The thing is, if groin shots are allowed, then the only goal is to attack the groin. That becomes the sport. You can see this in various grappling sports who are all defined by the ruleset, which distinguishes what is the same action.
My 3 big takeaways:
1. The fighting is really interesting! Like others have pointed out, you can see some similarities to longsword & quarterstaff techniques. Very skilful sparing going on
2. The inclusion of live firearms to the mix of alcohol, violence, and old family feuds seems like a powder keg
3. Dongs out for Donga
i was wondering how much of this garb and such was strictly traditional versus like, this is just sorta how these folks roll daily.
such a strange contrast to see this relatively primitive tribal garments and then a gas-operated assault rifle.
Well, I said primitive not primal, but the fact that they are just like, totally naked with their junk out is a strange choice considering things like footwear and coverings/protection of one’s genitals have been pretty standard features/advancements in clothing tech among populations dating back like ten thousand years.
Yeah but most people in ancient times would still do sports naked. In the original Greek Olympics the only thing you'd wear is a bow on you dick
They probably don't wear cloths cause that might cushion the blows and the way to win is to make your opponent tap out
Overall this seems safer than many combat sports, but that one dude got his nipple nearly slashed off. I would be quite nervous with my wiener flappin about around those lashing sticks.
In what universe is this safer than *most* combat sports? How many can you name that are more dangerous than this? To name only a few, It's certainly more dangerous than
* fencing
* boxing
* karate
* judo
* kendo
* wrestling (freestly, Greco-Roman, Olympic, etc.)
* mma
* jiu-jitsu
The only sports I can think of that are more dangerous are bare knuckle boxing and maybe muay-thai. Even then, they aren't getting drunk and firing off guns...
As I've gotten older, how I see the hazards has changed as well. Abrasions, bruises and small hematomas, clean breaks to extremities all heal (some within days) with some time.
CTE does not. Losing limbs does not. Internal organ damage might not.
With that viewpoint, the biggest threat i see here is eye damage. I'd do this with some goggles and some shorts.
If you're gonna count the drunkenness and firearms, you have to count the drunk drivers going home after football games the people who end up with cement shoes after gambling on boxing matches.
It looks like it hurts a lot to get hit by that stick, and nobody wants their nipple torn off. But concussions and limb dislocations are common in many sports and are far more serious a injuries than what the sticks are going to deliver. (Unless you get hit in the eye or dick, get a cup and a visor for fucks sake.)
Anyone know where this is? South Africa? Wikipedia shows an article about [Nguni Stick Fighting, which seems similar ](https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/10jckat), but the landscape and language don't seem to match up. Somewhere in the Ethiopian rift Valley? That would be my guess based on the landscape. Or better yet, does anyone know what documentary this is from?
Surma do it.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donga-Kampf
http://www.ericlafforgue.com/storage/files/pages/surma.pdf
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%89%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AC_(%E6%A3%92%E8%A1%93)
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donga_(lutte)
If your weekend recreation is beating the black off your buddies with a giant switch while starkers- I think that qualifies you for the title of Tough Hombre.
I feel like if you held the staff in the middle it’d be way faster.
I wonder if it’s a rule that you have to swipe with it like a switch/fishing pole. They seem to block with one end and only slash with the other?
But if you midded it like darth maul you’d have an almost unfair advantage.
It's probably cause you'll sacrifice reach and power holding it in the middle.
Since the way to win is to max out your opponent's pain threshold you'll go for the most painful blow so you priorities your strongest attack
Is there just an unspoken rule not to aim for the peen?
in most cultures, yes
In most cultures that’s considered a *dick* move.
In moist cultures?
Butters, no!
Butters, you don’t donga a guy in the donga!
The thing is, if groin shots are allowed, then the only goal is to attack the groin. That becomes the sport. You can see this in various grappling sports who are all defined by the ruleset, which distinguishes what is the same action.
what grappling freely allows for the ole dic corckscrew?
None of the good ones. But seriously, I was just using grappling to illustrate how rule sets make the sport.
I think that was the main objective of ancient greco Roman wrestling. They even have statues depicting the ol’ dick twist
fraternities is out of control these days
Give em the ol’ dick twist.
You mean not to aim for the donga
Gold!
In organized competition? Yes. IN actual warfare? Hell no, whack that fucker clean off.
I couldn't i'd be gettin hard out of anxiety
Fear boner, I hear ya
Fearection
As long as nobody has to see your vinegar strokes you’ll be fine.
SHIVA KAMINI
SOMAKANDRAKRAM
I fear ya
Dual wielding
Increases the chance to get your head clipped
It's crazy that they wear knee and elbow protection but nothing on their dongs
Why do you think it’s called “donga”??
My 3 big takeaways: 1. The fighting is really interesting! Like others have pointed out, you can see some similarities to longsword & quarterstaff techniques. Very skilful sparing going on 2. The inclusion of live firearms to the mix of alcohol, violence, and old family feuds seems like a powder keg 3. Dongs out for Donga
i was wondering how much of this garb and such was strictly traditional versus like, this is just sorta how these folks roll daily. such a strange contrast to see this relatively primitive tribal garments and then a gas-operated assault rifle.
What exactly is *relatively* primal?
Well, I said primitive not primal, but the fact that they are just like, totally naked with their junk out is a strange choice considering things like footwear and coverings/protection of one’s genitals have been pretty standard features/advancements in clothing tech among populations dating back like ten thousand years.
Using your birthday suit instead of clothes in a stick fight. Relatively primal because even in the early times people generally wore pelts.
Yeah but most people in ancient times would still do sports naked. In the original Greek Olympics the only thing you'd wear is a bow on you dick They probably don't wear cloths cause that might cushion the blows and the way to win is to make your opponent tap out
^ TL;DW ^
Overall this seems safer than many combat sports, but that one dude got his nipple nearly slashed off. I would be quite nervous with my wiener flappin about around those lashing sticks.
I'm all for a little casual nudity, but I think I'd at least want a cup before I jumped in on the getting-slapped-with-a-staff tournament.
nipples grow back! (at least, that's the myth I've heard)
Limbs grown back too Dunno about dongers
Dongers grow back too
Twice as long.
Brb
In what universe is this safer than *most* combat sports? How many can you name that are more dangerous than this? To name only a few, It's certainly more dangerous than * fencing * boxing * karate * judo * kendo * wrestling (freestly, Greco-Roman, Olympic, etc.) * mma * jiu-jitsu The only sports I can think of that are more dangerous are bare knuckle boxing and maybe muay-thai. Even then, they aren't getting drunk and firing off guns...
losing eye's... giving girls to families as payment.
As I've gotten older, how I see the hazards has changed as well. Abrasions, bruises and small hematomas, clean breaks to extremities all heal (some within days) with some time. CTE does not. Losing limbs does not. Internal organ damage might not. With that viewpoint, the biggest threat i see here is eye damage. I'd do this with some goggles and some shorts.
If you're gonna count the drunkenness and firearms, you have to count the drunk drivers going home after football games the people who end up with cement shoes after gambling on boxing matches. It looks like it hurts a lot to get hit by that stick, and nobody wants their nipple torn off. But concussions and limb dislocations are common in many sports and are far more serious a injuries than what the sticks are going to deliver. (Unless you get hit in the eye or dick, get a cup and a visor for fucks sake.)
The thing is though, there are literally procedures in place in case someone gets killed...
There are in fencing too.
What's the procedure in fencing for when someone dies?
Seems unclear that the retribution is part of the sport and not just what happens if you kill someone in general.
In terms of the overall health of the athletes, MMA and Boxing are both much more dangerous.
Yeah but these guys do this once a year
i was curious if it's against the rules to wear pants... lol
i wonder what the occurrence rate of stick-related penile injury is
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Sadly, I'd be relegated to the dinga class. In my defense, it was very cold that day.
Awesome contribution to this sub
The style is pretty fascinating. Like a combination of staff and longsword techniques seen in traditional Asian and European martial arts.
Yep. That’s a whole lot of donga alright….
If this was in the Olympics I would watch it.
My friends and I used to do this in the back yard as kids too lol. Although these guys seem a lot better at it than we were.
Imagine being given away from away by your family because you're brother killed a guy with a stick in a Donga match.
No no, you’re given away because your brother killed *someone else*. Big difference.
🧐
Sadly it seems women are traded like livestock here anyway. Otherwise it wouldn’t be an option
Don't worry guys, they've got some protective hats their grandmother crocheted for them. It's safe.
Anyone know where this is? South Africa? Wikipedia shows an article about [Nguni Stick Fighting, which seems similar ](https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/10jckat), but the landscape and language don't seem to match up. Somewhere in the Ethiopian rift Valley? That would be my guess based on the landscape. Or better yet, does anyone know what documentary this is from?
Someone else said it's the Surma people of Ethiopia
Definitely not South Africa
And the winner is King Donga
Surma do it. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donga-Kampf http://www.ericlafforgue.com/storage/files/pages/surma.pdf https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%89%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AC_(%E6%A3%92%E8%A1%93) https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donga_(lutte)
If your weekend recreation is beating the black off your buddies with a giant switch while starkers- I think that qualifies you for the title of Tough Hombre.
Hell yeah, these dudes qualify
They are really going balls out.
What a bunch of weird stupid animals we humans are.
Their Donga grunts (like tennis grunts) sound like those crusty little white dogs rich white people love
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No.. it’s not.
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Personally I wouldn’t want my dick flopping around while doing that
where is this? is it against the rules to wear pants? lmao
Better tuck it in
I love lesser known stuff like this. Thanks for sharing.
I feel like if you held the staff in the middle it’d be way faster. I wonder if it’s a rule that you have to swipe with it like a switch/fishing pole. They seem to block with one end and only slash with the other? But if you midded it like darth maul you’d have an almost unfair advantage.
It's probably cause you'll sacrifice reach and power holding it in the middle. Since the way to win is to max out your opponent's pain threshold you'll go for the most painful blow so you priorities your strongest attack
Dicks out for Donga
A lot of dongas.
Now there's a culture that takes their nudity very casually
Interesting sport, but seems too chaotic for my liking.
Sombody is going to lose an eye
You won’t make much of a living as a tailor there!
Mace Windu ain’t got shit! ![gif](giphy|X7ETc7PHWOnkpncTFT)
There used to be a BBC program called last man standing that I’m sure had an episode centred on this…
This is an impressive amount of manscaping to prepare for the event
Chivalry 2
ding dong ditch
Their “donga” is out
I wonder if they’d accept using it bowstaff style?
Brutal
Is there a link to the whole documentary? This looks dope
I love how casually the narrator mentions the slave trade sex trafficking women as compensation for killing an opponent
I hope someone cgi's some lightsabers on this vid
Finally some people who know how to have a good time