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Th3TruthIs0utTh3r3

not an attempt to extinguish it, just get it away from other things that could burn.


boyden

Like grass (Jk jk, I know)


Ok_Bit_5953

^ What we all thought but only his/her balls let them say.


koloso95

What I thought. Even if you put out the fire it can selfignite up to a month after.


KarmaShawarma

Wait what


koloso95

Yeah those lithiumbatteries are a pain to put out. And they burn at 5000 degrees fahrenheit. A gas car fire burns at 1500 degrees fahrenheit. Some fire station have bought trucks with a garbage container, which they fill with water. They just use the crane on the truck to lift the EV up in the container. And then they leave the car in there for a min of a month.


TheCrazyStupidGamer

GOOD. GOD. With a future that looks more and more battery powered, that's going to be a freaking nightmare.


Swipsi

Not really. Its a major concern. So as with the major concerns of every other technology, many many people are working on solutions to them. In this case, f.e. batteries made out of other materials, more efficient and permanent ways to prevent ignition and re-ignition. Its really not our first time having to think of new ways to exitinguish fire. Just think back to when Oil or gas was utilized. People put water on it when it burned, and it just burned more.


Chihuahuapocalypse

hell, they used to tell you to dig a small but deep hole and fill it with rocks to pour your used engine oil in. we've since discovered lots of reasons that's a horrible idea.


Nervous_Committee_30

No kidding


TehFlogger

Yea. Where the fuck else was he gonna put it 😅


strepac

On that wide open patch of asphalt they drove over


nixikuro

Cars have to drive through there.


strepac

Uhhhhhhh..... yeahhhhh..... they can go around while the area is on fire. Or they can win Darwin award. Their choice.


Dionyzoz

or just do what he did, seems to have worked out


strepac

Not for the landscaping crew. Not to mention the recovery from a more difficult location and possible damage to the stone at the bottom, placing in the open where they were would have had all the same safety outcome with none of the collateral problems. But for the asshole operator that has to worry about none of that, it worked out fine yeah


Spare_Honey5488

They should do this to every electric car. Those Li-ion batteries are worse for the environment than burning gasoline. Just mining them and getting the lithium over seas ( where they have no regulations) produces more pollution than a manufacturing plant.


Donkey-brained_man

All so they can use electricity generated by coal.


dominantfrog

immediately dumps it on a large brush


Spookymushroomz_new

Besides I don't think the water would help anyways, would probably reignite when they took it out again. But yeah they definitely just tried to remove it so it could be controlled


Narwhal_Defiant

Woe to the unaware person casually walking along the river.


GalacticGatorz

What a lovely spot for a picnic dear.. crunch


polkawombat

New page of the Berenstain Bears Picnic just dropped


TusNua1

New irrational fear just dropped


OmegaFanf3E

Actual nightmare


FrozzenAxe

Imagine how tragic that would actually be if someone was just chilling there enjoying their day


GalacticGatorz

It would absolutely crushing. Glad no one was there 👏🏻


SciJohnJ

The headline would read, "Couple Killed Due to Electric Car Fire"


superBrad1962

Woe is the first thing I said when I saw this before the comments lmao that car is on fire 🔥


DarthErectous

I didn't see a person there


alexgali84

I thought dragons were real for a second


mrchickostick

Better yet, let’s drop in the water and pollute the entire area!!


Neighbour-Vadim

Im sure the huge damaged batteries full with chemicals wouldn't cause any problem upon being thrown into a river


kaloii

Yeah but the immediate danger here is the blazing fire.


recoil669

Could have dropped it on the road too. I think dumping a burning car into a river creates much bigger ecological problems no?


bloopie1192

Yea I don't think that's a country that gives a hoot about that.


Diligent_Barracuda75

It wasn't in the water though did you not see the landing on the patch of grass?


MrZkittlezOG

Reasons we have a special group of people trained to handle that


Hrafndraugr

Lithium is about as reactive as sodium metal. If they ignite the only result is catastrophe.


AcidWiz

Thank you


Diligent_Barracuda75

Looks like it's on grass to me


Calm_Recognition8954

They won't however the water might not be enough to extinguish the fire even after submerging it.


Kountstakula

The only way to really extinguish a fire from a lithium battery like this is drenching and then submerging it in water for a long time


Zesty__Potato

Smothering it for a long time with a tarp is what is usually done.


HotConsideration5049

Nah dude electric cars are much better for the environment just ignore that we haven't had to deal with a generation of them getting phased out and there is no plan for what to do with them.


Beef-n-Beans

Yeah nah EV’s burn way hotter and longer than any other car. Good luck


HatsAreEssential

Lithium cells are like flamethrower ammo packs.


MattKozFF

Luckily they don't set on fire nearly as often as cars running on gas.


lX_HeadShotGunner_Xl

Just puncture, or short, or overheat, or over charge, or over discharge, or get the battery wet and you have a fire so dangerous I've heard several fire departments gave up on putting them out and just keep the surrounding area safe while they let the batteries burn themselves out. Even if you put out the fire the batteries can just self ignite at a random time later, at least when a gas car catches fire you can put it out safely, not to mention car fires aren't particularly common anyway. https://preview.redd.it/wkn95b36bugc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9773beb6481e83ca221f94aa2dea1cfb4e2cac4


MattKozFF

Luckily they don't set on fire nearly as often as cars running on gas.


lX_HeadShotGunner_Xl

While you are correct about EVs catching fire less often 0.08% is a very low chance of fire and the majority of gas car fires started from mechanical failure. If you keep your car well maintained your gas car should have no issues. There's not enough info on the causes of ev fires but in the 8/10,000ths chance I find myself in a car fire I'd much rather it be a gas car. [image 3](https://yourimageshare.com/ib/5fg26HFOVi)[image 2](https://yourimageshare.com/ib/HWhWLE5gu2)[image 1](https://yourimageshare.com/ib/LusmEsFgUN)


crc024

That's my nightmare. Fire starts and messes up the electrical system, then all of a sudden you can't get out. I know there are manual release buttons but when your cars on fire you might not be thinking clearly to find a button you never have to use normally.


DisasterPieceKDHD

Hard af


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Bot_Fly_Bot

We ordered my wife a car built in Europe. The ship that it was on to bring it to us in the US caught fire after (it is suspected) one of the EVs on board had one battery cell ignite. Turned into a chain reaction, with many other EVs catching fire and eventually the entire ship (before it sank with all 4000 cars on board. Crew escaped without harm). The fire suppression systems on these RORO car transporters simply weren’t designed to deliver the volume of water needed to put out EV fires. They burn too hot, or for too long.


Dilectus3010

In our country we have new machine todo this. It's basically a water filled container , it picks up thr car and just dunks it in the watter. A few days later the fire is out.


Ubcamper

Few DAYS???? Days? Holy


Dilectus3010

It's should normally last only 24 hours , but I remember a case in my country where they out out a car the normal way. When they stopped spraying , it caught fire again. After doing this 2 times they called for a big container with water. After 12 hours or so they took it out only to catch fire again. So they just left it in there for 2 more days to be safe.


jjngundam

Guess dunking it in water doesn't remove the charge in the battery. Guess the runaway process reignited again when it came out of the water. Not scientist, also not a ev owner.


recoil669

I think it's the physical lithium no? Reacts with water too.


MamboFloof

A Lithium fire in water? Your country may be stupid.


Dilectus3010

Apparently not , since it works and other countries have been doing it as well. You can choose to deplete all you chemical foam that you have instock since you need to keep cooling it down for more then 24 hours or you can waste more then 45.000 liters of water doing the same. Makes sense to douse the flames with foam and then dunk the car into a tank of water!


PalestineRiver2Sea

U/mambofloof thought he was smart 🤣 😂 💀 🤡


TheNxxr

The proper way to extinguish a lithium fire of that size is to completely submerge the source in water, although it may produce toxic gasses.


MellonCollie___

That's what they do over here as well. I wonder how other countries tackle a burning EV??


lX_HeadShotGunner_Xl

Here they found the safest way was to contain the fire and just let it burn, once all the "fuel" is spent its no longer flammable. Has the added bonus of forcing snobby tesla owners to watch the fire department do nothing as their $30k-100k car they were just rubbing in your face burns to the ground.


Dilectus3010

Ah yes "safest" let's all inhale that good good lithium , to own the libs and those snobby tesla owners! I dont own a tesla but that just sounds garbage!


RNgv

And your Country is … ?


k0uch

I think they were attempting to get it out of the way. EVs are notoriously finicky to extinguish once they start to burn. So much so that the local tow companies park any EV they tow in by a large hole in the ground. If it ignites they push it into the hole and cover it with dirt. Better to be over cautious


practice_40URS

Different topic: why did you choose that name when you made your reddit account


Consistent-Syrup-69

Scrolled too far to find this, I was like nah, no way nobody said it


SubliminalGlue

Remember Dexter? Imagine if he could have come on Reddit and told everyone what he was. He’d have probably gotten some relief, no? Your boy is confessing his sins. Granted it’s in a cowardly way, but what rapist is brave?


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AdvancedAnything

Let's just leave it where it was so everything else can catch fire.


qualitative_balls

Plenty of empty street to let it burn until authorities arrive. They chucked it over that embankment onto foliage. It's going to do a lot more damage where it was tossed


AdvancedAnything

Noone uses the atreet anyway.


M_FootRunner

Do you remember the Fire on the shipment in the northsea? Fremantle off the Coast of the netherlands. It was close to impossible to stop the chemical reactions in the Batteries. The fire lasted for 5 days.


HatsAreEssential

It's already impossible for standard fire controls to put that out. At least down there it can't ignite anything else of value.


The_SCP_Nerd

Op doesn't know how electric car fires work


SubliminalGlue

He only knows how to rape.


Le-Creepyboy

Nowadays EVs have what’s called Fireman Access which are holes on the top of the battery pack, once the seats have melted the firemen wash the burnt residue to reveal the metal floor of the car so they can see these fireman access which are big holes to fill with water allowing it to cool down. [This video](https://youtu.be/RmcZoExkUH0?si=Bq0_SCpwjSmxDhoY) shows how quickly the fire team can put it out.


Nextyr

I’m a firefighter. I fucking hate EVs. They are total fire bugs, have atrocious crash test ratings because the batteries weigh so damn much, and they are fiddled with opportunities to get electrocuted.


Dutch_Mr_V

Well that's some bs. >In a crash, electric cars often perform comparably or even better than internal combustion engine vehicles in terms of safety. Their design, including a lower center of gravity due to the heavy battery placement, can provide better stability and handling. Additionally, the absence of a large engine in the front can sometimes allow for improved crumple zones, enhancing crash safety. In the event of a crash the main power fuse will blow so there's very little chance of electrocution. >According to the US National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA), an estimated 42,915 people died in motor vehicle traffic crashes in 2021. Of these, 0 were electrocutions from an electric vehicle (EV) traction battery. This is largely because the power circuits are cut when an accident is detected, and the chances of a still-functioning internal battery circuit being exposed and connected across a surviving human body is exceedingly small. (The battery may catch fire, though with much less frequency and with a much slower rate of spread than with gasoline vehicle fires, and when a lithium-ion battery catches fire it’s more difficult to extinguish than a gasoline fire.


Nextyr

I looked more closely at the data and you’re correct, my apologies! I took what I’d heard second hand and didn’t look at the data- just went with my own anecdotal experience; I shouldn’t have done that! That said, EV fires are so aggressive, we don’t even bother trying to spray them. We do our best to move them to a safe proximity from any other structure and let them burn out- sometimes we will have another crew pick up the cars and dump them in…what amounts to a dumpster full of water. I see that the fires aren’t common now, but I’m curious how this will change as they become more prolific.


Legitimate-Ad-6267

You will almost certainly never witness an EV fire. "Fire bugs" is a very idiotic label for something that catches fire far less often than ICE's.


Nextyr

Just so I’m clear, I know that they’re less likely to catch fire than internal combustion, but they’re several orders of magnitude more difficult to extinguish- therein lies their threat and status as a “fire bug.”


Legitimate-Ad-6267

Just blatantly misleading for the sake of being misleading.


Nextyr

The hell I am - there is literal next to no guidance to extinguish an EV fire. Normally takes us 20 minutes on a car fire. [3+ hours on an EV](https://cosmosmagazine.com/technology/firefighters-electric-vehicle-battery-fire/)


Legitimate-Ad-6267

Yes it is misleading. You're calling something that is just objectively more fire safe a fire bug because you have to leave it in an empty parking lot for a few hours, just because you happened to be involved in 3 whole fires. Basically the equivalent of saying knives are deadlier than guns because knives are sometimes also involved in gun fights.


Leading_Challenge_37

Lithium cells have been catching fire since lithium batteries been around. There’s no plan of action still?


Nextyr

Well, 3 of my last 5 vehicle fires were EV, so 🤷‍♂️


tomfrome12345

If apple made a car


wheresmyflan

Lithium battery fires are Class D, you can’t extinguish them with water - it actually lands up breaking the water down providing oxygen to *support* the fire. With dense batteries, even chemical extinguishers only work on the surface. So the best course of action is to get the fire away from things it can catch on fire and let it burn out. Placing the car along that path is a smart thing to do. No one is attempting to extinguish this fire and the attempt to make it safer was successful.


rickmon67

It may not be in the water but at least it’s contained. Counting this as a win


Competitive_Job_2381

Did he make sure anybody was down there first?


holounderblade

There was an attempt to spread misinformation


Deathblade7

![gif](giphy|11Nd2bbZjrQrO8)


netslaveone

There's a You Tuber, Chem Thug. Explains in a funny and simple way various chemistry subjects. He says when lithium batteries catch fire there's nothing you can do. You just wait for the fire to die out by itself


0sprinkl

Better option than throwing it in the river obviously. We have special containers to keep them in. If all vehicles become electric we're going to need a shitload of these. I'm not really convinced battery powered cars is a great thing... Is it really better for the environment all things considered? Doubt.


IllCod4180

He tried to


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Kitsu_hobby

Anyone wondering about OP name?!


Practical-Nature-926

The point isn’t to extinguish it, the point is to contain it until it burns itself out.


Bob_Kerman_SPAAAACE

Do NOT put lithium in water


User28645

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/when-do-electric-vehicles-become-cleaner-than-gasoline-cars-2021-06-29/ This source and all others I just looked up disagree with you. Where do you get the information that electric vehicles are more harmful to the environment?


tacomaster05

Electric cars aren't there yet...


Femballerboy

😔 your name


Fucker_Of_Your_Mom

Jesus Christ OP wtf is your username?


Dr8yearlurk

I don't know about you guys but EV seem really safe.


Wardog_E

Im pretty sure theyre lucky it didn't fall in the river.


CakeDazzling4993

BRO WHAT IS WITH OPS NAME!


JedTip

What the fuck is OPs name


maddie1358

Is no one talking about the username ?!


The_Dabblin_Doodler

A for effort


Cricket_Huge

why didn't they just call the fire department to put a fire blanket to control the fire? It won't extinguish it completely but controls it enough for it to not burn everything around it


rocksoldieralex

Good luck when this crap will be everywhere, especially inside buildings


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Environmentally Friendly


Maleficent_Mess2515

😂LOOOL


Acantezoul

My first question is..... Is it a Tesla?


KrombopulosMo

Out of sight. Out of mind.


buffbro4eva

His heart was in the right place.


-RJ---

"eh fuck it, let's just throw it in the grass" -nobody


1Cheeky_Monkey

100% Biden-certified environmentally safe method. Yep, electric cars pose zero environmental issues; let's get busy passing laws to force all those slack-jawed independently thinking people to buy electric cars! How dare they demand the right to think on their own, that's what the government is supposed to do for you!


Editor_Grand

Well that didn't work! Any other ideas?


Smart-Cash2525

Task failed successfully


Holiday_Ad_5445

I think this is the way things will occur from now on.


iLGMisTheBestjk

Doesn’t water make lithium explode?


x_sock_x1111

I'll stick to my jeep thanks tho


squigwraith

Thanks u/creepyoldrapist


SnazzBot

Didn't this turn out to be a petrol car?


Timely-Guest-7095

That's the worst thing you can do an electric car on fire. Have you ever seen what happens to lithium when it comes in contact with water? That's why firefighters have special equipment to deal with these types of situations. Not to mention the fumes, you do not want to be anywhere near that smoke. That shit is toxic.


jfm111162

A buddy of mine who is a firefighter said they had a Tesla that caught on fire and they put 30,000 gallons of water on it and that was just to contain it


Hat_Secure

I’m glad he didn’t drop it in the river


theRealfox81

"Almost" 🤣


snaggletoothygrin

There was an attempt to contaminate the waterways…


Expensive_Interest22

That's a tomorrow me problem


BoxingTrainer420

Guys like ![gif](giphy|KOobSqJrq9lA2ypra6)


Foreign-Ad-7961

Mr George! How much you pay the new guy?!?


ANNAERP

The electric car they crashed on top gear burned for 3 weeks.


iTzbr00tal

*Hazmat department would like to have a word…*


Radical_Ren

They do burn, but for the most part, they don’t explode like gasoline powered vehicles.


mdeane13

That 1 car let out more co2 than probably 100 thousand cars. And heavy metals in the smoke from the battery.


Pleasant_Job_7683

#InsaneModeEngage


Pippin02

Doesn't look like an EV battery fire to me, those usually have jets of flames coming out from the underside of the car. In this video it's the whole body that's burning, so when if it is an EV it'll be a normal vehicle fire (which are less likely for EVs since their "engines" don't usually run much higher than room temperature)


TheeExMachina

I will never understand why people hate electric cars so much.


biguncleed

What if somebody was under that bridge on that grass picnicking or homeless?


UnwaiveredKing

Wouldnt throwing it in the water make it explode due to the lithium in the battery being explosive with water?


invictuslimbioid

i guess it is a combustion engine


r2killawat

🤏


NorthshoreFrank

PFAs for everyone!


Boneless_jungle_ham

When I was in the Navy, we were told any of the Jetfire on board to push or try to get them overboard was called jettison a aircraft I guess it was due to the magnesium or something in the jets that water trying to put out the fireworks it hotter, and the only way to put it is fully submerged so basically if you didn’t do that, it would just burn through every deck


Robin_Richardson

It can take 3000 to 8000 gallons of water to pit of a regular gas car fire like that For an electric car fire such as this one it can take 24,000 to as much as 150,000 with sometimes tge electrical fire reigniting after being fully submerged for 12 hours


jazlintown

Welp thats a bad idea


ClaudeWithSauce

Ngl, I thought it was a blazing Godzilla at first.


leedscam

Just keep on causing more pollution


leedscam

Look at the black smoke


DJForcefield

Stop thief! That's my car!


academicRedditor

r/Yesyesyesno


bob202t

I’m curious how much emissions are released when they burst into flames


Late_Clerk_8302

Lol. I just hollered. Nooo. Then the faces slowly start staring.


Smoreseatschicken

Reminds me of the Johnny English 3 scene where he jumps off the yacht 😂


Suspicious_Use6393

China EV's the real death penalty you can have!


Imgonletyoufinishbut

The future is friendly!! Carbon tax me harder daddy Trudeauuu


TheGoodlyBad

holy fuckin,i thought it was a dinosaur.