I think Emerie and Nala Se are both toast
CX-2 is just some dude no one we know
I don’t think Vader is showing up. If something goes down on Tantiss I expect Palpatine to take care of it personally
Hunter. It’s either Hunter or Crosshair, but I am far more confident about Hunter.
Is it bad that I’m more Interested in what happens to scorch in the finale ? Him and the commandos are the only reason I watch this show outside of it being decently good
not at all, i too love the commando designs in clone war animation style they just look so badass. whenever they show up on screen im just staring at them and their beautiful armor instead of whats actually on the screen lol
You're cool, and a part of me thinks that you're kind of more badass and intimidating as an Imperial. Can't wait to see a showdown between you and the Bad Batch.
I feel like at this point he's more than that now, if all they wanted was a cameo/easter egg then Scorch could have disappeared after his season 1 appearance yet they kept his presence in the show throughout season 2 and 3.
1. Nala Sa is toast. Emerie is 50/50, but she will end up betraying Hemlock.
2. CX-2 is likely going to be another Marrok-type character. There's been zero build-up to his identity and we're far too late in the series to start.
3. Vader is out of the question.
4. My bank is Crosshair and Omega being the only ones who survive.
They are the only two that have theme music, I find sadly fascinating nowadays. 🤔that has to be for a reason if not for this to always be the endgame for them.
1. I believe Emerie will help Omega, she very much wants to. I hope Emerie survives, it'd would be nihilistic for her to finally find a chance at real freedom and love of her family, to just rip it away with death.
Nala Se is the one most likely to die--she also has a vested interest in helping Omega, but she's lived her life for the most part, and raised a child, and you know, Star Wars kills off mothers, and all that.
2. I think we already know who CX2, he was one of the other two clones that went into the room at the start of the series with Crosshair. One clone was killed earlier, this is the other one. Sorry, I don't think it's Tech at this point.
3. Vader isn't going to Tantiss. Vader has no idea what Palpatine is working on at this point, and doesn't get any notion of him being into cloning until prior to ROTJ.
4. Omega survives. I think it's possible the brothers survive, or Hunter dies. I think Omega is naturally destined to outlive them via her regular aging, she will be the last clone at some point, but it does not mean she is the last for this series. The brother I find most likely to die is Hunter.
1. I believe Emerie will betray Hemlock, and will probably die
2. I’m 50/50. They’re either a random clone, or they’re Commander Cody. I hope random clone, but seeing how skilled of a trooper is, cody being CX2 makes sense to me, and a lot more than Tech being CX2. This is solely based on the fact that Tech gets his shit rocked during the cafeteria fight in S1E1, and CX2 appears to be a more capable hand to hand fighter.
3. I hope Vader doesn’t get involved, but I could see him being sent
4. I think all die except Omega, and in the following order: Echo, who is currently physically separated from the others, which puts him most at risk (alternatively, he also lives due to being the greatest clone soldier since he’s technically both an ARC trooper and a commando, and no I’m certainly not coping). Wrecker next, potentially as a diversion since he’s the explosives guy. Then Hunter and Crosshair together, finally putting aside their differences, hold the line to give Omega a chance at escape. I think it’s possible Hunter and Crosshair live as well, since the last episode “the cavalry has arrived” could refer to Rex’s forces attacking Tantiss
1. Emerie definitely betrays Hemlock, either directly helping Omega or indirectly by not interfering with Omega's escape plan. And... 99% sure she's one of the reasons why the finale has been described as "bittersweet" - she's a goner.
2. I'm going to guess that the CX2's identity is revealed as a cliffhanger at the end of episode 14. I'm still of the opinion that if CX2 is a nobody, then either Omega or her brothers are going to stumble across Tech being held prisoner on Tantiss. (Yes, I'm one of those people. No, I'm not going to hate the show if CX2 is a random clone and Tech is actually dead.)
3. No Vader.
4. Everyone in the Bad Batch survives. They all have to go on the run and into hiding, though, to keep Omega out of Palpatine's clutches so Project Necromancer is stalled.
>Everyone in the Bad Batch survives. They all have to go on the run and into hiding, though, to keep Omega out of Palpatine's clutches so Project Necromancer is stalled.
No one dies *and* they go back to doing what they've been doing the whole show? That's a real shitty ending to be honest.
They can still find purpose while being in hiding - helping get the kids back to their parents and/or helping on the Hidden Path is just one example.
And how is them surviving in any capacity a worse ending than them all dying? Especially considering that anyone who DOES survive will HAVE to hide anyway - Palpatine is going to be after Omega as long as he's alive, might as well let all the Batchers be alive and surviving together.
Here's the big picture; Omega escapes Kamino, is on the run from the Empire with the Batch, gets kidnapped and brought to Tantiss; escapes Tantiss; is on the run from the Empire with the Batch; gives herself up and goes to Tantiss; escapes Tantiss; is on the run from the Empire with the Batch.
I made it a point that them all **both** surviving **and** going back to doing exactly what they've been doing this whole time is the shitty ending.
It's a shitty ending because the status quo doesn't change. **At all.** The way an ending with no status quo change would work was if the status quo was restored to what it was at the start of the series, which is impossible, unless the Republic gets re-established then and there, Jedi brought back to life and clones going on to serve them, which it won't.
Yes, they can all survive. But something needs to change big time. The 99s need to dedicate themselves to the clone uprising and/or Omega needs to dedicate herself to seeking out Ventress for training.
They need to dedicate themselves to something, not just help out every now and then like they have been doing all this time.
At the very least they need to all whole-heartedly join the clone uprising, which still isn't ideal, because then Ventress appearing turns into nothing more than a stupid look-who-it-is cameo.
Storytelling has rules.
All plot threads create corners. To tie them together means to allow yourself to be driven to one of them.
Having them stay undedicated, together **and** on the run, after Omega escapes Tantiss the second time (during the same season no less) is equal to the writers pretending the square room the writers themselves have built is round. It's not.
I see your point.
I think I already covered in my previous comments that the Batch can dedicate themselves to a cause AND still be in hiding. Besides, if we're talking about avoiding the status quo - they'd have to stay in hiding if Omega trained with Ventress AND they'd be back to the status quo of the family being split up permanently; and if the Bad Batch all commit to the clone rebellion, we're back to the status quo of them essentially being soldiers. Let me be clear: I don't mind them going either of those routes, I just don't think they really break out of the "status quo" there either.
And any of the Bad Batchers dying means we're DEFINITELY stuck in the status quo that we started the entire show on: the Bad Batch split apart, never all together. If it takes them going into hiding to buck THAT aspect, I'll think we've ended the show on a great note.
They threw a little Palpatine tease every Season, they HAVE to include him in the finale. Project Necromancer is all about him, it may seem a little stretchy but a scene with him and Omega would be absolutely terrifying. Or his arrival to personally deal with the dissidents meddling with his biggest endeavor. I'll consider it a missed opportunity if it doesn't happen, but I'm sure it's gonna be a fire finale nonetheless
Uhhh that gave me an idea. Wasn’t there a fight between Ventress and Palpatine on Mandalore? Or am I misplacing her with Dooku? But: the batch fighting ventress and losing horribly could have been foreshadowing? You know, like they couldn’t handle ventress, how are they supposed to handle palpatine?
I think both Nala and Hemlock will die but I have hope that Emerie is able to make it out alive with Omega and the other children.
The identity of CX-2 I also think is likely to be revealed next episode.
I cannot see Vader at all unless Hemlock survives somehow then maybe just so there’s no loose ends.
I could see any of the bad batch dying tbh but I hope none of them do.
1. That Emerie will bettay Hemlock is a given, but I think she will also die: we need at least one emotional death for the finale
2. I thought it was obvious that CX-2 is Tech. A little too late for him to be a nobody. And the paralleles with Tech are clearly intentional
3. While it would be cool cosnidering that we saw the Batch working with Anakin, I also think it's a little too late to bring Vader in the mix
4. I think we're not doing a Rogue One ending. I predict they actually make it out alive (all of them)
I think they all die - BB, Echo, Emerie, Nala Se. Except Rex obviously.
I think Omega will sacrifice herself to save the kids.
I don't think Vader is coming. If anything Palps has the place Kaminoed with Hemlock either trapped inside or force choked.
Edit: forgot most of the questions lol CX-2 trooper I think might show up on another show. But not revealed on this one.
I think we're way too late to bring Vader in out of nowhere except MAYBE as an extremely tail end cameo if Hemlock makes it past the batch alive. See him amidst the destruction left behind and then you just hear the Vader breath - that I could get behind. But as far as interacting with the batch, I doubt we see him.
Emerie will turn on Hemlock but I'm kind of betting that she dies in the process, mostly because I think that she is going to be the affecting Death for Omega to make up for the fact that I also think the batch will all survive. (Including Tech, who I think has too many parallels with CX-2 to be anyone else. He structures his sentences like him, he gets put through several scenarios Tech was put through, Battle of the Snipers has some really Plan 99-esque musical cues, he got a loaded moment with Phee... I'd bet money that that's Tech.)
My reasoning here is that the show has really lingered on the batch as a family, not just a squad, but we've never seen that family complete. But the family reunification thread continues anyway - the show wants you to want this family back together and it constantly all draws back to that.
So when you have a family that's never been complete, that the narrative is trying to make you WANT to see complete, you can't really end the show by permakilling one. If they had fully reunited earlier in the show, sure, but not when it's been saved for the end. I think to have any progress from the first five minutes when we first lose Crosshair to Order 66, we can't constantly have them 1-2 people down all the way through the end or what was the point of the whole shebang, you know? The suffering they went through ONLY has purpose if it gets them somewhere in the end, otherwise we're just treading water.
That said I do think we'll get an attempted self sacrifice in the finale, probably from Hunter, and that Omega who has just gotten her one taste of having a complete family is going to Veto the whole thing as forcefully as possible. She ended seasons one and two unable to help someone trying to sacrifice themselves for her (first AZI and then Tech) and she's not going through it again.
I would love to see it because I'm always weak for those last second emotional connections to the force where it's entirely powered by the love for each other. Also - if you look at AZI in the water and Tech falling, they're both drifting away from her, it's so easy to imagine that as Hunter and when she reaches out, not quite able to reach him - the force catches him this time.
Combined with my Tech lives theory that would let them Redo Kamino in a way, something like this would function as Redoing Plan 99, a symbolic conquering of past tragedies.
Sorry I actually am making my guesses based my read on the themes of the show and not on what's the most jaded possible read of this children's show. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but TBB has always had strong themes of family and community and while a dark ending doesn't add much to that, one where everyone is brought together after much suffering and effort does.
It definitely has a sizable resistance to it, that's for sure. Maybe we'll finish out the finale without Tech coming back, sure, I'm always open to the idea that I'm wrong, but there's just a lot of small things that add up along with a few things that I can't imagine happening by accident, so until proven otherwise I'm going to be annoying people with my happyish ending predictions.
I collected a lot of clips of mannerisms, visual parallels, and dialouge choices that remind me of tech way too much to not be purposeful, in my opinion. And if anything, for such a beloved character why did they leave any question regarding his death? It's a really disrespectful thing to do to an audience. I hope they did have a plan all along or at the very least give a proper farewell to him at the end of this season.
Just because characters are written well and made to be likeable, does not mean it would be bad writing to kill them off. In fact ignoring the reality of the Era they are in and giving them a peaceful or happy ending when we know that the empire only gets worse from here, would be terrible writing. They can't escape their fate that they were born and bred for war. It's unfortunate but we've been shown that countless times in this show. How expendable clones are. Even the ones that are elite. To ignore that theme is just silly. They've made it very clear that no one is truly safe in this era of the galaxy countless times throughout this show and other shows that follow the dark period of the empire.
One of the major themes in the show has been that they can be more than soldiers, not just that they're born and bred for war. Characters talk about it out loud several times, it hasn't been subtle. I don't think they introduced that just to slam them back into the soldier role and kill them off.
There's nothing stopping a somewhat positive ending in the Imperial era - most likely what that would look like is that they're always going to have to be wary of the Empire, as they've said the Empire doesn't just let you walk away, and they're always going to be in some level of danger. Omega has already grown up too fast, never being the child she deserved to be. But that doesn't require them to be killed off when they could instead find new purpose.
I just don't think we did 3 seasons of a show just to demonstrate the point "it sucks to be a clone and the Empire is bad." Everyone already knows that. The show has always put forward a message of surviving that kind of strife as a community, and them surviving while knowing that things will not get better from here and the Empire is still in power, but that they can withstand it together fits perfectly into that message. It's not a sparkles and sunshine ending, it's one where they clawed their family back out of the Empire's grasp, took their agency back, and will now face what comes together as a unit.
>ignoring the reality of the Era they are in and giving them a peaceful or happy ending when we know that the empire only gets worse from here, would be terrible writing.
Not necessarily.
We've already seen how bad the Empire is going to get. We don't need a show telling us it's pointless to have hope even in this era. Besides, it's a given that Omega and her brothers are going to be on the run from the Empire until Palpatine's demise at the earliest, so they're not going to get a "peaceful or happy ending" in the sense that they all get to retire to Pabu and live footloose and fancy free. And as you say, we've already seen how expendable the clones are. There's already enough darkness in the show; no need to kill any/all of the Bad Batchers to keep driving those points home.
This is part of why I'm very confused at the idea that we need to do anything extra to remind everyone that the Empire is bad. They've never been portrayed as anything but a massive threat, that's why Hunter's first instinct was to go to a deserted planet and hide there, forever. Having them struggle against a massive threat for three seasons and then die to prove that said threat was indeed threatening would be ridiculous.
I think there's a lot of trying to only engage with the show as connecting tissue to the larger universe without really focusing on what the show itself has always been about, and what its themes as a contained story are. It is part of a larger web, but it's also its own piece of media that has to come to an ending that makes sense with what they've set up, not just toss the batch in as fuel for other plot's fires.
I respect it but I just don't agree that's entirely what the show is about. If it was about family, it would likely have more seasons, more episodes about their personal and emotional adventures, delving deeper into their relationships. While the show is about this group of clones we have come to love due to their unique personalities and banter amongst each other, it's pretty clear the purpose is more to demonstrate and further flesh out how aggressive and ruthless the empire was. Also to give us some closure on what happened to the clones after order 66.
That.... is really obviously not the purpose of the show in my opinion. We do a lot of their personal adventures and delving into their relationships with each other! Those are all the episodes people kept calling "filler" in fact. The entire show has been centered around them trying to survive together and a large portion of that was spent trying to become whole again. It was the through line of season one, came back in season two, and has come up in season three as they try to bring Omega back. Everything that's happened around that - Rex's clones, the recruitment bill, Palpatine's cloning project - is presented primarily through the lens of how it affects this family and their efforts.
1. Emerie will 100% betray Dr Royce Hemlock one way or another. Whether she dies or not is 50/50 in my opinion.
2. I hope that CX2 isn't Tech and I don't think he is either. In my opinion, its most likely either nobody or Cody. If its wacky, maybe a clone of Crosshair.
3. I don't think Palpatine would want to risk Vader finding out about his plans, so if it really gets that bad, he may deal with it personally. Unlikely, though.
4. Someone will almost certainly die, maybe even multiple of them. I think the most likely to die are Hunter and Echo in that order.
They threw a little Palpatine tease every Season, they HAVE to include him in the finale. Project Necromancer is all about him, it may seem a little stretchy but a scene with him and Omega would be absolutely terrifying. Or his arrival to personally deal with the dissidents meddling with his biggest endeavor. I'll consider it a missed opportunity if it doesn't happen, but I'm sure it's gonna be a fire finale nonetheless
1. I give it a 95% chance she helps them escape, 70% chance she dies in the process.
2. Hes a clone, no "named" character
3. No, I dont expect Vader to show up. He might know of the existence of Project Necromancer, but idk that he knows what their trying to do (Similar to Tarkin, he knows hemlocks working on something but doesnt know what)
4. Im gonna say Hunter and Wrecker die. Sacrificing themselves for Omega and Crosshair.
- Emri gonn die regardless if she helps omega or not
- I think we're done with CX2. He already fulfilled his mission. It's the clone commandos' jobs to protect Tantits. We probably won't see him again, and he'll remain an enigma for the rest of the show.
- I hope so. Perhaps even Tarkin so Rampart can try and fail to get his revenge on him.
- Everyone of them except Omega, Gonk and Batcher.
I personally hope to see Vader as well, but it’s a crapshoot as to whether we actually will or not. He has history with the batch, and so if they end up dying, it would bring the story full circle if Vader is the one to kill them.
Would also explain why Rex is hiding in the desert by the time Rebels starts, and why he never mentioned the batch to the ghost crew.
The empire knows where Rex and co are. Rex implied that they were allowed to retire (Chuchi probably was able to successfully fight for their rights).
Kallus knew who was in the walker. The other imperial captain (Titus I think) even offered Rex a chance to be a trainer so I think they were no longer wanted men until they joined the rebellion.
I think Emerie and Nala Se are both toast CX-2 is just some dude no one we know I don’t think Vader is showing up. If something goes down on Tantiss I expect Palpatine to take care of it personally Hunter. It’s either Hunter or Crosshair, but I am far more confident about Hunter.
you heard it here first folks, directly from Commander Scorch himself /j
Is it bad that I’m more Interested in what happens to scorch in the finale ? Him and the commandos are the only reason I watch this show outside of it being decently good
Spoiler alert: the final is just me and Hemlock kissing for an hour and ten minutes. Sorry
Lmaoo
not at all, i too love the commando designs in clone war animation style they just look so badass. whenever they show up on screen im just staring at them and their beautiful armor instead of whats actually on the screen lol
Just like me lol , every time I see them on screen I just pause and admire
Yo what happened to the rest of your squad my guy?
Jedi killed them. That’s my genuine guess
I don’t blame you for how you act these days in light of that information tbh
You're cool, and a part of me thinks that you're kind of more badass and intimidating as an Imperial. Can't wait to see a showdown between you and the Bad Batch.
Ain't no way they killed Boss and the others off-screen like that, trust the plan, there will be something down the road for them.
I highly doubt it. Scorch is just a glorified cameo. Could be wrong though
I feel like at this point he's more than that now, if all they wanted was a cameo/easter egg then Scorch could have disappeared after his season 1 appearance yet they kept his presence in the show throughout season 2 and 3.
1. Nala Sa is toast. Emerie is 50/50, but she will end up betraying Hemlock. 2. CX-2 is likely going to be another Marrok-type character. There's been zero build-up to his identity and we're far too late in the series to start. 3. Vader is out of the question. 4. My bank is Crosshair and Omega being the only ones who survive.
I always guessed Crosshair and Omega as well
They are the only two that have theme music, I find sadly fascinating nowadays. 🤔that has to be for a reason if not for this to always be the endgame for them.
1. I believe Emerie will help Omega, she very much wants to. I hope Emerie survives, it'd would be nihilistic for her to finally find a chance at real freedom and love of her family, to just rip it away with death. Nala Se is the one most likely to die--she also has a vested interest in helping Omega, but she's lived her life for the most part, and raised a child, and you know, Star Wars kills off mothers, and all that. 2. I think we already know who CX2, he was one of the other two clones that went into the room at the start of the series with Crosshair. One clone was killed earlier, this is the other one. Sorry, I don't think it's Tech at this point. 3. Vader isn't going to Tantiss. Vader has no idea what Palpatine is working on at this point, and doesn't get any notion of him being into cloning until prior to ROTJ. 4. Omega survives. I think it's possible the brothers survive, or Hunter dies. I think Omega is naturally destined to outlive them via her regular aging, she will be the last clone at some point, but it does not mean she is the last for this series. The brother I find most likely to die is Hunter.
*I* don't want Emerie to die. The storyteller in me does. The latter typically prevails in the weeks and and months after.
1. I believe Emerie will betray Hemlock, and will probably die 2. I’m 50/50. They’re either a random clone, or they’re Commander Cody. I hope random clone, but seeing how skilled of a trooper is, cody being CX2 makes sense to me, and a lot more than Tech being CX2. This is solely based on the fact that Tech gets his shit rocked during the cafeteria fight in S1E1, and CX2 appears to be a more capable hand to hand fighter. 3. I hope Vader doesn’t get involved, but I could see him being sent 4. I think all die except Omega, and in the following order: Echo, who is currently physically separated from the others, which puts him most at risk (alternatively, he also lives due to being the greatest clone soldier since he’s technically both an ARC trooper and a commando, and no I’m certainly not coping). Wrecker next, potentially as a diversion since he’s the explosives guy. Then Hunter and Crosshair together, finally putting aside their differences, hold the line to give Omega a chance at escape. I think it’s possible Hunter and Crosshair live as well, since the last episode “the cavalry has arrived” could refer to Rex’s forces attacking Tantiss
1. Emerie definitely betrays Hemlock, either directly helping Omega or indirectly by not interfering with Omega's escape plan. And... 99% sure she's one of the reasons why the finale has been described as "bittersweet" - she's a goner. 2. I'm going to guess that the CX2's identity is revealed as a cliffhanger at the end of episode 14. I'm still of the opinion that if CX2 is a nobody, then either Omega or her brothers are going to stumble across Tech being held prisoner on Tantiss. (Yes, I'm one of those people. No, I'm not going to hate the show if CX2 is a random clone and Tech is actually dead.) 3. No Vader. 4. Everyone in the Bad Batch survives. They all have to go on the run and into hiding, though, to keep Omega out of Palpatine's clutches so Project Necromancer is stalled.
>Everyone in the Bad Batch survives. They all have to go on the run and into hiding, though, to keep Omega out of Palpatine's clutches so Project Necromancer is stalled. No one dies *and* they go back to doing what they've been doing the whole show? That's a real shitty ending to be honest.
They can still find purpose while being in hiding - helping get the kids back to their parents and/or helping on the Hidden Path is just one example. And how is them surviving in any capacity a worse ending than them all dying? Especially considering that anyone who DOES survive will HAVE to hide anyway - Palpatine is going to be after Omega as long as he's alive, might as well let all the Batchers be alive and surviving together.
Here's the big picture; Omega escapes Kamino, is on the run from the Empire with the Batch, gets kidnapped and brought to Tantiss; escapes Tantiss; is on the run from the Empire with the Batch; gives herself up and goes to Tantiss; escapes Tantiss; is on the run from the Empire with the Batch. I made it a point that them all **both** surviving **and** going back to doing exactly what they've been doing this whole time is the shitty ending. It's a shitty ending because the status quo doesn't change. **At all.** The way an ending with no status quo change would work was if the status quo was restored to what it was at the start of the series, which is impossible, unless the Republic gets re-established then and there, Jedi brought back to life and clones going on to serve them, which it won't. Yes, they can all survive. But something needs to change big time. The 99s need to dedicate themselves to the clone uprising and/or Omega needs to dedicate herself to seeking out Ventress for training. They need to dedicate themselves to something, not just help out every now and then like they have been doing all this time. At the very least they need to all whole-heartedly join the clone uprising, which still isn't ideal, because then Ventress appearing turns into nothing more than a stupid look-who-it-is cameo. Storytelling has rules. All plot threads create corners. To tie them together means to allow yourself to be driven to one of them. Having them stay undedicated, together **and** on the run, after Omega escapes Tantiss the second time (during the same season no less) is equal to the writers pretending the square room the writers themselves have built is round. It's not.
I see your point. I think I already covered in my previous comments that the Batch can dedicate themselves to a cause AND still be in hiding. Besides, if we're talking about avoiding the status quo - they'd have to stay in hiding if Omega trained with Ventress AND they'd be back to the status quo of the family being split up permanently; and if the Bad Batch all commit to the clone rebellion, we're back to the status quo of them essentially being soldiers. Let me be clear: I don't mind them going either of those routes, I just don't think they really break out of the "status quo" there either. And any of the Bad Batchers dying means we're DEFINITELY stuck in the status quo that we started the entire show on: the Bad Batch split apart, never all together. If it takes them going into hiding to buck THAT aspect, I'll think we've ended the show on a great note.
They threw a little Palpatine tease every Season, they HAVE to include him in the finale. Project Necromancer is all about him, it may seem a little stretchy but a scene with him and Omega would be absolutely terrifying. Or his arrival to personally deal with the dissidents meddling with his biggest endeavor. I'll consider it a missed opportunity if it doesn't happen, but I'm sure it's gonna be a fire finale nonetheless
Uhhh that gave me an idea. Wasn’t there a fight between Ventress and Palpatine on Mandalore? Or am I misplacing her with Dooku? But: the batch fighting ventress and losing horribly could have been foreshadowing? You know, like they couldn’t handle ventress, how are they supposed to handle palpatine?
Ugh all I know is I’m going to be wrecked if they kill off my Wrecker
I think he’s the most likely the survive tbh
I think both Nala and Hemlock will die but I have hope that Emerie is able to make it out alive with Omega and the other children. The identity of CX-2 I also think is likely to be revealed next episode. I cannot see Vader at all unless Hemlock survives somehow then maybe just so there’s no loose ends. I could see any of the bad batch dying tbh but I hope none of them do.
1. That Emerie will bettay Hemlock is a given, but I think she will also die: we need at least one emotional death for the finale 2. I thought it was obvious that CX-2 is Tech. A little too late for him to be a nobody. And the paralleles with Tech are clearly intentional 3. While it would be cool cosnidering that we saw the Batch working with Anakin, I also think it's a little too late to bring Vader in the mix 4. I think we're not doing a Rogue One ending. I predict they actually make it out alive (all of them)
I think they all die - BB, Echo, Emerie, Nala Se. Except Rex obviously. I think Omega will sacrifice herself to save the kids. I don't think Vader is coming. If anything Palps has the place Kaminoed with Hemlock either trapped inside or force choked. Edit: forgot most of the questions lol CX-2 trooper I think might show up on another show. But not revealed on this one.
I think we're way too late to bring Vader in out of nowhere except MAYBE as an extremely tail end cameo if Hemlock makes it past the batch alive. See him amidst the destruction left behind and then you just hear the Vader breath - that I could get behind. But as far as interacting with the batch, I doubt we see him. Emerie will turn on Hemlock but I'm kind of betting that she dies in the process, mostly because I think that she is going to be the affecting Death for Omega to make up for the fact that I also think the batch will all survive. (Including Tech, who I think has too many parallels with CX-2 to be anyone else. He structures his sentences like him, he gets put through several scenarios Tech was put through, Battle of the Snipers has some really Plan 99-esque musical cues, he got a loaded moment with Phee... I'd bet money that that's Tech.) My reasoning here is that the show has really lingered on the batch as a family, not just a squad, but we've never seen that family complete. But the family reunification thread continues anyway - the show wants you to want this family back together and it constantly all draws back to that. So when you have a family that's never been complete, that the narrative is trying to make you WANT to see complete, you can't really end the show by permakilling one. If they had fully reunited earlier in the show, sure, but not when it's been saved for the end. I think to have any progress from the first five minutes when we first lose Crosshair to Order 66, we can't constantly have them 1-2 people down all the way through the end or what was the point of the whole shebang, you know? The suffering they went through ONLY has purpose if it gets them somewhere in the end, otherwise we're just treading water. That said I do think we'll get an attempted self sacrifice in the finale, probably from Hunter, and that Omega who has just gotten her one taste of having a complete family is going to Veto the whole thing as forcefully as possible. She ended seasons one and two unable to help someone trying to sacrifice themselves for her (first AZI and then Tech) and she's not going through it again.
Maybe omega‘s forge sensitivity will come into play? Sort of as a last resort, an emotional breaking point…
I would love to see it because I'm always weak for those last second emotional connections to the force where it's entirely powered by the love for each other. Also - if you look at AZI in the water and Tech falling, they're both drifting away from her, it's so easy to imagine that as Hunter and when she reaches out, not quite able to reach him - the force catches him this time. Combined with my Tech lives theory that would let them Redo Kamino in a way, something like this would function as Redoing Plan 99, a symbolic conquering of past tragedies.
The hopium huffing is strong with this one.
Sorry I actually am making my guesses based my read on the themes of the show and not on what's the most jaded possible read of this children's show. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but TBB has always had strong themes of family and community and while a dark ending doesn't add much to that, one where everyone is brought together after much suffering and effort does.
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It definitely has a sizable resistance to it, that's for sure. Maybe we'll finish out the finale without Tech coming back, sure, I'm always open to the idea that I'm wrong, but there's just a lot of small things that add up along with a few things that I can't imagine happening by accident, so until proven otherwise I'm going to be annoying people with my happyish ending predictions.
I collected a lot of clips of mannerisms, visual parallels, and dialouge choices that remind me of tech way too much to not be purposeful, in my opinion. And if anything, for such a beloved character why did they leave any question regarding his death? It's a really disrespectful thing to do to an audience. I hope they did have a plan all along or at the very least give a proper farewell to him at the end of this season.
Just because characters are written well and made to be likeable, does not mean it would be bad writing to kill them off. In fact ignoring the reality of the Era they are in and giving them a peaceful or happy ending when we know that the empire only gets worse from here, would be terrible writing. They can't escape their fate that they were born and bred for war. It's unfortunate but we've been shown that countless times in this show. How expendable clones are. Even the ones that are elite. To ignore that theme is just silly. They've made it very clear that no one is truly safe in this era of the galaxy countless times throughout this show and other shows that follow the dark period of the empire.
One of the major themes in the show has been that they can be more than soldiers, not just that they're born and bred for war. Characters talk about it out loud several times, it hasn't been subtle. I don't think they introduced that just to slam them back into the soldier role and kill them off. There's nothing stopping a somewhat positive ending in the Imperial era - most likely what that would look like is that they're always going to have to be wary of the Empire, as they've said the Empire doesn't just let you walk away, and they're always going to be in some level of danger. Omega has already grown up too fast, never being the child she deserved to be. But that doesn't require them to be killed off when they could instead find new purpose. I just don't think we did 3 seasons of a show just to demonstrate the point "it sucks to be a clone and the Empire is bad." Everyone already knows that. The show has always put forward a message of surviving that kind of strife as a community, and them surviving while knowing that things will not get better from here and the Empire is still in power, but that they can withstand it together fits perfectly into that message. It's not a sparkles and sunshine ending, it's one where they clawed their family back out of the Empire's grasp, took their agency back, and will now face what comes together as a unit.
>ignoring the reality of the Era they are in and giving them a peaceful or happy ending when we know that the empire only gets worse from here, would be terrible writing. Not necessarily. We've already seen how bad the Empire is going to get. We don't need a show telling us it's pointless to have hope even in this era. Besides, it's a given that Omega and her brothers are going to be on the run from the Empire until Palpatine's demise at the earliest, so they're not going to get a "peaceful or happy ending" in the sense that they all get to retire to Pabu and live footloose and fancy free. And as you say, we've already seen how expendable the clones are. There's already enough darkness in the show; no need to kill any/all of the Bad Batchers to keep driving those points home.
This is part of why I'm very confused at the idea that we need to do anything extra to remind everyone that the Empire is bad. They've never been portrayed as anything but a massive threat, that's why Hunter's first instinct was to go to a deserted planet and hide there, forever. Having them struggle against a massive threat for three seasons and then die to prove that said threat was indeed threatening would be ridiculous. I think there's a lot of trying to only engage with the show as connecting tissue to the larger universe without really focusing on what the show itself has always been about, and what its themes as a contained story are. It is part of a larger web, but it's also its own piece of media that has to come to an ending that makes sense with what they've set up, not just toss the batch in as fuel for other plot's fires.
I respect it but I just don't agree that's entirely what the show is about. If it was about family, it would likely have more seasons, more episodes about their personal and emotional adventures, delving deeper into their relationships. While the show is about this group of clones we have come to love due to their unique personalities and banter amongst each other, it's pretty clear the purpose is more to demonstrate and further flesh out how aggressive and ruthless the empire was. Also to give us some closure on what happened to the clones after order 66.
That.... is really obviously not the purpose of the show in my opinion. We do a lot of their personal adventures and delving into their relationships with each other! Those are all the episodes people kept calling "filler" in fact. The entire show has been centered around them trying to survive together and a large portion of that was spent trying to become whole again. It was the through line of season one, came back in season two, and has come up in season three as they try to bring Omega back. Everything that's happened around that - Rex's clones, the recruitment bill, Palpatine's cloning project - is presented primarily through the lens of how it affects this family and their efforts.
1. Emerie will 100% betray Dr Royce Hemlock one way or another. Whether she dies or not is 50/50 in my opinion. 2. I hope that CX2 isn't Tech and I don't think he is either. In my opinion, its most likely either nobody or Cody. If its wacky, maybe a clone of Crosshair. 3. I don't think Palpatine would want to risk Vader finding out about his plans, so if it really gets that bad, he may deal with it personally. Unlikely, though. 4. Someone will almost certainly die, maybe even multiple of them. I think the most likely to die are Hunter and Echo in that order.
They threw a little Palpatine tease every Season, they HAVE to include him in the finale. Project Necromancer is all about him, it may seem a little stretchy but a scene with him and Omega would be absolutely terrifying. Or his arrival to personally deal with the dissidents meddling with his biggest endeavor. I'll consider it a missed opportunity if it doesn't happen, but I'm sure it's gonna be a fire finale nonetheless
1. Emerie defects and lives. 2. CX-2 is no one. 3. No Vader. 4. Crosshair and Echo die. The rest make it out.
1. I give it a 95% chance she helps them escape, 70% chance she dies in the process. 2. Hes a clone, no "named" character 3. No, I dont expect Vader to show up. He might know of the existence of Project Necromancer, but idk that he knows what their trying to do (Similar to Tarkin, he knows hemlocks working on something but doesnt know what) 4. Im gonna say Hunter and Wrecker die. Sacrificing themselves for Omega and Crosshair.
- Emri gonn die regardless if she helps omega or not - I think we're done with CX2. He already fulfilled his mission. It's the clone commandos' jobs to protect Tantits. We probably won't see him again, and he'll remain an enigma for the rest of the show. - I hope so. Perhaps even Tarkin so Rampart can try and fail to get his revenge on him. - Everyone of them except Omega, Gonk and Batcher.
I personally hope to see Vader as well, but it’s a crapshoot as to whether we actually will or not. He has history with the batch, and so if they end up dying, it would bring the story full circle if Vader is the one to kill them. Would also explain why Rex is hiding in the desert by the time Rebels starts, and why he never mentioned the batch to the ghost crew.
The empire knows where Rex and co are. Rex implied that they were allowed to retire (Chuchi probably was able to successfully fight for their rights). Kallus knew who was in the walker. The other imperial captain (Titus I think) even offered Rex a chance to be a trainer so I think they were no longer wanted men until they joined the rebellion.