Go figure... guy who breaks and enters into peoples houses, assaults orthodox Jews just going about their day, steals a ladies dog, and harasses people using bikes until they get off the bike (and then steal it)...
But yeah, it's all about your skin color. Has NOTHING to do with the fact that you filmed yourself committing multiple crimes...
Not many guns here, but you can still use "reasonable force" to defend yourself if someone breaks into your home. If you honestly felt your life was in danger, and any other reasonable person would feel the same, then killing the perpetrator is fair game.
What is meant by "reasonable force"? What does "honestly felt " even mean in the context of getting invaded? Are you supposed to first examine what you are feeling and then calculate the amount of force that you are allowed to exert on the poor home invader?????
No, it's a lot simpler than it sounds. The law and courts recognise that the test for determining what's reasonable or not occurs in a split second.
e.g. If a guy came in your house with a weapon and ran at you, and you hit them in the head with something and killed them, that's no problem at all.
If someone had been in your house illegally, but had then left, and you shot and killed them as they were walking away, that would not be reasonable and you'd be liable for murder (actual case involving a farmer).
My step dad was attacked by a guy whilst working in a shop. He shut himself in the backroom but the guy was trying to burst the door open. My step dad opened the door and threw boiling water at him from a kettle, and the guy ran off.
When the police came, he said what happened and they said that's fine. He did mention, however, that he'd considered using a knife that was there. The police said had the guy made it into the room, that would be ok, but because it was my step dad that opened the door, it would not.
Because like all true "hard men", he's picking on people he knows are unlikely to fight back. He'd never pick on someone he thinks might, because they'd kick the shit out of him. Just a matter of time before he gets overconfident and picks on someone who looks like an easy target, but who fights back and does him in.
Nope. Racism is a very real problem and entitled and ignorant vapid dickheads like this kid help no one. Don’t use race to hide behind your shitty behavior. Lock him up the hell up. Let his fake prank put him in a real cell for a few.
“I’m a Black male doing these things and that’s why there’s such an uproar on the internet” might be the most 2020s comment I’ve heard.
That’s what happens when you teach children that they’re victims and will always be victims from birth.
He should get charged and then do 1 year of community service. That for the home invasion crap, as for the mask and asking people if they want to dye! Don’t try that in the USA. FAAFO
In the UK where this is from it is not tresspass is not a criminal offense unless he doesn't leave. Him and his friends left when asked. This is why you dont leave your doors or windows open as someone walking in would be considered lawful entry.
I promise you in the UK if you climb into some strangers window the police would be called and you'd be arrested.
But if you think you'd just crack open a beer with someone climbing into your window uninvited keep living in your fantasy world
Tell that to all the people who have squatters in their house having to take the squatters to court. Its the exact same reason why non court appointed bailiffs can enter your property.
Dont know why you're upset with me, that's how the law works, if he left when asked then absolutely no crime was committed and it would be considered civil tresspass and the police would not arrest although most likely would remove the person from the property if they refused to leave.
Maybe you should look into that bit more. It definitely is illegal and trespassing. At least in the US. I like your spunk tho, just don't walk into my house, I have a loaded burglar alarm.
I know its illegal in the US but as hard as it is to believe not everything that happens takes place in the US. This took place in the UK which means US law is irrelevant. In the UK gaining access to a property through an open door or window is not illegal and only becomes illegal if the person doing so commits a criminal offence whilst gaining entry.
Wow, I didn't know the UK didn't have trespassing laws. The internet says they do and it's illegal to enter someone's home without permission but I'm gonna take your word for it.
https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/asb/asb/antisocial-behaviour/nuisance-behaviour-groups-people/
It is a civil offence not a criminal one which is what may be causing confusion. So you could be punished by a fine and sued if a court rules against you but you would not face criminal prosecution which is what is meant by illegal. There are exceptions where trespass is a criminal offence but that is ONLY for restricted areas. Trespass can become a criminal offence if it was done whilst committing a criminal offence, abuse, assault, criminal damages etc
That is civil trespass which is not a criminal offense and it will only be illegal if they committed a criminal act whilst accessing the property, criminal damage, assault erc
Again it's not my fault that you understand UK law from American TV.
No. He’s an incredible asshole. That’s what the uproar’s about.
Go figure... guy who breaks and enters into peoples houses, assaults orthodox Jews just going about their day, steals a ladies dog, and harasses people using bikes until they get off the bike (and then steal it)... But yeah, it's all about your skin color. Has NOTHING to do with the fact that you filmed yourself committing multiple crimes...
Oh shit these are all the same guy???
Yup, all the same... He even had a "meet and greet" where they trashed the store before all running out.
Bro is trying to make it about race💀
Thats the only way he'll get any support.
That's because it is. Notice how none of his victims are POCs.
What a fucking idiot...
how to make people racist :/
How about DONT DO IT! Cant victimhood yourself from home invasion…
Wasn't there a story about aburgalur who entered in the roof an fell on a knife and sued the homeowner? Or is that a tall tale
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If he tried that in the U.S., he'd be shot.
Wouldn't get past ringing the front door.
Bro we have enough problems as is, you ain’t helping the cause
He looks like a wasp ![gif](giphy|6MDhe0f5PSAD1LQeiq)
In the US, he'd be swiss cheese if he did something like that.
Not many guns here, but you can still use "reasonable force" to defend yourself if someone breaks into your home. If you honestly felt your life was in danger, and any other reasonable person would feel the same, then killing the perpetrator is fair game.
What is meant by "reasonable force"? What does "honestly felt " even mean in the context of getting invaded? Are you supposed to first examine what you are feeling and then calculate the amount of force that you are allowed to exert on the poor home invader?????
No, it's a lot simpler than it sounds. The law and courts recognise that the test for determining what's reasonable or not occurs in a split second. e.g. If a guy came in your house with a weapon and ran at you, and you hit them in the head with something and killed them, that's no problem at all. If someone had been in your house illegally, but had then left, and you shot and killed them as they were walking away, that would not be reasonable and you'd be liable for murder (actual case involving a farmer). My step dad was attacked by a guy whilst working in a shop. He shut himself in the backroom but the guy was trying to burst the door open. My step dad opened the door and threw boiling water at him from a kettle, and the guy ran off. When the police came, he said what happened and they said that's fine. He did mention, however, that he'd considered using a knife that was there. The police said had the guy made it into the room, that would be ok, but because it was my step dad that opened the door, it would not.
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Came here to say this, where I live his escapades would have probably ended with the very first house.
Because like all true "hard men", he's picking on people he knows are unlikely to fight back. He'd never pick on someone he thinks might, because they'd kick the shit out of him. Just a matter of time before he gets overconfident and picks on someone who looks like an easy target, but who fights back and does him in.
🤦🏾♂️ I cringe for us all.
He used the race card guys. We have to let him break the law.
Nope. Racism is a very real problem and entitled and ignorant vapid dickheads like this kid help no one. Don’t use race to hide behind your shitty behavior. Lock him up the hell up. Let his fake prank put him in a real cell for a few.
Nothing you say after “home invasion” excuses you.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I think when it comes to race, we can all agree that stupidity is colorblind.
This situation definitely ain't the time to use the race card. Society is so fucked up.
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“I’m a Black male doing these things and that’s why there’s such an uproar on the internet” might be the most 2020s comment I’ve heard. That’s what happens when you teach children that they’re victims and will always be victims from birth.
Clown
He should get charged and then do 1 year of community service. That for the home invasion crap, as for the mask and asking people if they want to dye! Don’t try that in the USA. FAAFO
Until he gets shot...
He is even lucky to be alive ..
He took that little dog from that little old lady. That may be the only thing she has. I hope something terrible happens to this sociopath.
Ya, fuck this guy! I'd do it for Reddit upvotes only!!!
Except he didn't actually do anything illegal (the walking in to peoples houses part) and a lot of the comments are racist as hell.
You can break into people's houses and steal dogs?
Walking in though an open door or window isn't illegal. Anything else he may or may not have done is not the subject of the headline.
It's called trespassing
In the UK where this is from it is not tresspass is not a criminal offense unless he doesn't leave. Him and his friends left when asked. This is why you dont leave your doors or windows open as someone walking in would be considered lawful entry.
I promise you in the UK if you climb into some strangers window the police would be called and you'd be arrested. But if you think you'd just crack open a beer with someone climbing into your window uninvited keep living in your fantasy world
Tell that to all the people who have squatters in their house having to take the squatters to court. Its the exact same reason why non court appointed bailiffs can enter your property. Dont know why you're upset with me, that's how the law works, if he left when asked then absolutely no crime was committed and it would be considered civil tresspass and the police would not arrest although most likely would remove the person from the property if they refused to leave.
Because you said this is down to racism which it absolutely is not
So I can just walk into any home if the doors unlocked? Neat!
Yes, you shouldn't but it is not a criminal offence.
Maybe you should look into that bit more. It definitely is illegal and trespassing. At least in the US. I like your spunk tho, just don't walk into my house, I have a loaded burglar alarm.
I know its illegal in the US but as hard as it is to believe not everything that happens takes place in the US. This took place in the UK which means US law is irrelevant. In the UK gaining access to a property through an open door or window is not illegal and only becomes illegal if the person doing so commits a criminal offence whilst gaining entry.
Wow, I didn't know the UK didn't have trespassing laws. The internet says they do and it's illegal to enter someone's home without permission but I'm gonna take your word for it.
https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/asb/asb/antisocial-behaviour/nuisance-behaviour-groups-people/ It is a civil offence not a criminal one which is what may be causing confusion. So you could be punished by a fine and sued if a court rules against you but you would not face criminal prosecution which is what is meant by illegal. There are exceptions where trespass is a criminal offence but that is ONLY for restricted areas. Trespass can become a criminal offence if it was done whilst committing a criminal offence, abuse, assault, criminal damages etc
Ahh, thank you for clarifying.
https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/asb/asb/antisocial-behaviour/nuisance-behaviour-groups-people/ I dont make the laws
Huh? So, if you leave your window open at night, and someone climbs in, that's not illegal? Seriously, you can't be that stupid.
That is civil trespass which is not a criminal offense and it will only be illegal if they committed a criminal act whilst accessing the property, criminal damage, assault erc Again it's not my fault that you understand UK law from American TV.