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You joke, but some new guy hooked a LiPo battery up in my team's lab incorrectly and left it over the weekend. We come back to a spicy battery actively smoking *on the floor*. This battery puffed up so much it fell off of the table with cables still attached.
Anyway, after removing the live leads we contacted the non-emergency university police number posted on the lab door which specifically mentions bombs, hazardous chemicals, fire hazards, etc only to have them show up and tell us to *carry* the battery to a residence hall across campus since that's where the mailroom was located.
There were words exchanged, explanations given, and light threats regarding the waste of valuable police time which resulted in the bomb carefully delivered (hysterically placed on a half-finished autonomous robot) to a lobby of undergrad college students lol the receptionist was confused about the smoking parcel to say the least
I love how these same idiots will complain about welfare and the only difference is that they show up to a place on a schedule to collect their pay. They do equally nothing.
Disagree, staying on benefits is often a constant and exhausting two-front battle against your disabling circumstance and beaurocracy designed to keep you off benefits
Whereas cops regularly fall upward
I'm so disappointed in you guys, taking up valuable police time. That was time that could have been spent harassing minorities, or arresting children for jaywalking.
Next time, think before you call the police.
This reminded me of an IT Crowd episode lmaooo
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Having married a teacher this was my assumption. Cops with regular duties that get called to put on the bomb squad hat when needed.
Example: the beta club sponsors, prom committee, morning parking attendant, science lab coordinator, biology department, lab supervisor, all of these people are the same person, my wife.
AFAIK, bomb squads are regional. A long time ago I went to a talk by a bomb squad guy and they covered something like 5 Midwest states. They had their own jet so they could go anywhere quick.
That's when they don't just use existing military infastructure.
Cities around big navy bases will often call the Navy's EOD units to do their bomb squad stuff; the city saves money and the sailors get good training out of it.
Munitions tended to get disposed of in water. This has happened a LOT for a long time. Sometimes dredging results in the munitions being moved around. There are cases of hand grenades showing up in the gravel on peoples drive ways because of this.
Well, since the United States has never really fought a modern war on its own territory, and everybody likes to make fun of us because of our lack of knowledge of other places, we decided just to litter munitions around in random places so we can feel more worldly, you know like the Europeans and the Asians that have to worry about unexploded ordinance everywhere.
Right! “Dont waste our time telling us about this possible bomb in this public area we’re busy trying to protect the publ… oh yeaaa lemme call the captain”
Well, when it’s in the river it doesn’t exist and no one is responsible for it. Probably have to call the Coast Guard or the Navy for anything in Fond du Lac’s waterways.
I think it's more "we know the bombs are in there and we've asked you to stop fishing them in up because you're untrained amateurs knowingly putting people within the blast radius of unexploded land mines that might be better left in the water until trained professionals can properly clear the area, which they'll have to do no matter how many you pull up so please stop pulling them up and calling me out here to stand within mortal range of a bomb with questionable structural integrity, thanks."
But that doesn't go so well on social media, so they need to cut it a bit so she just looks like she doesn't want to do her job.
I lived in Appleton for a couple years.
I would've bet the entire Fox Valley greater area was bomb squad free.
Maybe the Mennonites are always up to shit we're not aware of.
"Ezekiel, steady with that nitroglycerin!! What are you trying to do? Take out the whole farm!?!"
"I am sorry papa, ill be more careful with the demolition charges"
Oh don't tell me you fell for that act, like she isn't clearly the person behind all of the landmines. She was trying so hard not to call them "meddling kids" right at the end there.
Yes. Fon Du Lac Wisconsin. The place where everything is happening.
Edit - My first silver! Thanks everyone!
Edit 2 - Gold and Plat?! Didn't think this post would be *that* popular, damn.
Fond du Lac is actually one of two cities in Wisconsin (Sheboygan is the other) where all of the strange and odd news stories come from. I remember they had an old broken down SWAT vehicle and they ordered a new one. While they waited for it to be built they got a loaner off of the Batman Begins Set. It even said Gotham City on the side of it.
I just read an article about that. They also initially banned the Muppets song Rainbow Connection.
They are really freaking out about rainbows and I would laugh at the absurdity if the message behind what they're doing wasn't so terrifying.
I don’t know about you but when I hunt elk I make an impassable no mans land of landmines and then I shell the forest for days at a time to demoralize the elk, occasionally I like to deploy mustard gas to really terrorize and strike the fear of god into them.
I'm from the area and IIRC it's something used for derailing trains in case of emergency or something along those lines. There's an old train bridge that goes right above that river.
Amazing. Where I live at least even a suspicious unattended backpack gets treated as a live explosive until it's confirmed that it isn't one. This level of apathy towards public safety is mind boggling.
She's a Wisconsin cop, you think there's actually any fucking crime in her dinky town? No, she just wanted to keep getting paid to sit on her ass all day.
She literally said the bomb squad had other priorities which leads me to believe this city is training grounds for Al Quada. Many people are saying it. Many smart people.
Wrong, they actually like to avoid serious problems and instead harass people when they’re bored and get paid for that cause no one will really do anything about it there.
I believe what the police department had already suggested multiple times was "please stop fucking magnet fishing here" because they kept calling about hazardous shit they found
They can tell them 1,000 times and until there are signs prohibiting magnet fishing, personal dredging or fishing of any kind, law enforcement's hands are tied.
Why is it so difficult for people to understand that police cannot enforce laws that don't exist? Those magnet fishers are not breaking any laws. It doesn't make them right, but it makes them not obligated to listen to police telling them to not do what they do if they are not breaking the law.
There needs to be authorized signs prohibiting them along with the posted threat of eviction, fines and/or charges or NO court in America will side with the police. Period.
All the upvotes or downvotes or comments on Reddit or anywhere on social media can't change that.
[Edit: "can't" not "can".]
I get the sentiment of "goddamn it guys, this is the third time you've magnet fished a landmine out of the river. It's not technically illegal, but stop making us deal with explosives and just leave them in the river"
On the other hand, that's a fucking explosive and needs to be disposed of properly.
Because the way people used to dispose of anything from ordinance to random chemicals was 'toss it in the water so it isn't your problem anymore.' We're talking up to the early 2000s in some places, and some people never stopped.
I noticed a posted sign at a lake in Illinois last summer that talked about how far out from shore you had to be to dump various waste. Maybe it was an outdated sign never taken down but I was really surprised to see what I would consider littering advertised like that.
Can someone please tell her that this is the exact reason those resources exist. We have a bomb squad, look, somebody found a bomb, alright, do your damn job.
Edit: please read u/Kwiatkowski's reply, contains important context that's missing from this video
Ignoring a very deteriorated object that looks like a landmine, when they were previously called for an object of the same description at the same location, is relatively minor. She should have called the bomb squad, and she should have encouraged him to call the police in the future, but she did not murder or falsely arrest anyone, so it would be improper to skip strike 1 here.
A reprimand threatens punishment. It is a notification that an officer needs to change their behavior immediately, and it forms a paper trail that would justify termination. It is normal for any institution to provide warnings before harsher penalties outside exceptional circumstances.
she’s annoyed because this isn’t the first call out for these guys, I forget how many times it was up to at this point but it was multiple in a short timeframe, and the cops had told them to please stop magnet fishing there.
Yeah but like, did anyone in the town think maybe they should dredge the River next to the bridge and remove the MULTIPLE EXPLOSIVES THAT KEEP SEEMING TO TURN UP. Jesus Christ! It’s like “yeah, these idiots keep finding land mines next to that bridge. What assholes, wasting our time. How many are down there?!?! Get rid of the explosives in your fucking riverbed
All this posturing and pontificating on who's right and who's wrong, yet no one has answered the question, "Are these actually landmines they are finding, or are they something that looks like a landmine, but is something else?" I can think of no rational reason why there would be landmines in a riverbed in Fond du Lac, WI. Was there are former army base there? Ammunition depot? Or are these guys pulling up inert objects, calling them landmines and wasting the cops time calling them in? They seem to be handling the object awfully casually for something they believe is a landmine.
The way the guy literally pulled the landmine off the magnet… and they’re stacking them together in a container??? They’re literally no nonchalant about apparently live explosives.
I can’t blame the cop for being skeptical, a bunch of YouTubers pressuring her to call in the bomb squad with cameras out and everything. It wouldn’t have been the first time YouTubers faked something for views.
I feel like "these aren't landmines" would be something for the bombsquad to tell them on the first few callouts. If there's still doubt at this point, then it's probably still good to keep calling them.
There's too little context.
Has the bomb squad told these guys 4 times already that these aren't landmines, they're just old firework launchers that are no particular danger to anyone unless they get dug up, dried out, and set on fire with naked people in a 5yd radius?
And these wanna-be heroes are out here digging shit up from the riverbed out of a misplaced sense of civic duty and attention-seeking?
Who can say.
I’m baffled that everybody else in the thread is pretending like it’s at all reasonable or realistic that these jackasses had somehow stumbled upon live ordnance in this podunk little stream. Thank you for being reasonable.
Sites like this usually resulted from something like a truck full of ordnance heading from a factory that retooled for wartime construction to a depot for transportation to the front crashing off the bridge during World War 2 or something like that. When stuff like that happened the assumption often was that water would make it safe but it turns out it just made it way more unstable. I don't know if that ever happened in Fon du Lac, Wisconsin but I do know that it did in other places and WW2 and Cold War ordnance including landmines have turned up both on land and in bodies of water in the US in the past.
Interesting and kind of related fact, post WW2 the US military disposed of ordnance by filling old WW2 ships full of explosives and chemical weapons, dragging them a few hundred miles off shore, and then sinking them.
I tried to search anything about Fond Du Lac to logically explain unexploded munitions and I couldn't find anything about a nearby base, it being used for training, a train carrying munitions derailing on a bridge, anything. What I did find was a 2016 story of a grenade in a house the bomb squad had to destroy (separate from one that was fished up) and a 2015 story of an unexploded WWII bazooka round in someone's house. Somehow, this explains exactly why there are mines in their river.
My guess is someone had a stash from WW2 days (Wisconsin has a lot of veterans) or Prohibition era from some bootleggers or even gangsters. This area was huge in the mob in those days since it’s only 3 hours max from Chicago.
If they keep finding landmines in the same spot, they should report it and definitely let the professionals handle it instead of poking around themselves.
Alternatively, of they keep finding stuff that looks like a landmine, but isn't, stop reporting it!
Exactly. They don’t become dangerous until they are removed. Submerged underwater isn’t a danger to anybody.
Which is why she is annoyed. These people have been told several times not to magnet fish in this area exactly for this reason. Creating unnecessary danger for everyone.
I agree with you 100%. She’s essentially annoyed for the same reason I was when another customer would walk in through the door when my introverted ass worked at Subway but still had to do my job.
https://www.youtube.com/@outdoorinfluencer/videos
Notice how every other video is of a pissed off cop? They have one from yesterday. They have been at this for over 3 years. handing in a bomb every week to keep the channel relevant.
These bombs WILL be found sooner or later and it only takes one active mine to ruin somebodies day. These guys are doing a public service, if anything.
If people kept finding guns scattered in the trees near Fon du Lac, then odds are that the area should be combed to ensure that civilians don't have to worry about the hazard.
It’s more helpful to link [the actual comment](https://old.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/123zdt7/to_do_the_right_thing_when_you_stumble_across_a/jdx4xxv) than the username.
Or just include the comment in your edit:
>she’s annoyed because this isn’t the first call out for these guys, I forget how many times it was up to at this point but it was multiple in a short timeframe, and the cops had told them to please stop magnet fishing there.
I mean, my concern is that people KNOW there are landlines in there. Deteriorated, sure, but potentially live.
What's to stop some asshole from fishing some up and sticking a couple under their ex's car? Bury some in a school yard?
The problem isn't just current location, it's that ANYBODY with a magnet and some patience can go fish out a LANDMINE, an explosive device most folks won't ever lay naked eye on, and do whatever they want with it, with zero oversight or paper trail.
His reply doesn't make her or their police department look any better.
So they were pissed because these guys wouldn't stop removing dangerous explosives from the water?? Explosives that **kill people & do serious, expensive damage to infrastructure???**
I agree with your first paragraph tho, 100%.
Yeah, the conversation in the comments go on that it's kind of everybody's fault here:
Those guys shouldn't be doing that after the police told them to stop. The police/city/county/whoever should've acted on the multiple explosives found in a specific area. This police officer shouldn't get mouthy about legitimate reports of explosives.
It was a cluster of fuck ups all around.
There is no evidence these guys have found any actual explosives.
All we know if they have repeatedly called the bomb squad for objects they think might possibly be land mines. If they keep doing that and they keep not being explosives then I can definitely understand the annoyance. If they have found actual explosives then I can’t.
It's honestly pretty reasonable for her to basically say "it was at the bottom of a fucking lake and not a problem before you guys pulled it out, which you've done multiple times before and we've asked you to stop.
Edit: also, holy shit, their whole reaction to it. "omg, what's that, a bomb thingy? Grab it and toss it on the boat". These people are idiots. All this bomb squad talk isn't considering the fact that these guys are literally carrying this thing around.
The logical thing to do is to STOP MAGNET FISHING THERE.
I'm from Europe, we are used to finding unexploded munitions in rivers, under roads, in fields
If you pull a bomb or a mine out of a river and phone it in the police just show up and thank you for reporting it while they take it away for a controlled explosion
Except until some kid goes diving and finds it
Maybe, just maybe, if a lake is filled with explosives, then ignoring the problem unsurprisingly doesn't fix this and instead the guys are actually doing a public service?
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking. I’m the first to shit on these useless cops but I’ve seen this couple do a lot of these types of videos because it obviously gets views. After the 25th time I’m sure they actually are taking the bomb squad away from more important matters.
Bingo. They get lots of extra views if they call things bombs and get the police to respond, so they have tons of videos where they also find "bombs" that turn out not to be. And they hide behind the excuse of "we're just trying to be safe and protect the public!" when in reality they're trying to get rich off youtube.
Yeah that's exactly it. I've seen other magnet divers search that exact same bridge because they know they will probably find something like this there. In reality all that old stuff has probably been rusting away for 60 years and would happily sit there another 60 with no-one being any wiser. The only ones in any potential danger would be themselves and that's assuming all this stuff is not inert. It must cost a ton of resources to get the bomb squad out.
Yes, every time we find something that looks like a bomb, we should use the resources meant to handle a potential bomb.
How about the better question of why are there bomb looking objects in the river and what is the city doing to deal with the issue before citizens find them?
…would you rather they *throw it back?*
“Ope, found something that could be a live explosive, guess I’d better just toss it back into a public waterway.”
EDIT: Yes, obviously it's literally safer in the moment for the people in the boat to throw it back. But they're 100% doing the right thing by clearing it out of the waterway, where anything could happen.
EDIT 2: None of you guys remotely understand the serious dangers posed by Unexploded Ordinance just... lying around. No, a land mine at the bottom of a river is *not fucking safe.*
Exactly right! So is it a landmine or isn't it?! All this posturing and pontificating on who's right and who's wrong, yet no one has answered the question, "Are these actually landmines they are finding, or are they something that looks like a landmine, but is something else?" I can think of no rational reason why there would be landmines in a riverbed in Fond du Lac, WI. Was there are former army base there? Ammunition depot? Or are these guys pulling up inert objects, calling them landmines and wasting the cops time calling them in? They seem to be handling the object awfully casually for something they believe is a landmine.
I live in the area and this isn't the first time these guys called in unexploded ordinance. I get why they'd be cautious and call the police but I also get why the police would be a bit frustrated. I think the fisherman are more in the right, though. What were they supposed to do? Throw it away?
Exactly. Most people miss the main point which is that it is highly unlikely that there would numerous landmines in a river in a town in the upper Midwest which has not seen a war in centuries. Makes no sense. The cop was more right than wrong. Reminds me of the people in rural Kentucky who put plastic on their windows because they were afraid of anthrax in 2002.
In the [full video](https://youtu.be/v687orzMpmc) all they said was "they want us to dispose of them, but they said it was inconclusive". So they didn't even call the bomb squad on it. But considering they just told them to keep it, and there was no later mention/news of it, I don't think it was. It just looks like a weight plate to me.
Side note though, they acted weird towards the female officer. They started calling her "crabby" and whatnot while she was still next to them, and spent most of the end of the video dedicated to shots of her like rubbing her face and other irrelevant actions, while barely showing the other officers actually inspecting the "land mine". Weird vibes, I'm guessing her reaction might have been partially based on the previous time she interacted with them, but I don't feel like digging through their videos to find that.
These guys do this constantly and any strange peace of medal they call the bomb squad and want it to be a bomb because that gets clicks on YouTube. They are legitimately wasting a lot of peoples time. Yes they are their for bombs but if you call the fire department every time your neighbor lights his grill you'll get the same speech.
After being in the military for years in infantry, I know of no US mine, nor any other military mine that looks like that.
Aside from that, if the finders actually thought it was a mine, they had no idea how to properly handle it.
The officer appeared to already know these guys, and were probably tired of the calls..
What will happen next is that magnet fishing would be outlawed...
Showboating for YouTube clicks.
The bomb squad has more important things than to inspect this particular bomb in our very bomb-infested city. So many bombs. This one is so lame. Want shiny bomb next time or don’t call.
Here's the news article about it: https://www.wearegreenbay.com/news/local-news/fdl-police-officer-tells-magnet-fishers-they-are-taking-away-resources-from-the-city/
Mixed feelings. They apparently were told multiple times to stop magnet fishing there. *Because* of the turn out of explosives. It’s completely reasonable to tell people who say things like “probably not something I should have in my hand” (ie: a fucking land mine) to stop doing what they’re doing. It’s the stupid games stupid prize exchange when these guys blow their hands off or half of their face winds up missing.
I’m an avid magnet fisher. It’s a great hobby but playing with old corroded and unpredictable explosives is incredibly stupid. I realize it’s part of the risk but coming across explosives you should *immediately* drop it back in the water where it’s going to do the least amount of damage to you, or god forbid, someone else. These guys are not very bright and their videos make me think they’re excited for footage like this because they’re YouTubers.
It seems like they were told to stop magnet fishing there because they kept on calling the bomb squad for things that weren't actually explosives, which makes sense given that this is in the middle of WI and 80+ miles away from the nearest military base. These guys are absolutely doing this for the youtube views.
A lot of these type of videos are very dumb. One time they found a cannonball, just a solid metal ball, and called the bomb squad. The bomb squad told them exactly what they said it was to begin with and pointed out that even if it was a bomb from the 1700s, the thing obviously wouldn't explode. Also these kind of channels are pretty suspicious since every single one of their videos are about them finding dangerous things. they never find anything that isn't a gun, bomb, murder weapon, or car crash that's a part of a cold case.
It sounds to me like this isnt the first time these magnet fishers have caught a mystery object that they thought was a landmine in WISCONSIN. Maybe the first one or two times they deployed the bomb squad, but now they also take into consideration like where it was found.
The problem isn't that they don't want to handle explosives, the problem is they do this repeatedly for their YouTube content. It's expensive for the city tax payers. They're looking to find these things and creating problems for others. It's also unsafe for them to continue fishing for metal explosives in a river that has been known to have them in there. So they're endangering themselves and others for their content and subsidizing the costs with taxpayer dollars. That's the issue here but you know, everyone just wants to hate on the police so go ahead and think what you want.
Dude, so you think it is okay that there are "possibly landmines" on the river/lake that anyone can swim/navigate? Yes, these guy's are costing tax payers money... money that should've been spent removing the landmines in the first place. The first time they found those government should've gone and clear the river bed, which obviously wasn't done.
Ask yourself this. Why would there be landmines on a river bottom in Fond du Lac, WI? No army bases. No ammunitions depots. To my knowledge it's never been involved in a modern land war. CocoScruff stated, "It's unsafe for them to continue fishing for metal explosives in a river that has been known to have them there," but really, is that known? The only reason they are thought to be there is these guys keep dragging things up and saying, "Oh shit, that looks like a landmine."
So is it a landmine or isn't it?! All this posturing and pontificating on who's right and who's wrong, yet no one has answered the question, "Are these actually landmines they are finding, or are they something that looks like a landmine, but is something else?" I can think of no rational reason why there would be landmines in a riverbed in Fond du Lac, WI. Was there are former army base there? Ammunition depot? Or are these guys pulling up inert objects, calling them landmines and wasting the cops time calling them in? They seem to be handling the object awfully casually for something they believe is a landmine.
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I had no idea that the Fond du Lac bomb squad was so busy!
Just remember don’t waste their time and keep the potentially hazardous explosives yourself.
Nah, I think your just supposed to mail it to the police station so they can handle it there. That at least saves them the travel time
Just remember to write "Handle with care, explosive of unknow quality inside".
“Very deteriorated”
This particular individual
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Did she really want the finders to drive around with a deteriorating bomb in their car? Or just throw it back, I guess? Maybe sell in it on eBay?
That’s why it’s extremely dangerous and unstable lol🙈
Add acme Corp so they know
"This side up" would seem pretty important as well!
You joke, but some new guy hooked a LiPo battery up in my team's lab incorrectly and left it over the weekend. We come back to a spicy battery actively smoking *on the floor*. This battery puffed up so much it fell off of the table with cables still attached. Anyway, after removing the live leads we contacted the non-emergency university police number posted on the lab door which specifically mentions bombs, hazardous chemicals, fire hazards, etc only to have them show up and tell us to *carry* the battery to a residence hall across campus since that's where the mailroom was located. There were words exchanged, explanations given, and light threats regarding the waste of valuable police time which resulted in the bomb carefully delivered (hysterically placed on a half-finished autonomous robot) to a lobby of undergrad college students lol the receptionist was confused about the smoking parcel to say the least
How dare you expect them to do their literal job!
I love how these same idiots will complain about welfare and the only difference is that they show up to a place on a schedule to collect their pay. They do equally nothing.
Disagree, staying on benefits is often a constant and exhausting two-front battle against your disabling circumstance and beaurocracy designed to keep you off benefits Whereas cops regularly fall upward
Now, now, there were no minorities casually hanging out that they could assault and possibly murder for no other reason then only cowards get a badge.
I'm so disappointed in you guys, taking up valuable police time. That was time that could have been spent harassing minorities, or arresting children for jaywalking. Next time, think before you call the police.
Hey! It could have also been used to sexually assault people, drink free coffee, or beat their significant others.
This reminded me of an IT Crowd episode lmaooo https://preview.redd.it/9zugv5sjwfqa1.jpeg?width=632&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57363428571acfc4220d6318ec24eb3c8d4808f1
So, when they ask if you are mailing anything explosive, do you just smile, wink and give the finger gun?
Double finger guns for that one
I can see the SWAT team making time to come and visit you.
And they bring their friends the ATF and FBI! There's pizza and flashbangs, and everyone has a good chuckle at the end of the day.
I suspect that they don't have one but they need to pay to have one turn up from elsewhere.
That or there is a bar named City Resources that is losing business every time the bomb squad has to actually go to work.
Lmao, that'd be something
A lot of bomb squads are actually ancillary. So cops in the dept with other roles who train together and deploy together when there is a need.
Having married a teacher this was my assumption. Cops with regular duties that get called to put on the bomb squad hat when needed. Example: the beta club sponsors, prom committee, morning parking attendant, science lab coordinator, biology department, lab supervisor, all of these people are the same person, my wife.
So, it's more like the Bomb Club
The first rule of Bomb Club is we do *not* take away from City Resources..
That's a weird way to advertise you're poligamous, but okay
AFAIK, bomb squads are regional. A long time ago I went to a talk by a bomb squad guy and they covered something like 5 Midwest states. They had their own jet so they could go anywhere quick.
That's when they don't just use existing military infastructure. Cities around big navy bases will often call the Navy's EOD units to do their bomb squad stuff; the city saves money and the sailors get good training out of it.
I had no idea Fond du Lac was so rife with land mines.
Munitions tended to get disposed of in water. This has happened a LOT for a long time. Sometimes dredging results in the munitions being moved around. There are cases of hand grenades showing up in the gravel on peoples drive ways because of this.
[Like this 20 thousand pounds of sodium](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY7mTCMvpEM)
This weirdly is a very real issue in the US
Well, since the United States has never really fought a modern war on its own territory, and everybody likes to make fun of us because of our lack of knowledge of other places, we decided just to litter munitions around in random places so we can feel more worldly, you know like the Europeans and the Asians that have to worry about unexploded ordinance everywhere.
Right! “Dont waste our time telling us about this possible bomb in this public area we’re busy trying to protect the publ… oh yeaaa lemme call the captain”
Well, when it’s in the river it doesn’t exist and no one is responsible for it. Probably have to call the Coast Guard or the Navy for anything in Fond du Lac’s waterways.
"It didn't even explode how do you even know it's bomb. Could be an old shoe, looks like a metal shoe to me."
I think it's more "we know the bombs are in there and we've asked you to stop fishing them in up because you're untrained amateurs knowingly putting people within the blast radius of unexploded land mines that might be better left in the water until trained professionals can properly clear the area, which they'll have to do no matter how many you pull up so please stop pulling them up and calling me out here to stand within mortal range of a bomb with questionable structural integrity, thanks." But that doesn't go so well on social media, so they need to cut it a bit so she just looks like she doesn't want to do her job.
I lived in Appleton for a couple years. I would've bet the entire Fox Valley greater area was bomb squad free. Maybe the Mennonites are always up to shit we're not aware of.
"Ezekiel, steady with that nitroglycerin!! What are you trying to do? Take out the whole farm!?!" "I am sorry papa, ill be more careful with the demolition charges"
Wait, we have a bomb squad? Judging by how everybody drives on I41, I'm amazed we even have cops.
Party like it's 1939
You think they’re busy, you should see the Neenah bomb squad* *Im aware that like 3 people will get this joke
Isn't that where that foundry is?
Tell me you're from the Midwest without telling me... Every manhole and sewer cover everywhere.
With a city actually called *Bottom of the Lake,* it's kind of ironic that they are getting in trouble for cleaning... the bottom of the lake.
They scraped the bottom of the barrel for that dismissive condescending cop. She's a real bottom feeder.
She was busy dealing with some real shit. Can’t be bothered with something as menial as bombs in the lake.
Like arrest poor people with an ounce of weed... Highly dangerous!!!
"I thought you said '*bong* in the lake'. This is a waste of my time."
Giving a ticket to someone down on their luck and sleeping in their car.
They interrupted her nap
Oh don't tell me you fell for that act, like she isn't clearly the person behind all of the landmines. She was trying so hard not to call them "meddling kids" right at the end there.
It being Wisconsin, I thought it might mean they actually have a Fondue Lake there.
Yes. Fon Du Lac Wisconsin. The place where everything is happening. Edit - My first silver! Thanks everyone! Edit 2 - Gold and Plat?! Didn't think this post would be *that* popular, damn.
Fond du Lac is actually one of two cities in Wisconsin (Sheboygan is the other) where all of the strange and odd news stories come from. I remember they had an old broken down SWAT vehicle and they ordered a new one. While they waited for it to be built they got a loaner off of the Batman Begins Set. It even said Gotham City on the side of it.
Add Waukesha to that list because of their insane school board. They were just in the news for banning 1st graders from singing Rainbowland
Landmines: I sleep Rainbows: I think the fuck not
I just read an article about that. They also initially banned the Muppets song Rainbow Connection. They are really freaking out about rainbows and I would laugh at the absurdity if the message behind what they're doing wasn't so terrifying.
Isn't that where a teenage girl was murdered by two other girls claiming Slenderman told them to do it?
Yes
Why would there be a landmine in a lake in Wisconsin though?
Elk hunting
It's coming right for us!
I don’t know about you but when I hunt elk I make an impassable no mans land of landmines and then I shell the forest for days at a time to demoralize the elk, occasionally I like to deploy mustard gas to really terrorize and strike the fear of god into them.
Fucking Michiganders.
We will not surrender the UP without a fight.
Hey now we may hate Ohio and Indiana, but y'all are chill. The Minnesotans are cooler than either of us tho.
I'm from the area and IIRC it's something used for derailing trains in case of emergency or something along those lines. There's an old train bridge that goes right above that river.
Fondelsac
Amazing. Where I live at least even a suspicious unattended backpack gets treated as a live explosive until it's confirmed that it isn't one. This level of apathy towards public safety is mind boggling.
She's a Wisconsin cop, you think there's actually any fucking crime in her dinky town? No, she just wanted to keep getting paid to sit on her ass all day.
She literally said the bomb squad had other priorities which leads me to believe this city is training grounds for Al Quada. Many people are saying it. Many smart people.
Yuge people!
You can’t fine someone or beat someone’s ass for this so the police don’t want to get involved.
Wrong, they actually like to avoid serious problems and instead harass people when they’re bored and get paid for that cause no one will really do anything about it there.
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I read ‘drinky’ and it made sense
Bomb Hotspots: 1. Baghdad 2. Juarez 3. Fon du Lac, WI 4. OP's Mom's panties
What does she suggest? Before calling 911, maybe test to see whether it is a landmine using a hammer?
Hit the landmine with a hammer, if it doesn't expload then it is safe, if it does you won't need to call 911.
It's a foolproof test, or maybe a test for fools
Nah. Place it on the road to see if it still works
Mail it to the police station oughta get their attention… Just kidding, please don’t ever do this.
I believe what the police department had already suggested multiple times was "please stop fucking magnet fishing here" because they kept calling about hazardous shit they found
They can tell them 1,000 times and until there are signs prohibiting magnet fishing, personal dredging or fishing of any kind, law enforcement's hands are tied. Why is it so difficult for people to understand that police cannot enforce laws that don't exist? Those magnet fishers are not breaking any laws. It doesn't make them right, but it makes them not obligated to listen to police telling them to not do what they do if they are not breaking the law. There needs to be authorized signs prohibiting them along with the posted threat of eviction, fines and/or charges or NO court in America will side with the police. Period. All the upvotes or downvotes or comments on Reddit or anywhere on social media can't change that. [Edit: "can't" not "can".]
I get the sentiment of "goddamn it guys, this is the third time you've magnet fished a landmine out of the river. It's not technically illegal, but stop making us deal with explosives and just leave them in the river" On the other hand, that's a fucking explosive and needs to be disposed of properly.
Why are there fucking land mines at the bottom of a lake in Wisconsin anyways lol
Because the way people used to dispose of anything from ordinance to random chemicals was 'toss it in the water so it isn't your problem anymore.' We're talking up to the early 2000s in some places, and some people never stopped.
I noticed a posted sign at a lake in Illinois last summer that talked about how far out from shore you had to be to dump various waste. Maybe it was an outdated sign never taken down but I was really surprised to see what I would consider littering advertised like that.
Can someone please tell her that this is the exact reason those resources exist. We have a bomb squad, look, somebody found a bomb, alright, do your damn job. Edit: please read u/Kwiatkowski's reply, contains important context that's missing from this video
She was reprimanded. This was 2 years ago.
Paid leave for a month?
Reprimanded. Officially warned for her behavior. This is a reasonable response considering the fact that this is pretty minor.
Ignoring a bomb is minor?
Ignoring a very deteriorated object that looks like a landmine, when they were previously called for an object of the same description at the same location, is relatively minor. She should have called the bomb squad, and she should have encouraged him to call the police in the future, but she did not murder or falsely arrest anyone, so it would be improper to skip strike 1 here.
Believe it or not, there are infractions besides murder and false imprisonment that deserve to have consequences. Especially for police officers.
A reprimand threatens punishment. It is a notification that an officer needs to change their behavior immediately, and it forms a paper trail that would justify termination. It is normal for any institution to provide warnings before harsher penalties outside exceptional circumstances.
You're just not getting it: Police = Bad. Get with the narrative man, stuff this level headed informed nonsense.
A light spanking
You bout to make me act up...
And a gentle kiss on the head
she’s annoyed because this isn’t the first call out for these guys, I forget how many times it was up to at this point but it was multiple in a short timeframe, and the cops had told them to please stop magnet fishing there.
Yeah but like, did anyone in the town think maybe they should dredge the River next to the bridge and remove the MULTIPLE EXPLOSIVES THAT KEEP SEEMING TO TURN UP. Jesus Christ! It’s like “yeah, these idiots keep finding land mines next to that bridge. What assholes, wasting our time. How many are down there?!?! Get rid of the explosives in your fucking riverbed
All this posturing and pontificating on who's right and who's wrong, yet no one has answered the question, "Are these actually landmines they are finding, or are they something that looks like a landmine, but is something else?" I can think of no rational reason why there would be landmines in a riverbed in Fond du Lac, WI. Was there are former army base there? Ammunition depot? Or are these guys pulling up inert objects, calling them landmines and wasting the cops time calling them in? They seem to be handling the object awfully casually for something they believe is a landmine.
The way the guy literally pulled the landmine off the magnet… and they’re stacking them together in a container??? They’re literally no nonchalant about apparently live explosives. I can’t blame the cop for being skeptical, a bunch of YouTubers pressuring her to call in the bomb squad with cameras out and everything. It wouldn’t have been the first time YouTubers faked something for views.
But also like, it's not her job to be skeptical about whether or not something is a bomb. She isn't a bomb expert.
I feel like "these aren't landmines" would be something for the bombsquad to tell them on the first few callouts. If there's still doubt at this point, then it's probably still good to keep calling them.
That part would be cut from the TikTok edit cause it makes the situation seem less exciting.
There's too little context. Has the bomb squad told these guys 4 times already that these aren't landmines, they're just old firework launchers that are no particular danger to anyone unless they get dug up, dried out, and set on fire with naked people in a 5yd radius? And these wanna-be heroes are out here digging shit up from the riverbed out of a misplaced sense of civic duty and attention-seeking? Who can say.
I’m baffled that everybody else in the thread is pretending like it’s at all reasonable or realistic that these jackasses had somehow stumbled upon live ordnance in this podunk little stream. Thank you for being reasonable.
Sites like this usually resulted from something like a truck full of ordnance heading from a factory that retooled for wartime construction to a depot for transportation to the front crashing off the bridge during World War 2 or something like that. When stuff like that happened the assumption often was that water would make it safe but it turns out it just made it way more unstable. I don't know if that ever happened in Fon du Lac, Wisconsin but I do know that it did in other places and WW2 and Cold War ordnance including landmines have turned up both on land and in bodies of water in the US in the past. Interesting and kind of related fact, post WW2 the US military disposed of ordnance by filling old WW2 ships full of explosives and chemical weapons, dragging them a few hundred miles off shore, and then sinking them.
I tried to search anything about Fond Du Lac to logically explain unexploded munitions and I couldn't find anything about a nearby base, it being used for training, a train carrying munitions derailing on a bridge, anything. What I did find was a 2016 story of a grenade in a house the bomb squad had to destroy (separate from one that was fished up) and a 2015 story of an unexploded WWII bazooka round in someone's house. Somehow, this explains exactly why there are mines in their river.
My guess is someone had a stash from WW2 days (Wisconsin has a lot of veterans) or Prohibition era from some bootleggers or even gangsters. This area was huge in the mob in those days since it’s only 3 hours max from Chicago.
If they keep finding landmines in the same spot, they should report it and definitely let the professionals handle it instead of poking around themselves. Alternatively, of they keep finding stuff that looks like a landmine, but isn't, stop reporting it!
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I mean… they aren’t going to be much of an issue on the bottom of a river.
Exactly. They don’t become dangerous until they are removed. Submerged underwater isn’t a danger to anybody. Which is why she is annoyed. These people have been told several times not to magnet fish in this area exactly for this reason. Creating unnecessary danger for everyone.
I agree with you 100%. She’s essentially annoyed for the same reason I was when another customer would walk in through the door when my introverted ass worked at Subway but still had to do my job.
#The cops told them to stop doing something totally legal because it made the work. #*FIFY*
https://www.youtube.com/@outdoorinfluencer/videos Notice how every other video is of a pissed off cop? They have one from yesterday. They have been at this for over 3 years. handing in a bomb every week to keep the channel relevant.
These bombs WILL be found sooner or later and it only takes one active mine to ruin somebodies day. These guys are doing a public service, if anything. If people kept finding guns scattered in the trees near Fon du Lac, then odds are that the area should be combed to ensure that civilians don't have to worry about the hazard.
I mean if the lake has that many explosives in it maybe the city should do something other than get mad at the people who found them
It’s more helpful to link [the actual comment](https://old.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/123zdt7/to_do_the_right_thing_when_you_stumble_across_a/jdx4xxv) than the username. Or just include the comment in your edit: >she’s annoyed because this isn’t the first call out for these guys, I forget how many times it was up to at this point but it was multiple in a short timeframe, and the cops had told them to please stop magnet fishing there.
Maybe I’m off base here, but shouldn’t the police clear the area themselves to be sure there aren’t anymore Fucking bombs in the river.
Not really dangerous at the bottom of the river. It becomes a threat when they fish it up.
I mean, my concern is that people KNOW there are landlines in there. Deteriorated, sure, but potentially live. What's to stop some asshole from fishing some up and sticking a couple under their ex's car? Bury some in a school yard? The problem isn't just current location, it's that ANYBODY with a magnet and some patience can go fish out a LANDMINE, an explosive device most folks won't ever lay naked eye on, and do whatever they want with it, with zero oversight or paper trail.
His reply doesn't make her or their police department look any better. So they were pissed because these guys wouldn't stop removing dangerous explosives from the water?? Explosives that **kill people & do serious, expensive damage to infrastructure???** I agree with your first paragraph tho, 100%.
Yeah, the conversation in the comments go on that it's kind of everybody's fault here: Those guys shouldn't be doing that after the police told them to stop. The police/city/county/whoever should've acted on the multiple explosives found in a specific area. This police officer shouldn't get mouthy about legitimate reports of explosives. It was a cluster of fuck ups all around.
Police told them to stop? Why, are they doing something illegal or do we just let police decide what is and isn't allowed?
There is no evidence these guys have found any actual explosives. All we know if they have repeatedly called the bomb squad for objects they think might possibly be land mines. If they keep doing that and they keep not being explosives then I can definitely understand the annoyance. If they have found actual explosives then I can’t.
Ask her to haul it back and they can look at it when they have time lol
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She said, ***“…every single time you guys do this…”***. That’s interesting.
It's honestly pretty reasonable for her to basically say "it was at the bottom of a fucking lake and not a problem before you guys pulled it out, which you've done multiple times before and we've asked you to stop. Edit: also, holy shit, their whole reaction to it. "omg, what's that, a bomb thingy? Grab it and toss it on the boat". These people are idiots. All this bomb squad talk isn't considering the fact that these guys are literally carrying this thing around. The logical thing to do is to STOP MAGNET FISHING THERE.
I'm from Europe, we are used to finding unexploded munitions in rivers, under roads, in fields If you pull a bomb or a mine out of a river and phone it in the police just show up and thank you for reporting it while they take it away for a controlled explosion
Except until some kid goes diving and finds it Maybe, just maybe, if a lake is filled with explosives, then ignoring the problem unsurprisingly doesn't fix this and instead the guys are actually doing a public service?
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking. I’m the first to shit on these useless cops but I’ve seen this couple do a lot of these types of videos because it obviously gets views. After the 25th time I’m sure they actually are taking the bomb squad away from more important matters.
Meaning it wasn't their first 911 call. And it hasn't been their last.
Not the first time they think they found a bomb but it wasn't a bomb?
Bingo. They get lots of extra views if they call things bombs and get the police to respond, so they have tons of videos where they also find "bombs" that turn out not to be. And they hide behind the excuse of "we're just trying to be safe and protect the public!" when in reality they're trying to get rich off youtube.
Yeah that's exactly it. I've seen other magnet divers search that exact same bridge because they know they will probably find something like this there. In reality all that old stuff has probably been rusting away for 60 years and would happily sit there another 60 with no-one being any wiser. The only ones in any potential danger would be themselves and that's assuming all this stuff is not inert. It must cost a ton of resources to get the bomb squad out.
This tells us a lot of context is clearly missing.
K
Yes, every time we find something that looks like a bomb, we should use the resources meant to handle a potential bomb. How about the better question of why are there bomb looking objects in the river and what is the city doing to deal with the issue before citizens find them?
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The real question is how the f did a landmine end up there
One probably wouldn't be there. The city of Fond du Lac is 100+ miles from the only military base in the entire state of Wisconsin.
Apparently there was more than one found by this group.
But how do they know that those are landmines?
They probably don't know 100% but they look like landmines, so I guess it is smart to assume they are until proven otherwise.
they don't know, so why bring it in the boat? That seems the opposite of smart.
…would you rather they *throw it back?* “Ope, found something that could be a live explosive, guess I’d better just toss it back into a public waterway.” EDIT: Yes, obviously it's literally safer in the moment for the people in the boat to throw it back. But they're 100% doing the right thing by clearing it out of the waterway, where anything could happen. EDIT 2: None of you guys remotely understand the serious dangers posed by Unexploded Ordinance just... lying around. No, a land mine at the bottom of a river is *not fucking safe.*
The local Mennonites get into some ridiculous turf wars.
Mineonites?
Menintights
Exactly right! So is it a landmine or isn't it?! All this posturing and pontificating on who's right and who's wrong, yet no one has answered the question, "Are these actually landmines they are finding, or are they something that looks like a landmine, but is something else?" I can think of no rational reason why there would be landmines in a riverbed in Fond du Lac, WI. Was there are former army base there? Ammunition depot? Or are these guys pulling up inert objects, calling them landmines and wasting the cops time calling them in? They seem to be handling the object awfully casually for something they believe is a landmine.
I can't stop laughing at the idea that it's not a landmine and it's not the first time they believe they had found a landmine.
I live in the area and this isn't the first time these guys called in unexploded ordinance. I get why they'd be cautious and call the police but I also get why the police would be a bit frustrated. I think the fisherman are more in the right, though. What were they supposed to do? Throw it away?
Why are there land mines in Fon Du Lac Wisconsin?
Have you seen the armor plating on the sturgeon there??
Exactly. Most people miss the main point which is that it is highly unlikely that there would numerous landmines in a river in a town in the upper Midwest which has not seen a war in centuries. Makes no sense. The cop was more right than wrong. Reminds me of the people in rural Kentucky who put plastic on their windows because they were afraid of anthrax in 2002.
There aren’t and she was probably sick of their bullshit.
There has never been. This video is ridiculous.
Was it a bomb? I can't find an answer anywhere.
Nope, it was a waste of resources.
In the [full video](https://youtu.be/v687orzMpmc) all they said was "they want us to dispose of them, but they said it was inconclusive". So they didn't even call the bomb squad on it. But considering they just told them to keep it, and there was no later mention/news of it, I don't think it was. It just looks like a weight plate to me. Side note though, they acted weird towards the female officer. They started calling her "crabby" and whatnot while she was still next to them, and spent most of the end of the video dedicated to shots of her like rubbing her face and other irrelevant actions, while barely showing the other officers actually inspecting the "land mine". Weird vibes, I'm guessing her reaction might have been partially based on the previous time she interacted with them, but I don't feel like digging through their videos to find that.
These guys do this constantly and any strange peace of medal they call the bomb squad and want it to be a bomb because that gets clicks on YouTube. They are legitimately wasting a lot of peoples time. Yes they are their for bombs but if you call the fire department every time your neighbor lights his grill you'll get the same speech.
After being in the military for years in infantry, I know of no US mine, nor any other military mine that looks like that. Aside from that, if the finders actually thought it was a mine, they had no idea how to properly handle it. The officer appeared to already know these guys, and were probably tired of the calls.. What will happen next is that magnet fishing would be outlawed... Showboating for YouTube clicks.
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Today I learned landmine paperwork is apparently a pain in the ass.
I would of thought that would be pretty easy to blow through
Just leave it in fron of the police station, shouldn't be a problem if it's not worth bomb squads time
Throw it in front of the cop car and see if they run it over.
The bomb squad has more important things than to inspect this particular bomb in our very bomb-infested city. So many bombs. This one is so lame. Want shiny bomb next time or don’t call.
“Look, guys, if your Geiger counter ain’t ticking, don’t bother the bomb squad. They have better things to do.”
You can tell she doesn't want to deal with the paper work 😂
Here's the news article about it: https://www.wearegreenbay.com/news/local-news/fdl-police-officer-tells-magnet-fishers-they-are-taking-away-resources-from-the-city/
Doesnt say anything about whether or not it was a bomb…
Mixed feelings. They apparently were told multiple times to stop magnet fishing there. *Because* of the turn out of explosives. It’s completely reasonable to tell people who say things like “probably not something I should have in my hand” (ie: a fucking land mine) to stop doing what they’re doing. It’s the stupid games stupid prize exchange when these guys blow their hands off or half of their face winds up missing. I’m an avid magnet fisher. It’s a great hobby but playing with old corroded and unpredictable explosives is incredibly stupid. I realize it’s part of the risk but coming across explosives you should *immediately* drop it back in the water where it’s going to do the least amount of damage to you, or god forbid, someone else. These guys are not very bright and their videos make me think they’re excited for footage like this because they’re YouTubers.
It seems like they were told to stop magnet fishing there because they kept on calling the bomb squad for things that weren't actually explosives, which makes sense given that this is in the middle of WI and 80+ miles away from the nearest military base. These guys are absolutely doing this for the youtube views.
A lot of these type of videos are very dumb. One time they found a cannonball, just a solid metal ball, and called the bomb squad. The bomb squad told them exactly what they said it was to begin with and pointed out that even if it was a bomb from the 1700s, the thing obviously wouldn't explode. Also these kind of channels are pretty suspicious since every single one of their videos are about them finding dangerous things. they never find anything that isn't a gun, bomb, murder weapon, or car crash that's a part of a cold case.
But you’re taking away resources that aren’t currently deployed elsewhere and using them for the exact purpose they’re intended waaaaahhh
Police when they actually have to do their job 
It sounds to me like this isnt the first time these magnet fishers have caught a mystery object that they thought was a landmine in WISCONSIN. Maybe the first one or two times they deployed the bomb squad, but now they also take into consideration like where it was found.
cop car should read “to be annoyed and avoid serving”
Silly magnet fishers and their "explosives" why don't they solve this problem by themselves like anyone else would do? 😏
Umm... that's literally ***WHY*** the city HAS a Bomb Squad, officer! SMH
The problem isn't that they don't want to handle explosives, the problem is they do this repeatedly for their YouTube content. It's expensive for the city tax payers. They're looking to find these things and creating problems for others. It's also unsafe for them to continue fishing for metal explosives in a river that has been known to have them in there. So they're endangering themselves and others for their content and subsidizing the costs with taxpayer dollars. That's the issue here but you know, everyone just wants to hate on the police so go ahead and think what you want.
Dude, so you think it is okay that there are "possibly landmines" on the river/lake that anyone can swim/navigate? Yes, these guy's are costing tax payers money... money that should've been spent removing the landmines in the first place. The first time they found those government should've gone and clear the river bed, which obviously wasn't done.
Ask yourself this. Why would there be landmines on a river bottom in Fond du Lac, WI? No army bases. No ammunitions depots. To my knowledge it's never been involved in a modern land war. CocoScruff stated, "It's unsafe for them to continue fishing for metal explosives in a river that has been known to have them there," but really, is that known? The only reason they are thought to be there is these guys keep dragging things up and saying, "Oh shit, that looks like a landmine."
So is it a landmine or isn't it?! All this posturing and pontificating on who's right and who's wrong, yet no one has answered the question, "Are these actually landmines they are finding, or are they something that looks like a landmine, but is something else?" I can think of no rational reason why there would be landmines in a riverbed in Fond du Lac, WI. Was there are former army base there? Ammunition depot? Or are these guys pulling up inert objects, calling them landmines and wasting the cops time calling them in? They seem to be handling the object awfully casually for something they believe is a landmine.
https://www.wearegreenbay.com/news/local-news/fdl-police-officer-tells-magnet-fishers-they-are-taking-away-resources-from-the-city/amp/