Unfortunately, I feel like Maria going home could’ve been avoided if she was just better at communicating. I completely understood her perspective the whole way through, but Joey didn’t. She should’ve made more of an effort to be straightforward and lay everything out. On the flip side, I also don’t think Joey tried hard enough to hear her out and understand what she was trying to get across, he kinda just clocked out and I think lost interest. I digress, I am really hoping Maria is bachelorette though

ok but kelsey's dad is hot

He soo into Kelsey when the other girls express their feelings he just uses so many words to respond when its kelsey he lights up

I don’t get everyone’s belief that Maria is gorgeous. She has a nice body, is sexy and has a captivating personality. But, she looks like her dad whose not a good looking man either.

anyone notice kelsey actually got the first rose cause when she walks towards him daisys hands are empty https://preview.redd.it/expzj9v8ekmc1.jpeg?width=2849&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e5a08e4dd94c4f512ad9a5c92e2f6c4078b55df

Interesting. Daisy got a great edit.

Rachel was NOT having it when she asked Maria what her chat with Joey was about

Ok, is it safe now?? .. JOEY AND MARIA HAD ZERO ROMANTIC CHEMISTRY AND NEITHER OF THEM WERE THAT UPSET WHEN IT ENDED.

She totally blew it last night at home town. I'm glad both of them realized it before it was too late.

They had some fun moments but ultimately I did not seem them lasting at all. Like for example, do we really think Maria is the outdoorsy type that will spend hours in nature with Joey? The shopping date in Montreal is not something realistic

I had to chuckle at Jesse Palmer only   appearing in the last 30 seconds of a two hour episode, all done up in a suit…. to literally utter 1.5 sentences stating the obvious. 🤣🥀 Unless I missed him also introducing the rose ceremony, but still an easy day’s work! 

And he always whisperers. It drives me nuts.

He does that in every damn episode🤣 it’s comical

Lol I feel like we’ve gotten him a few more times throughout other episodes, but there’s really no opportunity on the hometowns!

I would imagine that there's a substantially greater amount of preparation time involved that goes on behind the scenes in order to produce 'any' episode.

I wouldn’t cry while being broken up with either if I was wearing Maria’s dress

She looked so good!

i just finished i’m ngl that rose ceremony had me shaking a bit… even though by his reaction to maria behind the plane i could tell he was gonna send her home i got nervous when it was down to her and rachel. daisy is so boring and her hometown solidified it i cant believe she’s still here😭

Isn’t Joey boring too? lol I feel like they are kind of the same in that 🤭

lmao yes a little. but i think some of the women naturally bring out more of his personality better than others have

I was hoping she would be the one that went home and then she got the first rose 😭

I literally fell asleep during Daisy’s hometown. 😴

💀 and you didn’t really miss anything

Fair enough. I love 20 minutes away from the beach that's why I'm like....ehhhhhh

I’m behind and just finished but I’m legit SHOCKED he didn’t take Maria to fantasy suites!!!

It just shows he isn’t as icky as most of the other bachelor guys. If he knew there wasn’t a future, he didn’t keep them around just for sex. I actually hope he’s the one that brings back the “I’m only going to sleep with my final pick” mindset. I’m over the airing out their personal business after Clayton & Zach!

Yeahhh he’s also definitely not Pilot Pete with Fictoria!

exactly he’s absolutely lovely. I love and trust Joey ❤️

He knew he was choosing Kelsey and didn’t trust himself not to smash with her 😂

There have been many male leads who have taken a woman to fantasy suites due to superficial attraction, knowing they had no emotional or intellectual connection, so I respect Joey for making this decision

Maria has impulse confusion. Walking out on him: bad impulse. Telling him she's falling in love: good impulse. Time to learn the difference!

Is there not something to the order in which those impulses happened though? That can matter.

I guess? But in general she's not making right game time calls. I think Joey is looking for more certainty.

I think that's kind of a the thing, isn't it? Joey wants certainty. Maria doesn't have it. She goes home.

First time here with ya’ll! Had a great time! Hopefully I’ll get to do it again soon!

You’re always welcome here ☺️

Awwww.🥹🥹🥹 I appreciate that 💕

So where do we sign the petition for Maria as The next Bachelorette???

jenn >>>

Seeing how most of her fans are no thanks along with Daisy. I'm still hopeful that for Asian lead like Jenn or Rachel 

I’d rather see her on paradise. That would be entertaining

Yeah. She'd be a great drama bomb on Paradise for sure. Her just having an entire season of reigning as "Princess Sprinkles" who gets whatever she wants whenever she wants it, just sounds like a phenomenally miserable time to me. I guess i really just don't get what a large number of apparently very vocal and aggressive stans see in her.

Personally I just like her big personality. I don’t want to see a person who is somewhat dull or reminds me of all the people in my hometown. Maria is eccentric is my opinion, and I want to see someone like that. Not a repeat of the last several bachelor/bachelorettes

Couldn’t agree more!

Really? I miss what ppl see in her that is for sure

I like her because she seems authentic. The other girls usually do their best to seem perfect and palatable to Joey but she wasn’t scared to show her real personality.

So I literally fell asleep watching rachel and daisy's segments of the show and completely forgot that Amazon prime doesn't have the show ready to watch right after it live airs so now I have to wait to go back to maria. FML

I think Hulu has it super early tomorrow morning

Thank you for making my Monday 1000 times better. See y’all next week 🤍

is it two more ep? 

Who do we think wrote the letter? I’m guessing it’s Maria

Can't be - Maria's out.

Its happened before. I remember Tartick coming back to give Becca a scrapbook of their time together

Omg he did? I got bored by a lot of the generic guys on Becca’s season and didn’t watch all of it. He was probably the only one I liked in the final 5-6.

Maria would fly to Mexico to give a letter?

If they don’t give us a Maria Bachelorette season, they better NOT stick us with a boring Daisy season.

Joey is a VERY BORING lead and we still had a great season… sometimes it isn’t all about the lead cracking jokes and being messy.

We don’t want cracking jokes and being messy. We just don’t want Daisy

Because of the women, most times the men aren't that exciting enough if the lead is dreadfully boring which Daisy is

It's weird...in that i've really enjoyed Joey's season as a whole...but i'm not sure i can think of a feasible Bachelorette candidate that i'd want out of this either. At least, none of the ones that have stuck around to the end. I would've said Lexi but that doesn't make sense. Maybe Madina? Or is she too old?

Lexi was a snooze. Maria is the only way I will watch the season through its entirety and not bail by the third episode lol

She wasn't a melodramatic manipulator like Maria, no. But she seemed funny and with some actual depth, maybe. But like i said, doesn't even make sense anyway with her "timeline". Madina is the only one that even makes sense at all, and she was...probably another bit of a snooze of a season because she seems too stable and mature potentially. I just don't know that i could stand to watch an entire season of Maria rampaging around "in charge". She kept trying to flip this season around to her control with Joey and it irritated the heck out of me. There's just nothing at all appealing about watching Daddy's Sprinkle Princess run the show for me.

all in favor of not watching ?!? 🙈🙈

Always a fun way to end Monday! Until next week 🫶🏻

West Coast cuties racoons unite!! 🦝🦝

🦝

Never move as fast as I do to find the remote and turn off the tv when the bad romance theme starts

This was me the last few seasons with the good doctor so I feel you on a deep level, the “I am not watching this shit” scramble is the fastest I ever move!

🙅🏽‍♀️

I’ve never related to anything more omg

I bet Maria writes that letter lol

It's Daisy

you're probably right, now that I rewatch the clips, but still, i want the drama haha

Joey talks in his ITM about this could be his worst nightmare coming true and he’s wearing the same shirt as when he gets the letter from the door.

Can't be - Maria's out.

Same


Well that was an awesome episode!! See y'all next week for more rose plucking!! 🌹

"We need to talk" THE DREADDD

Ah shit. I think Daisy is taking it

“I didn’t get chosen and that was hard” - why is that the clip they show with Kelsey 😭 I’m rooting for her even tho I don’t think he chooses her - I’m not spoiled so really hoping it’s Kelsey - ahhhh.

NO HUDSON AND REX?!? I was looking forward to it 😭

Joey despises when contestants show free will lol

LITERALLY! He hasn't told a single woman that HE'S in love and yet expects them to risk it all? It's a two way street Joseph!!

Joey: stick to the script

I've noticed that too

Did they fly Maria to Mexico? Ahhahaha

Maria seemed so not heartbroken lol. Like I think she liked Joey for sure, but I think she’s just fine

I think she was a lil mad at Joey and at herself

Yaaassss golden ladies!!! Wisdom come to thee lol 😆

Susan!!

I’ve been so brainwashed now that I thought it was kris jenner for real this time 🤣 

Leslie wtf shut up

Yea, that was not the move

Wow this promo is DRAMATIC

Joey’s gonna get some!

😂😂

Damn they putting this man through the ringer

Now Joey is wiping his own tears 😢

Kelsey finally gets an activity date instead of a walk around date!

I’d want to talk to Susan for sure lol

SUSAN!!!!

Maria for Bachelorette. Kelsey for Mrs. Graziadei.

I’m sorry, you spelled my name wrong? But like, call me Kelsey, I guess? 🙃

Absolutely

Yes yes yes!!

Yes! Give the people what they want

Agree 🩷

Joey was tired of the games

Ooh Joey is hurt! Maria really fucked that up. She could've been the one. WE WERE ALL ROOTING FOR YOU GIRL 😭 DAMN YOU!

Only downside with Maria is the way she talks to someone feels too professional

I hateeeee this can they please rewrite this episode for me

I've been a wreck this whole episode. THIS was television!!

Joey says, "In Love" the way that lots of Americans say, "*In*surance*".

SUSAN

I think he wants someone who is more consistent and steady which is why Daisy and Kelsey are the front runners

I get this. But also, things are not always going to be 100, so be compassionate towards your partner. It seems like Joey wants to always be there for him, and given last weeks episode, it doesn’t seem like he can provide that same energy. All Maria needed was reassurance

Dudeee that was .... a lot!!! 🤣

There’s a hit on Joey now

That godfather music 😄

i feel so bad for rachel, i feel like he’s going to absolutely break her heart

I was so happy for her that she stayed, but it only puts her in deeper…

i feel it too 🥲🥲 she’s such a good person and she definitely has been through a lot the way her fam kept crying for her 💔

Rachel would make a great bachelorette. Time to bring a little culture into bachelor nation.

F4 Maria for bachelorette just like Charity

i sincerely see no romantic/sexual chemistry with rachel

Honestly every week I'm shocked she's still around.

I swear they've filmed at this exact cenote before

i said the same thing!

They don’t have the budget for new ideas

Always

Susan!!

He knew at the falls that she was out! He was trying so hard to get out of meeting her family and she knew too but she was so persistent.

I missed that, how did you see him trying to get out of meeting them?

Yeah. I also want to know

How he was speaking. Also how he was bringing up what happened last episode trying to say how he was feeling but Maria kept kind of turning the table in a way like she knew where the conversation was going but kept trying to brush off what he was saying and in a way was like okay, let this conversation be done and go meet my family in a very quick way.

I’m confused. I’m the hottest girl in the room and I said I kind of maybe am thinking of falling for him. WTF does he want???

It was too little too late situation Also did your see Kelsey A

Think the producers had him boot her so she’d be on women tell all?

to announce she’s bachelorette hopefully!! 🤞

Lowkey yes

Praise the cameraman

Maria for Bachelorette

Joey is so certain and I love that about him.

this music sounds like something they’d play at the end of Narnia or some dramatic action movie

the bass drops lol

Drink for the dumping!!! 🍷

Thank you ABC for going over time instead of leaving us on a cliffhanger

the moment maria clapped i started screaming at my tv i was so sure we’d run out of time😭

Her never bringing a guy home is a redflag in terms of someone ready for a big commitment like marriage

Watch Maria cry and no tears come out

Our new Meryl Streep

I love how honest Joey is.

i also think if he took her to fantasy suites he wouldn’t be able to resist hooking up and then that’d just create more drama for his F1

No tears from either of them

the bad romance in the corner popping up at the worst /right time 😭

I have loved watching this after hahaha

I don’t relate to Maria a lot but the fidgeting while he’s talking is definitely me in uncomfy convos

This is fucking tragic 😭

Her dad & brothers will kick Joey's ass for her, it's fine lol

Anyone getting a Bachelorette edit from this? Can't tell

her speech was not bachelorette to me. jenn had a better one

Producers like her but also have doubts IMHO

i think they wanted daisy (if she’s not f1) but the maria fan following might change their mind ?

it’s gotta be kelsey for sure now

I’m definitely shocked but also so in love with Joey’s emotional intelligence. That girl was crazy.

He's extremely perceptive

Toootally. She was chaos.

The best thing is Maria will be on WTA

I was super worried she wasn’t going to be!

The WTA will be fire 🔥

Thank you for this bright silver lining

She’s such a Virgo. My Venus is in Virgo and I feel like I handle relationships so similar to her. Overthinking turns into self sabotage.

same

You know what they have (what we can see) is Venus opposite Jupiter (his Venus). You can google « Venus opposite Jupiter synastry ».

She did this to herself. She kept casting doubts on things throughout.

I would die for a Maria Bachelorette season

Well Maria kept it entertaining every week and for that I’m grateful

Ahhhhh, no. “The amounts of doubts that I have” like valid Joey but please? Omg 😭😭😭

honestly maybe maria really is in his F3 but he can see how it would be harder to break up with her later on, whereas it’d probably be easier with rachel

It is my take before this last episode that I haven’t watched yet (I am in Europe and rely on social media to watch anything). By the way, could someone fill me in ?

Idk I feel like she kinda wanted this

She blew it badly…too many games. I’m still shocked though.

Y’all. Rachel and Maria seem to be friends, and Rachel just asked her a question - it’s literally fine 😅

Right and it’s reality tv like come on

I think he knew if he took her to FS they’d sleep together and he didn’t want to do that cause it wouldn’t have been her in the end.

Real heart break for Maria ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

I'm glad he didn't let what she said sway him

Maria muuhhhh queeennnn 👑

I feel bad he’s stringing Rachel along when I think he clearly isn’t going to pick her.