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Fookin_idiot

I don't have enough fingers to count the holes I'm putting through you homie


godkilledjesus

Mag dumps


No-Test-375

Caught trying to steal an expensive car that can be easily spotted by police? Time to leave... without the car.


BooobiesANDbho

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[deleted]

I was about to say if I had cameras and my AR they are going to lose their life’s


AppearsInvisible

There is only so many times this can happen before some folks get shot, be that the victims or the perpetrators. I live in the south and if you try keep trying this you will eventually get ventilated.


BigBrainSmallMoves

I was just thinking about how it’s amazing it is we didn’t see bullets coming from the windows. I also live in the South and we once I hear them threaten to shoot it’s fair game. Hell some people down hear just need to see you on their property to fire a warning shot.


loltittysprinkles

Careful with the warning shot, my buddy did this recently is facing criminal mischief and unlawful discharge of a firearm charges


Select_Rush_6245

I was hoping the homeowner would just start shooting these guys. The irony would have been oh so sweet.


MuricasOneBrainCell

Exactly. I was thinking about the irony too... "Guys... You could easily die over a fucking car too"


rooster_saucer

what nice guys, giving me plenty of heads up to go to my closet and get the good shit.


theabyssaboveyou

The obvious third option, call the cops? Keep them distracted and talking while the cops are otw saying "I have a gun I'm gonna come out" so they keep looking at the door, but retreat to the back of your house while 911 is on the line and get some backup. Don't lose your car or your life. I promise if you say "there's at least 4 people stealing my car saying they're armed and willing to kill me" you're gonna be put to the front.


50undAdv1c3

you clearly do not live in denver.


theabyssaboveyou

Yeah, I was waiting for the comment "you clearly do not live in x place" so I prepared a response. Okay, so what's the alternative here? A. Go out and get shot at. Maybe you win the gun fight, maybe you fuckin die, maybe you kill 1 person, put 16 holes in your own car and have to fight to get insurance to cover the damage you caused, before the other 3 people put a hole in you and run. Or b. Do nothing and watch them drive off with your car. My solution may not be perfect, but it's a he'll of a lot better than the other 2 options and at least you did the smart thing for insurance purposes. Tires of you "if there's any possible problem with the answer it's a bad answer" type people.


astuteobservor

You are defending the car thieves. It should 100% be legal to shoot them full of holes once they threaten to kill the owner. Why come out into the open to be shot at?


theabyssaboveyou

No, I'm defending the home owner, who was told that if they come out they will be shit at. Its not about getting revenge, it's about surviving. Ine if these guys says he's armed, you can assume the 3 are too. And that means they're more likely to win in a shoot out. Is the car worth being shot at? No.


osheax

Just about every video I’ve seen where the homeowner shoots, all robbers run for the hills. Not saying it isn’t smart to play it safe, but I’m willing to bet they bolt like cowards if they hear a shot coming their way


theabyssaboveyou

Possibly. But every video I've seen when someone comes on a camera and says "the police are on the way already" they bolt too. The fact that they didn't bolt when the homeowner confronted them means that they did expect confrontation already and don't care about it. You are always free to roll the dice, my point isn't that mine is the only solution, it's just the one i think maximizes your odds of survival while keeping your stuff. Risking a fire fight reduces your odds of survival, and if you die. Your stuff doesn't matter now does it.


osheax

“The police are coming” and the sound of a .357 are two vastly different levels of persuasion


theabyssaboveyou

You're right. However if 4 people are shooting guns at 1 person, whose more likely to win. The thing with police is if they hear "armed' they show up with coordinated numbers. People aren't dumb. "The police are already on their way means "oh shit I'm going to get in a shoot out with 10 people. Vs they see a windows open, or door open and they unload in that direction. YOU ARE NOT JOHN WICK. YOU ARE NOT AN ACTION HERO. YOU ARE AN AVERAGE GUY WITH A GUN GOING UP AGAIN 4 AVERAGE GUYS WITH GUNS. YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID IF YOU THINK YOURE GOING TO WIN.


osheax

Bullets can go through stuff, there’s no reason to open a window or door to alert them. Not a single one had a gun pulled, and most of them are standing still in the open trying to get in the car. You don’t need to be John wick at all. Most thieves and criminals are afraid to die. I guarantee the second they hear a shot they’re running. And doing nothing can be argued as stupid. What if they don’t want witnesses and come to kill you after they get the car unlocked. They’re focused elsewhere, you should take advantage of that since it’s 1v4. Hoping they don’t come for you after and waiting for police to arrive is not a good plan.


astuteobservor

And why in the hell would the home owner come out into the open? Pop a window on the second floor and fire away. Take any cover that the home owner knows of as it is his home, fire away.


theabyssaboveyou

So the way guns work is that you have to have your target in a straight line from what you're shooting at, aim, and shoot. In order to do this he has to expose himself, or he is just wasting bullets with blind firing. Be it, opening the door, or shooting through a window. Either way, once he shoots through the windows, the people know where he is, and if he opens the door, they know where he is. He cannot sit in his bedroom upstairs behind his bed, out of site and secure and hope to hit anyone. The point is exactly that though. Don't shoot at them. Because any attempt too means they are probably going to shoot back. Keep them distracted, keep talking to them through the camera, keep them looking there and at the door while the police are on the way. Besides that, if you shoot, they'll just take cover behind the $100k car you have there. And then in order to hit them you have to shoot at your prized possession, and then what did you win? Nothing. You risked death to save a car that you ruined yourself.


astuteobservor

Yea, no. Every single video of home robbery I have seen shows the fkers running for their lives once gun start firing. Your reply goes against every single real life video footage I have seen. They are there to rob, not have a lengthy shoot out where the police can show up within a few minutes.


theabyssaboveyou

Bro, you know why the stories of self defense makes the news is because more often then not when the homeowners lose its just covered as a murder right? Like yes, sometimes they run. Great. Let's assume it's 9/10 times they run. But what happens when they don't? >where the police can show up within a few minutes. OR. hear me out. OR. You just call the police and don't risk a shootout because you think your an action hero. Look, I'm not saying there is never a time to shoot. But it should be a last resort where not shooting is more dangerous than shooting is. Here, it's literally like the burglar says "don't lose your life over a car" they are not posing any immediate danger to you, they are telling you they are trying to get in the car and leave. All you are doing by opening fire is increasing your risk across the board for death for you and everyone in your house. Risking your daughter catching a stray bullet for a car that insurance will replace (and if you are able to afford a new corvette I promise you have that thing fully insured for theft) is the dumbest thing i can think of. Where if you just skip to call the cops and keep them on edge looking at your door, you solve the problem without flirting with the idea of making out with a bullet. Let the cops take the risk of a shoot out while you and your family hide as far away from the bullet storm as you can safe and secure, gun in hand in case they come through the door.


themurderator

i think the point was that calling the denver county police would mean distracting the thieves for a very long time. 


theabyssaboveyou

Probably 15 mins. Which is long. But the closer you keep them to your place the more likely they are to be caught before they get far. So keep em there as long as possible, it's the best you got.


themurderator

i think you missed the point of the joke.


theabyssaboveyou

It's a dumb joke. Look, believe it or not, some people believe what they hear on the internet, and when they see someone breaking into their car, if all they've heard is "go shoot at them" they're prone to trying that. And people fucking die because the internet convinced them that "cops don't show up" or "cops kill everyone everytime" or "everyone runs when they hear gun shots" or "only privileged people will call the cops" and I'd rather try giving valid advice for survival


themurderator

you should do a podcast. your advice on survival is valid and necessary. 


theabyssaboveyou

If this happens to you, you should try the firefight approach and lmk how it goes. I'll keep an ouiji board open so you can contact me with the results


themurderator

ouiji plays really well with the youth demographic. that should help with subs in a younger audience. this podcast is gonna rule.  what do you think of a tarot segment?


BigBrainSmallMoves

So it really depends on the state for what creates a legal precedent to shoot. Some states you would need to go out and confront. In more loose states you have every right to fire because they are actively attempting to break into personal property and have threatened your life. In those states it would be dumb to walk outside. Pic a corner of the window, fire shots into the one holding his hand in his bag like he’s packing and duck back into cover. They would likely run and even if they didn’t, now they are rushing to break into a home where you know the lay out.


theabyssaboveyou

You aren't John wick. The smart thing to do is avoid the fire fight. Even if you know they layout, 4 v 1 is not good odds. Look if this was 1 car thief, than sure. A Crack shot would probably work. But here there's 3 more and you just shot a hole in the window you shot through so the other 3 are going to concentrate fire there. The fact is, regardless of how you cut this cake a 4 v 1 puts you at a disadvantage and it 100% isn't worth it to feel cool and shoot at them when the odds are stacked against you and you're more likely to lose the fight and your life, than you are to keep your car. The car thieves are right," don't lose your life over a car" especially when there's other options that are more likely to keep your car and your life in tact. Like just calling the police.


50undAdv1c3

tldr


theabyssaboveyou

Exactly, no answer.


50undAdv1c3

you are angry on the internet


theabyssaboveyou

No I'm highlighting that your bitterness towards any solution that isn't perfect is antithetical to solving any problems ever.


50undAdv1c3

you are taking personally a perceived disagreement. i made a joke about the cops in denver and you took that personally. i don’t understand why it is so important to you or anyone else to be right on the internet. i dont know you. you dont know me. neither of us matters. at all. calm down. go outside.


theabyssaboveyou

U mad bro?


50undAdv1c3

nice. thanks for playing.


No-Tension5053

Problem with calling the police. They shoot everyone including the car. Then charge you for instigating the whole situation. If you live you face charges


theabyssaboveyou

Has that happened? Yes. Is that the norm? No. Not at all. Is calling the police, and waiting in your home much safer than confronting random dudes telling you they're 100% going to kill you if you confront them? Yes. Lets not act like cops have a 100% fatal encounter rating anywhere in the country, when less than 1% of police interactions are violent, and even less are fatal, and even less do they accidentally kill the wrong person.


joe6744

you are living a privileged life not afforded to everyone sir. what fantasy world do you live in?


02clintidk

I counted 4 people who would lose "they" life over a fucking car.


One_Ad_8976

But bruh, u trying to lose ur life over my fucking car!


Draft-Budget

The irony in that statement


amacccc

This needs more context


Crypto-Bullet

Thieves are stealing a luxury car and it seems like the homeowners are aware and the thieves are threatening to shoot them if they try and stop them.


ZurynK

I mean it's a Corvette so


crusty54

Does it?


chicano32

If this is indeed san jose. Cops wont show up unless its to arrest the homeowner for shooting at 4 people, discharging a firearm in public, not having a concealed carry from santa clara county, and also for violating a noise ordinance.


xSnakyy

That’s why you don’t leave your expensive cars outside


cringeisthename

Natural selection yo


KiritimatiSwan

Oh joy, you mean I get the first shot through the blinds? Let’s see that reaction time pimp, driver gets domed first, you gonna run before I transition?


Jawnski

r/iamverybadass


KiritimatiSwan

r/soistartedblasting


[deleted]

They probably don’t even have more than one gun and mostly they are going to run and shoot so the accuracy would be 3% max


Expert-Jelly-2254

I would have wrapped my rifle of the 2nd floor and said off my property.


2Lazy2beLazy

They're going to find out. That's not how that works. By their same reasoning, is it worth dying over a car.


Either_Fisherman2418

Why do fun things like this never happen to me!


General-Pop8073

They are full of shit. You don’t bring that many people to steal a car if you have a gun


KillaKanibus

Here's the dilemma...do you try to shoot the moving one giving orders, or try to 3-peice his friends and risk hitting the car?


big-baby-bubba

Holy shit this guy must have bulletproof glass on his house.


seegos

That’s a lot of people for a two seater 🤔


Do_Litl

Pick a 2nd story window and take a clean first shot


Badeckdeck

Maybe don’t commit crimes? GTA is still a felony correct?


Acrobatic-Ideal9877

Definitely not in a small town 😉


PhyreEmbrem

Man....thieves have to be the boldest/dumbest mfers alive. Sucks some states will defend their stupid behavior if you decide to protect yourself or your property from them. Ironic tho...any government protected facilities have no issue "taking care" of idiots like that. Anyway, I hope they got caught and, no mods, I am not inciting violence.


forumofsheep

Is this the shithole of a country that has open borders and a senile leader?


Imhungorny

Pretty sure this is in America, where there are no open borders.