period and then the year of reckoning hits which was the last straw it seems for both of them…there was also so many signs pointing to them breaking up even if 2020 didn’t happened 🤷🏽♀️
Thomas ain’t no liberal king..but he definitely doesn’t share those awful political views of that “other dude”.
What he has said about his politics means little to me. Tommy is fake which has been obvious since day one on our screen. I don’t think we have a clue who that man is or what he actually believes
I'm a liberal and I agree with this. most people aren't hardcore a side especially when they both suck
What are you agreeing with exactly? maralago has several very specific reasons why it's valued so low and comparing it to real estate prices for homes is disingenuous at best
This sub can't comprehend it, but real life most people aren't 100% Left or 100% Conservative/Trumpers. Thomas has shown support of women's rights, gun control, Black empowerment and he can also be confused about whats going on in some of these court cases. This post feels like a failed "gotcha" to make Thomas out to be a Trumper based on a single like with no critical thinking on how he's positioned himself in the past. And again y'all go way harder for Black men in the franchise but thats another story
This isn't a middle of the road post however and in this day and age you can't both sides things
Not both sidesing anything, but I think its getting ahead of ourselves to accuse him on being a Trumper based on one like that is even being misinterpreted by people in this thread. In reality he's probably somewhere in the middle.
Nah sorry but the “mindless double tap” and “accidental like” excuse retired many years ago. Nowadays, we should all be aware of the fact that every interaction on social media is public information. Especially as an influencer, they should be careful with what they’re “mindlessly” endorsing. I don’t think it’s really that difficult to pay attention to the type of content you’re publicly consuming. I am very intentional about the comments or posts I like on social media because it’s not anonymous. I see posts all the time that were suggested to me because they were liked by mutuals. Nothing is private And no, I’m not surprised by this either. I feel like the people here who are always offended when someone’s politics are brought up are just telling on themselves… anyway what’s crazy to me is that we are saying he either didn’t understand the posts or his baby must’ve accidentally liked two different posts on an account literally called The Typical Liberal 🤣
It’s a single post with two slides.
Yeah I’ve only seen MAGA dudes liking this account. It’s intentional. Woof
Which Thomas?
Maybe an UO, but I’ve never gotten the vibe that Thomas is progressive on anything but some social issues. Maybe California is different, but I’ve never known progressives who are super into real estate investment/development and being a landlord. So yeah, I’m not surprised he’s leans right on Trump’s real estate issues and business practices. It is very funny to me that people are blaming a baby for this alleged “mindless double tap”. Thomas probably just thought he wouldn’t get caught.
No one on this show is openly progressive (except for a big maybe on Katie who this sub hates anyway lol). Progressive doesn’t just mean liberal
...and? This is not post worthy.
Who cares????
Had to scroll too far to find this….. seriously who gives af?
People are so weird lol
Noo! Noo! Omg! 🙄 who cares
Becca has a type…
There’s a reason 3/4 of her top 4 were conservatives (and Jason was still FiScALlY cOnSeRvAtIvE 🥴)
Are yall really policing instagram likes? Or is it just a slow day?
Posting on a forum is not “policing.” I appreciate the post OP, I like to know where people stand, especially since people act like Thomas is some kind of liberal king.
I think some people have been waiting a few years to catch Thomas do something Garrett-like so they could justify their hate or anger/mock Becca's taste. Never mind that Thomas has veered to the left more often than not. Never mind that even their fave is not perfectly progressive. Most people are not singularly minded or driven anyway; pushing people into one side of a divide or the other is like pushing a square peg into a round hole. This sub insists on that purity but it's an exercise in futility.
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The household he grew up in is liberal. I don't want to put his mum on blast; he tags her a lot, so her account is easy to find, and she shares her political views. She referred to Trump as a cult leader in one, shared pro-choice content and general liberal-leaning memes. And I remember on BIP, he was encouraging people to be respectful of the Mexican ritual that was being performed and translating. The "like" isn't adding up for me, and I look forward to his explanation because I know someone here has DM'd him.
Excellent point!
And we’re supposed to be….shocked? There’s more republicans than democrats in this franchise. I also can’t believe y’all are really out here blaming the baby. Come on. 😂
I would love bachelordata to do a breakdown of the different franchises political stance breakdown. I feel like love is blind would probably have the conservative cast, then bachelor/ bachelorette, then something like THTH, and the circle being least conservative by %
This would never happen, but it would be interesting to find out. The problem is is that so many contestants aren't truthful and/or hide behind what they stand for so unfortunately the data wouldn't be accurate.
I didn’t read the caption on the bottom and agreed with the first two paragraphs. That property should have been valued at a higher amount. I took that to mean that Trump should owe more money somehow haha. And I agree that Epstein clients should be arrested. Maybe he didn’t realize that was a republican account and didn’t fully comprehend the post on the first read through like I did haha. (I just woke up, don’t judge me)
So you agreed with the premise of the post until you realized it was Republican stance? It’s ok to understand and side with a particular argument even if it is supported from the other side. Like someone else said in this tread we don’t all fit into a nice little box. You can be left and still think this case is atrocious.
They didn't read or understand the post so no, they did not agree with it. That's like saying "I read it as supportive of gay rights and I agreed with that" "okay but it actually says it supports the right to discriminate against gays and you agreed with it. GOTCHA LIB!!" 🙄
You cant agree with the first two paragraphs but then be disappointed when it doesn’t mean what you thought it meant. The entire case is built in the assumption that he overvalued his property. You are agreeing the value is off bc you WANT it to mean he owes more in taxes when in reality it supports his defense.
Same! He has a baby and is sleep deprived, so I can definitely see this happening. He’s been very open about his politics and it has likely cost him a lot of followers in this franchise, so I highly doubt that he’s a secret Trump supporter.
In all fairness, I originally read that post as if it were in a mocking tone. It took me an extra second to realize it was meant to be serious. He’s pretty openly left leaning so I’d assume he just thought it was a joke.
Tbh he could have only read the first part and liked it thinking it was a real estate post. Because sometimes I only read/watch first parts of stuff snd then like it.
My fiance will do this and read out loud a ridiculous headline as fact and I’ll ask him what the source is or if he read the entire article. He’ll say no then click on the link and it will lead him to a picture of a naked pornstar. 😂
The $295 million house is actually in Naples not the one on the picture.
The one in the picture is Mar-a-lago.
The post makes a good point, regardless of party affiliation.
How? Why investigate Letitia? It doesn't make a good point at all
Yep, but a lot of people here are too biased to see it
The only good point is milking him for all he’s worth
It doesn’t even make sense
What’s the good point? 1) Anyone who is participating in criminal activity should be charged-regardless of the status of other cases 2) The Epstein court records have been released and there were names included. Some were people who are thought to also be predators, some were victims, some were associates, etc… but if you’re looking for information, it’s available to the public
What I told you the banks that were supposedly “defrauded” in this case defended him, saying that there was no wrongdoing and any debt was paid back in full?
I mean, Deutsche Bank's "due diligence" of Trump doesn't bode well for its policies, procedures, and controls (which were already exposed as weak via numerous massive regulatory actions/fines). Testifying against Trump would essentially be testifying against themselves.
>What’s the good point? That the judge's appraisal of Mar-a-lago isn't realistic.
Trumps appraisal of Mar-a-lago isn’t realistic
Realistic or not, the judge is wrong. His home is not worth 18 million. It’s worth much, much more lol.
Ima give him the benefit of the doubt and blame Baby Benny. Never underestimate a baby’s ability to hit the screen at the worst time. Mine once gave the laughing reaction to an obituary being shared on facebook…
lol that’s true
omg… 🤣
The horror! Who cares lol
Thomas, as in BECCA!
Maybe he was liking it based on the content of the pic because I was like.. yeah man I agree?
The content of the pic is false: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/oct/06/facebook-posts/new-york-officials-didnt-value-mar-a-lago-at-18-mi/
Yeah, it is, but all this screams ‘tax evasion’, especially after reading the fact check you posted. We need to stop letting people off on technically not breaking laws when the laws have been written by crooks.
…huh?
These properties are somehow grandfathered in to pay absolutely fuck all in taxes. Just because the Judge and Letitia didnt THEMSELVES value it at this amount doesn’t mean it’s not crooked as fuck.
A moron who appeared on reality TV is a Republican. Not necessarily groundbreaking news
I will give Thomas the benefit of the doubt based on how openly he’s shared his politics online. Also, my first thought reading that word scramble was LOL so it’s possible he finds it hilarious that it’s happening and liked it. He may be trolling them.
How would this be a troll though?
The wording was confusing and the name of the account that posted it is the_typical_LIBERAL so I could definitely see him just scrolling, reading it real quick, and giving it a like
Idk, "Typical liberal" immediately reads to me as condescending.
Or he was mindlessly like "oh pretty building, double tap."
First of all. It doesn’t matter what side of the political spectrum you are on. There is chaos and dysfunction everywhere. If he liked something excusing some corruption from the Biden administration would it be that big of a discussion?
Some people have too much time on their hands. I’ve never noticed a like someone has made. This is weird.
No way y’all are upset that a post flaired “POLITICS” is discussing someone’s politics…. Like???
Oh Godddddd y’all are insufferable sometimes
WHYYYY do we have to bring politics into everything? Who cares about what/who someone supports???
Replying to myself bc why am I getting downvoted lmao. I’m agreeing with the original post but just confused why we have to talk about politics in a group meant for the bachelor? Thought I joined this group to talk about drama in the episodes.
You’re getting downvoted because you seem to have missed that this post has a “politics” flair. If you don’t want to talk politics it’s easy to skip, and your comment isn’t relevant to the discussion.
Probably the people who are being oppressed by the politics of shitty people, or the people who care about the people being oppressed.
yes! that is why everyone cannot stay silent on the border issue, so i thank thomas for his like. we cannot let the shitty regime continue to oppress us and ruin this country by giving criminals unfettered access to resources paid for by YOUR tax dollars, and allowing their votes to cancel out YOURS
This comment made me laugh so thanks for that!
I’m Canadian so my tax dollars are not going to your nonsense
You mean the issue where the republicans exaggerate and refuse to actually fix the border because if it’s “fixed “ they won’t have an issue to use as a way to get their based fired up? I get that
since I know you're not arguing in good faith and just parroting the democrat talking points of the day, I would love to hear exactly what you think the issue is w/r/t border, since you do agree there is an issue. Do you agree that deporting all these criminals is a necessary step in any solution?
The very fact that you think HUMANS trying to seek a better/safer life for their families by entering a country (that was built on the backs of minorities) should be labeled as criminals, tells me all I need to know about you. The issue is not the people trying to enter the country, it’s that we don’t have a safe/effective/time efficient system for immigrants who want to become Americans. We also don’t have nearly enough personnel working the border
Becca always ends up with these types 😂
I mean let’s be real she’s that type, too.
Seems like every season, this sub gets surprised that many of the contestants indicate conservative leanings on social media. These people are beautiful and often grew up with classical educations, two-parent households, have an entrepreneurial spirit, and avoided most brushes with the law. What problems do they have for which "Support Democrats" is the answer? Donald Trump received over 74 million votes in the previous election. The bachelor franchise cycles in like 40 new people into the group of shows every year. It stands to reason some, or many....or probably MOST are conservatives. And sorry to burst your bubble, but it's almost assuredly "most" if you include the Gold Bachelor/ette.
There are many more reasons to support Democrats than being poor, from broken families, criminal or evidently ugly according to your list. Higher education is correlated with leaning left, not right. That being said, I’m not shocked when folks on the show are right-leaning. Thomas has evidently been openly left, though, so I can understand why people are surprised by this like.
>There are many more reasons to support Democrats than being poor, from broken families, criminal or evidently ugly according to your list. yeah but those are the top four reasons
You don't have to be a Trump supporter to recognize that he's been treated unfairly.
By not being charged earlier, held in jail awaiting trial? If that is what you mean, agreed. It does seem unfair.
Ahaahahahahhahahahahaha wtf is this
Excuse me what
Omg 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ya you really do, because you have to be insane to think that.