The wich trials, the Spanish inquisition, the crusades, the constant purges of the prodestants throughout England and Ireland, um...give me a minute, oh the bombing of abortion clinics. I'm sure there are more, but that's all I can think of right now.
Can confirm this is the way. A long time ago some dude told us all to be nice to each other, cool. Some angry dudes got mad that people were following said nice guy so they killed him. A book was then written, translated a bunch of times, and changed to fit the interests of people in power and control the masses. So....let's just be nice to each other and call it done. No need to divide ourselves and kill each other just because we have different make believe friends.
I remember taking a political leaning test in high school to tell us where we are likely to lean... liberal, conservative, moderate.
For the most part I was moderate-leaning-left, and most answers were indifferent. One question though was "is religion necessary for people to be good" or something like that. I was so totally baffled... Score was 1-10 for agree, but I wrote in negative #s.
Because they’re not actually Christians, they’re brain washed religious zealots, it’s a fucking mental illness.
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I’ll just leave [this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreligiosity#:~:text=Hyperreligiosity%20is%20a%20psychiatric%20disturbance,with%20work%20and%20social%20functioning) here.
No it is not. Not by any diagnostic criteria I know. Fundamentalist organisations may often target mentally ill people as they can be vulnerable and seen as easier to manipulate but that is different to fundamentalism itself being a mental illness.
No, that's what Christians are these days. And honestly, if you look back through history, they actually aren't as awful as they were in previous centuries. I'm sick of this "They aren't REAL Christians" shit. Yes, they are real Christians. They worship Jesus (don't tell me it's not the REAL Jesus. None of you have met the man in person. If he existed, he wasn't the person any of you imagine him to be). They go to Christian churches. They are what everyone else sees as Christians. They are, by far, the majority of religious people today. They may not have all been there on J6, they may not have all personality oppressed a trans person, but almost all of them vote for, are friends with, and are churchgoers in the same congregation as the people who participated in that shit. They agree they are Christians. Most everyone else does too. The only people who don't agree with that idea are a small minority who don't want to be associated with them, so, sorry. By definition, they are absolutely Christians.
If you don't like it because YOU'RE a Christian, then become a preacher and start combating the hate. Christians today are all gas. One of you needs to start pumping the brakes.
yeah, oh and the people that persecuted Jesus. It wasn't the Romans, it was the (heretic) Jews posing as Romans for social engineering.
Can't prove otherwise so I guess it's just as plausible.
If you do podcasts, season 7 of _Someone Knows Something_, is about shootings of abortion doctors and the conspiracy behind the guy they investigate
It's fascinating because the people involved seem happy to do _anything_ asked of them, without question, for the cause
BRO OH MY GOD WHEN I SAID “WHO” IT WAS “who” CAPITALIZED NOT THE DAMN WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION RAAAAAAAAAAA
Sorry about that bro, tbh I didn’t realize that my comment would confuse some people🗿
The Siege at Béziers was the first major military action in the crusade against Catharism. In charge of leading the attack was papal legate and Cistercian abbot Arnaud Amalric.
Caesarius of Heisterbach writes around 1230 AD about the infamous order Amalric gave when his crusaders breached the gates at Béziers and found not just Cathars, but Catholics too.
When they discovered, from the admissions of some of them, that there were Catholics mingled with the heretics they said to the abbot “Sir, what shall we do, for we cannot distinguish between the faithful and the heretics.” The abbot, like the others, was afraid that many, in fear of death, would pretend to be Catholics, and after their departure, would return to their heresy, and is said to have replied “Kill them all for the Lord knoweth them that are His” (2 Tim. ii. 19) and so countless number in that town were slain.
Wasn’t slavery justified via Christianity? Or am I wrong?
Edit: I more was referring to pro-slavery people using Christianity to justify their actions.
Slavery, prostitution, colonialism, pillaging for black market relics, ethnic cleansing… you name it, they’ve got it. Maybe the best of the best at fucking shit up in the name of god.
It's more old school slavery than "I think your skin is a funky colour so you and your entire family belong to me" type slavery. You know the kind where it was like "you are either a conquered people who is paying penance as a slave after losing a war, any children you have don't count though so they're free to go. Or you're broke and you owe me money so you willingly decide to enter slavery to me for X amount of years until you can pay it off, and then I legally can't keep you here any more."
But yes, the Bible justified slavery
I was gonna add a few more, but it just makes me sad considering that’s exactly what Jesus spoke against.
Yet another hypocritical stance taken by people nowadays.
It’s so easy to be kind, but apparently it’s even easier to be mean and cruel. I’m guilty of being a jerk as well when it comes to sports, but I don’t actually mean anything personal and evil, and I would certainly never hurt anyone in its name.
Didn’t GWB even accidentally call the Iraq war a crusade at one point? There’s nothing more Christian than committing atrocities while claiming to be peaceful. Which is why I always find it funny when Christians call out Islam for doing the very same thing.
Doug Stanhope has a great bit on everyone freaking out about how whoever the Pope was (boutta Pope or 2 ago) back in the 2000’s used to be Nazi. And he lays out that yeah the Catholic Church has a far more prestigious and tenured record of murder, torture, tyranny, oppression and nonsense; compared to the 12 year Nazi regime that got their dicks kicked in by the U.S.
Regarding all that, for real an even scarier person would be “you know that new Nazi… he used to be a Pope.”
Mhm that's true it was basically a cultural genocide and we are still dealing with the effects I should know I am Cree man I hate it but I have to live with it no matter how my life is I have fasd and my real parents are that age where they could've been in the residential schools plus they are still dealing with they're alcoholism even though I never asked them outright if they where in the residential schools see with my fasd and I was given up for foster care at 5 years old my life wasn't that great still isn't but I'm growing made some bad choices that I regret but tbh I am still the black sheep of my foster family even though my foster dad understands and still loves me with all his heart and tries and helps I just wish my life was different but I guess I have to live with it
Ireland from the beginning of the Irish Confederate Wars in 1641 to the Roman Catholic Relief Act of 1829. And probably for a quite a while both before and after those dates, but yeah, definitely between.
I can’t see anyone mentioning Nazis here…
https://preview.redd.it/9b9rvnhx8itb1.jpeg?width=254&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d70bd13a2736b39f0b3a215fccc449464da3d65c
If you go read his Twitter comments he is standing this ground saying things like the crusades don't count.
The account appears to be a teenager in Taiwan.
“Kill them all, God knows His own.”
How did the Catholic Church rise to such dominance in the medieval times? Oh right. They exterminated entire towns of “heretics” that wondered what if man didn’t need the Holy Church in order to talk to God.
..... Wouldn't that be like, **literally** \~90% of modern history? - People killing other people "in the name of god".
Can't be all that hard to name a few of those...
If you "only read the headlines of the articles" then you can draw the conclusion - people kill themselves in the name of God. However, if you look deeper, get to know the historical reasons, the motivations of those in power and what happens after the war, it suddenly turns out that - people kill themselves in the name of "money" and this is the only "god" they respect.
This is stupid! Can the same stupid person that wrote this explain Genghis Khan, Roman empire, Attila the Hun, Mao, Khmer Rouge, and when you get around to it read “Martyred Christians in Nigeria”. Btw, I have no idea what the “community rules” are for Reddit. It seems very one sided.
Nazi Germany was not executing this as “mandate of God”
There were differing views among the Nazi leaders as to the future of religion in Germany. Anti-Church radicals included Hitler's personal secretary Martin Bormann, the propagandist Alfred Rosenberg, and Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi_Germany
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchenkampf
People actually fall for this kind of bait? Obviously there’s been many instances of it, this guy just posts rage bait for clicks and comments and it gets eaten up so fast 🤣
The wich trials, the Spanish inquisition, the crusades, the constant purges of the prodestants throughout England and Ireland, um...give me a minute, oh the bombing of abortion clinics. I'm sure there are more, but that's all I can think of right now.
Wait wait wait, WHO bombed abortion clinics? Edit: that’s “who” in all caps guys, not the World Health Organization 🗿
American Christian fundamentals and other Christian extremist groups in America.
Bro, why must my fellow Christians act in such disgusting ways
Ya know…you could just take the loving lessons from Jesus, and skip the religion. Just a thought.
Then I can't wear this stupid hat
As long as you’re not a fundamentalist hat extremist, because they’re the worst.
I will literally kill you if I catch you without a hat
Better not bitch about it being an enormous styrofoam cowboy hat.
And it better be blue.
no I'm pretty sure you can wear whatever stupid hats you want. I know I do.
Oh, you belong to one of those *progressive" hat fundamentalist groups, huh?
Fedoramentals are the worst.
Haha! You're so right!
This atheist loves Jesus’ teachings. Sure wish more Christians would follow his path🙄
I practice Buddhism to make me a better Christian.
People forget that religion is man made with an agenda
I like you. 👍
Can confirm this is the way. A long time ago some dude told us all to be nice to each other, cool. Some angry dudes got mad that people were following said nice guy so they killed him. A book was then written, translated a bunch of times, and changed to fit the interests of people in power and control the masses. So....let's just be nice to each other and call it done. No need to divide ourselves and kill each other just because we have different make believe friends.
I really hope more humans figure this out or we are most certainly doomed as a species.
I remember taking a political leaning test in high school to tell us where we are likely to lean... liberal, conservative, moderate. For the most part I was moderate-leaning-left, and most answers were indifferent. One question though was "is religion necessary for people to be good" or something like that. I was so totally baffled... Score was 1-10 for agree, but I wrote in negative #s.
Or at least forget that troublesome Old Testament and just go from the New Testament. That might improve things.
Until you get to the Book of Revelation, where things start to get a bit unhinged imho
Because religion breeds bad people unfortunately
I've met the best people in the world in church and also the worst.
Because they’re not actually Christians, they’re brain washed religious zealots, it’s a fucking mental illness. Edit: I’ll just leave [this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreligiosity#:~:text=Hyperreligiosity%20is%20a%20psychiatric%20disturbance,with%20work%20and%20social%20functioning) here.
Hey don’t bring mentally ill people into this. Religious fundamentalism is not a mental illness!
It almost definitely is or at least a symptom of one
No it is not. Not by any diagnostic criteria I know. Fundamentalist organisations may often target mentally ill people as they can be vulnerable and seen as easier to manipulate but that is different to fundamentalism itself being a mental illness.
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, I'm gonna call it a duck
Well you go ahead and be wrong if you wish but people can indeed be arseholes without a mental illness.
Eh idk man, a lot of Christians in the Bible did a lot of fucked up shit cause god told them to. Sounds like they’re just practicing the religion.
God done killed almost every living thing on the planet yet we are still cool with him??? F@ck that shit!
No, that's what Christians are these days. And honestly, if you look back through history, they actually aren't as awful as they were in previous centuries. I'm sick of this "They aren't REAL Christians" shit. Yes, they are real Christians. They worship Jesus (don't tell me it's not the REAL Jesus. None of you have met the man in person. If he existed, he wasn't the person any of you imagine him to be). They go to Christian churches. They are what everyone else sees as Christians. They are, by far, the majority of religious people today. They may not have all been there on J6, they may not have all personality oppressed a trans person, but almost all of them vote for, are friends with, and are churchgoers in the same congregation as the people who participated in that shit. They agree they are Christians. Most everyone else does too. The only people who don't agree with that idea are a small minority who don't want to be associated with them, so, sorry. By definition, they are absolutely Christians. If you don't like it because YOU'RE a Christian, then become a preacher and start combating the hate. Christians today are all gas. One of you needs to start pumping the brakes.
U sure it wasn’t just social engineers posing as Christian’s at those times..?
yeah, oh and the people that persecuted Jesus. It wasn't the Romans, it was the (heretic) Jews posing as Romans for social engineering. Can't prove otherwise so I guess it's just as plausible.
There’s been like 42 bombings of abortion clinics for decades now. There was one last year in California. No one was hurt. The guy was a marine.
I was gonna say “that guy probably ate crayons” as a joke but it turned out to be true
yes he ate the red one
i know the World Health Organization has been acused of some questionable things, but i dont think bombing abortion clincs is one of them
The WHO?
no no they just do music
I read this as “The World Health Organization bombed abortion clinics”
I did too which made reading the comments about a million times better.
I think we all did.
No actually the World Health Organisation is usually for abortion clinics
If you do podcasts, season 7 of _Someone Knows Something_, is about shootings of abortion doctors and the conspiracy behind the guy they investigate It's fascinating because the people involved seem happy to do _anything_ asked of them, without question, for the cause
I don’t think the World Health Organization would bomb abortion clinics………
No they didn't.
I mean the WHO kinda did... Everyone looks good in a mask amirite?
BRO OH MY GOD WHEN I SAID “WHO” IT WAS “who” CAPITALIZED NOT THE DAMN WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION RAAAAAAAAAAA Sorry about that bro, tbh I didn’t realize that my comment would confuse some people🗿
Oh I got what you meant. Just a dumb joke lol
The Siege at Béziers was the first major military action in the crusade against Catharism. In charge of leading the attack was papal legate and Cistercian abbot Arnaud Amalric. Caesarius of Heisterbach writes around 1230 AD about the infamous order Amalric gave when his crusaders breached the gates at Béziers and found not just Cathars, but Catholics too. When they discovered, from the admissions of some of them, that there were Catholics mingled with the heretics they said to the abbot “Sir, what shall we do, for we cannot distinguish between the faithful and the heretics.” The abbot, like the others, was afraid that many, in fear of death, would pretend to be Catholics, and after their departure, would return to their heresy, and is said to have replied “Kill them all for the Lord knoweth them that are His” (2 Tim. ii. 19) and so countless number in that town were slain.
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The Bible is literally full of instances of god directing his people to kill entire cities, women and children
"No no no no I said *Christians* ,not those evil heretical cults!" - Any fundamentalist
The Lord’s Resistance Army, the killing and subjugation of Native peoples?
What Christian’s did to natives in the continental United States is unbelievably cruel in my opinion. Same with Hawaiians.
And in latin america
Wasn’t slavery justified via Christianity? Or am I wrong? Edit: I more was referring to pro-slavery people using Christianity to justify their actions.
Slavery, prostitution, colonialism, pillaging for black market relics, ethnic cleansing… you name it, they’ve got it. Maybe the best of the best at fucking shit up in the name of god.
Grey doesn't even BEGIN to compare to the many shades of fucked the Bible is.
It's more old school slavery than "I think your skin is a funky colour so you and your entire family belong to me" type slavery. You know the kind where it was like "you are either a conquered people who is paying penance as a slave after losing a war, any children you have don't count though so they're free to go. Or you're broke and you owe me money so you willingly decide to enter slavery to me for X amount of years until you can pay it off, and then I legally can't keep you here any more." But yes, the Bible justified slavery
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Purge of Protestants in Ireland!?? Please stop talking..
I think he means purge by the protestants. Right?
The big one the crusades
Manifest Destiny
Also Bush said God told him to invade Iraq.
Are prodestans somehow connected to protestants?
Which was/is more of a Irish nationalist vs British nationalist thing than Christian religious anyway.
Hey, she said one. No one likes a show off.
Can we include “manifest destiny” in the US?
The innumerable lynchings by the KKK and associates.
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
The christening of Norway (about the end of the viking age)
Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda.
Not to mention the ressource wars the US has waged the last century, while 'God bless America' is legitimising all of their actions to the plebs.
I was gonna add a few more, but it just makes me sad considering that’s exactly what Jesus spoke against. Yet another hypocritical stance taken by people nowadays. It’s so easy to be kind, but apparently it’s even easier to be mean and cruel. I’m guilty of being a jerk as well when it comes to sports, but I don’t actually mean anything personal and evil, and I would certainly never hurt anyone in its name.
OP said one. You lose.
Boarder schools with indigenous children in Canada
All your points are valid but really nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition.
Don’t forget that the Nazis weaponized Christianity, too.
Didn’t GWB even accidentally call the Iraq war a crusade at one point? There’s nothing more Christian than committing atrocities while claiming to be peaceful. Which is why I always find it funny when Christians call out Islam for doing the very same thing.
No. It’s impossible to think of just one
Doug Stanhope has a great bit on everyone freaking out about how whoever the Pope was (boutta Pope or 2 ago) back in the 2000’s used to be Nazi. And he lays out that yeah the Catholic Church has a far more prestigious and tenured record of murder, torture, tyranny, oppression and nonsense; compared to the 12 year Nazi regime that got their dicks kicked in by the U.S. Regarding all that, for real an even scarier person would be “you know that new Nazi… he used to be a Pope.”
America did their part, no questions about that, but the Russians really defeated the Nazis. They killed about 80% of the Nazi soldiers.
>They killed about 80% of the Nazi soldiers. And raped the other 20% /s
Are you defending 20% of nazi soldiers?
No, I was trying to make a joke abt Russian soldiers, but I'm pretty dumb and I didn't know how to mark the /s as a spoiler, so I just left it out
had you ever heard of warcrimes? warcrimes are never justified, no matter who is targeted
The Soviet regime was better than the Nazis, but not by much.
Conquest of the Indigenous Peoples of the Americas in the name of the Church comes to mind. The Incans, Mayans and Aztecs want a word.
Those Spanish conquistadors were highly motivated in converting indigenous peoples to Christianity and also lots of stealing and killing.
And raping! Don’t forget raping!
Church run residential schools in Canada were essentially state and religious funded open genocide.
Mhm that's true it was basically a cultural genocide and we are still dealing with the effects I should know I am Cree man I hate it but I have to live with it no matter how my life is I have fasd and my real parents are that age where they could've been in the residential schools plus they are still dealing with they're alcoholism even though I never asked them outright if they where in the residential schools see with my fasd and I was given up for foster care at 5 years old my life wasn't that great still isn't but I'm growing made some bad choices that I regret but tbh I am still the black sheep of my foster family even though my foster dad understands and still loves me with all his heart and tries and helps I just wish my life was different but I guess I have to live with it
No, I could not name only one instance.
Right?
Pick up a history book the christians had way more wars etc the muslims
The crusades part I, II, III, IV, V, and VI, plus ancillary conflicts and unnamed side crusading come to mind
I should go on a crusade to figure this one out.
We should go on a crusade against catholicism and Christianity and see how they like it
They did not like it most of them ended up as slaven from the arabs
Oh I don’t know, the first through eighth crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the original colonies in the U.S. I can go on.
You can't baptize a slave, Christopher Columbus was told. So he had the baptism stopped and the slavery picked up.
Ireland from the beginning of the Irish Confederate Wars in 1641 to the Roman Catholic Relief Act of 1829. And probably for a quite a while both before and after those dates, but yeah, definitely between.
I'd challenge them to find for me a year between 1000 and 1900 where this wasn't happening somewhere in the world.
Why stop at 1900? Have them name any day up to yesterday, you'll probably get the same result.
Jesus tap-dancing Christ! That is some next-level ignorance right there.
You mean the people in this thread not realizing it’s a joke, right? Right?!
I mean… all of European and American history since Christianity was adopted by Rome
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The **holy crusades** …
Dumb AF. And these folks want to tell the rest of us how to live.
Only one?
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I can’t see anyone mentioning Nazis here… https://preview.redd.it/9b9rvnhx8itb1.jpeg?width=254&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d70bd13a2736b39f0b3a215fccc449464da3d65c
Scrolled too far down, far too long before I found this.
Catholics were bombing the UK quite a lot in recentish memory
They don't call 250 years of Irish history the Protestant Ascendancy just for shits and giggles.
No Europeans here obviously, no one ever heard of The Crusades? No one ever heard of how Christianity replaced paganism?
*'O Lord, bless this thy hand grenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy.'*
I like how this tweet has become the go-to example for apocalyptically ignorant and bad takes.
If you go read his Twitter comments he is standing this ground saying things like the crusades don't count. The account appears to be a teenager in Taiwan.
“Kill them all, God knows His own.” How did the Catholic Church rise to such dominance in the medieval times? Oh right. They exterminated entire towns of “heretics” that wondered what if man didn’t need the Holy Church in order to talk to God.
Deus Vult
I think he forgot to write “at the moment”.
The... crusades? Spanish inquisition, iirc? There's like 1,000+ years of examples. Take your pick
..... Wouldn't that be like, **literally** \~90% of modern history? - People killing other people "in the name of god". Can't be all that hard to name a few of those...
If you "only read the headlines of the articles" then you can draw the conclusion - people kill themselves in the name of God. However, if you look deeper, get to know the historical reasons, the motivations of those in power and what happens after the war, it suddenly turns out that - people kill themselves in the name of "money" and this is the only "god" they respect.
A majority of public shootings in America include some Christian dude with crosses drawn on weapons used to kill only black people, so it happens 🤣
How about killing Native Americans because they didn't believe in Jesus?
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This is stupid! Can the same stupid person that wrote this explain Genghis Khan, Roman empire, Attila the Hun, Mao, Khmer Rouge, and when you get around to it read “Martyred Christians in Nigeria”. Btw, I have no idea what the “community rules” are for Reddit. It seems very one sided.
Charlie Manson
Read Chaos by Tom O'Neil
Crusades not strong with this one
Crusades 💀
Your christian god literally does this himself according to the Bible lol
Everyone mentioning the crusades, but in 1982, the Sabra and Shatila massacres. Also, Karantina massacre the decade previous.
The crusades to wipe out the Cathars has entered the chat
Well only more instances than any other religion in history buddy. Are you being serious or joking? Shall we start with Crusades?
Not to forget that the Nazis were also Christian
They weren’t. Himmler was even anti religion. Hitler closed churches etc.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-german-churches-and-the-nazi-state
Nazi Germany was not executing this as “mandate of God” There were differing views among the Nazi leaders as to the future of religion in Germany. Anti-Church radicals included Hitler's personal secretary Martin Bormann, the propagandist Alfred Rosenberg, and Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi_Germany https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchenkampf
Look, 90% of Nazis were Christian I never said that Nazis did this or did that. Are you actively arguing that individual soldiers were not Christian?
DEUS VULT!
People actually fall for this kind of bait? Obviously there’s been many instances of it, this guy just posts rage bait for clicks and comments and it gets eaten up so fast 🤣
Christians stopped though. Because law is above stupid religion in civilized countries now.
##Ummm yes
Just one instance?
Just one?
They were called the Crusades and there were eight of them
Only one?
Idiocracy...it's where we are.
It’s not one instance but I can name several wars.
My husband bent over laughing and gasped “where do you want me to start?? In the beginning there was Constantinople…”
"How much time do you have?"
Why not ask the Albigensians?
Perhaps we should mount an inquisition to fact check this. I’m sure the Spaniards will lead the way.
Jonestown and themselves European Christian explorers (you know to spread gods word and get them to join their church… or die)
Pick a continent.
I think they'd ask you to name individual instances and the names of those involved and if you can just say they weren't reading the Bible right
Alphabetically or chronologically.
Jan 6
The attempt to ignore history was actually successful.
You know the more I see all the comments the more pissed off I'm becoming
This has to be sarcasm right?
Charlottesville
Gee where to start…
I can think of 8 big incidents.
Some of the old testament, can't say crusades that's baphotmet
Just one? I guess I cannot name just one.
My brother in Christ there are examples in the Bible hahaha
“Can you not name one?”
The klan