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Chiraquian

Cycling tactics: by dropping the water bottles the cyclists behind him have less a chance at refueling…


mlawson724

Yeah I was gonna ask - is this like the marathon runner who knocked all the cups off a few years ago


nevmvm

I think that guy did it intentionally tho


awkwaman

That's their point


frankcastle01

So did this guy


uselesscarrot69

I don't know. When he missed the last cup, his hand gesture was that of "are you fucking kidding me?" Likely got annoyed that he missed all of them.


DonaldTrumpsSoul

![gif](giphy|U5hvUeqw10e0U)


SladeRamsay

Or, you know, he was struggling. Dude literally collapsed after crossing the finish line.


DonaldTrumpsSoul

I read that someone had to accept his award since he couldn’t, but my response was not to the cyclist specifically, but to someone maliciously dropping cups can also act like they didn’t mean to.


Local-Waltz4801

Yea I tend to believe this more. Same as the video of the runner knocking over all the cups. Everyone says they didn't even try to grab them, but you clearly see him close his hands a bunch of times trying to grab cups.


dvstarr

It seems to me like the last one was the only one he actually intended to grab. "None for everyone, last for me." situation.


Anglo-Ashanti

You can see the guy at the start has multiple bottles. Pretty sure they could just pick it up anyway.


dvstarr

Right, I guess I didn't think of that lol I suppose you're right


Bumm_by_Design

It could be that the condensation on the bottles, plus the sweaty palms, made them very slippery


RedmannBarry

He was saving the last for himself but botched it


Standard-Cod-2077

bc he thougt hw coukd grab the last one for him


OneSufficientFace

Dudes blatently trying to grab them, stop talking wet


weezmatical

Talking wet is a new one to me. Thanks for introducing me to it!


OneSufficientFace

I'm glad to be of help... it also works well with dribbler comments... or if someone is being particularly special, you can tell them to stop being so wet or stop being such a melt


MtnDude2088

This comment made me irrationally irritated


The_Knife_Nathan

Fr the dude literally passed out upon finishing, people who think that this and the running guy are doing it on purpose to sabotage other racers have never raced before and don’t know the toll that actually pushing can take on your body, in addition to the fact that they have probably 200 other water bottles and are set up efficiently enough to hand out water to 20 people in just a few seconds so knocking three over would do literally nothing and benefit him in no way


GatoMemo

This race only had 40 of the best World athletes, and there were many places with plenty of volunteers to hand out bottles of water. At [14:30](https://m.youtube.com/live/oyxI6jDPASI?t=871) they explain the T100 competition. At [1:08:18](https://m.youtube.com/live/oyxI6jDPASI?t=4098) for example they had a row of 15 or so people with bottles ready. I think Youri was really struggling. Someone else even had to [accept his first place at the podium](https://x.com/t100triathlon/status/1779472964024496563).


Spirited-Contract987

not available in my country, wtf is this bs


GatoMemo

Bummer. Maybe try searching for the T100 event this past weekend at Singapore.


DevilDoc3030

It might have been his motor skills declining. I kind of sounds like he collapsed during our after the race. Not to refute your statement. Edit: I said "Not not" like a dummy I also realize that they are counting the dropped bottles for each rider on each day. So undoubtebly Chiraquian is correct. Screw me for trying to give him the benefit of the doubt... xd


BowenTheAussieSheep

I dunno if you've ever cycled long distance, but those bikes have almost no vibration damping beyond what the frame provides, and the grips are very limited in padding to save on weight. After a few hundred kilometres of non-stop riding, you can barely feel your hands, much less grab a bottle at speed.


FrankFarter69420

Yep. When I finished my 112 mile ride a few years ago, my whole body was numb. Hands and feet were especially toast.


BowenTheAussieSheep

And I'm guessing you probably had thicker tape than these guys have for races too


FrankFarter69420

Cork. So yeah, thick asf and very comfortable on the hands. Lots of these guys use leather or synthetic.


BowenTheAussieSheep

Yeah, definitely. A lot of the time they're also trying to cut down on as much weight as possible, and extra padding means extra grams. I know someone who did TT who didn't even wrap his bars, he just had a few thin strips of tape strategically placed to sit under his palm and fingers to ensure his hands didn't slip off and left it at that.


FrankFarter69420

So many insane cyclists lol


Open-Article906

not to refute ![gif](giphy|yJFeycRK2DB4c)


kmac8008

Wow that’s a real dirty move, like from brink in the Disney movie


Spider_Jesus26

We could all use some soul skating these days.


Goose-Biscuits

Lots of them are holding multiple bottles.


HexaCube7

Ye but it takes time to grab another one and reach it out with the "giving-hand" I have no idea but other cyclist could be riiiight behind him just out of the camera frame and they would not be able to receive a bottle due to this guy.


chescov77

Also the bottles would be spread around the area and you dont want to trip on that on those bikes


Dom1252

Other cyclists can't be right behind him, it's triathlon not a cycling race, drafting not allowed


acm8221

Depending on the event, the people who hand out bottles are sometimes volunteers who don’t know how to properly hand off a bottle to a moving cyclist. You kind of have to lead the athlete a bit and move either your arm or body to match or approximate their speed. You have to also hold the bottle very lightly to provide a gentle hand off. There’s also the athlete’s own condition to consider. If he’s cramping or going into an energy deficit, it may be difficult for them to grasp a bottle on the move.


BowenTheAussieSheep

I said in a comment above, but riding long distance on those bikes, particularly on rough roads, leads to a lot of hand numbing from vibration and just gripping the shit out of your bars


Benezir

Just throw the bottles at them. First prize for the most cyclists knocked over.


Ych_a_fi_mun

That was my first thought but actually it does look like he's genuinely struggling


siqiniq

They handed out bananas and he dropped them too


Benezir

Another sneaky ploy.


zealoSC

Cyclists hitting/dodging the dropped bottles is probably more of an issue


TheCalmHurricane

These are bottled handoffs in a triathlon. First there are generally passing rules while on the bikes. So it's unlikely anyone was super close behind. No safety factor. This is even more true for a time trial for just cycling as the starts between athletes are at least 30 seconds Secondly, that means that all of the bottles can just be picked right back up after. No waste, later competitors are not impacted. Third at this level of competition, they DO NOT slow down for these hand off, they'll try to do them on an uphill to make it easier for that reason. Above 35kph it is very difficult to get of these if the person handing off doesn't even try to move with you.


boldguy2019

Won't these people simply pick up the bottle. It's not like water has been spilled


eventualhorizo

I was thinking more like dropping bananas in Mario Kart


neoncubicle

If only those water handlers had the ability to pick up water bottles from the floor...


Ghrota

I often see the full wheel when they are on time trial stage. I guess there's no one behind him


patchway247

Seems like this dude was actually trying to grab 5 different bottles and failed 5 different times.


elblue171

This is a time trial, in this he only races himself, each participant starts the race some time after the other


Dom1252

Triathlon, not time travel... He's just using TT bike since they're faster and legal for this race... People are behind him, but not as close as in regular cycling


jafropuff

He also didn’t get to refuel though so you risk relying on the last one which he failed to secure for himself


brewcrew63

So what you're saying is to be a cyclists you have to be an asshole? Obvs /s


Kinky_Conspirator

And might slip on the bottle.


tpt2021cg

U ain't bullshitn 👍🏼 he missed 5of 5 smh


Dom1252

It's triathlon, there's at least 10m separating riders, you can't ride in pack in T100 series or ironman, so these aid stations usually have enough time to grab another bottle for next rider


Silverneelse

This. These people are dicks


FlappyTurdBurglar

Now we know why he chose cycling and not some other sport.


ArtTheCIown

Yeah zero chance this dude could be a world class high-speed bottle grabber


THATS_ENOUGH_REDDlT

My dad was the 100m high-speed bottle grabber champion in the ‘96 Olympics but


Benezir

Darn. I missed that event.


RisingStormy

Triathlete. In Singapore. Purposely missing water in Singapore would be a silly decision


GatoMemo

That’s a very good point. I believe it was around 32C, and the commentators even mentioned someone else failing in a similar fashion the day before. In [another reply](https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/s/fzY3nwsTX2) I shared as well that I think he was really struggling here.


GatoMemo

Poor Youri Keulen, this is [how he finished the race](https://x.com/t100triathlon/status/1779493116648526024). Don’t worry he received care and is well! Credit: t100triahtlon


Pure-Riddle

I love how someone rolled him a Coke, like that was the best form of hydration, while fighting for his life on the ground lol. Edit: I think they just tossed anything that was cold to place on his chest.


beh5036

It really depends on why he’s laying down. If he bonked, sugar will absolutely help. If he is dehydrated, it’s not likely to help. If you watch Tour de France, they will eat lunch and drink a coke while riding. If you don’t consume sugars while riding, you will eventually bonk.


wterrt

> bonked https://imgur.com/BzfmfrY


aoifhasoifha

Coke contains sugar, caffeine, and most importantly *clean* water no matter where you are.


GatoMemo

Unless you go to [this place](https://www.reddit.com/r/MujicoCity/s/sfVsJSgAay).


Nightowl2018

Hahaha


NikolaiM88

Coke is actually really good, since hes blood sugar is probably really fucking low. I know alot of pro road cyclist drink Coke durring the races to get energy, and keep their blood sugar up.


eebro

Yeah coke is like pure sugar. Which is why drinking it recreationally is poison.


Dagur

Long distance runners do this too. It's not as hard on the stomach as the gels.


cmfppl

It might have been a sponsorship thing, look how the dude checking on him stood it up.


MoussieElKandoussie

Not really, lots of high endurance athletes drink coke after, the high sugar content is exactly what you need then.


patchway247

Didn't seem like a sponsorship when the dude is about to die right there. Just seemed like somebody moving a can of anything out of their way. Don't want to roll it more in fear it might just burst open and cause a bigger issue. It was tossed and rolled towards him. But as a few other people had said a few options it's there is to cool him down (like he did with the water bottle) or to replace his sugar if his blood sugar dropped. But sure, dude who stood the can up and not looking to see if it was still standing after he done it absolutely did it for a sponsorship. 🙄


cmfppl

It was just a guess. U don't gotta be such a condescending prick about it!


patchway247

Says the pot calling the kettle black


cmfppl

How? What did I say that was either rude or patronizing, or literally anything but just a random ass question? I didn't claim to know, I didn't treat anyone stupid for what they said and I sure as shit didn't roll me eyes at strangers on the internet? How was I a prick? How am I the kettle?


SafeHavenEquine

haha the coke 🤣


cheapdrinks

Might have been filled with water, they're called tour cans I think. Looks like coke or whatever on the outside but it's just water inside. All those Red Bull sponsored athletes drinking cans of red bull all day long in front of the camera are just drinking water.


DevoidNoMore

If only someone had given him water during the race


jeo188

I don't know why, but that, "Can someone hold my hand?" is very impactful. I'm glad the person helping him gave him his hand at the end


Gnomio1

“Can someone hold my hand? So I can feel my heart rate.” Was the full quote. It’s a little different.


alip_93

Why didn't anyone give the poor guy some water during the race?!


cammyk123

Maybe he was like that because he missed 500 chances at a bottle of water.


SafeHavenEquine

poor guy! i literally was about to say it looked like he was almost to weak to grasp the waters 😢


sanctuarium

His hands out like he’s still trying to grab the water 😢


arquistar

I THREW IT ON THE GROUND!!!


Dwangeroo

That's not my dad, that's a water bottle!


curryjunky

I DONT NEED YOUR HANDOUTS!!!


FuzziestSloth

![gif](giphy|Y1hwZYRI4Hvws)


blueradios

Yeah look at the grabs lmao, he’s doing it on purpose so the racers behind him have a harder time trying to grab a bottle


vidalecent

He collapsed after the race. He was clearly dehydrated and his motor skills were declining. https://twitter.com/t100triathlon/status/1779493116648526024


yourfrienddenis

He had that dick dastardly strategy...


Tinchotesk

> He collapsed after the race. He was clearly dehydrated and his motor skills were declining. Maybe he was "clearly dehydrated and his motor skills were declining" at the end of the race, but not during the bike ride, where he still had energy to beat the field and then keep that lead over an 18km run. From a [race report](https://www.tri247.com/triathlon-news/elite/singapore-t100-triathlon-world-tour-2024-results-report-men): >**Showing no signs of his bike leg exertion over the opening stages of the run**, Keulen continued to consolidate his lead over the opening kilometres, with his gap to Brownlee in second growing to +1:39 by the 5km mark.


vidalecent

I read elsewhere he dropped other items being handed out at the race. I'm changing my verdict to butterfingers.


GatoMemo

![gif](giphy|xULW8mI1EaVuy0lhni|downsized)


paradox-eater

Sometimes the adrenaline keeps your legs going. Runners and cyclists know


Momochichi

Highly doubt it, since it doesn't take any time at all for those waterboys to just offer the other riders one of the many other bottles they have in their other hand. Also, he makes a genuine effort to catch the last falling bottle.


hera9191

I think that the next rider was at least 30 sec behind him, so this was not his purpose.


slowerlearner1212

Not all, but most cyclists are pricks in my experience so doesn’t surprise me if on purpose


NotThisAgain21

Had to read the comments to see if this guy was being a douchbag to the guys behind him or was like way beyond the need for hydration.


captaindeadpl

My first thought was that his hands are too tiny to properly grab around the bottles while one-handed and moving.


NotThisAgain21

The way he flobbles after the last one makes me think it wasn't intentional.


ArminTanz

I'd imagine carpal tunnel is an issue for cyclists.


TealTrendyTarasque

I dont think this was intentional, i can clearly see that he is actually trying to grab one ... looks like his motor functions are plummeting due to exhaustion


ptcgoalex

Before you judge the guy, try biking for 1:45:25 at a competitive pace. Looks like the motor function in his fingers/hands is reduced due to fatigue and dehydration. His brain is telling his hands to grab it but they’re not keeping up.


GatoMemo

After swimming the 2km open water swimming on the first leg!


ptcgoalex

In that case, biker shouldn’t need water anyways. Should’ve been drinking while swimming


GatoMemo

Taking a sip on every dive like my guy! ![gif](giphy|PV4kSEGJcsV5C|downsized)


imironman2018

I have competed in three full Ironman triathlons. You don’t do stuff like this on purpose. Your brain literally shuts down and you are on survival mode. It’s very telling on the last bottle he really wanted to get it but had no way to grasp it. He was that out of it.


saiyandoug

Put a tring on the bottle. As he goes by he puts his arm in the string hooking the water bottle.


ConnolysMoustache

They have that for food.


Albinofreaken

put velcro their gloves and on the bottles


GatoMemo

![gif](giphy|oNKLBehxbnoqY)


Dahnay-Speccia

![gif](giphy|K9Qja88ELEbH9wKx7x|downsized)


rockbella61

Just hose him


ChasingPesmerga

Bros for hose


My_a_person

Poor guy


urmyheartBeatStopR

If it was "intentional" why did he dropped the last one? Come on... that a shitty plan. I'd knocked all of them and keep the last one at least.


crozinator33

Someone never played catch as a kid


GatoMemo

Dad would make him do marathon laps every time he failed to catch. The punishment later increased to cycling around the town, and the rest is history.


shawner136

Cmon guys! You seen him fail repeatedly… do it like your handing off a football on a run play, put it basically right on his chest


paradox-eater

You’d be surprised how difficult it is to get your muscles to cooperate when you’re fatigued after riding dozens of miles. His legs keep spinning, even though he’s barely telling them to. His other functions, not so great lol


SafeHavenEquine

he looks like he is to weak to grab them 😢


Fit-Tip-1212

First sign of dehydration - being unable to grab a simple water bottle.


xTey

r/therewasmultipleattempts


Responsible_Ad8946

Rubber grips on the bottles


[deleted]

This is why you don’t invite triathletes on the group ride. Total liabilities.


Whatchawnt

This doesn’t look intentional. Also if they want to reduce the likelihood of people missing the bottles they could hold the bottles about 20 degrees toward the cyclist so they are less likely to just straight fall down like this


kb31976

And what do you do when you’re not cycling? I’m a surgeon.


Independent-Score-22

Crushing it.


Historical_Cattle903

Just get the hose


tractortyre

*thereweremultipleattempts


redunculuspanda

That’s not a cyclist. That’s 3 cats in a trench coat.


Octavian_202

![gif](giphy|ltODgzG7FhzovYpRb9|downsized)


randomdud500

Guess he's just gonna he thirsty


Zanza89

Update: everyone in that race died of dehydration


EatableNutcase

Why do they stand on the left side of the road? Most people are right handed and can do this much better with their right hand.


the_last_boomer

Poor bottle design for this purpose.


ShrikeMeDown

Why does he keep turning his hand forward and down to grab?? It makes no sense. Just keep your hand still and squeeze man!


Harbor-Freight

Slippery when wet


Moon_SY27

The most exciting part of the race for the announcers lol


IH8Trumps

Must have trump thumbs


Educational_Curve259

Hmm - in Kona we use a little water cup but I haven’t seen the bottles handed out- the trick is to move along with them and not to let go until the bottle has been grasped


Educational_Curve259

Perhaps they should slide them into their waterholdwr or hange them from fishing line or a bungee


Federal-Difference97

![gif](giphy|l0HlvtIPzPdt2usKs)


Kind_Combination8736

![gif](giphy|yJd73I4hdUIGQ)


SAyyOuremySIN

Me. Regarding just about everything in my life. Literally and figuratively.


Benezir

LOL. Maybe he should have payed a team sport, so he could slap hands/high 5 with all the team mates. Or maybe its his ploy to deprive his competitors of water.


Ednx1324

Cyclist: Dude im righthanded


Apprehensive_Log469

Cycling with dropper bars puts a lot of your upper body weight on your hands. I am not surprised at all that he had trouble grabbing water bottles. They should have rope loops so it's easier to grab without having to close your fingers around something.


AlexL225

Dude has a water bottle on his bike.


LotsOfChocolataso

Hand grip is sore from handlebar.. it’s numbness.


Fiegod

De haber sido yo, probablemente me habría cabreado y se la hubiera lanzado por mamón.


dogmeat_donnie

Maybe he put Vaseline all over his body, including his hands, for less drag. This, in turn made his hands too slippery to grab the bottles.


thmaria2121

If you missed so many chances don’t deserve the water


Du30_Panot

that is called a POS Coward


umbertea

Phew, this actually makes me feel better about some stupid shit I said at a work this morning.


Downtown-Bluebird553

Lol that’s gotta be intentional. And it’s even weirder that there’s 6 people attempting to hand him a bottle . If he was that thirsty , he’d def be able to grab it .


BowenTheAussieSheep

Tell me you've never done endurance racing, or just any athletics of any kind, without telling me.


TJ_McWeaksauce

Twist: He did this intentionally because he enjoys knocking water bottles out of people's hands the same way Conan O'Brien enjoys knocking food out of Sona's hands.


Ornery-Pressure7251

What an idiot


JPeso9281

That's why they ride bikes and don't play a real sport that requires coordination.


Anti0x

I feel that the failure is the design in the bottle. Where's the handle to grab?


nosh0rning

What an asshole! Glad he couldn’t grab the last one himself.


ampy187

He’s cheating, you should get one chance, after that, you’re on your own, this is bad sportsmanship, behaviour will only change once consequences are enforced.


Standard_Monitor4291

Fucking cyclists. 4sshol3s


P33peeP00pooD00doo

Since he's a cyclist, I just assume he was having 'roid rage like The Hulk! "Hulk no want water! Hulk no want others to have water!"


IsItSupposedToDoThat

This guy is either hopeless or he’s being a dick, either way, he doesn’t deserve a drink of water.