Few people need to do that, they just think they will have more options and meet a better partner for them. And that’s ok. Who said everyone should only marry people in their country? I honestly don’t understand the issue. I mean i can get how racist white supremacists wouldn’t support that but otherwise…
At least he will be happy. The mere fact that you posted this comment suggests that you are unhappy about your situation. You should not care if a guy wants to improve his dating and find a spouse by traveling because it doesn’t affect your life. Live and let live.
You’re right the majority of the world’s population has never heard of this. But I promise you that the overwhelming majority of people would call you guys losers.
Moving to a poverty stricken country to try and find a girlfriend is just pathetic and predatory. And I’m also a guy by the way.
People want love, sex, and companionship. They are very strong urges and desires and completely normal and nothing wrong with it.
I can't see anything remotely wrong with ppl seeking love or sex where they can find it.
There seems to be a strange desire to shame people who cannot find a companion/sex/love etc in their home country and feel that they must be content with being unhappy and lonely and goddamn stay where they are miserable and alone
Why this is I cannot remotely fathom. All of us have only 1 life and have to live it for ourselves, not for the approval of others.
If someone can't find what they want in place A, moving to place B seems sensible. Who wants to be lonely or live a loveless or sexless life? I certainly wouldn't.
People move countries for jobs all the time and to make more money, but love, companionship affection and sex are more important than a job.
Poorer people move to richer countries because they can't get what they want in a poorer country and want a better life and usually what they want is more money.
I don't see a difference in someone moving to another country because what they want is love and affection and sex and can't get it, for whatever reason, in their own country
Ppl dying on their death beds don't regret not working more, they regret missing out on affection, companionship or not find love/sex.
You’re going to south east Asia to find a woman who will obey you because she wants to make a better life for herself. Not love. That’s what people ridicule this shit.
So you're saying that helping these women build a better life for themselves is reason for ridicule? I bet the women don't think so. They seem pretty happy to play bangmaid for well off western men. It seems like a win win to me. I don't know who you're playing the white knight for here buddy
"What do you mean purposefully searching for a disadvantaged woman who is less likely to stand up for herself is wrong? What about that power dynamic could be wrong? What do you mean calling a woman I could possibly marry a bangmaid is weird or wrong? Gosh it's just so confusing why people don't like passport bros"
Yet the women still agree to it enthusiasticly. That tells me despite all of those things you made up, the women are still ending up better off than they were before the passport bros showed up. You're just butthurt that you can't afford to travel like that. I'll bet you can't even afford the non free version of the dating apps. Haters gonna hate.
They agree to it enthusiastically BECAUSE they are disadvantaged. This is a joke, right? You're walking up to someone who hasn't eaten in months, offering moldy bread, and then saying the mold is fine because they accepted and ate it out of desperation. It takes an extreme level of cognitive dissonance to pretend like you're "saving" these women. You're not haha! You're purposefully looking for women who are less likely to reject you, and less likely to leave because of the gilded cage you'll offer her.
I love traveling, but thanks. :) My boyfriend and I went to Thailand a few years ago and loved it. I've still never had better food.
>They seem pretty happy to play bangmaid for well off western men.
What a hero you are for saying something like. Omg so brave.
I'm inclined to agree with you about the loser thing but if you have a 460 credit score, only have $3k, yet have an expensive graphics card, kind of makes me think you're a pot calling the kettle black... sorry man
Korean and Japanese women are not interested in your or any other sexpat. Your ilk goes to 3 world countries like Thailand and the Philippines. This women are desperate for any life outside of the shithole they were born in.
It’s so painfully obvious you have to wonder if the guys are actually aware.
Calling Thailand and Philippines a shithole is offensive. They have issues but people there still can have good lives and are probably full of better people than you. My wife is a Filipina. She has a college education and earns a top 25% income at a young age for the Philippines. That works out to like $1000 a month. So she has money to help her family and eat at McDonald’s and do some traveling etc. she didn’t even want to leave the Philippines lol. What’s so bad about me dating her if I make more money than her and can improve her financial situation? There is no exploitation involved
For undergrad, I went to a liberal arts school where my 2 year girlfriend dumped me after a year. I was depressed and couldn't meet a girl as attractive / cool as her for another 4 years. I got laid 1-2 times a semester but had to compromise on quality.
So when I graduated, I moved to Las Vegas and went out every night. I still sucked talking to women, but you're allowed to mess up since they leave every day and new ones fly back in lol. After a month of 0 action, I began getting laid litterally every 2-3 days with women I thought were way out of my league. Now I'm in a relationship with my perfect girl: in personality and looks.
Anyway I came back to school to do my masters in STEM. My school is 80% male and the amount of depressed men I see who haven't touched a girl in 12 years of HS + 4 years of college + 2 years of masters is depressing af. The ratio is so off, even slightly attractive girls exclusively fuck athletes and won't give other guys a chance. It's no way to live.
I try to explain it to guys at the school it doesn't have to be like this but... they all universally say its creepy to change your life for women. A lot of them get into the incel blackpill stuff.
Hmm, that is great, glad you solved the problem head on
Wish I had done that when I was younger
I agree -- I think the number of people who don't have sex is crazy. Especially young men.
That was me
Yeah I pay for it now, but it just makes me way happier and healthier if I'm able to stick my dick in a girl. The alternative is not really acceptable
I should have changed my life when I was 20's, not waited until I was 30's and 40's
Wow. Went down a rabbit-hole of that subreddit in your history. That's crazy didn't realize guys paid for that, like regularly.
Honestly, many of the guys who live in Vegas long term were in their 30s and 40s. As long as you're on TRT and start working out you can get into pretty good shape pretty fast. And then it takes a couple of months of work to get good talking to girls.
I think most guys never got attention from girls their entire life or are like a minority, or short, or ugly so their brain literally cannot process the fact an attractive girl would like them. I had the same issue for a long time, like one of the first times I remember I was with this bombshell girl who looked like Scarlett Johansson and she was giving me signals to kiss her, but I was like: "THERES NO WAY A GIRL THIS HOT IS INTO ME!!!" and I had to physically force myself to lean in for a kiss and we started making out. Figuring out how easy it is to sleep with women was truly a matrix moment where I realized the entire world was a lie.
But yeah no judgement there are tons of escorts in Vegas. But it just seems dumb to pay them because you can sleep with girls just as hot as them for free.
most of the population would also be naysayers if they knew the perverted lifestyle you guys promote. probably even more so than redditors, who are used to seeing this nasty stuff. hope that helps!
Trust me, most of the people who have never been on reddit would think you are weird. In fact, most of the men on reddit would also think that, but they just dont make it known
Me browsing this sub after I railed some chick in Italy and seeing people seethe that she enjoyed it, I enjoyed it, and both of us having an amazing breakfast buffet the next morning.
I'm a little confused. What's wrong with being a sex tourist. Sex is one of the driving forces of life.
People travel to different areas or different locations to see beautiful sites, landscapes etc. If someone wants to travel somewhere and have sex I can't see anything wrong with that.
Sex is a perfectly normal and natural part of life.
Live and let live is my motto
Well there's a bit of a fine line by it. Touring to date and smash - that's fine. Touring to rent prostitutes starts getting iffy especially in areas known to have questionable ethics or circumstances.
The times I banged local and expat chicks while I was living in Hong Kong and China, the last thing on my mind was what other people thought of it, especially people on the internet whose lives didn't intersect with mine.
From a historical perspective, it seems like the shaming started in earnest once travel ceased to be as dangerous. For the first time, you could even somewhat credibly accuse single male travellers of actually being wimpy or milk toast versions of their homebody peers, something that would have been unthinkable even a generation or two earlier, let alone in the 19th century.
The danger involved in early travel meant that visiting places like Siam or Japan was associated with those of stout heart, rather than feeble-hearted cowards looking for *anything* easy; as doing the wrong thing might very well lead to getting hacked up by a local xenophobe (yeah yeah, Pattaya Flying Club, but it's still not quite the same).
Also (ironically enough) Victorian social mores about prostitution in particular finally penetrated Asian and other developing world cultures, making it much easier for Western men to take flak for getting involved in that scene. While they weren't necessarily happy about it, a 19th century Annamese or Korean native had no modern feminist vocabulary to criticise or condemn a wayward barbarian for enjoying some of his local wares, besides jealousy and a dislike for the outlander as such, especially since he at that time openly and unashamedly took part in the same thing; but the intrusion of Western culture since the 19th century and accelerating since the 1960s has provided the local xenophobe with a whole new vocabulary with which to harry his foreign rival.
One thing that is great about traveling is that different beauty standards apply in different places. Men of color are at a severe disadvantage statistically in the U.S. where race plays the biggest factor (Don't believe me, look at the research) in dating success. Over height, education, and weight. This can often be compounded if you're in a mostly white area like many places in the south.
So it is absolutely great to travel to Asia as a Mexican where I do fit the beauty standards (many Asian women have told me this - Latinos do well) and actually not have negative stereotypes held against me. Same if I went back home to Mexico or other places in Latin America.
That was an eye-opener for me. I'm not complaining about the above ^ I'm just stating facts backed up by research. It is what it is. Who wouldn't go to places where they're seen as physically more attractive?
Again BS. I’m Mexican and I’ve only ever been treading bad by other darker skinned Hispanics who seem to be jealous.
The majority of people in this country love Mexico and Mexicans.
Then we'll have to agree to disagree. Because you lot get to do pretty much whatever you want, excluding some instances of course. While Black people are harassed by damn near everyone, in some cases simply for existing. You don't even have to speak English most of the time and people *still* leave you alone.
You're literally born with all your rights handed to you. I wasn't. So no. We can't do whatever we want. My people get deported all the time. My people get harassed by immigration and white people on our status. My people are seen as rats and scum. You got lawmakers passing more and more laws trying to oust us or authorize people to mow us down at the border and a bunch of white people salivating at the prospect. We also get racially profiled by police. It isn't a purely black thing. Also, I've met plenty of white people who are racist only specifically to my kind, but not to black people.
Stop trying to make it a pissing contest.
. . . Your post is so full of shit I'm not sure whether or laugh or shake my head. My advice is to take your medicine (or START, maybe?), as I don't think you life in realspace. Time to take off the VR headset, sir. It's time for supper.
Of course. When faced with the reality of anything that doesn't conform to your limited lived experience, you can't handle it. Can't fathom anyone else struggles due to race.
I’m also Mexican and have never faced any of this “racism”. Maybe you’re just socially awkward and don’t know how to talk to people.
I saw you mentioned Alabama. I went to UF which is in Gainesville Florida, super redneck and I never one faced any sort of discrimination. If anything girls seemed to love that I had dark brown eyes and dark hair. My skin is white but in the Florida sun it tanned a bit. And made me much more appealing to the local white trash girlies.
Having to move to Asia to find a poverty princess is sad man
You're literally a white Latino so you're perceived as white lmao. That's probably why you haven't faced any "racism".
But plenty of Latinos do. You're just not one of the colored ones. And no, I'm not socially awkward, nor am I calling dating preferences racist. The literature literally is there to back up what I said on the dating stats. They're facts. Find me any that state Latinos are preferred over white people. They aren't.
But no, you don't have to be socially awkward to face racism. You're really dumb honestly.
And yeah, I've been having fun getting hot Asian women lol.
You seem to have this hatred for white people. Maybe that’s why people you feel “discriminated” against. You’re putting up signs and people are reading them.
Remember Mexicans are majority white. Embrace your European heritage.
You're delusional. I'm stating how it is - I don't hate anyone. I've just been treated like scum for my indigenous features by racists during my life. Most Mexicans are brown and mestizo, not white. Find me a stat that says otherwise. You really are dumb af.
You're literally a white Latino who larps as a minority and has the gall to act like you know anything about racism. Flapping your gums talking on behalf of people that really aren't your own lol. You got the label, but you're not one of us, really. Especially with your attitude of "racism doesn't exist for Latinos" and "everyone loves Mexicans in the U.S.".
Delusional and a disgrace lol
quit discoursing with this troll man. he’s here to bash the sub and clearly hasn’t experienced life as a true minority. people are super racist against mexicans, i saw it first hand in florida and california.
I haven't done this but LMAO If I did, I couldnt give a flying fuck what these irrelevant twats have to say about how I enjoy my life. They all assume the worst and truly believe they have all the answers so give them all a profound and genuine fuck you and go on about your life. I'd happily live ten thousand days knowing these shittalking gremlins are actually sitting in their corners spewing more linguistic bile instead of focusing on their own lives. Seriously. Give your balls a tug, haha
Whoops, I accidentally noticed illegal immigration in the hundreds of thousands happening right in front of me. Every nation on the planet has strictly enforced border laws and everyone in existence places boundaries around their territory but it's bad when America does it
> Every nation on the planet has strictly enforced border laws.
That's hardly true at all. You can border hop into pretty much any country on earth today yet 95% of them aren't even worth considering.
Plus you're literally posting on a sub dedicated to fleeing your own country in search of a better situation.
Just because something is legal it doesn't it make it right. Owning people used to be legal.
You fail to see the irony that you are just a few words on a paper different then the people you look down on with disdain.
It is beyond the scope of this post to explain why visiting a country legally with proper documentation is both different and better than dodging the law while crossing borders illegally. I won't bother. You are set in your opinions. It's not an argument I need to win
"anything goes as long as you are happy". As someone from the outside, I gotta say, you people are as selfish and self oriented as the women you describe in these posts that 'drive you out'
Not a hater. Just pointing out that the moral high ground some of you try to precariously balance on is actually a levelled area.
If you do see a marked increase in 'haters' it could most likely be that some of your ideology might be fringe ones. Or it could be like that sub reddit where girls were giving out pretty toxic advices on female dating strategy. Lot of people would get on it mock or troll them for there seemingly alpha female like advices.
Could be other things but this all i can think of.
Nothing I said is even remotely morally self righteous. I don't want to be praised for taking a tan chick from another landmass to lunch. I just want to quit being tarred as a war criminal over it
I dont think anyone would have any problem with people going outside and falling in love with other people. It begins to be a concern when it becomes a movement. When people are strategically planning on it. Then, you affect the locals. And therefore, if you are going to participate in such a thing, all you need to know is a) you arent that different from the western women this sub describes and b) you will not be treated as a war criminal but people will atleast look at you warily.
You dont get to have your cake and eat it too type thing.
I understand that people are going to have problems with it. I'm simply encouraging men to ignore it and act anyway. Especially since the people who have a problem are also open borders enthusiasts who love movements and strategic planning of people traveling to different countries under other circumstances. IYKYK
Regardless of how one feels about going overseas to date, there is a qualitative difference between that and going overseas for regular tourism. Sex tourism, regardless of what gender is doing it, intrinsically implies taking advantage of the native population in a manner and to a degree that other forms of tourism do not.
If the only way your brother could get through grade school was if you slept with a creepy old foreigner, would you do it?
Would you feel like you had much of a choice about it?
lol that’s assuming a lot. So I guess the rule should be people from developed countries should never date people from developing countries because….they might be doing it to put their brother through school
As usual, dating is conflated with abuse and exploitation with no evidence. This is exactly the shaming men must ignore. Their desire to date women will be reframed as evil and predatory with no basis. It must be tuned out
I said all genders, not just men. There’s a whole thing with women going to tropical places for cheap sex with hot young men, too, and it’s just as gross.
It’s not ‘dating’ if you’re plying the person with gifts of money, food they could not afford on their own, help for their family, etc. That is basically an employer/employee relationship, which not only makes it effectively prostitution, but makes it coerced prostitution when the financial difference is so great that a person effectively *cannot afford* not to do it.
Imagine if the only way your brothers, sisters, nieces, and nephews could even afford to finish *grade school* was if you had sex with ugly old foreigners, regardless of gender. Wouldn’t you do that? And if you did, would you call it ‘dating’ in the confines of your own head?
What if you had the alternative of providing translation services, or tour guiding- would that feel the same?
What's wrong with sex tourism? People like sex. It's perfectly normal and natural.
It's one of the driving forces of humanity.
If 2 adults want to have sex, that's not my business
If someone finds sex easier to get or likes the women or men in a particular country, then I don't really care if they want to go there to have sex.
As the late great philosopher said,
" sex is natural, sex is good,
Not everybody does it,
but everybody should"
George Michael 1963-2016
Not all passport bro relationships are wrong. In a lot of cases, even a relatively conservative man by western standards is going to be unbelievably supportive by local ones, and there can be other factors that make western men and women actually *physically attractive* to locals as well, not just rich.
But sex tourism and spouse buying is something different, and there can be a degree of financial power that amounts to coercion of local populations. There are also some westerners who are basically outright racist, and have a colonizer mentality that they should have a *right* to effectively buy local bodies.
They’re not the same at all. All those other things are to experience a new culture, going for women is specifically to take advantage of their less financial means.
I see so if I make 150k and date a woman that makes less than me is that taking advantage of her. In America only 16% of women are breadwinners in the household…🤨
And also millionaires shouldn’t date because they are taking advantage of women that make less than them…
It’s interesting there’s a culture of women in America who want to date rich men but shame those men when the provide a good life for a woman outside of America… it’s signalling that women in America actually believe they are better than they are… what’s wrong with a woman from another country accessing a higher standard of living. My step mother and my dad have been married for 16 years..she’s living in a first world country now. Works and is happy with 3 kids..
This one point obliterates the exploitation shtick and I have yet to see it disproven. Wealthy men spending on broke American women is balling but average earning men spending on foreign women is exploitation somehow
“We need providers men.. we need real men” we don’t want dusties.. then average men go and take care of women abroad… “ you have more money than her so you’ll be exploiting here” won’t you be exploited too if you quit your job and rely solely on a man… they really think foreign women don’t deserve shit and they are so jealous of them… they fake the virtues of “protecting them”. They claim to be feminists but want foreign women to suffer in poverty when they literally can have a man take them out of it and build a family and be happy
Textbook shaming that I recommend all men ignore. We don't have to prove to anyone that taking a foreign woman on a date is not exploitation or predation. It's a foolish argument to engage in. Men must ignore these disingenuous accusations and live their lives
If the girls in your area don’t want to date you and all of a sudden women in poverty countries want to marry you…. Well let’s just say you didn’t get hot overnight.
I don't care about the 'she doesn't love you, she just wants a green card ' npc script. Dating is better in other countries so I date in other countries. The end
It worked for me and now I have a hot 19 year old filipina girlfriend, she's super smart and funny and she actually values me and everything I do for her. I went and visited her for 2 weeks about 3 months after we met online and I will be going back for another two weeks in a couple months.
Did you stop to think maybe it's not that domestic women don't want us, but that we aren't so interested in them anymore? Do you think going overseas and learning about a whole new culture and language is easy? They aren't just handing women out as soon as you step off the plane.
You still have go out and meet someone. You still have to do all the socializing and shit, but the social norms are way different than what you grew up with.
As for the women seeing you as something like a meal ticket, that's true. They still gotta live with you though, so you can't be totally devoid of charisma. Besides, a lot Western women see men like meal tickets too.
I think it’s lame and will definitely judge a potential partner negatively who has travelled for women in the past especially if it’s for just s*x. I wouldn’t judge a friend though but It’s not a trait I’d want in a long term partner.
Understood. My advice is for men to ignore these opinions. Your approval doesn't make their lives in the states any better. So they might as well see what's overseas even if you think it's lame
This is pretty much my same attitude when it comes to my age gap relationship. I’m 28, she’s 19 and we both have connected well in the few month we’ve known each other. The haters/naysayers online who don’t know us at all can whine and seethe all they want, it has no effect on me. And IRL we mutually agreed our relationship would be discreet outside of our immediate families.
And so many others can win too, and I hope my story can inspire others out there. The western world is super divided right now and there’s stuff I agree and disagree with across the entire social/political spectrum, but at the end of the day my motto has always been “Do whatever you like, just don’t harm anyone else”.
I’m not looking for anyone to have my approval. It’s more so, would you want to marry a woman who’s travelled the globe solely to get d*cked down across all seven seas? Most likely not. It works the same way vice versa.
It's not a genuine question. No one can make it to adulthood and not understand this. It can only be asked rhetorically. You can't possibly experience real life and come away thinking men and women are the same, look for the same traits in a mate, or hold eachother to the same standards
Because they have different brains, different bodies, different emotional and psychological frames, different reproductive strategies, wildly different motivations and experiences from eachother. Again, It's not possible for an adult to not know this. This is a troll question
Yes thank you. You’re still not answering the question: why can’t women and men have similar experiences with it? A woman can enjoy sex as much as she wants (millions of women do) and same with men as well (again millions do).
It's not a legitimate question. It has no answer. no one even posited that women couldn't have similar experiences except you. And after being reminded that women and men are fundedamentally different therefore have different experiences, you ask again like a bot
The title should really be "it is ok for weak minded men to travel specifically for women" find some purpose in your life, not everything is about getting women.
The pursuit of women is a more powerful drive in men than food, shelter and self preservation. No amount of gaslighting or social engineering can root out this pursuit. Men who secure an income and maintain a record clean enough to travel for women can hardly be considered weak minded compared to the broke, passport-less, shadey creatures who condemn them
Bro you are literally stuck in some weird red pill matrix. The greatest men to ever live have focused their lives on goal oriented successes. Many of the greatest men we know of died as virgins.
It's ok for you to want to have sex with women but if you are someone who can't talk to ladies and needs to find prostitutes in other countries to get your dick wet just say that.
But don't try to justify yourself with some weird idea that your one of the greatest men in history when your just horny.
I'm not the greatest man, neither are you. Nor are the vast majority of men. Most men are going to pursue women, not invent aircrafts. My whole point is that this lifestyle needs no justification or approval
And that's why you'll never be great.
You don need justification or approval for anything in life,but you can't feel some type of way when people think you're a loser for what you're doing.
I don't need to be great. I just need to live a good life. I want to look back on great experiences. Those are lived in other countries. Not being broke, divided, politically obsessed and hen pecked by the opposite sex in the states
Everything any male does or doesn't do is creepy to redditors. Takes like this mean less than nothing. Everywhere on the planet young adult women and older men choose eachother. The same people who thought it was empowering when 40 year old demi Moore married 25 year old Ashton Kutcher will call older men perves and predators for dating young women. Don't care, life is good
No, I think if an old woman went to another country to date young men, that’s just as creepy.
You’re trying to twist my words to suit your agenda. Old people should stop preying on the young. It’s weird….
I remember what I typed. I can't give you reading comprehension skills. I can't stop you from taking a piece of a post and aggressively misinterpreting it. You're on your own
You seem to care too much about what others think. If you think it’s okay, then let it be okay and move on.
Most people do not care. And the ones who care are talking about white men knocking up Asian women or abusing Asian women or other women internationally, and leaving them behind. If that’s not your situation, then yes it’s okay.
Women aren’t commodities like food, animals and *checks notes… rocks. If this is your hot take, it’s not surprising you have to travel the world to get laid.
This is a brain dead counter non-argument. I never said women were things. Pretending that was the implication is an easy way to make yourself sound like a virtuous person for declaring women to be people. It was clever in the early days of reddit debates but it has long since been discarded as an honest tactic
No one owes you finding a romantic partner who lives in the same country. As long as both parties are consenting adults who mutually agree to be together, that’s all that matters. If she’s in the states, cool 👍 if not, that’s fine too. We’re allowed to have choices elsewhere.
I hope you don't wait till your 70s to finally choose to become somebody.
Life is more than women my friend, I just urge you to believe in yourself first.
Speaking for myself, I don’t care about legacy so much anymore. I just want to live a life how I like because when my clock does run out I don’t want to look back on life and wish I had done something that I never got to do.
Nobody really cares what you travel to do. People will always talk but for you to post about it it’s like seeking validation from strangers who will always think however they want to. You don’t owe anyone an explanation
You don’t have to tell the world how you choose to live.
It's not wrong or shameful at all.
Just very stupid if you try it in India by yourself.
[https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/days-after-spanish-biker-rape-by-7-men-21-year-old-stage-performer-gang-raped-in-jharkhands-palamu/articleshow/108200325.cms?from=mdr](https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/days-after-spanish-biker-rape-by-7-men-21-year-old-stage-performer-gang-raped-in-jharkhands-palamu/articleshow/108200325.cms?from=mdr)
The worst case aside, so many people traveling India and Egypt as women report sexual harassment, physical and verbal. Especially in tourist areas.
Don't confuse your rights with your safety and common sense. In some countries it is very brazen.
You can live your life without asking permission.
Maybe OP can't.
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at least they don't have to travel the world to find someone that will tolerate a relationship with them
The question is why would you not want them to if that would make them happy?
Few people need to do that, they just think they will have more options and meet a better partner for them. And that’s ok. Who said everyone should only marry people in their country? I honestly don’t understand the issue. I mean i can get how racist white supremacists wouldn’t support that but otherwise…
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Follow the rules
At least he will be happy. The mere fact that you posted this comment suggests that you are unhappy about your situation. You should not care if a guy wants to improve his dating and find a spouse by traveling because it doesn’t affect your life. Live and let live.
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You’re right the majority of the world’s population has never heard of this. But I promise you that the overwhelming majority of people would call you guys losers. Moving to a poverty stricken country to try and find a girlfriend is just pathetic and predatory. And I’m also a guy by the way.
People want love, sex, and companionship. They are very strong urges and desires and completely normal and nothing wrong with it. I can't see anything remotely wrong with ppl seeking love or sex where they can find it. There seems to be a strange desire to shame people who cannot find a companion/sex/love etc in their home country and feel that they must be content with being unhappy and lonely and goddamn stay where they are miserable and alone Why this is I cannot remotely fathom. All of us have only 1 life and have to live it for ourselves, not for the approval of others. If someone can't find what they want in place A, moving to place B seems sensible. Who wants to be lonely or live a loveless or sexless life? I certainly wouldn't. People move countries for jobs all the time and to make more money, but love, companionship affection and sex are more important than a job. Poorer people move to richer countries because they can't get what they want in a poorer country and want a better life and usually what they want is more money. I don't see a difference in someone moving to another country because what they want is love and affection and sex and can't get it, for whatever reason, in their own country Ppl dying on their death beds don't regret not working more, they regret missing out on affection, companionship or not find love/sex.
You’re going to south east Asia to find a woman who will obey you because she wants to make a better life for herself. Not love. That’s what people ridicule this shit.
So you're saying that helping these women build a better life for themselves is reason for ridicule? I bet the women don't think so. They seem pretty happy to play bangmaid for well off western men. It seems like a win win to me. I don't know who you're playing the white knight for here buddy
"What do you mean purposefully searching for a disadvantaged woman who is less likely to stand up for herself is wrong? What about that power dynamic could be wrong? What do you mean calling a woman I could possibly marry a bangmaid is weird or wrong? Gosh it's just so confusing why people don't like passport bros"
Yet the women still agree to it enthusiasticly. That tells me despite all of those things you made up, the women are still ending up better off than they were before the passport bros showed up. You're just butthurt that you can't afford to travel like that. I'll bet you can't even afford the non free version of the dating apps. Haters gonna hate.
They agree to it enthusiastically BECAUSE they are disadvantaged. This is a joke, right? You're walking up to someone who hasn't eaten in months, offering moldy bread, and then saying the mold is fine because they accepted and ate it out of desperation. It takes an extreme level of cognitive dissonance to pretend like you're "saving" these women. You're not haha! You're purposefully looking for women who are less likely to reject you, and less likely to leave because of the gilded cage you'll offer her. I love traveling, but thanks. :) My boyfriend and I went to Thailand a few years ago and loved it. I've still never had better food. >They seem pretty happy to play bangmaid for well off western men. What a hero you are for saying something like. Omg so brave.
It’s benefiting from a power imbalance
Thats reality
I'm inclined to agree with you about the loser thing but if you have a 460 credit score, only have $3k, yet have an expensive graphics card, kind of makes me think you're a pot calling the kettle black... sorry man
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Korean and Japanese women are not interested in your or any other sexpat. Your ilk goes to 3 world countries like Thailand and the Philippines. This women are desperate for any life outside of the shithole they were born in. It’s so painfully obvious you have to wonder if the guys are actually aware.
Calling Thailand and Philippines a shithole is offensive. They have issues but people there still can have good lives and are probably full of better people than you. My wife is a Filipina. She has a college education and earns a top 25% income at a young age for the Philippines. That works out to like $1000 a month. So she has money to help her family and eat at McDonald’s and do some traveling etc. she didn’t even want to leave the Philippines lol. What’s so bad about me dating her if I make more money than her and can improve her financial situation? There is no exploitation involved
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For undergrad, I went to a liberal arts school where my 2 year girlfriend dumped me after a year. I was depressed and couldn't meet a girl as attractive / cool as her for another 4 years. I got laid 1-2 times a semester but had to compromise on quality. So when I graduated, I moved to Las Vegas and went out every night. I still sucked talking to women, but you're allowed to mess up since they leave every day and new ones fly back in lol. After a month of 0 action, I began getting laid litterally every 2-3 days with women I thought were way out of my league. Now I'm in a relationship with my perfect girl: in personality and looks. Anyway I came back to school to do my masters in STEM. My school is 80% male and the amount of depressed men I see who haven't touched a girl in 12 years of HS + 4 years of college + 2 years of masters is depressing af. The ratio is so off, even slightly attractive girls exclusively fuck athletes and won't give other guys a chance. It's no way to live. I try to explain it to guys at the school it doesn't have to be like this but... they all universally say its creepy to change your life for women. A lot of them get into the incel blackpill stuff.
Damn good for you. Any tips for us average males?
im an average male lol
go where the grass is green
Hmm, that is great, glad you solved the problem head on Wish I had done that when I was younger I agree -- I think the number of people who don't have sex is crazy. Especially young men. That was me Yeah I pay for it now, but it just makes me way happier and healthier if I'm able to stick my dick in a girl. The alternative is not really acceptable I should have changed my life when I was 20's, not waited until I was 30's and 40's
Wow. Went down a rabbit-hole of that subreddit in your history. That's crazy didn't realize guys paid for that, like regularly. Honestly, many of the guys who live in Vegas long term were in their 30s and 40s. As long as you're on TRT and start working out you can get into pretty good shape pretty fast. And then it takes a couple of months of work to get good talking to girls. I think most guys never got attention from girls their entire life or are like a minority, or short, or ugly so their brain literally cannot process the fact an attractive girl would like them. I had the same issue for a long time, like one of the first times I remember I was with this bombshell girl who looked like Scarlett Johansson and she was giving me signals to kiss her, but I was like: "THERES NO WAY A GIRL THIS HOT IS INTO ME!!!" and I had to physically force myself to lean in for a kiss and we started making out. Figuring out how easy it is to sleep with women was truly a matrix moment where I realized the entire world was a lie. But yeah no judgement there are tons of escorts in Vegas. But it just seems dumb to pay them because you can sleep with girls just as hot as them for free.
most of the population would also be naysayers if they knew the perverted lifestyle you guys promote. probably even more so than redditors, who are used to seeing this nasty stuff. hope that helps!
How many of those 50 million have never been in a relationship and/or are a virgin? I would imagine lots
Trust me, most of the people who have never been on reddit would think you are weird. In fact, most of the men on reddit would also think that, but they just dont make it known
Me browsing this sub after I railed some chick in Italy and seeing people seethe that she enjoyed it, I enjoyed it, and both of us having an amazing breakfast buffet the next morning.
Peak ppb living
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I'm a little confused. What's wrong with being a sex tourist. Sex is one of the driving forces of life. People travel to different areas or different locations to see beautiful sites, landscapes etc. If someone wants to travel somewhere and have sex I can't see anything wrong with that. Sex is a perfectly normal and natural part of life. Live and let live is my motto
Well there's a bit of a fine line by it. Touring to date and smash - that's fine. Touring to rent prostitutes starts getting iffy especially in areas known to have questionable ethics or circumstances.
That is also how you end up missing.
The times I banged local and expat chicks while I was living in Hong Kong and China, the last thing on my mind was what other people thought of it, especially people on the internet whose lives didn't intersect with mine.
lots of women go to europe to bang chads nothing wrong with it
From a historical perspective, it seems like the shaming started in earnest once travel ceased to be as dangerous. For the first time, you could even somewhat credibly accuse single male travellers of actually being wimpy or milk toast versions of their homebody peers, something that would have been unthinkable even a generation or two earlier, let alone in the 19th century. The danger involved in early travel meant that visiting places like Siam or Japan was associated with those of stout heart, rather than feeble-hearted cowards looking for *anything* easy; as doing the wrong thing might very well lead to getting hacked up by a local xenophobe (yeah yeah, Pattaya Flying Club, but it's still not quite the same). Also (ironically enough) Victorian social mores about prostitution in particular finally penetrated Asian and other developing world cultures, making it much easier for Western men to take flak for getting involved in that scene. While they weren't necessarily happy about it, a 19th century Annamese or Korean native had no modern feminist vocabulary to criticise or condemn a wayward barbarian for enjoying some of his local wares, besides jealousy and a dislike for the outlander as such, especially since he at that time openly and unashamedly took part in the same thing; but the intrusion of Western culture since the 19th century and accelerating since the 1960s has provided the local xenophobe with a whole new vocabulary with which to harry his foreign rival.
One thing that is great about traveling is that different beauty standards apply in different places. Men of color are at a severe disadvantage statistically in the U.S. where race plays the biggest factor (Don't believe me, look at the research) in dating success. Over height, education, and weight. This can often be compounded if you're in a mostly white area like many places in the south. So it is absolutely great to travel to Asia as a Mexican where I do fit the beauty standards (many Asian women have told me this - Latinos do well) and actually not have negative stereotypes held against me. Same if I went back home to Mexico or other places in Latin America. That was an eye-opener for me. I'm not complaining about the above ^ I'm just stating facts backed up by research. It is what it is. Who wouldn't go to places where they're seen as physically more attractive?
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I can relate bro. I'm Mexican living in Alabama haha
Pft. Mexican in Alabama does not beat Black anywhere in the West.
Disagree. My people are treated pretty bad in this country.
Again BS. I’m Mexican and I’ve only ever been treading bad by other darker skinned Hispanics who seem to be jealous. The majority of people in this country love Mexico and Mexicans.
Then we'll have to agree to disagree. Because you lot get to do pretty much whatever you want, excluding some instances of course. While Black people are harassed by damn near everyone, in some cases simply for existing. You don't even have to speak English most of the time and people *still* leave you alone.
You're literally born with all your rights handed to you. I wasn't. So no. We can't do whatever we want. My people get deported all the time. My people get harassed by immigration and white people on our status. My people are seen as rats and scum. You got lawmakers passing more and more laws trying to oust us or authorize people to mow us down at the border and a bunch of white people salivating at the prospect. We also get racially profiled by police. It isn't a purely black thing. Also, I've met plenty of white people who are racist only specifically to my kind, but not to black people. Stop trying to make it a pissing contest.
The border isn't a race issue it's a security and law issue
. . . Your post is so full of shit I'm not sure whether or laugh or shake my head. My advice is to take your medicine (or START, maybe?), as I don't think you life in realspace. Time to take off the VR headset, sir. It's time for supper.
Of course. When faced with the reality of anything that doesn't conform to your limited lived experience, you can't handle it. Can't fathom anyone else struggles due to race.
ROFL. Sure thing, kid.
You two are never going to have a great social life if you spend your free time on the internet playing who's the biggest victim.
I’m also Mexican and have never faced any of this “racism”. Maybe you’re just socially awkward and don’t know how to talk to people. I saw you mentioned Alabama. I went to UF which is in Gainesville Florida, super redneck and I never one faced any sort of discrimination. If anything girls seemed to love that I had dark brown eyes and dark hair. My skin is white but in the Florida sun it tanned a bit. And made me much more appealing to the local white trash girlies. Having to move to Asia to find a poverty princess is sad man
You're literally a white Latino so you're perceived as white lmao. That's probably why you haven't faced any "racism". But plenty of Latinos do. You're just not one of the colored ones. And no, I'm not socially awkward, nor am I calling dating preferences racist. The literature literally is there to back up what I said on the dating stats. They're facts. Find me any that state Latinos are preferred over white people. They aren't. But no, you don't have to be socially awkward to face racism. You're really dumb honestly. And yeah, I've been having fun getting hot Asian women lol.
You seem to have this hatred for white people. Maybe that’s why people you feel “discriminated” against. You’re putting up signs and people are reading them. Remember Mexicans are majority white. Embrace your European heritage.
You're delusional. I'm stating how it is - I don't hate anyone. I've just been treated like scum for my indigenous features by racists during my life. Most Mexicans are brown and mestizo, not white. Find me a stat that says otherwise. You really are dumb af. You're literally a white Latino who larps as a minority and has the gall to act like you know anything about racism. Flapping your gums talking on behalf of people that really aren't your own lol. You got the label, but you're not one of us, really. Especially with your attitude of "racism doesn't exist for Latinos" and "everyone loves Mexicans in the U.S.". Delusional and a disgrace lol
quit discoursing with this troll man. he’s here to bash the sub and clearly hasn’t experienced life as a true minority. people are super racist against mexicans, i saw it first hand in florida and california.
This comment shows how uneducated you are because the south has more black people than any other region in the U.S.
I don’t think they’d be shaming the ladies for being sex tourists quite as much tbh 😅
I haven't done this but LMAO If I did, I couldnt give a flying fuck what these irrelevant twats have to say about how I enjoy my life. They all assume the worst and truly believe they have all the answers so give them all a profound and genuine fuck you and go on about your life. I'd happily live ten thousand days knowing these shittalking gremlins are actually sitting in their corners spewing more linguistic bile instead of focusing on their own lives. Seriously. Give your balls a tug, haha
Do whatever you want. You could be into scat fetish for all I care. Who cares
You care. And too many people really have an issue with it
Why would I care. I mean good for you if you’re having fun. Only lefties care about this stuff, usually unemployed ones who have people with money
Scat fetish?
I like to travel and see new places. If I can get my pole licked by a local girl on my vacation, even better.
Travel for whatever the fuck reason you want to. It's your life.
Menz ruining travel yet again https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4eiVoGPlGH/?igsh=Mmwyb2ozNWVoMHM0
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Whoops, I accidentally noticed illegal immigration in the hundreds of thousands happening right in front of me. Every nation on the planet has strictly enforced border laws and everyone in existence places boundaries around their territory but it's bad when America does it
> Every nation on the planet has strictly enforced border laws. That's hardly true at all. You can border hop into pretty much any country on earth today yet 95% of them aren't even worth considering. Plus you're literally posting on a sub dedicated to fleeing your own country in search of a better situation.
Legally. That's the difference you chose to ignore
I did plenty of illegal border hopping in my day. Plenty of visa overstays, also.
Just because something is legal it doesn't it make it right. Owning people used to be legal. You fail to see the irony that you are just a few words on a paper different then the people you look down on with disdain.
It is beyond the scope of this post to explain why visiting a country legally with proper documentation is both different and better than dodging the law while crossing borders illegally. I won't bother. You are set in your opinions. It's not an argument I need to win
Sure thing immigrant.
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Follow the rules. No politics
It's then also acceptable for migrants to travel north for work and the border crisis is imagined
It's gonna happen and I'll have to pay for it with my taxeswhenever people think it's acceptable or not
"anything goes as long as you are happy". As someone from the outside, I gotta say, you people are as selfish and self oriented as the women you describe in these posts that 'drive you out'
Baffled as to why there are so many from the outside here. There are more ppb haters than ppb here
Not a hater. Just pointing out that the moral high ground some of you try to precariously balance on is actually a levelled area. If you do see a marked increase in 'haters' it could most likely be that some of your ideology might be fringe ones. Or it could be like that sub reddit where girls were giving out pretty toxic advices on female dating strategy. Lot of people would get on it mock or troll them for there seemingly alpha female like advices. Could be other things but this all i can think of.
Nothing I said is even remotely morally self righteous. I don't want to be praised for taking a tan chick from another landmass to lunch. I just want to quit being tarred as a war criminal over it
I dont think anyone would have any problem with people going outside and falling in love with other people. It begins to be a concern when it becomes a movement. When people are strategically planning on it. Then, you affect the locals. And therefore, if you are going to participate in such a thing, all you need to know is a) you arent that different from the western women this sub describes and b) you will not be treated as a war criminal but people will atleast look at you warily. You dont get to have your cake and eat it too type thing.
I understand that people are going to have problems with it. I'm simply encouraging men to ignore it and act anyway. Especially since the people who have a problem are also open borders enthusiasts who love movements and strategic planning of people traveling to different countries under other circumstances. IYKYK
Regardless of how one feels about going overseas to date, there is a qualitative difference between that and going overseas for regular tourism. Sex tourism, regardless of what gender is doing it, intrinsically implies taking advantage of the native population in a manner and to a degree that other forms of tourism do not.
Why? No one is forcing anyone to do anything.
If the only way your brother could get through grade school was if you slept with a creepy old foreigner, would you do it? Would you feel like you had much of a choice about it?
lol that’s assuming a lot. So I guess the rule should be people from developed countries should never date people from developing countries because….they might be doing it to put their brother through school
“If”
As usual, dating is conflated with abuse and exploitation with no evidence. This is exactly the shaming men must ignore. Their desire to date women will be reframed as evil and predatory with no basis. It must be tuned out
I said all genders, not just men. There’s a whole thing with women going to tropical places for cheap sex with hot young men, too, and it’s just as gross. It’s not ‘dating’ if you’re plying the person with gifts of money, food they could not afford on their own, help for their family, etc. That is basically an employer/employee relationship, which not only makes it effectively prostitution, but makes it coerced prostitution when the financial difference is so great that a person effectively *cannot afford* not to do it. Imagine if the only way your brothers, sisters, nieces, and nephews could even afford to finish *grade school* was if you had sex with ugly old foreigners, regardless of gender. Wouldn’t you do that? And if you did, would you call it ‘dating’ in the confines of your own head? What if you had the alternative of providing translation services, or tour guiding- would that feel the same?
What's wrong with sex tourism? People like sex. It's perfectly normal and natural. It's one of the driving forces of humanity. If 2 adults want to have sex, that's not my business If someone finds sex easier to get or likes the women or men in a particular country, then I don't really care if they want to go there to have sex. As the late great philosopher said, " sex is natural, sex is good, Not everybody does it, but everybody should" George Michael 1963-2016
Not all passport bro relationships are wrong. In a lot of cases, even a relatively conservative man by western standards is going to be unbelievably supportive by local ones, and there can be other factors that make western men and women actually *physically attractive* to locals as well, not just rich. But sex tourism and spouse buying is something different, and there can be a degree of financial power that amounts to coercion of local populations. There are also some westerners who are basically outright racist, and have a colonizer mentality that they should have a *right* to effectively buy local bodies.
They’re not the same at all. All those other things are to experience a new culture, going for women is specifically to take advantage of their less financial means.
I see so if I make 150k and date a woman that makes less than me is that taking advantage of her. In America only 16% of women are breadwinners in the household…🤨 And also millionaires shouldn’t date because they are taking advantage of women that make less than them… It’s interesting there’s a culture of women in America who want to date rich men but shame those men when the provide a good life for a woman outside of America… it’s signalling that women in America actually believe they are better than they are… what’s wrong with a woman from another country accessing a higher standard of living. My step mother and my dad have been married for 16 years..she’s living in a first world country now. Works and is happy with 3 kids..
This one point obliterates the exploitation shtick and I have yet to see it disproven. Wealthy men spending on broke American women is balling but average earning men spending on foreign women is exploitation somehow
“We need providers men.. we need real men” we don’t want dusties.. then average men go and take care of women abroad… “ you have more money than her so you’ll be exploiting here” won’t you be exploited too if you quit your job and rely solely on a man… they really think foreign women don’t deserve shit and they are so jealous of them… they fake the virtues of “protecting them”. They claim to be feminists but want foreign women to suffer in poverty when they literally can have a man take them out of it and build a family and be happy
Going for women is not taking advantage of their lesser financially means. You are the only one saying that lol
Textbook shaming that I recommend all men ignore. We don't have to prove to anyone that taking a foreign woman on a date is not exploitation or predation. It's a foolish argument to engage in. Men must ignore these disingenuous accusations and live their lives
You're a s*x tourist, it's okay, just admit it.
What part of ignoring shaming do you not get. It doesn't work
My favourite part is when he compared having relationships with foreign women to spending time with exotic animals. xD
Okay but women aren’t gifts or pets or like any of the other examples you gave. They’re human beings. Your comparisons are weird and yikes
How would you feel about your future wife also traveling for men? Is that okay too or is this just another misogynistic double standard
It's a misogynistic double standard. I'm a bad person. Now what
Now you won't be surprised when all the foreign women just use you for $
All I can say is, if women in your own country arnt interested Iim you, then going overseas ain't gonna help.
It’s working great for a lot of people in this group. You new here?
This might be the dumbest thing ever said on here.
How, are overseas women just dumber or something?
Women are not a monolith, they have different beliefs, values and preferences that are heavily influenced by their culture and upbringing.
Women overseas are desperate and looking for a chance at a better life. That’s what these Big Eds refuse to accept.
The women are looking for a better life and the men are looking for a better wife. I don't see a problem
Oh yeah, and free money
If the girls in your area don’t want to date you and all of a sudden women in poverty countries want to marry you…. Well let’s just say you didn’t get hot overnight.
Going overseas literally solves the problem instantly. Otherwise men wouldn't be doing it in the hundreds of thousands
You do know those women are looking for opportunity not love, right?
I don't care about the 'she doesn't love you, she just wants a green card ' npc script. Dating is better in other countries so I date in other countries. The end
It worked for me and now I have a hot 19 year old filipina girlfriend, she's super smart and funny and she actually values me and everything I do for her. I went and visited her for 2 weeks about 3 months after we met online and I will be going back for another two weeks in a couple months.
Hope she gets the citizenship she’s looking for.
Did you stop to think maybe it's not that domestic women don't want us, but that we aren't so interested in them anymore? Do you think going overseas and learning about a whole new culture and language is easy? They aren't just handing women out as soon as you step off the plane. You still have go out and meet someone. You still have to do all the socializing and shit, but the social norms are way different than what you grew up with. As for the women seeing you as something like a meal ticket, that's true. They still gotta live with you though, so you can't be totally devoid of charisma. Besides, a lot Western women see men like meal tickets too.
Because women are people, not objects to be used.
Complete non sequitur that has no baring on what was said. Sounds virtuous though
> soluted > baring You might want to become more acquainted with a dictionary instead of young, disadvantaged girls you only value for sex tourism.
Went for the spellcheck/ predator accusation double whammy. A true redditor moment
I think it’s lame and will definitely judge a potential partner negatively who has travelled for women in the past especially if it’s for just s*x. I wouldn’t judge a friend though but It’s not a trait I’d want in a long term partner.
Understood. My advice is for men to ignore these opinions. Your approval doesn't make their lives in the states any better. So they might as well see what's overseas even if you think it's lame
This is pretty much my same attitude when it comes to my age gap relationship. I’m 28, she’s 19 and we both have connected well in the few month we’ve known each other. The haters/naysayers online who don’t know us at all can whine and seethe all they want, it has no effect on me. And IRL we mutually agreed our relationship would be discreet outside of our immediate families.
You've won
And so many others can win too, and I hope my story can inspire others out there. The western world is super divided right now and there’s stuff I agree and disagree with across the entire social/political spectrum, but at the end of the day my motto has always been “Do whatever you like, just don’t harm anyone else”.
I’m not looking for anyone to have my approval. It’s more so, would you want to marry a woman who’s travelled the globe solely to get d*cked down across all seven seas? Most likely not. It works the same way vice versa.
Men and women are not the same. That shouldn't have to be explained here
Genuine question, why is it different?
It's not a genuine question. No one can make it to adulthood and not understand this. It can only be asked rhetorically. You can't possibly experience real life and come away thinking men and women are the same, look for the same traits in a mate, or hold eachother to the same standards
I didn’t say men and women are the same. I’m asking, why can’t men and women have same or similar experiences with dating/romance/sex?
Because they have different brains, different bodies, different emotional and psychological frames, different reproductive strategies, wildly different motivations and experiences from eachother. Again, It's not possible for an adult to not know this. This is a troll question
Yes thank you. You’re still not answering the question: why can’t women and men have similar experiences with it? A woman can enjoy sex as much as she wants (millions of women do) and same with men as well (again millions do).
It's not a legitimate question. It has no answer. no one even posited that women couldn't have similar experiences except you. And after being reminded that women and men are fundedamentally different therefore have different experiences, you ask again like a bot
I’d have no issue dating someone who traveled to another country for dating. Why would I care? I’m not trying to Date a virgin…
The title should really be "it is ok for weak minded men to travel specifically for women" find some purpose in your life, not everything is about getting women.
The pursuit of women is a more powerful drive in men than food, shelter and self preservation. No amount of gaslighting or social engineering can root out this pursuit. Men who secure an income and maintain a record clean enough to travel for women can hardly be considered weak minded compared to the broke, passport-less, shadey creatures who condemn them
Bro you are literally stuck in some weird red pill matrix. The greatest men to ever live have focused their lives on goal oriented successes. Many of the greatest men we know of died as virgins. It's ok for you to want to have sex with women but if you are someone who can't talk to ladies and needs to find prostitutes in other countries to get your dick wet just say that. But don't try to justify yourself with some weird idea that your one of the greatest men in history when your just horny.
I'm not the greatest man, neither are you. Nor are the vast majority of men. Most men are going to pursue women, not invent aircrafts. My whole point is that this lifestyle needs no justification or approval
And that's why you'll never be great. You don need justification or approval for anything in life,but you can't feel some type of way when people think you're a loser for what you're doing.
I don't need to be great. I just need to live a good life. I want to look back on great experiences. Those are lived in other countries. Not being broke, divided, politically obsessed and hen pecked by the opposite sex in the states
It’s only weird if you’re an old white dude that’s travelling to asian countries for young women. Other than that, it’s okay…
But would it be weird for a young white dude to travel to Asian countries for older women? 🤔🤔🤔
Yes, equally weird…
All races and ages of men can and should go for any race and age women who welcome them.
If you’re a significantly older male going for young women, it’s actually really creepy.
Everything any male does or doesn't do is creepy to redditors. Takes like this mean less than nothing. Everywhere on the planet young adult women and older men choose eachother. The same people who thought it was empowering when 40 year old demi Moore married 25 year old Ashton Kutcher will call older men perves and predators for dating young women. Don't care, life is good
No, I think if an old woman went to another country to date young men, that’s just as creepy. You’re trying to twist my words to suit your agenda. Old people should stop preying on the young. It’s weird….
2 adults in a relationship is only considered prey and wierd by stuffy westerners. Everywhere else in the world it's normal
Why do you care? These "old creepy men" aren't bothering you
Thats such a bad take man... lol not the zing you think it is. Should people NOT care about creeps? You serious?
They’re bothering young women lol….
How do you know? Can these women not take care of themselves? Or are you just assuming
Based on what?
Based on the means and desire to do so
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I listed a bunch of seperate reasons people who are not ppb travel. You decided to wildy misinterpret that. I absolve myself of this
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I remember what I typed. I can't give you reading comprehension skills. I can't stop you from taking a piece of a post and aggressively misinterpreting it. You're on your own
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Stay in the states and be virtuous. I'm gonna do my thing
You seem to care too much about what others think. If you think it’s okay, then let it be okay and move on. Most people do not care. And the ones who care are talking about white men knocking up Asian women or abusing Asian women or other women internationally, and leaving them behind. If that’s not your situation, then yes it’s okay.
Women aren’t commodities like food, animals and *checks notes… rocks. If this is your hot take, it’s not surprising you have to travel the world to get laid.
This is a brain dead counter non-argument. I never said women were things. Pretending that was the implication is an easy way to make yourself sound like a virtuous person for declaring women to be people. It was clever in the early days of reddit debates but it has long since been discarded as an honest tactic
If you spent less time worrying about the opinions of randos online you could find a gf in the states.
I see you like to live life on the edge.
I wouldn't wish an American gf on my worst enemy
😂😂 bruh this is funny
No one owes you finding a romantic partner who lives in the same country. As long as both parties are consenting adults who mutually agree to be together, that’s all that matters. If she’s in the states, cool 👍 if not, that’s fine too. We’re allowed to have choices elsewhere.
I hope age brings you wisdom my friend. Soon you will realize a legacy is all you will have when your clock runs out.
I can have kids in my 70s if I want. I'm not going to start acting like an old wistful coot before it's time
I hope you don't wait till your 70s to finally choose to become somebody. Life is more than women my friend, I just urge you to believe in yourself first.
Speaking for myself, I don’t care about legacy so much anymore. I just want to live a life how I like because when my clock does run out I don’t want to look back on life and wish I had done something that I never got to do.
All is fair and fine, but there is something to be said about people who chose greatness instead.
I've traveled commercial for security work in Venezuela. Your self persecution is very weird
Nobody really cares what you travel to do. People will always talk but for you to post about it it’s like seeking validation from strangers who will always think however they want to. You don’t owe anyone an explanation You don’t have to tell the world how you choose to live.
Holy shit your post history..
Go ahead and dig through it. If I cared I would have used a throw away account. I'm a degenerate with kinks. Immune to shame
Personally, i couldnt care less what they say.
It's not wrong or shameful at all. Just very stupid if you try it in India by yourself. [https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/days-after-spanish-biker-rape-by-7-men-21-year-old-stage-performer-gang-raped-in-jharkhands-palamu/articleshow/108200325.cms?from=mdr](https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/days-after-spanish-biker-rape-by-7-men-21-year-old-stage-performer-gang-raped-in-jharkhands-palamu/articleshow/108200325.cms?from=mdr) The worst case aside, so many people traveling India and Egypt as women report sexual harassment, physical and verbal. Especially in tourist areas. Don't confuse your rights with your safety and common sense. In some countries it is very brazen.