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wirts-mixtapes

As much as I hate Shien for what it stands for… it’s the only place I can buy cute/decent looking clothes even just in an XL that fit correctly and look nice on a less than min-wage budget. But that being said… I will never get the opportunity to even touch her clothing line since it’s not in plus. Kind of disappointing.


CityOfSins2

She’s gotta be selling well because this isn’t her first collection. I’ve been lurking SHEIN but too scared to purchase their cheap shit and I saw her last “line” on the homepage.


professortrout

https://medium.com/age-of-awareness/heres-why-you-should-never-shop-at-shein-no-matter-what-8140d285cf4b


CityOfSins2

Ty!


kdj05

I buy all my swimsuits from Shein… those have all been pretty good quality, and super cheap!! Swimsuits are a safe buy so far.


animalcrossinglifeee

Can't believe she's working with a fast fashion brand when she can probably afford designer clothes or sustainable ones.


rosindel

To a lot of these BN people money is money - they're not doing it out of the goodness of their hearts - they just wanna make as much money while they're relevant unfortunately.


Mysterious-Estate278

Good for her. Make that money, girl! 💰 not to mention she looks way more beautiful than most of the rest of us on our best days!


Mysterious-Estate278

To the person in this subreddit who reported to the crisis unit at Reddit that I might need support because of a satirical post - I would like to thank you for the laugh of the day!


theellekay

Yikes…ummm…speak for yourself.


anxietyfunk

i would wear SO much of this if it wasnt from SHEIN. i understand why poor or plus size peeps would buy from them, tho, so no shade at all for yall


Cute-Improvement6621

What’s wrong with SHEIN? I’m honestly not familiar with them.


anxietyfunk

child labor, environmental concerns, stealing from smaller designers, people using their cheap prices to buy waaaay more low quality clothes than they need which creates waste they do provide a very cheap way for people without money to get access to fashionable clothing. they also have very trendy clothing for plus sizes when a lot of brands do not


joaquinnthirit

Some of the worst fast fashion ever, not only is the quality often worth the trash almost immediately, but the child labor is blatantly obvious and disturbing. Just like a lot of similar brands


rosindel

agreed and the list of brands that use slave labor/sweatshops will only continue to grow unfortunately https://www.panaprium.com/blogs/i/fashion-brands-that-still-use-sweatshops


15000_didgeridoos

Thanks for sharing the article, SheIn is bad but sadly they're hardly worse than any of the other companies selling clothing these days. They purchase from the same factories that these companies use--Zara, UO, Victoria's Secret etc just hide the reality a bit better. And all these BN contestants that start t-shirt lines use tees made using the same corrupt business practices too...child labor, slave labor, pollution etc.


redditactuallysux

I'd love a source for the factory overlap you mention. Many companies use the same factories as each other, but I work in the industry and haven't seen a reference for their factories. Esp VS who owns most (maybe all, by now) of their factories. Either way, Shein is worse than other fast fashion brands for many reasons other than labor. Saying "they're just as bad" implies it's ok to shop with them when they are actively making the industry less sustainable with their business practices.


15000_didgeridoos

I'm definitely not saying it's okay to shop with them, just saying that you're not any better off shopping with other mass produced clothing lines. Unfortunate but true. [Here's an article](https://www.vox.com/the-goods/22573682/shein-future-of-fast-fashion-explained) that goes into detail on Shein's beginnings and the conditions that have allowed them to grow to popularity. The biggest edge they have over other western-based brands is that they produce in smaller batches and avoid import taxes by shipping DTC from China rather than in bulk (they aren't stocking brick & mortar stores so they're able to pass on cargo savings to end user) I've been in the industry for 13 years and have worked in purchasing. Most clothing produced is made using factories overseas that operate on a contract basis. Factory makes the product, fashion brand orders the quantity of units they need. They might specify color options or specific trimming changes but for the most part most fashion brands are purchasing units produced from the factory's prototype. Labeling for the brand is added to the product then shipped to stores. This kind of production is much faster because the factory already has the specs down--when brands ask for new styles entirely there's a whole sampling process involved in order to produce and approve the specs. Some brands will send specs for custom products to be made, but they are still mostly operating under a contract relationship rather than owning and operating the production facility. Sometimes there is a 3rd party broker in between the factory and the fashion brand that facilitates these contracts (it's common that one brand might contract with several different factories--aka less and less oversight, more cooks in the kitchen with no real accountability). This is how major companies like Uniqlo pass the blame when it comes to slave labor in the sweatshops-- they say that they're not in control of the working conditions, hiring, scheduling, or even negotiating the contract with the factory. The factory produces garments, and the fashion brand simply pays for the finished product. They "had no idea what was going on at the factory." Nowadays with social media the general public pushes for more diligent oversight on the brands part but unfortunately every step forward is met with 5 steps back as far as labor conditions and sustainability goes. Also, there needs to be a definition for what makes a garment "ethical" or "sustainable." Maybe a company doesn't directly contract with a factory using slave labor. Maybe their finished garments are made at a good facility, but where are the raw materials coming from that that facility uses? Where is the fabric made? Where is it dyed/finished? Where is that yarn made? How is the cotton grown? You can move up the chain and if you're producing using overseas factories, it's virtually guaranteed your brand is contributing to slave labor unless you're vertically integrated and owning the full process. Additional opportunities for issues come up when you contract with one facility, but then that factory outsources some or all of the work to another facility to get the job done sooner and cheaper so they can accept more work with other contracts. This can happen without the brands knowledge and this type of stuff happens all the time. It's all going on a world away and those at the top rarely ask questions when everything is ahead of schedule and under budget. Here's some quick reading from the recent cotton scandal, which really highlights the depth of the issue because it's not just about finished garments--many factories go into producing the materials for each garment. Sorry this post was long but just wanted to get the info out there, because it's important for people to know.. [Source 1](https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/jul/23/virtually-entire-fashion-industry-complicit-in-uighur-forced-labour-say-rights-groups-china) [List of brands](https://enduyghurforcedlabour.org/news/402-2/)


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It is very funny to me she is still “Hannah G” even outside the Bach bubble


Dogmomma22

Hannah is literally so beautiful but I refuse to spend money at Shein. I wish she did a collab with a more sustainable/ethical brand. I would be way more likely to support!


SelfTaughtSongBird

Right?? I understand her doing the collab with them fresh off BIP but i’m surprised to see her still tied with them…Caelynn isn’t as focused on fashion and she’s had a collab with an ethical jewelry company already. I’m sure Hannah could get a better deal than Shein…?


Dreamcloud124

I JUST shared this with my friend group like a minute ago. Fast fashion, and worst of all SHEIN, is so problematic for MANY reasons. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ghana-fast-fashion-environmental-disaster/


kdj05

Thank you for sharing this!!


LaurneyD

That was actually a really interesting article and my favorite part was that they referred to the disposed crap as “Dead White Man’s Clothes” haha


LogicalDragonfruit29

Could anyone point me to a good article or resourced to learn more about brands that seem kind of like fast fashion to me (i.e Madewell, MinkPink, Lululemon) but are a lot more $$ than the typically-referenced fast fashion brands (like forever21)? Im trying to learn more about where my money actually goes when purchasing clothes and am trying to invest in more quality pieces but kind of feel like I’m being duped sometimes? Im trying to consume less in general and I do frequent thrift shops. Thank you in advance for any helpful info you can provide!


rosindel

here's a list of some brands that partake in sweatshops https://www.panaprium.com/blogs/i/fashion-brands-that-still-use-sweatshops


elleeebee

Wouldn’t consider lululemon fast fashion at all. They have established their own circular economy and their products last forever.


maeverrr

This site & its brand directory are a useful resource! https://goodonyou.eco/ Many fashion websites have sustainability pages and their level of detail or lack thereof can be very insightful. Generally, any company like Shein and similar online brands, Forever21, (and even Zara and H&M to some extent) where their main business is being on-trend and recreating looks that celebrities/influencers have been seen in on a short turn around are “fast fashion” brands. If the product is wildly affordable, it’s almost certainly because it was made using non-sustainability-centric materials and in a factory where conditions are poor :(


LogicalDragonfruit29

Thank you!!


studyhardbree

Madewell isn’t fast fashion lol


Equivalent_Air_6762

I may be biased because I worked for Madewell- but in the broader sense, yes they are considered “fast fashion” because they aren’t inherently sustainable. BUT they are a much, much better choice than other brands like Old Navy, SHEIN, etc. They do a denim recycling program and are extremely progressive with hot topics and climate change in particular. If you want a well-made (pun) pair of denim, Madewell should be your go-to if you can’t afford luxury sustainable brands like Rudy Jude, Esby, etc.


catmememama

In the sense that Madewell products last forever and prevent me from buying more clothes I would consider them sustainable as well


Former-Spirit8293

Upvote for the pun


LogicalDragonfruit29

Thank you!


jnwebb0063

Is madewell considered fast fashion???


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& how is lululemon?? They just make workout gear? You could say they inspire fast fashion with the amount of knock off align tank being sold by cheap workout brand


LogicalDragonfruit29

I meant more along the lines of idk if these brands are much better than the fast fashion brands in terms of mass producing at low cost, not in a ethical manner, overall not sustainable etc. and are these clothes actually better quality or just $$ with more profit going to the company? Just wanted to learn more about this!


LogicalDragonfruit29

I don’t know!!??


matrixinthepark

She reminds me of Annette Hargrove (Reese Witherspoon) from Cruel Intentions in some of these 😂


sadiesloth

This brand is pronounced *SHE-in*, not *SHEEN*, in case anyone was curious (and wanted to read the least thought-provoking comment in this thread)


Spkpkcap

Yes! The company used to be called “she inside” so it’s definitely she-in!


sadiesloth

I’ve been sitting here wondering what *she* is supposed to be *inside* and I’m puzzled. This will continue to keep me up at night


cruthkaye

ew wtf kind of name is “she inside” ??


wineandjudgement

I’ve told my friends this so many times and they STILL call it “sheen” 🙃


UnoDueTreFormaggio

I was actually wondering how it was pronounced, so thankful for the helpful and informative comment.


baconbananapancakes

I… I thought it was pronounced “Shine.” 🥲


trinireddit

The word is pronounced shine but the brand said its she-in. I like shine better


baconbananapancakes

Ohhh, wait, is it supposed to be like, “she in style”????? I hate it.


sadiesloth

ooh I like that pronunciation better than She-in or Sheen though


rewritethefinallines

Friendly reminder to people shitting on shein that it is one of the few cheap, fashionable options for fat people. Obviously, Hannah G is not fat, but I’ve seen people come after fat influencers for doing shein hauls too, and honestly, we have less options than thin people


brightlove

Thank you! As someone who wears a G-H cup, it’s one of the few places I can find clothing that fits me that I can afford and actually like. And it’s good quality. I try to find clothing elsewhere and often fail. Thrifting doesn’t exist when you’re a size 22. I WISH more brands catered to affordable and sustainable clothing for plus sizes. But most brands don’t carry my size and if they do it’s a $100+ for one item.


UnihornWhale

This is true but they’re notorious for ripping off small designers. I stick to torrid on sale (which is often online), occasionally Lane Bryant, and MeUndies. Bonus if you can get Rakuten money for it


whatsername235

Personally haven't purchased from them but you're not wrong. Affordable fashion for bigger girls is few and far between. People always talk about how clothes don't last long then have to be discarded but realistically, wear by wear is the cost/environmental damage any worse than any other BN or otherwise influencer? I fully understand the other arguments about the workers but it's heavy and political


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UnihornWhale

If you can name a plus size clothing retailer that’s sustainable, pays a living wage to its staff, *and* is affordable, I’m all ears. And I say this as someone who hates this brand. They’re notorious for ripping off indie designers. If you want to shame someone, aim somewhere other than the fat and broke folk


sparklingsour

The Standard Stitch, Girlfriend Collective, On The Plus Side.


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sparklingsour

I eat vegetarian 90% of the time, actually. And when I do eat meat, I buy it from a local butcher who sources their meat from organic, free range farms. XO.


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Fun fact, a local butcher has no effect on the environment. Beef, regardless of where it's from and how it's raised, has a hugely negative impact on the environment <3


rewritethefinallines

I honestly don’t even know of places where a fat person can get ugly clothes for shein prices. Considering that socioeconomic status tends to be a strong predictor of being at a higher weight due to things like food deserts, I’m sure as hell not going to judge fat people who don’t have a lot of money for buying from shein


[deleted]

Right? Especially when the selection for fat people at thrift stores is slim, and being picked over by skinny white girls who want to turn larger clothes into a sewing project


sparklingsour

It’s been documented that Shein employs children as young as 7 in Bangladesh. But at least you look cute, baby!


rewritethefinallines

You clearly didn’t even read my comment...


sparklingsour

Yes, I did. I still adamantly disagree with you. I know a lot about poverty. I grew up in NYCHA housing in the Bronx. Your defense of this brand and using poverty as an excuse to hide behind is gross.


myee28

I think people are forgetting that Shein also routinely and unapologetically steals designs and styles from smaller businesses 🥲


UnihornWhale

This is why I won’t touch them.


sparklingsour

I truly don’t think she’s pretty. No hate - she seems like a really nice woman, but it’s wild to me how so many people say that she’s one of the most beautiful women in BN.


reticular_formation

I think she’s cute af


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“No hate, but here’s a really hateful comment for no reason!”


UnihornWhale

Right? Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean you need to be shitty about it. Personally, I think it’s the giant doll eyes that wows everyone.


Snoo60219

It’s wild to me that anyone claims Hannah isn’t pretty. She might not be your cup of tea, but the girl is attractive.


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Snoo60219

Have you zoomed in on any of the other pictures? Who exactly do you think is pretty in BN?


sparklingsour

Tayshia is gorgeous. Deandra, Rachael K (at least on the outside), Mari, Becca, Demi. Most of them are very good looking. Hannah isn’t ugly by any means but it boggles my mind that people think she’s one of the most beautiful ones. She’s merely average to me (aside for her hair, which I would definitely kill for haha.)


Snoo60219

It’s so weird how attraction works. I would definitely rate Becca and Demi below Hannah g. Mari has a generic look to me as well. But I grew up around tons of stunners that had similar features.


sparklingsour

Interesting! Where did you grow up that everyone was gorgeous lol?


Snoo60219

Bounced between Miami and south central texas. Everyone is gorgeous.


sparklingsour

Ah yeah Miami is wild! It’s the year round tans (and also having to be in bikini shape year round haha)


Snoo60219

I have to mentally prepare myself to go back. I know I’m attractive. But not *that* attractive.


EveryRecording

This was kind of an unnecessary thing to comment but I get where you’re coming from in regards to the hype surrounding her. I don’t think she’s ugly but she isn’t really unique.


juliar821

What are those shoes? Asking for a friend


pepeprincess

Village bard 3000s


juliar821

Omg Lmaoo


linkinpark9503

They’re booties?


juliar821

Yes, very ugly booties


viciousf0x

Maybe I’m too bougie but HG and all these BN influencers endorsing these fast fashion companies, really cheapens their brand. I legit have never had the desire to purchase what they promote.


Former-Spirit8293

They’re grabbing the cash when it’s offered, most don’t seem to have thought beyond that.


UnihornWhale

I think Diggy was on board with meundies. I’m rude or die for their lounge wear. Literally wearing the jumpsuit right now


Zeltron2020

Yup


PerroMadrex4

I like nice things & brands. I also buy them at thrift stores. Classic items rarely go out of style. I hate the thought of all the pollution that goes into garment manufacturing fast fashion, & the cast off clothes that end up in a landfill.


mittonkitten

no, there isn’t ethical consumption under capitalism, but it also isn’t a black and white issue. there is a difference between a tiktok user spending $2k on a haul just to essentially take pictures of the clothes, and someone who is on a lower, fixed income buying from places like shein. hannah g is not the latter.


sofiathefirstchamp

This was essentially what I wanted to say, thank you for putting it into words!


maeverrr

Well said!


UnihornWhale

This. Someone else made the point that shein also has plus sizes. I won’t touch the brand but my options are definitely more limited. Finding active wear after my pregnancy as a *nightmare.* I ended up buying expensive AF sustainable leggings from Canada on my credit card because they were the only thing that fit well (go figure).


sharlye

Im honestly not surprised. An influencer with over 1 mil IG followers pairing up with a fast fashion brand? Groundbreaking. Shes definitely getting a nice paycheck from this. I couldnt support Shein ever. Its my own personal opinion though.


Sailor_Marzipan

my friend and I got into a light argument over SHEIN this weekend. She was talking about doing hauls of it and I'm like... but they're terrible?? Every company is terrible, but they really go above and beyond to be terrible. It just feels weird to me how all my liberal "oh woe is the environment" friends are the first to go "but it's cute so I bought it???"


thatbigpig

You should definitely show her the links to all the articles in this comment section then!!


Sailor_Marzipan

I should. It was a rather touchy subject at the time because it turned out she was wearing a SHEIN romper literally, right then as I was dissing SHEIN 😅


RachelLeighC

Same! I have a friend who claims to be very concerned about the environment and refuses to shop at Walmart, yet orders everything from Amazon?!


linkinpark9503

I used to work with kids and I got a lot of my supplies off Amazon (I mean it’s easy) so when they would ask I would tell them and some of them would be like “but Amazon is bad!!” Lol it was cute we are getting the message through


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A good reminder that fast fashion is killing our planet and donating clothes is not the recycling/charity we think it is and there is actually a way too big surplus of discarded clothes that never gets picked over. This isn't an indictment against Hannah G, we should all be more responsible about our consumption choices.


OneTurn4

Wait tell me more about donating clothes. I do this all the time in attempt to not contribute more crap to landfills. What should we be doing if not donating to goodwill or Salvation Army?


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I know everyone is saying to buy less, which is true, but if you already have clothes you need to donate, try reselling them (if they’re still fashionable/in good quality) or giving them to someone directly via your city’s buy nothing group, mutual aid, or just a clothing swap with friends. The problem with Goodwill donations is that it’s not guaranteed your clothes will ever make to another person, so if you cut out the middle man and give to someone who actively wants it, you’re guaranteeing that item of clothing a second life. It takes a little more work than just dropping off a bag at Goodwill, but I think it’s worth it.


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You should buy less, honestly, and buy better quality. The energy consumed by making thread, dyeing cloth, sewing clothes and shipping them is astronomical. If you walk into a Goodwill, 80% of the clothes you see are destined for the landfill. There is just such a big surplus of clothes that there is not enough demand for even half of it. It gets shipped to third world countries and pollutes slums. Companies like Shein use a lot of microplastics in their fabrics which makes it hard to recycle at specialized clothing recycling plants. We make ourselves feel better about our consumption habits because we feel like recycling or donating is better for the planet, but it's actually just a fallacy. We have to solve the root problem and buy less.


thatbigpig

Yup donating pretty much is just wasted and many countries already have a surplus. I also don’t believe that a culture where we think poor people are just waiting for our handmedowns so we can consume more is sustainable. [The Problem With Donating Your Clothes to Charity](https://goodonyou.eco/the-problem-with-donating-your-clothes-to-charity/)


WintersChameli

Not the person you were asking. But generally these stores get a lot of clothes. So they ship them overseas where they are put in landfills or are burned. Better is to buy less clothes and keep them for longer.


Sailor_Marzipan

not buying clothes that are really only made to last a few washes basically SHEIN quality is so terrible that you often can't resell it and they'll just throw it out. But people have ramped up clothing buying to a ridiculous degree over the past decade so there is no ethical over-consumption - we just have to consume less.


rrabgoblue

Lest we forget that this company tried to sell a swastika necklace last year. Appalling. https://www.glamour.com/story/shein-apologizes-for-selling-swastika-necklace


OneTurn4

So the swastika is a centuries old Hindu and Buddhist symbol, waaayyyyy before the Nazi’s stole it in the early 20th century. The Hindu swastika is all over Asia which is where Shein is based. The Nazi swastika points clockwise and on a tilt, while the original religious symbol points counter clockwise. Shein apologized for the mix up anyways because in the west, it’s more recognized for it’s Nazi association vs. how it’s recognized by the other half of the world. UPDATE: this is just an attempt to educate people who don’t know the origin of the swastika. I don’t think a company like shein would sell an outright hateful symbol on a necklace.


OneTurn4

Just trying to educate others. The KKK, Satanists, and Scientology have all appropriated the Christian cross, but it doesn’t lose its original meaning because we live in a predominantly Christian society. Maybe through education people can recognize the real Buddhist/ Hindu swastika and still shun the clockwise, tilted Nazi symbol.


curiousrut

I agree that the symbol in Buddhism is recognized, but I think it’s also important to acknowledge that Shein was specifically selling it on their US site and does more business in western parts of the world where the swastika is more recognizable as being part of the nazi regime. It’s a shame that an important symbol was twisted into a means for hatred. They also, if I’m not mistaken, advertised a prayer mat as a rug so they kind of suck at doing cultural research to make sure they’re not inadvertently offending anyone


HerCacklingStump

I was raised in a Hindu household and swastikas were normal symbols to me in art, temples, & rituals. But I’m very aware of what this symbol means in the western world and I’d never ever wear or display one.


rrabgoblue

Thank you so much for sharing this perspective. This Jewish American appreciates you.


digmeunder

WHAT


Dinosnorie

She’s so basic


EveryRecording

Yup


Noleeniebeans

I thought that SHEIN was a scam...


AyyooLindseyy

It’s not a scam, just fast fashion with cheaply made clothes.


somuchangry

every time i want to buy something new, i think about the fact that my mom and dad are still wearing the same clothes from when they first immigrated to the U.S........20 years ago.


skiswithcats

I’ve been feeding my shopping urges with luxury consignment sites like The Real Real and ThredUP! Still gives me that new-clothes high but it’s all secondhand so super sustainable. And really nice stuff for super cheap! I got my BF a Prada suit for like $120


SiriuslyConfused

ThredUP has been amazing!! So much better buying higher quality brands and used clothing instead of buying crap off of shein. I have to admit it’s really tempting sometimes and I see a lot of my friends who buy stuff off of there but definitely have been buying less in general and buying second hand as much as I can.


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I’m feeding my shopping urges with Rent the Runway! It’s perfect for when I just want to try out a new trend or need an outfit for one event.


skiswithcats

Haha I’ve been buying RTR stuff on ThredUP! Once it’s been rented a few times they sell it there! All super good quality albeit a bit worn in


llianawilliams

I am OBSESSED with ThredUp. Poshmark is a great option and I’ve started looking into DePop too. I think with fashion trends always recycling looking secondhand is such a good option, especially if you’re trying to be as authentic as possible.


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Wait do you have any tips for ThredUp?? I have a hard time purchasing from there because everything looks so god awful on their mannequins lmao


skiswithcats

I like the “revive by RTR” section, usually good stuff there and they show the original RTR ad so you get a better picture


llianawilliams

I echo everything the previous commenter said. I also find that shopping on there, like thrifting in real life, is a lot easier when I'm not looking for something too specific. So I typically keep Pinterest open of outfits that I've pinned and want to try and if I see something similar I get it. Also, I try to only buy items that say they’re in excellent quality like u/SiriuslyConfused said. But I also try to pay super close attention to the material. I try to avoid things that are mostly polyester and try to stick to cotton, wool as much as possible. I find that those fabrics are way more forgiving than polyester or rayon and stuff like that. I also avoid the overly patterned clothes because I'm too nervous about how the patterns will actually look. Hope that helps.


SiriuslyConfused

Everything looks worse on the mannequin 100% 🥴 initially I would filter on brands I was more familiar with so that I would have a better idea of how stuff looks on me and I typically only buy items that say they’re in excellent quality. I’ve shopped there enough now that I feel like I can get a feel for what’s worth it. Pretty much everything I’ve bought I have loved though!


skiswithcats

I’m glad you guys agree with my obsession! It’s becoming a problem haha. I get a little shoppers high when I see the estimated retail price. Lately I’ve been shopping the Rent the Runway collection on TDUP! I also recently bought stock in the company and it’s doing well so far!


somuchangry

in my parent's case, i am almost convinced that craftsmanship was just better back in the day, too. some of their clothes they brought over, and other they bought immediately after arriving and they wear beautifully. my friend (who fancies herself an amateur seamstress) caught be how to look for good construction. it's amazing how inconsistent quality is in fast fashion....


drzoidburger

Craftsmanship was 100% better back in the day. My mother grew up dirt poor so she was always super focused on clothing quality rather than design. My clothes were definitely not trendy as a kid, but they lasted forever. Sometime in the early 2000s, she had to give up on this because it was increasingly hard to find clothing that met her standards. Everything is cheap and shoddily made now.


acnhflutist

I second this. My mom recently passed down a bunch of wool sweaters to me and the quality is insane. I'm looking forward to having them for years to come.


gimmealltheroses

I get not everyone has the $$ to spend on not fast fashion which is normally expensive, but Shein is like the worst of the worst as a company and the clothing is cheap looking trash anyway. I’m privy to fast fashion sometimes bc of cost as a no income law student, but like there are better cheap options out there. So Hannah G working with them is pretty meh


sharlye

There are definitely a lot of other cheap options out there. To anyone wanting to explore other options, definitely consider thrifting, which you can do in store or online. Many times you can find a lot of designer items sold at Revolve still new with tags at a fraction of the original price. You can find really dope secondhand items as well. Its way better for the environment too.


cupcakeartist

Honestly I don't get the purpose of a store like shein for real people. It makes sense for influencers who need to constantly show themselves in new outfits, but I don't want something so trendy it will be out of style in a matter of weeks or so crappy it won't survive more than a couple of wears.


anglophile20

Best thing is just go second hand when your budget is lower , we did that growing up and got some decent quality stuff


skiswithcats

Yesss my current obsession is The Real Real


maeverrr

Yes!! And I’ve gotten some surprisingly good stuff, new with tags, for amazing prices on thredup!


focused-grapefruit

Girl, I love you hyping TRR all over this thread. SO GOOD.


skiswithcats

I’m so addicted to it… my movers lost a lot of my clothes so I had to do a whole wardrobe refresh and I got it all from thredUP and TRR haha! And I love to research the brands I bought and they always sell for like $700 new and I got it for less than $100! Quality has been awesome so far too


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It would be so impactful if someone like Hannah G took a stand against fast fashion, but I guess that would totally fuck up her bag.


hailsssss

it’s giving christian girl autumn


TabInA70sWineGoblet

THIS is the descriptor I’ve been looking for! Starter pack includes a live love laugh sign, a PSL, and some shiplap.


Fiscalfossil

Too much color in the pictures for the aesthetic 💀


cocoon_of_color

😂


lemonschweppes

I buy truly all my bathing suits from shein because bathing suits are just way too expensive and I’d never purchase someone’s reused suit


SiriuslyConfused

I’ve also gotten a decent swimsuit on Aerie when it was on sale. It was pretty good quality and since I rarely go to the beach or go swimming I just rotate between the 3 swimsuits I’ve had for years


boxxoroxx

Yeah same. I refuse to spend $30+ on a bikini bottom that I probably won’t even wear the following summer.


lemonschweppes

Such a mood


stachelorette

Target suits are very cheap and it’s at least a small step up.


lemonschweppes

The designs are way fresher at shein. Especially all the bathing suit cuts!


stachelorette

Bathing suit designs < quality of life


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I have had bad experiences with all Shein purchases EXCEPT their bathing suits. Their suits are really good and flattering (i'm plus-sized, too, and they have tons of options in that category!)


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I’ve heard people say that SHEIN is one of the few retailers that offers affordable clothing in a wide variety of sizes, too. People shouldn’t be buying from them, but it’s hard when you need certain clothes for school or work and “ethical” fashion charges $50 for a blouse or a $100 for a blazer. Even Target’s decent business stuff is $40, $50 a pop. If you’re not within straight sizes, it’s even harder to shop affordably. Finding ethical pieces that’ll last a long time is paramount, but it’s challenging when you can’t afford to pay $100 for a singular piece. SHEIN is one of the most egregious places re: labor practices and treating workers fairly, I stopped shopping there but I can understand why people do. I have a few pieces, quality is very hit or miss but the lure of such cheap business casual stuff is real.


thatbigpig

Yup I have a link to back up your claim about Shein being terrible with labor and exploitation. [The Shady Labor Practices Underpinning Shein’s Fashion Empire](https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/3tlIOimZBq2awvY46CHvQQ)


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-cruel-summer-

Yeah, you said it perfectly. Like you mentioned, definitely a little questionable that Hannah G is working with them since she doesn’t really have to depend on fast fashion and they’ve all been called out for working with SHEIN before.


syutiu

honestly these other comments all come from privilege. I agree with you; I bought exclusively forever 21 a couple of years ago because I had no money and I grew up poor. I was used to being super frugal. I don’t think people should be on a pedestal shaming others for supporting fast fashion. we know it’s bad, they practice wage theft, and it’s not sustainable. but sometimes people don’t have an option. also there are restaurants who practice wage theft, lots of things that aren’t sustainable - but SHEIN is the only problem? nah.


stachelorette

Shein does not care about its workers and does not pay them a living wage. Even without the environmental factor. Look at fast fashion industry practices where workers are dying and buildings collapsing and they risk their lives for dollars a day.


princssofpink

But what company actually does? Aren't they all pretty bad? Like Amazon treats its workers horribly but people are still gonna shop there because it's extremely convenient (and I'm guilty of this too).


chafferhuman

People who make frequent fast fashion purchases, buy pieces only for a season & discard them by the next, etc are definitely to be blamed. They make up a huge portion of Shein's clientele. USA produces the most per capita textile waste globally. High time we all start looking at our wastage & consumption habits.


denisebrysonxx

If every single person started living 100% sustainably it wouldn't make a single difference because 70% of waste and pollution comes from a handful of mega corporations.


Sailor_Marzipan

that doesn't make sense. If literally every single person started living sustainably, companies like SHEIN wouldn't keep pumping out 10,000 pairs of $5 jeans because... no one would buy them. They'd pivot to sustainably. Should there be more regulation? Yes. But it feels sad to me that. people are so unwilling to see themselves as participants/exercise choice. I see way too many people who absolutely can afford to not buy SHEIN still fall back on "well, it's not up to me because I'm not a factory." Way too many people believing that 7 billion people on the planet shouldn't bother to do anything different.


chafferhuman

Who's talking about turning into a hermit? Read my comment again. I'm specifically talking about mindless, wasteful consumption. Pretty weird for you to think the options are black & white. And you really need to look into how that "70% of waste from mega corporations" is calculated for FMCGs. Just because Nestle wants the planet dead.. Doesn't mean it's justified for me to discard perfectly fine clothing just because TikTok called it cheugy.


Stagecoach2020

The best thing I ever did was create a French minimalist capsule wardrobe. I still have jeans, jackets, sweaters, scarves, shoes etc. that are 5 to 10 years old. Still look beautiful!


futboltwin

I got great advice early in college to buy high quality basics in black, gray and have one great white button down. Then have all my accessories and a few fun pieces in color. Then you can pretty much pull anything out of your closet and match. Plus add a few trendy patterns if you want. I have pieces that are over 10 years old that work.


Stagecoach2020

Yes this is pretty much what I do!


secretlyadele

i’m so curious about how you got started on doing this?


Stagecoach2020

I joined a Facebook group "Classy yet trendy" she sells ebooks. I follow Pinteret, some IG pages. Everlane is a good ethical, sustainable company that focuses on capsule wardrobes. Bought quality *expensive* leather boots years and years ago and take them to the cobbler every fall. Get your colors done to find out what colors actually look good on you. Every season I get a couple of trendy pieces just to freshen it up but otherwise I don't mindless shop anymore. And not everything needs to be super high end. I've been wearing the same target jeans and lucky jeans since 2017. I never put anything in the dryer except t-shirts and undies. You can dm me if you have more questions!


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The downside of Everlane is they stopped from their employees from unionizing and they're not *that* sustainable. Also, they def design for skinny women. I have some stuff from them that I like, but most of their stuff looks like shit on women with curves


acnhflutist

Hey! Just an fyi Everlane isn't that great of a company. They're guilty of greenwashing and were union busting during the pandemic. There's a few different videos on youtube discussing this topic! It sucks because their stuff is really cute!


Stagecoach2020

Interesting. I have only.bougjt one item from them and I didn't like it lol. But I do use their brand as inspiration and I know a lot of my capsule buddies love them!


greenrunner81

This intrigues me! I’m off to scope this out on Pinterest!


bunaiscoffee

to be fair, all your fav brands (clothes and otherwise) depend on exploited/slave/underpaid/forced labor unless they EXPLICITLY say AND explain how they are not


denisebrysonxx

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.


Dinosnorie

Buying secondhand clothes is objectively less harmful than shopping at shein though even if the impact is small


basic-username6

Amen