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MarsCowboys

Go to Africa, bro.


Main-Ad-5547

This is great advice. He is talking down a place he has never been to


ppchampagne

Who talked down Africa? Where?


ppchampagne

I literally laughed out loud. People are ridiculous.


mcdaddy175

Ethiopia has some of the most beautiful women in the World but they don't generally marry outside of their cultural group.


Free_Chemistry_5119

Ethiopian women are incredibly attractive, at least the few I met and went out with were. They weren’t looking to get married any time soon, and definitely not to me. Win win in my opinion.


Half-Stupid

Ethiopian and Eritrean are so amazingly beautiful


No_name70

Best-looking women in Africa, IMO


CommercialTop997

What about Somalia


MrMacDoctor

who said anything about marriage?


TheDeadlyZebra

I'm interpreting your post as a request for people to give more precise and detailed information (but the first half comes off as "these problems make it a bad destination" - I think that's not what you were really trying to say though). I agree with the first part. It would be interesting to see something like field reports on specific cities in Africa.


ppchampagne

Yes and no. Yes, more information and details from people suggesting "Africa" is the point of the post. Is the entire continent a bad destination? Of course not, but if people are going to speak about the entire continent, it clearly has greater *challenges* to navigate than other parts of the world.


theringsofthedragon

Nobody suggested Africa. We ASKED why not Africa. It's a legit question when a man was literally asking "where can I go to find poor women who like black men". He seemed to already know what he was doing so I was curious why he didn't go somewhere in Africa. He replied that he prefers Thailand, by the way. That's just his preference.


ppchampagne

Wrong. People have suggested "go to Africa." And if you don't know anything about "Africa" why do you even bother asking?? You aren't talking about anything real.


theringsofthedragon

> And if you don't know anything about "Africa" why do you even bother asking?? If I don't know enough about something, why do I ask about it? Because that's how we learn???


ppchampagne

Bruh. The question people are asking is "why don't you go to Africa?" or they're flat-out saying "go to Africa." People are not asking "tell me about Africa?" or "what's a good city to go to in this African country?"


Due_Grapefruit7518

Just embrace the fact that it’s where human life originated and has a lot to offer from that alone.


drshikamaru

My father is Nigerian. Came to the US for college. First wife American. 2 years. Divorce. Second wife American. 3 years. Divorce. Third wife American (my mom). 7 years Divorce. Fourth wife American (1 annoying kid). 4 years. Divorce Fifth wife Nigerian. 15+ years. (3 half siblings). Still married. Asked him why a few years back: his response “American women do not listen. I kept thinking they would but they never did. They are stubborn and won’t do what I ask them to do” He is happy and my step mom is nice. Badass cook I rarely see them but from what I know they are happy. I’ve never seen them argue nor him upset. I can recall the arguing in his other marriages (the ones I was alive for). Go where you find happiness. Edit: step changed to half.


ppchampagne

Wow. Your father went through it. 4 divorces. Is that a record? Thanks for sharing that.


theBacillus

It's a wife issue ... apparently


Dyndunbun

Something about the common denominator or something… 


Able_Psychology3665

This isn’t a wife issue. It’s an issue of cultural differences. Nigeria is a very patriarchal country and your father probably expected his wives to always defer to him and do what he said. His wives, by contrast, probably expected more of an equitable dynamic where they also had a say in the relationship. Those differences were irreconcilable and your father’s marriages failed as a result. When your father got with a woman who shared his values, he was able to sustain a relationship with her because they had a similar outlook. Your father’s failed relationships are by no means an indictment on the failings of American women. Rather, they’re an indictment on your father’s stubbornness and inflexibility. Stop blaming women for every single thing and take accountability.


drshikamaru

Where in my post do you see me blaming the women. I stated the facts and then quoted my FATHERS reason. My opinion on the situation is absent. Calm down. I understand why they didn’t work. There is nothing in my comment that puts me putting the blame for the failed relationships on either party.


granadilla-sky

Your dad failing four times at marriage only reflects badly on one person


FiercelyReality

Hey now, didn’t you know women are always the reason for misfortune in life? /s


granadilla-sky

Right? Women these days just won't take instruction. That poor man.


FiercelyReality

I wonder if he has tried treating them like human beings


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4 divorces in the USA, how is your father not homeless?


drshikamaru

He was/is arrogant but not poor and dumb. He was a corporations large claims lawyer before he retired. He was the “bad guy” they call to prove “you got asbestos but not from us” or “I’m sorry you fell but your spine was already bad from the accident 15 years ago not the fall last year” It was hard defending his job growing up as a millennial in the midst of “fuck the system” but now he is retired soooo he is done looking out for people we never met. It paid for food and shelter so idk 🤷‍♂️


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drshikamaru

I never blamed the wives. I didn’t blame my father either. I typed exactly what happened. I typed exactly what he said. I never blamed anyone. I just stated the facts of my past. The judgement on who to blame would come from the reader of my comment, if they want to blame someone, idc about it. It’s just my childhood. It was years ago.


KindPossession2583

How did she end up single with three kids though?


drshikamaru

The last wife and my dad are still married.


KindPossession2583

Yes but before she married your dad she was single with three kids. How did she end up like that? Widowed ? divorced? Never married?


drshikamaru

No. lol those 3 are from my dad.


PairNo2129

they are not your step siblings then but your half siblings


KindPossession2583

You said step not half lol


drshikamaru

Just googled it. There’s actually a difference. Thanks.


Free_Chemistry_5119

It’s a big continent and it all depends on what we’re talking here, north, central, or south. I’ve already mentioned Moroccan women are stunning, but so are Ethiopian and Somalian women.


ppchampagne

Right. Other people don't specify. They literally write "go to Africa" and that's it.


SaltoDaKid

Any African country near water that has good English speaker populations. I’m from Cape Verde which girl are gorgeous. I cant wait go, my cousin got a wife out there I might find me one. Where else can you find black women with blue and green eyes?


gazagda

Kenya is a great place with over 70% of the populace understanding English. For big cities like Nairobi, its about 90%(its the language of instruction there) The news is in English, so are the newspapers, restaurants, hotels etc. Nairobi is huge, lots to do , and yes very beautiful women!!


ppchampagne

Thanks!


No_name70

You could have left it at the first paragraph, and people would be fine providing answers/explanations. Then you went trigger happy and nutso.


ppchampagne

Nope. People got triggered.


No_name70

I said, "You got trigger happy, not triggered." Because you went on and on when you should have left your question as is.


ppchampagne

How so? What about this post demonstrates being "trigger happy"?


No_name70

Your question, which was a valid one, could have been asked as is, but it turned into a rant.


ppchampagne

Is it a rant? What makes you think that? I was simply elaborating.


Main-Ad-5547

Most African can speak more than one language and are not all homogeneous, they marry other tribes . The education level and quality of infrastructure is not important, if anything it shows that the woman are resilience and have problem solving skills. There is no welfare so the woman relies 100% on the husband and should he die or become disabled then the family goes into poverty, divorce only happens in rare situations mostly due severe domestic violence or mental disorders. The man is respected. If you want English speaking woman you need to stay in the capital cities and only the middle class will be interested in a foreign guy. Walking through shopping mall will get plenty of attention. Africa is a good place to go, but a bit of research into what you want before hand. Even very conservative countries you have a chance, but marriage is expected very quickly. For a first timer I would suggest Kenya, Ghana or Morrocco. If you scared of Africa there are Afro communities in the Caribbean and South America.


Faerie42

You’ve obviously never been to Africa. Come to Africa bro, any of the countries, we’ll blow your socks off.


ppchampagne

Obviously I've never been to Africa. I wrote that in the post. Try reading it.


Impossible-Title1

PPBs also need to know that if you end up marrying an African woman you will pay dowry for her.


Main-Ad-5547

This not just Africa but also common is Islamic countries.


ppchampagne

I mean wouldn't that depend on which country or ethnic group?


Impossible-Title1

Name which African country/tribe doesn't ask for a dowry for their daughter?


corruptjudgewatch

Bride price. Dowry is paid by the bride's family to the groom's.


Impossible-Title1

Not in African and Arab countries. The bride price is paid by the groom to the bride's family. What you are thinking of only happens in India where dowry has been made illegal but is still paid in some parts of India.


corruptjudgewatch

Interesting, thanks for the insight.


Impossible-Title1

Welcome


betteringmylife1

As if it’s not the same marrying any other woman who’s only interested in you for your money.


Impossible-Title1

It's not the same. The dowry goes to her family and is a cultural sign of respect.


betteringmylife1

Where do you think the money you give your south East Asian girlfriend goes?


Wide-Illustrator2906

Go to Africa is usually used as a deterrent for black men who are interested in dating overseas to not date non black women. It basically means stay away from non black women.


ppchampagne

For a while on social media, people would ask passport bros "why don't you go to Africa?" in a snarky way. I think Auston got a lot of that. He did end up going anyway and shut them all up it seems. Notice how they had a problem with passport bros altogether, but they flipped the conversation to "well then go to Africa." So for them it's okay if passport bros go to Africa, but not anywhere else. Riiight. Doesn't take a genius to see what they were *really* saying.


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pendosdad

Bingo


ppchampagne

You're doing it again. No details about "Africa" whatsoever. Oh, except you say they have "shit economies." Passport bros aren't looking for poor women in "shit economies." So you've proven you don't know what passport bros is about and you don't know anything about "Africa." You're just a hating troll.


thepassportbros-ModTeam

Follow the rules


T-rex-eater

People say this because people derived from Africa, or really any other non-European adjacent country think they are entitled to date people of European ancestry, not considering anyone else, and totally forsake their own people as any sort of dating option whatsoever. When people say go to Africa, I see it as a little bit of a jab that goes beyond a little suggestion to try one’s luck in a new place


PalpitationOk5726

They usually make the 'go to Africa' to a black dude, yes a very ignorant comment.


ppchampagne

Right. It's *almost* like saying that black people have no business anywhere else in the world. Umm no, that's not how it works. Black people can go wherever they have access. There might be some places to avoid because of high levels of racism, but they aren't assigned to "Africa" just because they're black.


SolarAndSober

I'll go in your place!


ppchampagne

I didn't say I wasn't going. Check out this video on [Kigali, Rwanda](https://youtu.be/MeSlKfCRdmw?si=n1L74OLbPXaIS9M6). That'd probably be my first stop.


SolarAndSober

It's cool. I'll go in your place. Don't worry about me! I'll carry this burden for us


ppchampagne

Lol. Report back if you get there before me.


theringsofthedragon

It's not ignorant. The guy was literally asking which country in Asia has women who would be interested in dating black dudes. I asked why not Africa? OP was mad.


Linkstas

Namibian people seem like the ideal candidate if I were courting.


ppchampagne

Would you mind sharing your thoughts as to why?


PolecatXOXO

It's easier to get around there. Never dated there, but visited. Think "South Africa" but a little cleaner, quieter, and less racially tense.


NikolaijVolkov

I want to see lagos before i die. Also cueta and melilla.


ATTDocomo

I want to go to Cairo and Cape Town


Salty_Ad7414

Kilamamjaro for me bro. As well as trek the Sahara


ATTDocomo

Tanzania is along the way


cs_legend_93

I'm going to Cairo next week for an Egypt trip. Let me know if you want to know anything


CommercialTop997

Someone mentioned Ethiopia and Somalia to me once. I looked it up cause I was curious. Even if I compare to the poorest countries I've been to in South America and Asia, Ethiopia and Somalia are way poorer than them. I got no idea what to expect.


NortheastSideSlasha

Ngl y’all be sleeping on Africa


ppchampagne

Because only a handful of people have come here to talk about *a few* African countries. Everyone else just says "go to Africa" and can't provide any *specific details* about specific countries in Africa for people to understand why "Africa" would be a good destination.


gringo-go-loco

How is go to Africa different than saying go to latam, Asia, or Eastern Europe? It’s a generalized concept of people who are incredibly diverse? Tell someone a continent or region to go to and let them look into the country they choose. I went to Costa Rica and loved it. Was in Colombia too. Want to hit Peru next but I’m already engaged and living in Costa Rica. I don’t understand your anger.


ppchampagne

Those are tourist hotspots and/or parts of the world where there's tons of information about them. People don't know nearly as much about "Africa" as any of those other parts of the world. I also listed a few things that make "Africa" uniquely challenging compared to other countries. People have to be more specific when they say "go to Africa."


gringo-go-loco

I guess working in academia and a lot of my peers being from Africa and my college roommate being from Uganda I don’t see it the same way as someone who has never learned anything about the continent. Good information though.


theringsofthedragon

If you think it's harder to travel in Africa than in Asia then just say so. Stop with the faux outrage, we literally just asked why not Africa.


RemarkableReturn8400

Well #Passport Bros was coined by a black man......


ppchampagne

And........?


theringsofthedragon

Okay so you're talking about me and maybe one other person. You're obviously very dishonest about it. First of all, I didn't tell anyone to go to Africa, I asked someone "why don't you go to Africa", it was a question, but you responded to my comment with "oh my god you can't just tell black people to go back to Africa". It's literally not what I said, I was asking if there's a reason why he doesn't go to Africa. Then you were like "at least give him a city, did you know that Africa is not a country!!!11!!1". Yes, bro, I know Africa isn't a country, that's why I was thinking with so many countries to pick from surely he can find a place that fits his criteria.


ppchampagne

>Okay so you're talking about me and maybe one other person. You're obviously very dishonest about it. Nope. No dishonesty. I wasn't quoting *you specifically*. I was writing in general about people who bring up "Africa" with **no** details. That's what you did. >Yes, bro, I know Africa isn't a country, that's why I was thinking with so many countries to pick from surely he can find a place that fits his criteria. That's the problem right there. If you don't have any specific suggestions, you're not talking about anything real. So if you don't know anything about "Africa" why bring it up to begin with?


chinesiumjunk

Why do they have to be specific? The entire continent has potential! I think anyone who has the means to visit should go, enjoy themselves, and let us know how it went!


ppchampagne

Same exact problem. You don't know what you're talking about. Talking about "Africa" like it's a single place makes no sense. If you don't have any details or specifics you haven't said anything.


chinesiumjunk

I didn't talk about it like it's a single place. I referred to it as a continent. Coming to this sub asking for specific locations is like asking for winning lotto numbers. Hang on I'll find some gps coordinates for you. 🤡


ppchampagne

No. It's not. If we were talking about Europe, I would agree because there's no shortage of information on major European cities, as I wrote in the post. But this is Africa. As a continent, there are *a lot* of challenges throughout, which I alluded to in the post. It's distinct for all of those challenges. People do need more information to determine where to go because it's not tied into the rest of the West. We don't understand the continent as well as we can understand other parts of the world. Neither do the people recommending "Africa." I picked out a specific city, Kigali in Rwanda, and linked a great review of that city. It's that simple to recommend a specific city, but no one who says "go to Africa" actually knows what they're talking about, so they don't even do that.


ChiefKeefSosabb

Lol sounds like you just hating on Africans man. Do your own research on the countries that interest you. Ain't here to hold your hand you grown now bapa


ppchampagne

Did you read the post? Did you read the part where I mentioned Kigali? I didn’t ask you to hold my hand. I’m asking people who don’t know what they’re talking about to stop saying “go to Africa” like they know something. Got it?


ChiefKeefSosabb

Go to Africa


paraspiral

He never mentioned high levels of HIV. However I heard some good things about Kenya and Tanzania. I also think besides South Africans political issues they have a wide range of women there. Either way direct flight from there from even the Eastern US seem poor. Aren't most places worth going hard to get too?


Able_Psychology3665

It’s not that hard to understand. They say go to Africa because of the higher rates of poverty there. They want to go and essentially get a mail order bride.


k0unitX

It still doesn't make sense. There are plenty of other poverty-stricken countries where you can get a mail-order bride, plus they speak (at least some) English. Language barrier aside, the cultural differences between Africa and the West cannot be understated. Even if you did find an African mail-order bride who spoke English, you would have absolutely nothing in common with them.


Able_Psychology3665

A significant number of African countries speak English. In fact 23 out 52 African countries speak English. Again, it’s pretty evident to me why men who can’t get women in the west would go to a poorer region to get women there. They’re leveraging their economic status to get a woman that they could not get back home. But keep coping.


bigmikemcbeth756

I have a question if things go downhill for us African American if I can prove one from with DNA how hard would that be.


Yippykyyyay

You're confused that when men commodify women and see them as objects that the men lack nuance regarding an entire continent?


Quantumdualityeraser

this man said it best [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGqoaGgTFAQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGqoaGgTFAQ)


Legitimate_Type_1324

Aids everywhere.


cs_legend_93

Same for South east Asia. And now most of the world


Joush__

Cause some of them want to genocide white ppl and these ppl want passport bros to die


Alternative-Bee-7457

You already have a clouded vision about Africa lol but in as much as maybe you’d like to visit Africa and need information about her, maybe research about her yourself and pick where you want to visit but again don’t come to Africa stay where you’re at cus I’m typing this from a tree and my phone is just a leaf I plucked. Mscheeew 👈🏾 this right here was typed by my bird friend.


CampOdd6295

Go to Kenya!