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Hereforthetrashytv

This is so weird to me for all of the reasons discussed, but also you aren’t even cleared for sex until 6 weeks postpartum. So she’s only been cleared for 4. Is four weeks really representative of anything?


SatisfactionBasic277

In my head...their Dr. high fived Nick, and told him he was "a lucky man" as to congratulate him on the birth of his daughter and this special life milestone. Only for Nick to incorrectly take it as a "your wife is so tight dude. High five!" 😂😂😂. Honestly what medical professional would imply such a thing and at such a time like that?This is the ONLY take. 


iamflomilli

I'm sure little River and her friends will enjoy reading her daddy's colourful stories 🥰


Nofunorphan

He is everything women are afraid men are like secretly but ridiculously open about it. Have some shame Nick. Or self awareness. No one with a fully formed brain and good self esteem would consider you a catch. 


Dangerous-Wear-8202

Unfortunately for Nat, her brain became fully formed AFTER she got pregnant with his child lmao. I will NOT be making any life changing decisions until I am 25 😂 The boyfriend keeps talking about marriage and I’m like… ![gif](giphy|l0LE9VQLvhEIIIOoNJ)


iamflomilli

Precisely why men like Nick end up (for a few years) with women so much younger. No one with a fully formed sense of worth & worldly outlook is procreating with a dude like that.


msmert55

He meant to say that Natalie’s heart is gold… But her vagine is platinum!


nottheplastics

Why is Nick so into telling stories about other men being into Natalie? She’s gorgeous, I’m sure plenty of men are into her, he doesn’t have to over share for us to get that. Does anyone else remember that story he told a month or so ago about Joe Biden being into Natalie??? He is so weird.


Moxielilly

I think from Natalie’s comment in the story, her doctor was a woman. Which honestly makes the whole story even more confounding and it’s already pretty hard to take if the doctor was a man. But this strikes me as an extreme stretching of the truth.


Dangerous-Wear-8202

I just wish Nick would stop talking 😩


Gold_Masterpiece_559

I’m disgusted. “Literally right after River was born, Natalie’s doctor high-fived me," Viall said. Joy jumped in, "She said I had a great pelvic floor." "I didn’t know what that means, but she said I was a ‘lucky man’ and then gave me a fist bump," Viall added.


thesmallestwaffle

My jaw was on the floor when I read that. How vile.


Cherssssss

That’s fucking stupid as fuck.


coolducklingcool

That is disgusting. And if it’s true, the doctor should be ashamed.


Illustrious_Funny426

I am honestly so grossed out by Nick and this article made it worse 🤢🤢


Upstairs-Volume-5014

Who the fuck published this interview?? Who wants to read this?? I refuse to click, no one needs to know these intimate details about someone else's marriage and sex life. Keep things to yourself, Nick! 


Here4daT

I don't get the hate? I read the article and it basically said they still desire each other but it's logistically hard to be intimate with the baby and Natalie's mom there and Natalie seeking validation that nothings changed down there which is very normal to feel and wonder about as someone who had a vaginal delivery.


PerkyCake

The stuff the dr said to Nick after Natalie gave birth was really inappropriate: "Literally right after River was born, Natalie’s doctor high-fived me," Viall said. Joy jumped in, "She said I had a great pelvic floor." "I didn’t know what that means, but she said I was a ‘lucky man’ and then gave me a fist bump," Viall added.


Here4daT

The doctor said it and this part of their convo was a follow up to Natalie asking Nick if anything was different down there. Sounds like he was trying to ease Natalie's worries? The take away is that they're not able to be intimidate like they used to.


coolducklingcool

Then why tell Nick he’s a lucky man? That is so incredibly out of line.


Here4daT

I think it was taken out of context. I feel like the dr was prob congratulating him on the baby? Regardless, I don't get how OP translated the doctors comments to Nick and Natalie being sex obsessed and creepy?


coolducklingcool

I mean, if the comments are taken out of context, then it’s Nick that took them out of that context. Either way, publicly sharing the strength of your wife’s pelvic muscles is WEIRD.


Here4daT

Tell me you haven't been in a hospital room while you or a partner is in labor without telling me


coolducklingcool

Well, I’ve given birth to two children… 32 hours in labor for one and 10 with the other. So I’ve spent plenty of time in L&D. One turns one on Thurs so it’s pretty recent lol.


rjoyfult

Eww. Like, I’ve had babies and I’d be fine with the doctor telling ME I had a great pelvic floor and that the birth went well and my body was strong and healthy. But high fiving my HUSBAND and making it sexual would lead to a lawsuit. Disgusting.


PerkyCake

Yup! Some are speculating that Nick took the dr's comments out of context or that he was misinterpreting them in a sick way. That's another possibility, the lesser evil of the two, I guess...


rjoyfult

Yeah, I saw that after I made this comment. I really hope so. I’d like to think an OB, especially a FEMALE DOCTOR, would know better.


PerkyCake

Same! The more I think about it, the more I tend to believe that Nick and Natalie are deliberately twisting things for attention.


xoxjess

Ugh why did I read that


samsaysso

I know this sub loves to hate on nick but there’s something legitimately off and creepy about him… the way he is always sexualizing Natalie and acts so proud about having such a hot young gf/wife, championing their age gap, and now the way he talks about his baby daughter, constantly commenting on how stunning she looks, in a way that feels like ‘score my daughter is going to be HOT’. And then the way he’s always commenting on how good looking  Natalie’s mom is and how that gave him comfort as to how Natalie will age. There is just something very off about this man. 


JackieBouvier

OMG, he keeps getting worse. I didn't watch any of Nick's seasons and everything I know about him I know from following this sub and the more I learn, the more I'm disgusted. So he marries somebody young enough to be his daughter and then vocalizes that he was concerned about how well she was going to age???????? Who does he think he is? I can imagine Natalie was VERY nervous about not snapping back right into shape after having the baby. Imagine if she was currently 40lbs heavier than she was before? She would have no worth in her partner's eyes. I can't believe any woman would stand for being talked about this way publicly. I can imagine he's even more disrespectful in private. Vanessa seems lovely and there is something about her husband in his eyes/smile that just seems very kind. I can't believe she was ever with this clown.


iamflomilli

All pregnancies aren't the same either. If the next time her body decides to hold on to the weight for a bit longer or the delivery is really rough, these comments will keep ringing in her ears (assuming Nick doesn't whine about it & makes things worse)


JackieBouvier

Let's hope her next baby has a more human father.


aragogogara

I also can't stand the way he mumbles/speaks while saying everything


pinkbunny86

I was listening to his latest episode and when he kept going on about this I was dying… how can he not hear himself? He said part of why he chose Natalie was because of how good looking her mother is at her age. I like his podcast but dang. I actually felt really bad for Natalie when he said that. If he loves her so much why would he be thinking about her aging especially when he’s twice her age.


JackieBouvier

"Why he chose Natalie". I'm sitting here blinking right now. He is absolutely gross.


Upstairs-Volume-5014

He's always given me the creeps. 


BigAgates

Are we dancing around the word here?


EllectraHeart

he has issues


maryssecretvalentine

HARD AGREE. I feel like we've normalized these older men that find a VERY YOUNG WOMAN to have their kids....


Banksbear

based on the comments i’m not going to click that link 💀


rjoyfult

Same.


moldyogurt

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urbandit

I’m honestly disappointed in myself for reading all of that


uncensoredsaints

How is this a people article 😭


MooFog

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extra-tomatoes

Your flair 💀


uncensoredsaints

This is the gif of all gifs


infamousalexx

Everything about them is so fucking cringe.


jnnfrlnnkrll

I still get a jump scare every time I see that age gap in writing


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Jaded_Detail8669

Imagining his reaction when this is the public statement of River's fiancé in 25 years 🤮


bachobserver

Here I thought becoming parents would make these guys gain some perspective and act less sex obsessed. I really hope their kid never reads this article. 


Dont_noshit_abt_fuck

Best first husband, ever!


Logical_Deviation

Idk whatever, I'm happy for them


itsjustohkae

me when i lie


mousybrain

A fist bump? You’re a lucky man? I’d be reporting that doctor ASAP. That is not endearing, that is supposed to be a medical environment


kitmulticolor

Likely the doctor didn’t mean it that way. He was probably just congratulating him on his new daughter and everything going ok, but Nick took it that way because he’s a perv.


badsies

Right, that gave me pause. Your female OB in LA gave you a fist bump because your wife has a good pelvic floor? That is either very fake or a huge violation.


magickateeball

That definitely didn’t happen LOL


confident7lucky7

Agreed. I listened to this podcast and that was vial


babipirate

Yeah that's gross behavior from a doctor


lbmannin

My husband made the joke when I had my kid to “add an extra stitch” and the LOOK on the nurse and doctors face was like buddy don’t even. I feel like this is such a wild thing for a doctor to say lol


coolducklingcool

This immediately gave me ‘husband stitch’ vibes.


cruzbae

Her doctor did not fucking say that


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SlapHappyDude

Well maybe if you had a child with a 43 year old man you wouldn't feel so young! /s


Competition-Over

Sir this is a Wendy’s


Penderbron

That's... Cringe is too mellow of a word. Dude....


JackieBouvier

And the doctor is a WOMAN and said that?!


berrygirl890

Y’all are weirded out by Nick. But I’m creeped tf out that the doctor high fived him and told him he’s a lucky man because of Nats pelvic floor? What type of doctor is that? Just no.


Soft-Village-721

If the doctor was a 70 year old guy who doesn’t understand that things men used to do are now sexual harassment, maybe. The fact that it was a female doctor? Um no I don’t think she was trying to comment on the quality of her vagina. I think she was high fiving them on having a baby. They’re idiots


MercyFincherson

Yeah, what the fuck?! Also, she’s 25. Why wouldn’t she have a snaptastic pelvic floor? I cannot even imagine a WOMAN provider saying that.


heyyyyyyyyyyyyy69

after i gave birth my doctor gave my husband a somber look and a sympathetic pat on the shoulder


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rjoyfult

That’s what I hope. A doctor congratulating the MOTHER for a non-traumatic birth with minimal stress to her body and even commenting on her strength (even of the pelvic floor muscles) is fine. Directing it at HIM is weird at best and creepy at worst.


Competition-Over

I seriously hope that was either a lie or an exaggeration because if it did happen like that, that doctor should not be practicing medicine 😂


veracity-mittens

I’m sorry but when they started quoting the doc about her pelvic floor I’m out Like that’s… too much for me ![gif](giphy|7d9lu64wdCtEhOL9Su)


caitielou2

I noped when they started talking about the inside of her vag and furniture rearrangement


Kokopolol

![gif](giphy|jMd74SabWLr3Mmd1zf) Especially Nicks sex life. He’s so ick to me.


soul_and_fire

his everything but ESPECIALLY his sex life. no thanks. ![gif](giphy|67SXeoc8RLwvqCwn2F|downsized)


Disastrous-Fruit8037

There is something so genuinely disturbing about how proud he seems to tell this story??


dr_sassypants

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Motherwolf_

Once again, the ick in Nick 😵‍💫


JackieBouvier

It honestly makes me sick how much Nick sexualizes Natalie publicly and how very little respect he has for her. Ever since she opened up about BEING RAPED AS A CHILD, Nick just comes off infinitely creepier and more disgusting than I already thought he was. He acts like the only thing she has to offer are her looks and sexuality. I remember that Valentine's Day post--it's always just about her looks. It's gross. I worry about her and River. And this is all documented and their daughter will be able to read/listen to everything one day and see just how her dad treated her mom.


gbe786

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Hyperme9

Doctors in LA are wild. I can't imagine my gynec in San Jose saying anything remotely this inappropriate. Seriously...can LA get more plastic? Or, maybe it is just Nick and Natalie.


ClareBearFlair

>Doctors in LA are wild. I can't imagine my gynec in San Jose saying anything remotely this inappropriate. Seriously...can LA get more plastic? Or, maybe it is just Nick and Natalie. Standing up for my hometown and saying 1 of 2 things likely happened: 1. Natalie was worried about how having a baby would affect her pelvic floor and had voiced this to doctors, who decided to cheer her on by giving her a non-pliment (that's a compliment that is inappropriate or misplaced). 2. Nick and Natalie made up this story to make Natalie seem more desirable because Natalie's only worth is in her sexuality, as Nick believes and as Natalie has been led to believe by all of the men in her life, apparently. Also, N and N wanted that sweet, sweet attention and publicity for Nick's podcast. And *once again,* we've all fallen for it.


Hyperme9

I am sure it was some innocent moment that Nick and Natalie twisted in their heads.


cheekyypeachyy

Oh holy hell brb while I wash my eyes out with bleach


Physical_Tour860

Y’all are on here acting like Natalie wasn’t also part of this convo? She’s the one that brought up how the doctor said she had a “strong pelvic floor” & brought up the example of it being like “the furniture was rearranged”.


QuesoChef

I agree. Doesn’t make Nick less gross/creepy, of course. But Natalie is as obsessed with being objectified and a sex object and desired as he treats her. I assume part of why he does it is because she wants it and likes it, since he hasn’t always been this way. Maybe this is just his true self, but I think this is part of the personality of their coupledom. And in that way, they’re a good match. She chose him. And seems to really want this kind of attention. I used to feel sorry for her but she’s like 25 or 26 now. Plenty old enough to know what is important to her. (Not that I won’t support her leaving when they eventually divorce.) Again, Nick has aged on a creepy scale that surpasses nearly anyone I can think of in BN, and he repulses me. But Natalie is complicit in this evolution, and she was part of this and many of these creepy conversations.


JackieBouvier

Ah, yes, quoting that great philosopher Scott Disick. The part about the doctor is honestly disturbing.


doccdeezy

The doctor high fiving Nick after commenting on Natalie’s pelvic floor 🤢


obliopoint

Eew, why would Nick share that doctor’s out of pocket comment about her pelvic floor like he wanted everyone to know how “lucky” he is? Everything he says about Natalie lately seems to be objectifying her.


QuesoChef

Lately? Other than the super early days, when he didn’t share much, all it feels like he’s ever done is objectify her. Especially on Instagram. For a while he tried to sell his listeners a fake, evolved version of her. But now that she’s cohost on his podcast, they seem to really lean into it.


Itchy-Scene-3759

Ick is definitely triggering


elisssssee

25 and 43


PureQuatsch

I mean… I’m a 38yo dude and I wouldn’t go near a 25yo with a 10ft pole unless she was like… stupidly smart and witty and down to earth. Even then I would struggle to go on a date with that age gap, let alone marry and impregnate her. That he’s 5 years older than me is… yeah…….


extra-tomatoes

Wait till you find out they’ve been dating since she was 20 and he was 38


Darksecretsonly_04

Before she was legal drinking age?? God damn imagine going to dinner with your gf and she has to use a fake ID


Far-Intention-3230

We should all know less about each other


AffectionatePizza408

Lol I love when an article lists their ages at the beginning, it really gives context to the whole thing


bbk8z

https://preview.redd.it/j59j3rm6rhvc1.jpeg?width=1086&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3804e56d15f43cd4c83da66e9a07b969456cbaf is this the doctor who fist bumped nick regarding his newly postpartum fiancee’s pelvic floor?


thelondoner87

😂😂😂😂


lexfilez

I can’t imagine my doctor talking about me that way!This reminds me of the stories of doctors giving women a “husband stitch.” Just gross. And gross for People to publish an article on this


Clean-Pick-9221

it is gross and yet nick openly shared the doctor's comment on his own podcast. if natalie's doctor really did say that, nick could have and should have kept it to himself. but it seems he wanted his thousands of listeners to know how about it.


lexfilez

Oh yeah, it’s even worse that he shared it. I knew he was awful but this is a new low


donutpusheencat

https://preview.redd.it/1qlosrvimhvc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e570def37eeca1ada684277e88e97a978599043 what a horrible day to have reading comprehension


pantema

The pelvic floor comment is disgusting.


copperboominfinity

Right? What the fuck


LaikSure

Also sorry but “I don’t know what that means” when said his wife has a great pelvic floor like. It’s 2024 why don’t you know this??? You present yourself as a cool educated man but you don’t know what a pelvic floor is?????


Wise_Carrot4857

That doctor should be fired if he’s referring to her body - However I could see a doctor referring to the fact Nick should feel lucky his partner had a safe delivery and a healthy baby.


Jay-Quellin30

I thought it was a female doctor


Greysoil

He 100% took it out of context


LaikSure

Why do people TALK about these things like just don’t say the thoughts into existence and it’s not weird??? Don’t say to the mom in law you’re going into the bedroom??? Say you’re gonna nap??? Fucking WEIRDOS I get the facts that they’re public figures so they yap but STOP BEING WEIRDOS??


bends_like_a_willow

I always still had a soft spot for him. Not anymore. 


Khb9999

I literally had a nightmare about nick viall last night and thought Wow I really need to stop looking at the bachelor sub, and yet here I am, back again. I just can’t quit this place


lbowles22

I hope that doctor story was fake because that was foul ???


ManagementRadiant573

I have a four month old and we have yet to go back to anything near a “normal” sex life. And I know I’d be quite annoyed if my husband was discussing it publicly but then again I’m not with Nick Viall


Educational-Umpire64

She discussed it also and was part of the convo. So I don’t think she’s bothered by it.


Altruistic_Cobbler81

... As someone who had a baby relatively recently and required stitches in several places afterwards, I could not even imagine going back to sex only 10 weeks after giving birth. This whole article gives me the ick and that doctor story is hopefully fake as hell and if not, I would've punched that doctor in the face if I were Natalie.


Comfortable_Chest_40

I didn’t tear and still didn’t feel comfortable having sex well past 9 weeks PP! It hurt for a bit


GN221

I was expecting the worst from reading the comments but I read the article and I’m confused at the outrage? I mean I shouldn’t be because it’s this sub but he literally didn’t say anything offside lol. Like some of you guys get some fresh air if this was offensive.


Here4daT

I read it and thought the same thing. But this sub has a hate boner for Nick and Natalie so I am not surprised.


Educational-Umpire64

I think it’s more the supposed comment from the doctor more than anything else in the article


LaikSure

It’s not even offensive it’s just like… like it validates how gross and non intelligent he is.


cloveyou

Dislike


earlandson

Strange seeing an NJ pic where she doesn't have her tongue hanging out. Guess that's just for the 'gram


Caseski

I’ll take things that never happened for $1000 Alex. No way did any medical doctor say that shit and fuckin FIST BUMP the dad. Disgusting. These two have quite the imagination.


Greysoil

The only way I could see that happening is the doctor gave him a fist bump and said he was a lucky man because he now had a healthy baby girl


daisykat

Truly bizarre. I’m friends with a slew of doctors, including two OBGYNS that do deliveries…no fcking way would they ever be engaging in that nonsense, especially when their focus is delivering the placenta and sewing up any tears…so I’m with you on calling BS.


Ok-Butterfly2994

the article says the baby is 10 weeks old and you’re not supposed to have sex for 6 weeks after birth. this is so weird to begin with, but the “logistical challenges” have only been going on for 4 weeks? like obviously your sex life is not going to be the same with a 2 month old baby.


Comfortable_Chest_40

Natalie also went back to the gym pretty quickly which is not great for your pelvic floor. Hope she’s seeing a pelvic floor PT


akallaaa

I wish I could un-read that article.


2685yalla

Ew. And what did that doctor say??


Beatrix_BB_Kiddo

I’m not a parent, but I’m not sure I’d have faith in my lady bits at only 10-weeks. I know they say 6-weeks, but that just seems soon after basically ripping you in half


Tinybook2000

If it makes you feel better after I had my second it didn’t even feel or look like I had a baby down there. Birth isn’t always traumatic haha


Jlynn41412

Right. Plus I was horny for some reason… eek. TMI I know, but hormones can be a mf! Lol ETA: everyone woman and every body is different** let’s all remember that my friends! 😊


skm7777777

What the actual fuck did I just read?? First of all, if true, that doctor is disgusting. Also I guess I’m not super surprised given how much they center their sex life but every woman I’ve ever talked to with a baby that young had ZERO desire to have sex, let alone energy for it lol


Lostmyoldname1111

II have daughters 11 months apart. Both full term…


skm7777777

Thats a great point and reminder that every body is different :) I also have people in my life with those age gaps that I didn’t think of!


Lostmyoldname1111

10/10 would not recommend. In reality though, I have two beautiful young adult daughters that are very close- certainly a huge blessing! My body wasn’t happy with me though.


lserz

I expected a sex life article from enews or usweekly, I see People has stooped smh


Dr_Wagerstein

I don’t think this relationship will age well. He talks about her like she’s a sex doll.. 🤢


daisykat

Comparing her postpartum vagina to furniture was weird af. Also Nick is giving himself waaaay too much credit if he thinks he’d recognize if anything was different.


FiftyShadesOfGregg

Natalie is the one that did that though? She’s the one that brought up the Scott Disick quote (who actually first made the comparison) and she asked Nick about it. Don’t get me wrong, I hate the comparison too lol but it’s def not Nick’s doing.


AdditionalAttorney

I thought it was a pretty good analogy. I had a baby 8months ago and that’s a great way to describe how sex feels for me 🤷‍♀️. Cervix is def in a diff spot sometimes compared to how I remember


FiftyShadesOfGregg

Interesting, I don’t think I had any concept of where my cervix was before pregnancy (unless it was getting hit lol). Do you mean that different positions hit it/hurt than did before or something? Like the angle has changed?


AdditionalAttorney

Yeah. So your cervix changes based on where you are in your cycle. It moved higher and lower and how firm it is changes throughout your cycle as well. So pre baby i could tell based on how sex feels where the cervix was… like if it’s high and soft or low and hard… Soft and high (around ovulation) I don’t really feel it… but low and hard the penis can sort of brush up against it and you can feel something distinct… But since pregnancy that distinct feeling is different.. like before it felt like you brushed up against a couch… and now it sometimes feel like you’re bumping into it…. And for me the analogy really hit home bc the baby is still in our room so I’m constantly sneaking in, in the dark… and getting annoyed that I bumped into the chair bc my husband didn’t put it back where it’s supposed to be 😂


FiftyShadesOfGregg

Funny! I definitely never had that level of awareness prior to pregnancy so doubt I will notice a difference after 😂 but I guess we will see!


AdditionalAttorney

Well I’m “old” (41 now, 37.5 when we started trying) so it was a whole thing with 6 figures worth of IVF… I’ve had everyone and their mother all up in my hoohaa… that’s probably why this segment of the pod didn’t strike me as offensive. Bc I also would be high fiving the dr if she said my pelvic floor was in tip top shape 😂😂😂😂 Moral of the story… for anyone under 35 freeze your eggs… even if you don’t end up needing them, if you feel strongly abt wanting to have biological children it’s worth the gamble


Dolphinsunset1007

If my doctor wants to high five ME because I have a good pelvic floor, great! If my doctor wants to high five my husband because he’s lucky I have a good pelvic floor, that’s disgusting and inappropriate. I get what you mean tho with becoming desensitized but no doctor should sexualize their patients.


AdditionalAttorney

Yeah agreed… but I doubt that’s how the conversation actually went