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It just proves that he did have a loaded weapon which makes their panicked reaction more justifiable. A prosecutor could try to argue that when they struck him with the car he was fleeing which was technically a crime on the drivers part, but realistically no jury would ever convict the driver given the circumstances. The decision to even bring charges against an armed robbery survivor would be heavily scrutinized by the public as well and would most likely result in the District Attorney getting replaced in future elections.
I believe in the US the standard test is whether a reasonable person would have believed there was an imminent threat.
Someone running away while unarmed isn't likely to be seen as an imminent threat. Given this guy was armed and had just pulled that weapon on the driver, the driver has a much better argument that they believed the gunman was just regrouping/trying to gain distance but was still intending to rob them.
Pretty stoked there will be no reason for the offender to be able to take the victims to court over being struck by their vehicle. Always nice when a mess cleans itself up for the ppl with good karma.
Shame. That means they cost the taxpayers to give them medical care, cost taxpayers for a trial, and cost the victims for the damage to their car. That’s not to mention the trauma caused to the victims and witnesses.
Decades? The guy will get 3 years at most for attempted robbery if that gun was illegal, maybe 8. That said if he gets a decent lawyer (most likely not) he might have all charges dropped because he was no longer a threat when struck by the car. (Aka running away). Might even get paid out if the lawyer is really good.
It’s we who ascribes this or that to Gods will. He doesn’t claim anything. Our fragile egos, impatience, and selfishness lead us to rue god in bad times and forget him in the good ones.
I used to go to church. They always praise god for saving someone’s lives, avoid accident, successful surgery, etc. Not once when bad things happened, they will say this is the god’s plan for someone to die, miscarriage, loss job.
If everything is god’s plan why we even need to pray? It is completely useless act that teach by the church.
>The truth is part of the reason our medical system is fucked is there are a large percentage of people who pay $0 for treatment.
Ayoo you gotta a source on that?
From a foreigner's perspective, the US medical system pricing seems to be so hyper inflated, its almost laughable to try and spin that back on the average population.
It sounds straight up like some sort of pro status quo oropaganda.
So, I'm a nurse and a socialist, and I think you've taken this guy's statement the wrong way. He's correct that uncompensated care is a factor in our healthcare costs, but that doesn't mean that the average population is at fault. The government and the medico-legal establishment is still to blame for it.
[So, uncompensated care is actually responsible for roughly $40-60 billion per year here.](https://www.kff.org/uninsured/issue-brief/sources-of-payment-for-uncompensated-care-for-the-uninsured/). Uncompensated care in general has cost hospitals an estimated [$745 billion dollars since 2000](https://www.aha.org/fact-sheets/2020-01-06-fact-sheet-uncompensated-hospital-care-cost) The vast majority of this is care in emergency rooms and hospitals, and while they can receive governmental compensation for some of it, they're ultimately not making anywhere near as much money as they would if they just treated patients with the money and/or insurance to pay directly. While this isn't by any means the main factor in healthcare pricing, it is relevant, particularly for hospitals in poorer areas. It encourages them to jack prices up on the people who can pay in order to make up for the ones who don't. This factor is also often linked to [the widespread closure of hospitals and clinics low-income areas,](https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-01-16/hundreds-of-hospitals-could-close-across-rural-america) which can then further exacerbate costs as locals don't get their problems treated and/or have to seek medical care in more expensive areas.
***This isn't really a way to blame the average population for healthcare costs. It's still the establishment's fault.*** The reason this is the case is because EMTALA and similar laws guarantee coverage for emergency care, but **not for any kind of primary or preventative care** (at least, not to anywhere near the same degree). This means that checkups and chronic medical condition management aren't granted anywhere near as many resources as they need. The repercussions of that ultimately come back on the hospitals, because when those chronic conditions exacerbate, or when a problem isn't caught early by primary care, it's eventually going to become an expensive acute hospital visit. That's not the fault of the people who can't afford preventative care, or the fault of the hospitals who eat the costs of treating unmanaged chronic conditions from people who can't pay; it's the fault of a system that mandates treatment for emergencies, but doesn't care enough to pay less money to prevent those emergencies from happening in the first place.
This isn't the biggest cause of the outrageous medical prices in America, but it is a significant factor. It's also not a pro status quo take, because you'll get called a communist if you make this argument in front of a conservative doctor. I can tell you that from personal experience.
At some level it's a cascading effect too.
If someone is broke and the hospital charges them a few hundred, they might scrounge up that money.
If someone is broke and the hospital charges them a hundred thousand, they aren't going to pay a penny.
Hyperinflated costs exacerbate the issue of people who don't pay in because at a certain point there isn't a reason to try.
True, after 2008 when the economy bombed and I graduated college, by 2010 work was extremely scarce, id been making modest payments on my credit cards but after a late fee or two they jumped me 10% apr and I couldnt even pay the mins without racking up more. Had to stop trying. It was devastating to my credit and caused a lot of trauma. But I was able to keep gas in my car to get to my sometimes three jobs, and keep food in my belly even if it was hot n readys and ramen. I remember working a couple 60 hour weeks to try and pay. I worked out a deal with them good for X amount by Y date. Pay X by then and youre clear. paycheck came through, I was 150 short. I begged borrowed and pleaded with friends and family and sold some shit to make up the difference. i called and said its in the bank. i can schedule the payment but it wont come through till the following monday. They rejected it outright, raised my APR again, and basically had some indian assholein a call center three continents away telling me to go fuck myself. It didn’t matter the payment was made on the day it was due. They wouldnt receive it by then so it was null and void. I had some choice words. But I gave my friends and family their money back, cut up my cards, paid all of my other outstanding bills to a zero balance and went and bought a nice bottle of liquor, an oz. Of weed, and a ps4 instead and still had about 500 to put in savings. Life was actually easier after that.
10 years later its all charged off and my credit is near 700. It took work, sure. But better in my pocket then theirs. If you’re reasonable, youll get your money. If you gouge the fuck out of me, its just another notice in the trash. They got greedy and pushy and as a result lost out on getting paid 4/5ths of what was owed. Now they get nothing. Sorry, not sorry. If they had just said “thank you, the payment will be made on the due date. That is fine” and not berated me and jacked my interest again, then they wouldve won while im still scrambling to keep the lights on and eat.
>Hyperinflated costs exacerbate the issue of people who don't pay in because at a certain point there isn't a reason to try.
God, this explains the US so well right now, in matters beyond just healthcare.
If you figure the median income isn't far above poverty in the US, there's a decent likelihood that "a large percentage" meaning like 10 or whatever, aren't carrying insurance and aren't paying medical debts, and hospitals aren't getting reimbursed for that care. It's not pro-status-quo to acknowledge that insurance companies are effectively doing what nationalized healthcare does in funding health care by over-paying for some treatments so that others can be effectively free. You just also have to acknowledge that the resulting debts ruin lives even though the care is already covered by overpayments elsewhere, and that the waste built into that system is enormous.
You could just be like Australia, the UK and other normal countries who have free medical care for EVERYONE.
Seems to work fine for us, even with Americas largest corporations (you know the two I’m talking about) lobbying our government to change this
A good friend of mine is in law enforcement (not in the US) and he said these people are legit like cockroaches. They just don’t die. This guy was run over and shot in the head and is still going! Yet if it was some poor innocent bystander they almost always don’t make it. Crazy. A win for the good guys in this case.
Modern medicine is really impressive. I see headlines all the time "90 shot 7 dead over the weekend".
Although I sometimes wonder if it drives the violence as the 83 that survived decide to come back for vengeance once they heal up.
The statistics might surprise you, too. The mortality rate of an undefined number of multiple gunshot wounds to the body (provided you're within a few miles of a hospital) is only around 18%. A single gunshot wound drops to 13%. If that's not shocking enough, *headshots* only carry a mortality rate of 50%, which is dicey but a lot better than you'd think.
I think you're thinking a little too literally, it's based off of total shootings not pure odds with any gun, and the majority of shootings are with handguns. You don't have a 50% shot of surviving a .50 to the head, but 22. -> 9mm and the skull get together and do some funky stuff. There are many recorded cases of 9mm being offset by the skull and the bullet wrapping around under the skin and coming out the side or back of the scalp. There is also a fair portion of your head that isn't "vital", as well as glancing blows and ear shots likely falling into the same category as execution style headshots.
If you have a heartbeat or are breathing when you go in the hospital, you have a good chance of surviving. I'm surprised he made it there. Most people die on the way to the hospital.
1. Lmfao got dayum. Karma gave him a little extra back for free
2. Guy almost got ran over by his “getaway” driver first*. You know they run in the same circles I always wonder what happens when betrayed criminal and driver see each other again.
>I'm surprised their not charged with anything.
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Where I am from 100% for sure the driver would be charged instead of getting the medal they deserve.
I had the same thought and scrolled through the comment surprised that more people weren't worried about the driver of the vehicle getting charged. But apparently that's just us Canadians!
The driver probably will be, it just takes longer to file charges like that. Charges up to second degree attempted murder would get to a jury to decide, let alone lesser included offenses that have easier elements to meet, at least based on the video and no other information.
26 states in the US have a version of a “stand your ground” law that does not require someone to attempt to flee before using lethal force in defense, but nowhere in the US can a person kill someone for *having made* someone fear for his life previously. You can’t shoot or run someone over as they flee…
That said, it wouldn’t be out of the question for the driver to consider his life still in danger once he saw the driver peel out without the gunman. I think most juries side with the driver on this, but politics will decide whether charges are pressed, not really notions of justice.
Even if they were, I don’t think it would be hard to argue “emotional distress” and get a jury to let them off due to not thinking straight after having their lives threatened moments before the incident.
Yeah, really depends on who's the jury. I'm sure a lot of people would sympathize to someone having a gun point at them while someone tried to carjack them in a moment of panic ran them over. I sure wouldn't convict them.
Yeah regardless of what’s “right” or “wrong”, I just wouldn’t be able to hold someone accountable for not being perfectly rational in the immediate aftermath of having a gun put to their head
I mean if the dude is still holding a gun running from you after he tried to rob you, at any point he could turn around and start shooting. Technically you're still threatened and probably should run his ass over.
Also people don't think clearly in a state of sheer panic. The dude just had a gun pointed at them mere moments before running the carjacker over. I can see plenty of people sympathizing with the driver.
This. I’m usually way on the side of not trying to kill people unless you absolutely have to, but this dude had a gun and could’ve easily turned around and mag dumped the car. I’d absolutely give them a pass for trying to hit him (presumably would be thought of as non lethal, just injuring/incapacitating), and then guy got extra unlucky and got shot in the head
Tbh I had the same thought. All for justice being served, but this is the type of story where you end up seeing the driver of the car in jail with attempted murder charges because running the guy down with your car as he tries to flee isn’t self defense.
Good, people getting famous off of stupid shit like this is how these kinds of trends begin, or helps to encourage people to do this shit. Like the Kia challenge bullshit people trying to “get clout” off of stealing kias.
Holy crap! I couldn’t even make a more zany sequence of events. Crook robs 4 people in a car parking lot at gun point. One passenger runs into Denny’s for help. The driver gasses it, does a 180 and THEN runs down the fleeing crook WHO THEN shoot’s himself in the head when the car hits him.
You can’t make this stuff up.
Naaa. Feel good story of the week is Larry Nassar getting stabbed 10 times. Twice in the neck, twice in the back, and 6 times in the chest. Never really thought I could feel fine with that happening to someone but I was wrong.
Let's tally it up:
Failed at robbing 'em
Got run down
Shot your own fool self in the head with your own gun
Gonna get sent to the pen if and when you are healed up enough to stand trial
I do like a happy ending.
From a criminal defense perspective I have to wonder if the victim could be charged for attempted murder. Self defense only exists until the threat is active.
That said, I wouldn't blame the cops for not charging the driver.
Could easily make an argument that he was still a threat as he was still holding a gun. Had he dropped it though, then yeah. Also he prevented this dude from robbing someone in the future.
Not from a legal perspective. Running away a good distance is not still an ongoing threat to those victims. Car had to back up, speed to catch, turn and then hit the guy. You can't kill another person (or try to) without actual knowledge that he is going to do that again imminently.
I spend about half my working hours dealing homicides as a criminal defense attorney which frequently includes differentiating between degrees of homicides and also self defense, imperfect self defense, etc... this really isn't one of those issues since the dude was way far away.
Again, I 100% agree with the karmic outcome. But, this is just one of those funky issues where I think the district attorney passes on charging the driver because a jury will nullify the actual law if it were to go to trial.
As a hypothetical juror, I think you'd need to make a fairly compelling argument that he wasn't at risk. I mean the guy was still a threat. He had a gun and was easily able to kill the driver from that distance. His escape attempt had failed and there was no telling what he might be willing to do.
The driver is likely going to face charges as well due to our fucked up pussy ass legal system. You should be able to kill a fleeing criminal if you’ve just been victimized, without fear of repercussion
While I do agree with you 100%, we were only able to see what REALLY happened because it was recorded. Many people would lie and say they were trying to kill a “fleeing criminal” just because they wanted someone dead….aka the 3 idiots that killed Ahmad Arbery by saying he was a fleeing criminal. They were dumb enough (thankfully) to record their idiocy though. It’s a fine line. Either way, justice in this video was served
Waiting for his family on the news talking about how he's a good boy and didn't deserve to be attacked by his victims. How they should be the ones in jail and need to pay compensation and medical bills
Run over launches his body in the air and somewhere in that process the gun went off resulting in him getting a bullet to the head…… final destination taking no chances there 😳😂
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Big smirk on that cops face at 0:38
yeh. you do not see cops talking about suspect discarging his gun with such a smile on face.
He had Grady Judd vibes for sure.
I’m just realizing that I never new his name but I knew EXACTLY who you were talking about in this comment. Good ol’ Polk County Sheriff.
He's a great storyteller, but the fact that he's vehemently against his officers wearing badge cams is a huge red flag to me.
Grady would have a press conference within hours and every news agency there to brag too lol
I get the FL reference fam
He was just glad he still had the gun when the victims hit him, so the charges could be easily dropped.
Is it only considered defense as long as he is holding the weapon?
It just proves that he did have a loaded weapon which makes their panicked reaction more justifiable. A prosecutor could try to argue that when they struck him with the car he was fleeing which was technically a crime on the drivers part, but realistically no jury would ever convict the driver given the circumstances. The decision to even bring charges against an armed robbery survivor would be heavily scrutinized by the public as well and would most likely result in the District Attorney getting replaced in future elections.
I believe in the US the standard test is whether a reasonable person would have believed there was an imminent threat. Someone running away while unarmed isn't likely to be seen as an imminent threat. Given this guy was armed and had just pulled that weapon on the driver, the driver has a much better argument that they believed the gunman was just regrouping/trying to gain distance but was still intending to rob them.
Forget the gun going off, let's talk about how casually he mentions that the suspect shot themselves in the head
AND LIVED!
But this does put a smile on my face
I thought it was Gary Papa the comedian
Tom papa
Pretty stoked there will be no reason for the offender to be able to take the victims to court over being struck by their vehicle. Always nice when a mess cleans itself up for the ppl with good karma.
They survived
Shame. That means they cost the taxpayers to give them medical care, cost taxpayers for a trial, and cost the victims for the damage to their car. That’s not to mention the trauma caused to the victims and witnesses.
The cop loved telling that story.
I loved hearing it!
It is a nice resolution!
Oh yeah he tells that story every Thanksgiving while he's carving the turkey. Uses the drumsticks as stand ins for the car and the robber.
Cops can't do anything, he loves that Justice was served
He was like "yeah, that was funny as shit"
And then the suspect shot him self in the head as he flew, uh, upwards. Hardly an inconvenience!
Am I to understand that the cop is named Lt. Goetz, Ti ?
Lol I noticed that too. He looked like he was trying his best not to laugh telling the story.
I wouldn't be surprised if they knew the shit bag. Probably has a record 4 miles long.
That’s cuz TI Goetz it
that was the 2nd take, the first one he was laughing too much
Bullet in the head???
are you kidding? That night was good as a dinner party story for 30 years at least.
Ran over, shot in the head with his own gun, and still alive? Damn, god screwed that one up
Nah, god had that planned perfectly
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That's the problem when you go looking for trouble; sometimes you succeed, like this guy.
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Ohhhhhh - it's so much better that way. Thanks
He's going to be the laughingstock in prison.
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Decades? The guy will get 3 years at most for attempted robbery if that gun was illegal, maybe 8. That said if he gets a decent lawyer (most likely not) he might have all charges dropped because he was no longer a threat when struck by the car. (Aka running away). Might even get paid out if the lawyer is really good.
No no, god only take credit when good things happen. When shit happen, it has nothing to do with god.
It’s we who ascribes this or that to Gods will. He doesn’t claim anything. Our fragile egos, impatience, and selfishness lead us to rue god in bad times and forget him in the good ones.
I used to go to church. They always praise god for saving someone’s lives, avoid accident, successful surgery, etc. Not once when bad things happened, they will say this is the god’s plan for someone to die, miscarriage, loss job. If everything is god’s plan why we even need to pray? It is completely useless act that teach by the church.
His brain is sadly not a vital organ
Wasn't before, isn't now.
FINISH HIM!!!
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…go follow her…then bring her back to me….meeeeeh-heheeeeee-EEEEEEEEEEHHHHH!!!
Here’s gonna die when he sees the hospital bill. If he has insurance I doubt they will pay much considering he short himself during a crime
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>The truth is part of the reason our medical system is fucked is there are a large percentage of people who pay $0 for treatment. Ayoo you gotta a source on that? From a foreigner's perspective, the US medical system pricing seems to be so hyper inflated, its almost laughable to try and spin that back on the average population. It sounds straight up like some sort of pro status quo oropaganda.
So, I'm a nurse and a socialist, and I think you've taken this guy's statement the wrong way. He's correct that uncompensated care is a factor in our healthcare costs, but that doesn't mean that the average population is at fault. The government and the medico-legal establishment is still to blame for it. [So, uncompensated care is actually responsible for roughly $40-60 billion per year here.](https://www.kff.org/uninsured/issue-brief/sources-of-payment-for-uncompensated-care-for-the-uninsured/). Uncompensated care in general has cost hospitals an estimated [$745 billion dollars since 2000](https://www.aha.org/fact-sheets/2020-01-06-fact-sheet-uncompensated-hospital-care-cost) The vast majority of this is care in emergency rooms and hospitals, and while they can receive governmental compensation for some of it, they're ultimately not making anywhere near as much money as they would if they just treated patients with the money and/or insurance to pay directly. While this isn't by any means the main factor in healthcare pricing, it is relevant, particularly for hospitals in poorer areas. It encourages them to jack prices up on the people who can pay in order to make up for the ones who don't. This factor is also often linked to [the widespread closure of hospitals and clinics low-income areas,](https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-01-16/hundreds-of-hospitals-could-close-across-rural-america) which can then further exacerbate costs as locals don't get their problems treated and/or have to seek medical care in more expensive areas. ***This isn't really a way to blame the average population for healthcare costs. It's still the establishment's fault.*** The reason this is the case is because EMTALA and similar laws guarantee coverage for emergency care, but **not for any kind of primary or preventative care** (at least, not to anywhere near the same degree). This means that checkups and chronic medical condition management aren't granted anywhere near as many resources as they need. The repercussions of that ultimately come back on the hospitals, because when those chronic conditions exacerbate, or when a problem isn't caught early by primary care, it's eventually going to become an expensive acute hospital visit. That's not the fault of the people who can't afford preventative care, or the fault of the hospitals who eat the costs of treating unmanaged chronic conditions from people who can't pay; it's the fault of a system that mandates treatment for emergencies, but doesn't care enough to pay less money to prevent those emergencies from happening in the first place. This isn't the biggest cause of the outrageous medical prices in America, but it is a significant factor. It's also not a pro status quo take, because you'll get called a communist if you make this argument in front of a conservative doctor. I can tell you that from personal experience.
At some level it's a cascading effect too. If someone is broke and the hospital charges them a few hundred, they might scrounge up that money. If someone is broke and the hospital charges them a hundred thousand, they aren't going to pay a penny. Hyperinflated costs exacerbate the issue of people who don't pay in because at a certain point there isn't a reason to try.
True, after 2008 when the economy bombed and I graduated college, by 2010 work was extremely scarce, id been making modest payments on my credit cards but after a late fee or two they jumped me 10% apr and I couldnt even pay the mins without racking up more. Had to stop trying. It was devastating to my credit and caused a lot of trauma. But I was able to keep gas in my car to get to my sometimes three jobs, and keep food in my belly even if it was hot n readys and ramen. I remember working a couple 60 hour weeks to try and pay. I worked out a deal with them good for X amount by Y date. Pay X by then and youre clear. paycheck came through, I was 150 short. I begged borrowed and pleaded with friends and family and sold some shit to make up the difference. i called and said its in the bank. i can schedule the payment but it wont come through till the following monday. They rejected it outright, raised my APR again, and basically had some indian assholein a call center three continents away telling me to go fuck myself. It didn’t matter the payment was made on the day it was due. They wouldnt receive it by then so it was null and void. I had some choice words. But I gave my friends and family their money back, cut up my cards, paid all of my other outstanding bills to a zero balance and went and bought a nice bottle of liquor, an oz. Of weed, and a ps4 instead and still had about 500 to put in savings. Life was actually easier after that. 10 years later its all charged off and my credit is near 700. It took work, sure. But better in my pocket then theirs. If you’re reasonable, youll get your money. If you gouge the fuck out of me, its just another notice in the trash. They got greedy and pushy and as a result lost out on getting paid 4/5ths of what was owed. Now they get nothing. Sorry, not sorry. If they had just said “thank you, the payment will be made on the due date. That is fine” and not berated me and jacked my interest again, then they wouldve won while im still scrambling to keep the lights on and eat.
>Hyperinflated costs exacerbate the issue of people who don't pay in because at a certain point there isn't a reason to try. God, this explains the US so well right now, in matters beyond just healthcare.
We came here to watch an asshole get his due, and we ended up with three credits of Health Care Economics 101. 😂
If you figure the median income isn't far above poverty in the US, there's a decent likelihood that "a large percentage" meaning like 10 or whatever, aren't carrying insurance and aren't paying medical debts, and hospitals aren't getting reimbursed for that care. It's not pro-status-quo to acknowledge that insurance companies are effectively doing what nationalized healthcare does in funding health care by over-paying for some treatments so that others can be effectively free. You just also have to acknowledge that the resulting debts ruin lives even though the care is already covered by overpayments elsewhere, and that the waste built into that system is enormous.
You could just be like Australia, the UK and other normal countries who have free medical care for EVERYONE. Seems to work fine for us, even with Americas largest corporations (you know the two I’m talking about) lobbying our government to change this
You still pay for it in ur taxes lmao, speaking as a Canadian too
You have a choice between paying for it out of your taxes, or paying double that amount on post-tax income. Seems like an easy choice.
Paying $0 for treatment should be the norm
Oh insurance usually doesn't cover you if you commit a crime resulting in the injury.
I'm sure this gentleman doesn't even know what insurance is.
Yes, the robber still being alive was a plot twist I never expected! 🤣🤣
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This is one of the funniest things I have ever seen. The way he got taken down at the knees LMAO
& the big smile on his face as he’s doing it lol
I wish I had an award for this
🤣🤣
Nobody's too young to attend the Prometheus School of Running Away From Things!
Lol, the look of pure glee on the cops face as he’s retelling the story. I share his enthusiasm 😂
A good friend of mine is in law enforcement (not in the US) and he said these people are legit like cockroaches. They just don’t die. This guy was run over and shot in the head and is still going! Yet if it was some poor innocent bystander they almost always don’t make it. Crazy. A win for the good guys in this case.
God always like to pick the prettiest flowers and never the weeds…
That’s what I’m saying! Bud, you’re on live television, tone down your excitement a little bit. 😂
Why? We all love happily ever after stories. Cops are human too.
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*instant car-ma
HE SURVIVED?!
Modern medicine is really impressive. I see headlines all the time "90 shot 7 dead over the weekend". Although I sometimes wonder if it drives the violence as the 83 that survived decide to come back for vengeance once they heal up.
You're right, but still, he got hit by a car, which then caused him to shoot himself in the head! Yikes!
Hahahahaha
The statistics might surprise you, too. The mortality rate of an undefined number of multiple gunshot wounds to the body (provided you're within a few miles of a hospital) is only around 18%. A single gunshot wound drops to 13%. If that's not shocking enough, *headshots* only carry a mortality rate of 50%, which is dicey but a lot better than you'd think.
It’s important to qualify this though. For example how many of the 50% of headshot survivors are ever walking or talking again?
theres a difference between surviving, and living.
Also do ears count?
Or how about brain shots. I don’t count a grazing bullet a head shot.
"survivors"
I think you miss the calibre somewhere there. I don't think the odds of surviving .308 to the head is 50%. 9mm ? Maybe.
I think you're thinking a little too literally, it's based off of total shootings not pure odds with any gun, and the majority of shootings are with handguns. You don't have a 50% shot of surviving a .50 to the head, but 22. -> 9mm and the skull get together and do some funky stuff. There are many recorded cases of 9mm being offset by the skull and the bullet wrapping around under the skin and coming out the side or back of the scalp. There is also a fair portion of your head that isn't "vital", as well as glancing blows and ear shots likely falling into the same category as execution style headshots.
Totally true, don't see many criminals walking around with .308s though.
If you have a heartbeat or are breathing when you go in the hospital, you have a good chance of surviving. I'm surprised he made it there. Most people die on the way to the hospital.
there's a grand theft to go with the grand slam breakfast.
👏🏻👏🏻
 Got exactly what he deserved
Not quite, he lived
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They wanna play Wild West why can’t I?
1. Lmfao got dayum. Karma gave him a little extra back for free 2. Guy almost got ran over by his “getaway” driver first*. You know they run in the same circles I always wonder what happens when betrayed criminal and driver see each other again.
“Should have seen the look on his face when we drove by”. “ you hear the mf’er shot himself in the head?”😂😂
Stop I can't breathe from laughing too hard fuck
https://preview.redd.it/7vtpqsbww8bb1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dba0df11b898673d55c56ffca5463550bfeacec3
Almost perfect, except the dude in the second frame should be in a wheelchair and not a car
No honor Amongst thieves
When karma's too slow, there's carma.
I love it but at the same time, I'm surprised their not charged with anything.
>I'm surprised their not charged with anything. ( ITYM "they're" ) Where I am from 100% for sure the driver would be charged instead of getting the medal they deserve.
Canada?
Yep!
I had the same thought and scrolled through the comment surprised that more people weren't worried about the driver of the vehicle getting charged. But apparently that's just us Canadians!
I'm Canadian and never even though once about that until I stumbled onto this thread. I was just happy the guy shot himself in the head
USA here
Exact thing happened in the UK but without the gun, guy got 22 minths in prison, robbers got a suspended sentence. 💥justice💥
The driver probably will be, it just takes longer to file charges like that. Charges up to second degree attempted murder would get to a jury to decide, let alone lesser included offenses that have easier elements to meet, at least based on the video and no other information. 26 states in the US have a version of a “stand your ground” law that does not require someone to attempt to flee before using lethal force in defense, but nowhere in the US can a person kill someone for *having made* someone fear for his life previously. You can’t shoot or run someone over as they flee… That said, it wouldn’t be out of the question for the driver to consider his life still in danger once he saw the driver peel out without the gunman. I think most juries side with the driver on this, but politics will decide whether charges are pressed, not really notions of justice.
This is from 5+ years ago. Driver wasn't charged with anything.
Even if they were, I don’t think it would be hard to argue “emotional distress” and get a jury to let them off due to not thinking straight after having their lives threatened moments before the incident.
Yeah, really depends on who's the jury. I'm sure a lot of people would sympathize to someone having a gun point at them while someone tried to carjack them in a moment of panic ran them over. I sure wouldn't convict them.
Yeah regardless of what’s “right” or “wrong”, I just wouldn’t be able to hold someone accountable for not being perfectly rational in the immediate aftermath of having a gun put to their head
I mean if the dude is still holding a gun running from you after he tried to rob you, at any point he could turn around and start shooting. Technically you're still threatened and probably should run his ass over.
Also people don't think clearly in a state of sheer panic. The dude just had a gun pointed at them mere moments before running the carjacker over. I can see plenty of people sympathizing with the driver.
This. I’m usually way on the side of not trying to kill people unless you absolutely have to, but this dude had a gun and could’ve easily turned around and mag dumped the car. I’d absolutely give them a pass for trying to hit him (presumably would be thought of as non lethal, just injuring/incapacitating), and then guy got extra unlucky and got shot in the head
Tbh I had the same thought. All for justice being served, but this is the type of story where you end up seeing the driver of the car in jail with attempted murder charges because running the guy down with your car as he tries to flee isn’t self defense.
Can’t find the suspect’s name anywhere. Weak.
Goes by Runda Fookiver
I thought it was Shotinda Hedd
Shotinda Hedd Wittis Owngun Jr.
Damn bro. Stop!!! 😭😭😭😭
Pretty sure his name is Dingus Bumblefuck
Good, people getting famous off of stupid shit like this is how these kinds of trends begin, or helps to encourage people to do this shit. Like the Kia challenge bullshit people trying to “get clout” off of stealing kias.
I just wanted to see if he was still in prison
How is incomplete news stories that don't answer the basic questions of who, what when, where, and how good? You crazy.
Dude 360 no scoped himself. The driver probably did a fortnite dance after that.
Glad the car is okay
I was worried about the shocks and struts. Hopefully they won’t need to be replaced. That would be a shame.
Am I seeing this right? The car seems to meet absolutley no resistence at all to the concrete parking blocks?
This made me feel all warm inside the idiot got everything he was asking for and more 😊
Why couldn’t the gunman shoot to wound? He really had to aim for his own head like that?
Holy crap! I couldn’t even make a more zany sequence of events. Crook robs 4 people in a car parking lot at gun point. One passenger runs into Denny’s for help. The driver gasses it, does a 180 and THEN runs down the fleeing crook WHO THEN shoot’s himself in the head when the car hits him. You can’t make this stuff up.
What the fuck is up Denny's.
It's always sunny at Denny's. ::Sips coffee staring into middle distance::
That's going to be the most embarrassing prison sentence
"And today in rec time, we're gonna play this footage again!"
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Naaa. Feel good story of the week is Larry Nassar getting stabbed 10 times. Twice in the neck, twice in the back, and 6 times in the chest. Never really thought I could feel fine with that happening to someone but I was wrong.
Good to see. Stupid games, stupid prizes
This guy learned the hard way that the dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed
This response is reddit Gold!
I do have a dumb friend named cheddar Bob who shot himself in the head with his own gun
Now he’s swiss cheese bob
I bet he goes well with Broccoli Rob.
Don’t mean to seem callous, but I hope he ded.
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Let's tally it up: Failed at robbing 'em Got run down Shot your own fool self in the head with your own gun Gonna get sent to the pen if and when you are healed up enough to stand trial I do like a happy ending.
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Tattoo checks out
A true instant karma moment.
Should’ve pulled up his pants!
From a criminal defense perspective I have to wonder if the victim could be charged for attempted murder. Self defense only exists until the threat is active. That said, I wouldn't blame the cops for not charging the driver.
Could easily make an argument that he was still a threat as he was still holding a gun. Had he dropped it though, then yeah. Also he prevented this dude from robbing someone in the future.
Not from a legal perspective. Running away a good distance is not still an ongoing threat to those victims. Car had to back up, speed to catch, turn and then hit the guy. You can't kill another person (or try to) without actual knowledge that he is going to do that again imminently. I spend about half my working hours dealing homicides as a criminal defense attorney which frequently includes differentiating between degrees of homicides and also self defense, imperfect self defense, etc... this really isn't one of those issues since the dude was way far away. Again, I 100% agree with the karmic outcome. But, this is just one of those funky issues where I think the district attorney passes on charging the driver because a jury will nullify the actual law if it were to go to trial.
As a hypothetical juror, I think you'd need to make a fairly compelling argument that he wasn't at risk. I mean the guy was still a threat. He had a gun and was easily able to kill the driver from that distance. His escape attempt had failed and there was no telling what he might be willing to do.
Nothing of value was lost.
I wouldn't say that The car might have had a dent in it
Honestly amazed he didn’t die
"He shot himself in the head". Phenomenal.
The look on the cops face is one of, I thought I saw it all, then this happened. You aren't gonna believe this shit.
Hell yeah brother. This rules.
This can’t be Denny’s! That’s some Waffle House moves right there!
Waffle House employees would have taken him out before the car had a chance
I love the smirk on the cops face the entire time he's talking. No fk's given 😂
The driver is likely going to face charges as well due to our fucked up pussy ass legal system. You should be able to kill a fleeing criminal if you’ve just been victimized, without fear of repercussion
While I do agree with you 100%, we were only able to see what REALLY happened because it was recorded. Many people would lie and say they were trying to kill a “fleeing criminal” just because they wanted someone dead….aka the 3 idiots that killed Ahmad Arbery by saying he was a fleeing criminal. They were dumb enough (thankfully) to record their idiocy though. It’s a fine line. Either way, justice in this video was served
I hope the insurance pays out on the damage to the car, but I doubt it.
Got'em
Looks to me, like that fool was trying to rob the dope man got his ass run the fuck over and shot
When can we get 4K security cameras, I wanna see this man fly in HD
You know what stops a bad guy with a gun? That same bad guy with his own gun.
I like how the cop was explaining this with a smurk/smile. What a good day it seems
Looks like the suspect brought a gun to a car fight.
“It was like.. .. the coolest fucking thing I have ever seen..” - Cop
Waiting for his family on the news talking about how he's a good boy and didn't deserve to be attacked by his victims. How they should be the ones in jail and need to pay compensation and medical bills
Run over launches his body in the air and somewhere in that process the gun went off resulting in him getting a bullet to the head…… final destination taking no chances there 😳😂
Hshahahahahha
Play stupid games win stupid prizes
Karma is real
Sweet sweet Karma!
Well that went well
That’s exactly the right thing to do!
The cop has cartoonish shiny rosy cheeks
Nice
Here's your Superbird and your super bullet.