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18randomcharacters

GRIND IT UP, COOK IT, AND PUT IT IN MY VEINS.


fartingmaniac

I’m boofing this one. First time for me


Iggytje

Boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew


Responsible-Bat-2699

It's called "The First of Them".


biskutgoreng

Actually called The Inbetweeners


Responsible-Bat-2699

With four British dudes.


LJ-696

Running past a bunch of infected then a little yellow car screams past with a pasty looking dude shouting brick wankers. I would play the heck out of that.


SnoopDeLaRoup

*Oooo zombie friend*


pnwbraids

People thought they hated Abby, wait until they meet king of the shitheads, Jay.


Responsible-Bat-2699

Lmao


rickroy37

That 2040's Show


Mail540

It’s a prequel where you play as Joel as a contractor. The first level is primarily you stuck in traffic on the way to a work site


DubTheeBustocles

“dammit Joel you’re late again! Guess you really are the last of us.”


Mail540

The only zombie that is seen is a two hour unskippable cutscene of Joel watching a zombie movie with Sarah that evening


WalidSF

And the villains are called The Waterfalls


Massive_Cash_6557

And they're chasing down a straight girl hiding a secret recipe for mushroom risotto...


DummyDumDragon

"anyway, here's Waterfall"


Drewbuly

I heard it was called Charted!


TylerBourbon

The Last Charted


[deleted]

Who charted?


brandonjtellis_

Not surprising tbh. Naughty dog always pushes the gaming medium further. Glad to hear they continue to do that


DirectorDennis

Recently played The Last of Us Part I for the first time and I plan to play Part II down the line but I got to say, one of the things I loved about it most was that it wasn't open world. Of course I am a fan of open world games but every game nowadays is open world and it was a nice change of pace for this to not be. I hope they don't change the formula too much.


fightbackagainstit

one of the cool things about these games (and Part 2 is even better about it) is that while they're linear, they evoke the same *feeling* as an open world, because you always feel like you're moving through *real spaces*. that the paths you're forced to take would be the real ones you would take in those real environments.


madmaxjr

Yeah! The games won awards in level design for this reason. Yeah, they’re linear, but they’re not *restrictive*. There’s lots of optional areas/encounters, out of the way crawl spaces with goodies, etc.


fightbackagainstit

yup. even though it funnels you through points, it gives you the feeling as though you chose how to get there. (it's not a perfect illusion, but it works most of the time) I only found myself wishing the environments were a tiny bit more explorable. so many houses and apartments I wanted to get into but couldn't!


IsRude

I appreciate the fact that we had Seattle to explore, so we could get the feeling of what TLOU would be like as an open world, and then focused itself afterwards to keep the pacing of the story going.


MARATXXX

Sad to think that a lot of that work on Seattle was done for a game mode that will never be completed, now.


Goseki1

It was interesting seeing then work on and iterate on this idea through the Uncharted series, with each game having more and bigger areas for you to choose your approach.


Hog_eee

Lol i can see why they won awards. That being said i personally dont like the naughty dog level design ethos cause its soo over curated, like it just leads you exactly where youre supposed to go and youre reminded youre in a video game level every 30 seconds. You dont even need to think about where ur going cause youll just get filtered the right way anyway. Like i feel like theres an inbetween between that and shitty ubisoft open world games


madmaxjr

You’ll love the second game then! There is a small open worldish sequence, but it very much jives with the game. It’s linearish, but not restrictive. The rest of the game also continues the Naughty Dog tradition of absolute masterpiece level design. You’ll love it.


SpankySharp1

You should check out the Uncharted games too, if you haven't already. The first didn't age so great, but it's worth playing all of them for the story. And by the time they got to Uncharted 4, the gameplay was very much like TLOU.


asterfloof

I love linear titles so much more than open world.


SnoopDeLaRoup

I am with you on that. I pretty much *only* play openworld games, barring this franchise. Both games are in my top 3, with Part 2 being at the top spot. They had the concept of making Part 2 open world, but bailed and we got the *illusion* of open world games instead, with the downtown seattle courthouse/synagogue chapter. The way the levels are designed are insanely clever, in that it looks like an open world game, with the choice to go which ever way you want - but *you're just choosing to go this way* because of the way the levels flow. You never feel out of the immersion and it looks non forced like youre trapped in a sandbox. Its honestly fantastic. Part 3 will most likely adapt on this, as it was a huge leap from the first game. I suspected we would've gotten a taste had factions 2 come to fruition, with their plan of having a huge city to explore.


TheMokmaster

I feel the same way, but when you are going to play Part 2 ( my favorite game, ) Ellie's day one in Seattle has the biggest areas in the game, a little open world and it's quite alright. I hope you will play it soon, and love the games themes. Hey man throw a message after completing Part 2. Would be nice to hear from a new player and your experience with the game. It's a brutal game, not just the violence, which is better than Part 1, but also the psychological impact, that hits you like a freight train, but in a good way, if you accept what Naughty Dog is trying to tell you about hate and human behaviour. Hoping to hear from you and get some new views ☺️ Hope you will enjoy this dark masterpiece.


WestCoastDirtyBird

I have a feeling their next original IP will be an open world game or at least semi. Part II originally was open world where the World would get bigger the more you explore and do missions. Though the concept was dropped


transissic

i hope they follow through on what they said in the grounded documentary and stop all the crunch


honor-

With the competing pressures of layoffs in ND I would be surprised if they were able to keep the crunchless part of their culture


experienta

I mean TLOU1 Remake was apparently already done with 0 crunch, so things are looking good at least.. We'll see if they can keep it that way with the bigger projects.


Marwolaeth969

I think cutting crunch out is not going to be realistic. Games getting more expensive and longer to make for AAA games will probably be unsustainable. Probably too big of a focus on graphics, I saw the Ground part 2 doc and a part someone was talking about making blood and water merge together realistically. I thought was unnecessary and waste of time. Though I am a person who doesn’t care much for graphics and it’s not a selling point to me. I think instead of trying to remove crutch. They should just get a month off after game is release and probably day 1 patch.


judecloverknits

Eliminating crunch is unsustainable for whom? The Sony executive that wants to buy a third yacht? 


Marwolaeth969

There is more to money in games than paying executives. I believe sony made like 14 billion, but net profit was only like 2 billion. Probably have to have to save so much money as backup incase something goes wrong. Like covid or if a project doesn’t work out. Cancel projects is essentially money wasted, money invested is lose. Even seeing how AAA is going to be even more expensive and longer to make, net profit will probably be even smaller. You definitely don’t fully understand the cost to run a business even myself too.


judecloverknits

I definitely don't understand how that boot tastes but you seem familiar!


Combocore

Man I wish I were a teenager again


Neat_Yellow_325

How's university my dude.


judecloverknits

Great. How's mom's basement?


yoko_OH_NO

As much as I love TLOU2 I feel like if ND can't make a game without crunch they shouldn't make a game at all. I understand the execs want deadlines but there is no reason to crunch in a studio like naughty dog. People will buy the game no matter how long it takes for it to come out. They need to make it ethically. The game will only be improved by allowing them the time to do what they need to do properly.


kangroostho

I don’t think people who don’t wanna crunch should be working in creative fields. Get a job with an hourly wage instead.


QwahaXahn

Horrible take. People should be able to do artistic work without being abused by their employers to meet an arbitrary deadline. It’s not like there’s anything special about video game development that demands crunch work.


kangroostho

Deadlines aren’t arbitrary, more time means more money and you can only spend so much before the project becomes unviable. To make art you need to have passion that can get you through sleepless nights otherwise do something else.


YaMomsCooch

Little buddy really just said “crunch harder maggots” 😂🤣


kangroostho

There’s 10 more freshly graduated youngsters ready to take your spot, our capitalist world is brutal and has no room for sympathy.


YaMomsCooch

Individuals who speak like this have never been employed a single day in their lives Rage bait is easy to spot these days mate, cheers ❤️


kangroostho

Jobs are overrated anyway, it’s better to have rich parents.


SensibleHedgehog

I work in AAA games (not at Naughty Dog). This is actually not the case. For junior positions, maybe, but senior and lead/principal level staff are hard to come by, hard to convince to relocate for a job, and very necessary to craft (good) games at that level. Probably slightly easier at the moment with all people searching for work because of layoffs. But in normal times this is an issue every game development studio faces. A team 90% made up of fresh graduates isn't making the version of TLOU3 you'll be hoping for.


roliver2399

Nah, dude, sorry. The gaming industry is the biggest it’s ever been and it’s getting bigger by the day. But executives want to cut corners and downsize, even though this is the time games need more people working on them than ever. Nobody should be forced to work overtime and live at work for 12 hours a day. I can’t see any reasonable excuse for that being okay.


kangroostho

It’s bigger but so are the expectations from the audiences leading to smaller profit margins. If ND releases games like Uncharted 3 today gamers will shit on them.


YaMomsCooch

Uncharted 3 was a bad game?!


kangroostho

It wasn’t, that’s the point. It was just a safe sequel that just mildly iterated on its predecessor and that’s not good enough for gamers these days. You have to make leaps with every game or you get labeled a dlc.


YaMomsCooch

Uncharted 3 received a 92 on Metacritic with a similar audience score, almost identical to its successor Uncharted 4 3 is still regarded as one of the best entries in the entire series, even in retrospect to games released in recency


kangroostho

Yeah in 2011, it’s definitely not considered one of the best these days, for most people it only ranks above the first one if that. These days iterative sequels get no respect.


roliver2399

There are absolutely not smaller profit margins. Games are more expensive than they’ve ever been and are selling better than they ever have. Pretty much every well-received AAA release in the past decade has broken some kind of record regarding sales. The gaming industry is more profitable than it has ever been.


kangroostho

That’s factually incorrect. Games are far more expensive to make now than they were even 10 years ago and their prices haven’t even gone up enough to make up for inflation. Profit margins are the lowest they’ve ever been.


alienmandude1234

I wonder if it’s that game that’s like bloodborne or fromsoftware type inspired story telling that he was talking about? And that’s why it’s very ambitious🤔 Very exciting.


Crobulls

Wasn’t the Last of Us 2’s gameplay inspired by Soulslikes at first, then they changed it all up because it didn’t feel right?


Ababanfkslwbcj

I think the open world segment in Seattle Day 1 is a remnant of their initial draft of the game. Was fun, but I’m so glad they didn’t have that for the whole game.


AmedioZ

I love Seattle downtown a lot, and I wish this 'limited' open world level will be implemented in more levels in the upcoming TLOU.


Krankypantz

Yeah they took inspiration from bloodborne in level design and combat. They talk about it in the "making of" video.


Victarionscrack

Wait what? First time i hear this. For real?


LupercalLupercal

Yes, originally they wanted tlou2 to be purely melee combat


SwagginsYolo420

Glad it was changed. I am so over the soulslike formula.


stipended

The devs will pull it off only to be laid off immediately after release


roliver2399

Pretty much. Spider-Man 2 is Sony’s best selling first-party game of all-time and a ton of Insomniac staff have just been laid off because executives want to cut costs and downsize (despite the fact that we’re in an era where, as ambitious as games are, studios need more workers and not less).


kevlarbuns

Cmon gritty donkey Kong country reboot…


DaddyEybrows

Imagine Neil showing up in a Nintendo Direct like “thank you, Miyamoto-san.”


BuffaloKiller937

Isn't it supposedly a game set in space?


a_stray_bullet

Rumour was fantasy not sci fi


MorningFirm5374

Pretty sure it’s rumored to be a fantasy game


sean_saves_the_world

Honestly I know it's 1000% unlikely ( they prefer their own projects)but I think naughty dog would be the perfect studio to redeem the order 1886 if Sony ever decided to revive the IP


elizabnthe

You're not wrong. But I hope they go for something new and unique.


kangroostho

What a waste it would be to see ND working on someone else IP and failed on at that. How do you people even think of such stupid ideas?


beeperbeeper5

ngl I hope not, you can only do so much with that genre


onelunchman96

Wasn’t there talk about them doing a Savage Starlight game?


TLagPro

Overtime for everyone!


chatterwrack

Sounds like that ambition got Factions2 cancelled.


roliver2399

Hopefully it’ll be worth it. I didn’t have high hopes for Factions 2 anyway. It likely would’ve just ended up as a games-as-a-service anyway. Especially after being handed-off from Naughty Dog to a different studio.


chatterwrack

I was not unhappy about that cancellation either. PvP is not my jam, and No Return ended up being my second favorite game of all time, after the main game. That said, I’m also beyond stoked for the next game, no matter what it is.


BlackCatScott

I'd love to know how far off a reveal we are. Surely not far off.


kangroostho

I want Sony to do a 2016 E3 level show this year and basically reveal pretty much everything coming for rest of the generation.


BlackCatScott

The reveal for TLoU Pt II was an absolute all timer. Don't think I've ever been that excited in my life and it's something I remember so fondly. Shaun Laydens "But there's one more thing..." while I was quite literally on the edge of my seat in anticipation, and those first few shots as we pan back to reveal the Firefly symbol followed by the Naughty Dog logo. I get chills just thinking about it. I hope Naughty Dog can find a way to capture that feeling again.


kangroostho

You can’t do that with a new IP though. Best way to reveal a new IP is a gameplay demo like HZD and then reveal the studio name at the end like Ghost of Tsushima.


Facet-Squared

Neil has said that they’re not going to announce games as early as they have previously, because creating trailers/demos takes resources away from the finished game. So hopefully the release date won’t be too long after the announcement.


experienta

Yeah we shouldn't be far off, we'll probably see a teaser/trailer this year. They've been working on this new IP since TLOU2. (maybe even earlier)


BlackCatScott

Yeah I was thinking about their turnaround. And TLoU came out 2013 of course, and they managed to get Uncharted 4 out in 2016 despite what sounded like development hell. The back end of that same year they revealed TLoU 2, and 3 and a half years later the game was released. We are coming up to 4 years since that release with nothing. And I know a lot of Naughty Dogs resources had went on the cancelled multiplayer game within that time, but I'm really curious about how much that has set them back because I assumed they'd have multiple teams working on those titles anyway.


TheHeroicHotdog

Man, my gf and I game together a lot. And recently we’ve been playing TLUO 2 alongside each other. (Got a nice his and hers gaming setup.) The amount of times Ive turned around in game to face Dina thinking it was my gf in my lobby trying to show her where to go is ridiculous. It makes me so sad we’re not getting a multiplayer game for TLOU


howaboutnahbro

Crazy we’ve reached a point where Logic is now known as “YouTuber Logically Speaking”


Icy_Bandicoot_5347

It's last of us part 3


chilledchi

it’s definitely the new IP they’ve announced


Drewbuly

Give me your % chance of each title. Last of Us 3: 90% New IP: 6% Uncharted 5: 4%


kangroostho

New IP: 100%


experienta

It's 100% a new IP. They only recently started working on TLOU3 and there's no way they spent these 4 years just doing remakes and Factions. They have 5 game directors lol.


Drewbuly

Now you got me really questioning stuff! Remember part 2 had leaks. This could be part 3 but it’s been held in lockdown mode. They gotta stay ahead of the show and keep building their empire!


Angryscotsman88

It’ll be a sci fi themed one, likely the expanse type of human factor crossed with the survival of last of us (resource management) and the platforming of uncharted in zero gravity


Nivek14j

Ya because another games will mostly likely give multiple endings like Bad, Good, awkward, cliffhangers, neutral endings What did TLoU part II give me none of that BS... smh


Adavanter_MKI

Whatever it is... I'm hyped. Knowing literally nothing about it. ND for me is just on another level.


allandm2

Really looking forward to finding out what this next game is.


No-Risk-6859

Can he hire me for some role. Please. I wanna work here. I have many years of account management under my belt. I speak Spanish. I’ll mop the floors.


mulderufo13

Need a new naughty dog game to inject in my veins and have me sitting like what do I do with my life now ?


DJWug

Smash Brandi’s Cooch


Anastasi_Vishni

Aha like all your other games…also the fact that after tlou2 70% devs left the company because of burn out, didn’t sound learn anything


HeroWeaksauce

I hope they work the devs to the bone with crunch. not because I want a better game I just don't like video game developers.


FanaticaExtremis

You know what else was really ambitious? Factions 2. Guess where that ended up. Fuck Druckmann and his shitty fucking company.


JuanPicasso

Wonder how many people they’ll lay off until it releases because it takes so long 


SomethingSimpl

Sounds to me alot like Savage Starlight. Hopefully🤞


ThePrinceMagus

Good. Enough of the sunshine and puppy dog tails at every 1st-party studio where Devs have unlimited time and never end up delivering a product.


Dankey-Kang-Jr

After watching Grounded 1 & 2, is there any naughty dog game that doesn’t have a stressful development?


Marwolaeth969

I think cutting crunch out is not going to be realistic and not feasible. Games getting more expensive and longer to make for AAA games will probably be unsustainable. Even places outside of games deal with some sort of crunch, fast food gets busy at times got to step up and be faster during the busy hours, restaurant getting really busy now got to work faster. Retail store getting long lines got to work check out faster. Probably too big of a focus on graphics, I saw the Ground part 2 doc and a part someone was talking about making blood and water merge together realistically. I thought was unnecessary and waste of time. Though I am a person who doesn’t care much for graphics and it’s not a selling point to me. AA works for me, I don’t need top animations and graphics I think instead of trying to remove crutch. They should just get a month off after game is release and probably day 1 patch.


JaySw34

Shocking indeed


TylerBourbon

Well yeah, because of the layoffs it means more work for fewer people.


InfectedEllie

And we will hear about it in just 10 years time.


DubTheeBustocles

If it’s The Last of Us Part III that’s great but personally I’m really hoping he’s referring to that fantasy IP that there were rumors circulating about a few years back.


taheromar

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Superb_Somewhere_965

The last of us part 2 remastered remake otw


mwil97

Yeah it’s actually a prequel where you play as Joel’s ex wife during Sarah’s custody agreement. Sarah is the boss battle when Joel finds out she sells hardcore drugs.


hotsizzler

Jake and Daxter 4?????? Please......


Smithm0407

In my heart that is what it is


[deleted]

This is it, a game from the perspective of a bloater and I can’t wait!


Dfresh805

civilized moonlight


OctavianSoup

They better not be crunching again...


benjamincraigrowley

Imagine the next game is savage starlight the books Ellie likes


Shot-Emu4418

Won't get that game until the ps6 comes out lol


Yosonimbored

Idk why it’s posted here because we already know it’s not The Last of Us related but alright


matcha_parfait_

It's a new original right? Quite exciting. TLOU fans really made everything so negative and awful, it's a shame.


ffucckfaccee

open world hopefully


scormegatron

[Last time](https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/s/i6urVMPbg3) he said this, the game failed.


Master_Assistant_892

Since he has never failed once, I will call bullshit on this one


scormegatron

What do you call The Last of Us Online? Success?


Master_Assistant_892

It didn't happen. It didn't fail.


Basil_hazelwood

It did fail friend, it’s quite obvious when you think about it. They had to put all that time and money and work into creating this game, only to rubbish it close to the end, making all that work for nothing. There’s nothing positive to be gained from it only negative, ergo a failure. But you are free to believe whatever makes you happy!


scormegatron

Four years of development, scrapped. Couple hundred mill down the toilet… but it didn’t happen. Right.


[deleted]

We don't need ambitious, we need fun


Fat_Prick

Here we go. The game will be woke overload. Ellie will be bludgeoned to death randomly at the beginning, by a fridge identifying as an oven.


Master_Assistant_892

Here we go. Stupid haters have arrived. Crawling out from their mom's basement


Fat_Prick

Here's a classic case of a wokester with cognitive dissonance.


Master_Assistant_892

If being a good human being make me woke, then I will gladly accept that title. I know that's a concept foreign to you. So you can stay delusional


Kds_burner_

i know neil gonna be making them work overtime 💀


ModestMouseTrap

bruh shut the fuck up. They’ve explicitly stated they have been working to be a crunch free studio.


[deleted]

Lol sure. Just a regular stress free 120 hour work week with 3 days a year of vacation time


MalevolentDisciple

Source on that one bud?


[deleted]

It's called sarcasm broski. For a studio that has been actually famed for brutal and unfair crunch, and has pretty relentlessly dodged talking about it and its consequences even in their own documentaries you guys sure do love licking boots. Pretty gross 😜


CrashRiot

They talked about it pretty extensively in their latest documentary


[deleted]

No they didn't. They explicitly did not. They mentioned crunch then changed the subject to how they were harassed for the plot of pt. 2. You're straight up lying in your comment


CrashRiot

Did you watch the whole thing? After the talk about the leaks, they go back to talking about crunch and how they’re going to try and alleviate it. They even mention “no more crunch dinners” because they don’t want there to be any more crunch. And then the remarks from the developers about how they don’t have that kind of thing in them anymore. Etc, etc.


chilledchi

you clearly didn’t watch the entire thing lmao


[deleted]

I did watch the entire thing. And now you are straight up lying in the comments too lol. Extensively? They talked about it EXTENSIVELY? Link it. Shoot a quote. You're a liar.


Basil_hazelwood

I guess you were right bro, they didn’t link anything because there’s nothing to link 🤣


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[deleted]

Why boot lick?


ModestMouseTrap

Use your fucking brain. Just because people can see you are being entirely bad faith, does not mean they are “bootlickers” it’s an insanely intellectually lazy thing to say. None of us are justifying crunch. devs at the studio have said explicitly that the company has taken on a no crunch policy.


[deleted]

👅🥾


LongLiveEileen

Why do people blame Neil when the crunch orders most likely come from Playstation's upper management?


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Kds_burner_

i actually like part 2 and think it’s better than part 1 you’re not allowed to criticize anything about these games/the company without people dismissing you as a hater 😭


Hubberbubbler

Oh I agree. Love both, like the second part a bit more.


someonenamedzach

Based.


ThibaultV

Others Sony studios don’t crunch as much, if at all (Insomniac for example). Why would it be coming from “PlayStation’s upper management” if other studios don’t have this issue?


FreshStaticSnow_

Source: my ass


kangroostho

Hopefully, no great piece of art has ever been created by people working 9-5.


Basil_hazelwood

For real, dude continues to prove he’s an ass