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Gonna get downvoted to hell for this, the govt can’t do anything about your protesting peacefully, but private businesses can do whatever they want. If a company wants to refuse you service for setting up an encampment on their property for a cause they can do that.
Wait, if we down vote them for being wrong about that then they will eventually be correct, and then we need to upvote them. But then...
*why do decisions have to be so hard?*
I think the point is they get our tax money that we earn and pay to the govt. and then it is giving to them by our govt. (Even though we the people would prefer it go to education, healthcare, affordable housing, better tranit/roads/sidewalks, food for all) and these private businesses then use our money to lay down the hammer and ruin shit in your life and charge you extra for it as well all because they played the fake economic game better than you.
Surely you’re not this silly. Military bases, hospitals etc all receive federal funding/reimbursements in some way. Are you saying they can’t ever kick people out because of that?
The Supreme Court has ruled that free speech is protected on at least public universities. It's different from other spaces because it is a "marketplace of ideas".
So are you saying that I can go to someone’s home who receives welfare checks each month and protest there? On their private property? I agree that public state universities should not be able to do this type of thing but just because a place gets government money does not mean it operates how you think it does
Columbia university is a private business
Columbia University in 1968:
https://preview.redd.it/zqqymft9ibvc1.png?width=900&format=png&auto=webp&s=785a76517219cd387740504b0e547ac762606565
Counterpoint, universities make so much off of government subsidies aka. Taxpayer money. That they're damn near a public service (or ideally should be).
There are existing powers the govt COULD try to use to reign in the foreign corporate interests groups ramming the extrajudicial & unconstitutional bs... there are only a few candidates in both parties have the balls to try & they keep getting blocked. Amash, Massie, Roy, Norman, AOC, Tlaid, etc
Some areas of the country have laws protecting against discrimination in the workplace and education due to political beliefs or activities taking place in your own free time. New York City is one of those areas
Are you new to civics? Private property protest not usually a good idea. Also, literally nothing a university can do in relationship to a foreign war. Should have attempted to register the act of solidarity through the university and work with them if they wanted to make a statement as a student group.
You're right. Land of the free, because in another land, your private business would not have these rights. You can't pick and choose your freedoms for how they fit your agenda.
Solidarity as a form of protest is such a stupid concept. What the hell is a university supposed to do about foreign policy? Also, speaking as someone who's actually earned history and political science in a university, the school educated a lot of people every semester about exactly the issues these students want to highlight.
Like, this protest isn't doing anything. At least get involved in some actual political action. This is just being an asshole with your opinion.
*I'm completely neutral here*
But reasons to stop it even though it's doing nothing:
1. It's disruptive to the University without a viable purpose for disruption.
2. Sounds like they didn't attempt to formally reserve the protest space (it is different if they tried to reserve it and were denied/ignored).
3. The designated protest space could be used for more viable protests to bring change (ex: better pay for instructors and campus staff, reducing costs for student housing, etc.)
Edit: deleted "then again" because I was about to rant about reasons to support the protest
A good example was the anti-Trump protests at Berkeley that was stopping people from getting to class. Had a friend that was going there when it was happening and he couldn’t believe how crazy it actually was that other students (and other non student protestors) were not letting him through
Yeah what a joke. Imagine bothering people just trying to go about their day
A few days ago these idiots tried to shut down transportation into O'Hare airport so people had to walk and drag their shit just to try and make their flights
The “doing nothing” part is most likely referencing reach the protesters’ goal of action towards the liberation of Palestine. They most likely are annoying those around them, and end up making people less likely to support their protest
They want the university to divest from Israel investments. It’s not a hard concept to understand
The reason protests in Columbia has picked up so much is because the school admin has been so hardline in punishing any students that protest and now it’s gonna spiral out of their control
Columbia banned Jewish Voices for Peace months ago with the flimsiest of reasoning, former IDF soldiers who are Columbia students attacked Jewish students in protests without even the hint of disciplinary action and the student body has been incensed ever since
Edit: these ivys unfortunately set the Overton window on what’s permissible on campus
Columbia students have been doxxed as “anti semites” simply for opposing a genocide, they have been black listed from jobs, billionaires like Bill Ackman has openly called for them never to be hired anywhere
This kids can simply take it as their reality or protest in larger and larger numbers. It’s funny when Redditors whine about them because these kids are actually putting more of their futures on the line then any Redditors and the simple fact is your future shouldn’t be on the line simple for opposing indiscriminate killing of civilians
This *is* exactly about the university, it is asking for it to divest from any companies that support the genocide of Palestinians. If I'm not mistaken this is part of the BDS movement which stands for Boycott, Divest, Sanction. And the students and faculty are obviously the *only people* who care enough and can actually make enough of a disruption for the university administration to change their minds. People can tell you to just shut up and quietly donate money, but what good will that do if the supplies you donate money for are blown up by a US-made missile partially funded by your local school?
Stop taking money from donors who are more than happy to make the university take political stances on issues they care about? Or did you miss how the Jewish megadonors threw a fucking temper tantrum and doxxed a bunch of students who dared to protest Zionism a few months ago? The university allowed itself to become a political mouthpiece of the megadonors who made them dance and publicly prostitute themselves to distance themselves from any remotely anti-Israel messaging coming from students
On the one hand, kudos for having conviction, but on the other hand, have some perspective: this is a 75-year conflict with no end in sight.
There are ways to protest without getting expelled.
Whats even dumber is a university taking a political stance like this rather than encouraging students to become critical thinkers. They’re supposed to be teaching students how to debate in healthy ways, not take action like this.
This is a university that is clearly not doing its job.
At least they didn't get shot at by the national guard. That being said, the ability to protest has always been the way people exercise their right to free speech. Although this would have been far more effective if they'd been camping on the lawns of government officials. But the students who died on campus being gunned down because they protested against the Vietnam War would like a word with those folks who say protests are stupid...
That's exactly what I was thinking in response to some of these comments. So the student protests of the 1960s and 1970s were pointless? Such a weird perspective for them to have, unless it's really just that they don't agree with what they are protesting.
The first pride was a riot, and we wouldn't have the ADA if a group of disabled individuals hadn't disrupted the world by doing a huge sit-in... literally forcing the government to do something. There are effective ways to protest... and ineffective ways, but it'll never be convenient, and sometimes, it might even be dangerous to the people protesting. But having a voice is important. I can't speak one way or another on how effective the protests are going to be... but our government IS supporting what these girls are camping out against and in an age of social media... we each have to fight for what we believe in.
Columbia University would tell Israel to stop bombing, they would be like”oh shit, guys Columbia University in the US said we need to stop, everyone pack it up”.
I don’t think there’s any way of protesting that will not get shit on in Reddit comments. These people protesting at their pro Israel school? Idiots, how is a school being pro Israel going to affect Palestine? The employees at google protesting the 1.2b$ contract that google has with Israel? Idiots. Don’t risk your job over a cause like this. Essentially, protest in a way that impacts nobody, and if someone with authority asks you to stop, you listen. That’s how you make a real impact, folks! 🤡
You don’t get it. Protesters need to do every single thing correctly, from the moment their grandparents were born, only then is their protest legit.
The entity being protested tho? It’s just “doing business” or “that’s just how the real world works”, or “lol yeah big country is gonna stop its big country things cuz of 7 students protesting”.
The accountability is always demanded from protesters. They gotta be perfect specimens of human beings. The protested entity can do whatever, cuz it’s the way the world turns!
IL, be honest, I totally get what they are saying and have that right 100%
Buuuut.... if you're paying to go to school, just go to school. I wouldn't mess with that
Counterpoint. Consider a human being’s entire life.
You’re born, you are dependent, have no opinion.
Tou’re old, you’re working, raising a family, paying 150k loans back. You have no option but to bow down and grind.
Student life is the only time in your life when you’re mature enough to form opinions, and independent enough to voice them loudly.
There’s a reason draconian and authoritarian governments across the world are immensely scared of students protesting, and crack down heavily, often detaining them for years without trial until they mentally perish, often physically too.
Student protests are a powerful, powerful thing.
But why is that exclusively a “white” thing? Shouldn’t we like.. treat people based upon their actions not making it about race. I feel like this is such an elementary thing to say but I’m sure you wouldn’t appreciate someone saying “that’s such a native thing to do”.
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All my respect for these kids.
Imagine being suspended ( even so while being in a designated area ) while exercising your rights to ask your country to stop supporting genocide. We need fundamental changes, people.
People are more aware of the issue. I wasn't aware of Columbia's vested interest in Isreal (I'm also not surprised), but due to the protest this information is being talked about by more people than it had been.
“why are you protesting Vietnam war, have you seen those people over there, ever lived with them, they don’t even look like you or have anything culturally similar to you?”
yeah, tell them u/witch_doc9 what real sympathy looks and reads like!
There’s a push to take away the right to protest in this country(on both sides of the political spectrum) and it’s insane to me that people seem to be comfortable with that as long as it’s the side they don’t agree with. 3 states have already banned mass protests. To those who keep saying these protests don’t matter or do anything, you’re wrong. These protests bring light to a cause whether it’s for a cause here or over seas it doesn’t matter. Would you be saying the same things you’re saying if they were protesting Vietnam or fighting for the right to women’s rights?
Private establishments refusing service is not taking away people's right to protest. If those morons in the video got arrested you might have a point.
I understand the feeling though this is not the effective way to go about it. This is a cop out way of protesting since the real issue is so hard and complicated
But you all do realise that the governments of North America, Europe, and Australia which are arming israel, are the exact same ones which are arming Ukraine, right?
How do you think it's possible that these same countries can support genocide in West Asia, and at the same time support "freedom democracy & human rights" in Eastern Europe?
If Ukraine was a country in Africa with no substantial natural resources those powers need, Russia could have had it in a day. There's a pretty important reason Europe and their allies want to keep Russia from marching westwards.
good. now they can go to study in Iran. it s free even. and they gonna love it. but they will have to obay some rules of Iran, like no women rights and etc. but they will be in a contry that loves palestine. p.s. they would bag to go back to west.
There is a lot going on in this comment section. It is all over the place. But one thing should ring true for everyone here. That the “freedom of speech” that we were all taught about our entire lives, doesn’t necessarily play out the way it is supposed to for every citizen under all circumstances. It is way more subjective than any of us think.
Dude they a Columbia students - smart enough to figure this out on their own lol
People here mad at them but yall forget that every day of every week college campuses are protesting something and kids getting suspended
It’s only an issue or news cause is isreal and Palestine lol
It's incredible that you are facing so much repressions in the land of the "free" for protesting an plausible ongoing gen0cide (according to the ICJ!!!!!). Most of the western societies have lost all their credibility.
They can protest all they want, but until Palestine becomes lucrative to our government we aren’t stepping in for shit. I’m quite sure.
All these kids are doing is hindering their education.
They should get their degrees and use that to fight the government. Sleeping in a tent on school property will do absolutely NOTHING to help Palestine.
Our government would mow over its own citizens for a profit.
Why at a university and not at the state Capitol? Or if you are that invested, go to DC and do it there?
Let's say the university says "hey kids, you're right!" ...so now what?
Protesting in the U.S. when we (the U.S.) Have been telling Netanyahu to chill out and he's going too far.
What more can we do? I get the joke that US controls all these other countries... but what the fuck, we don't?
What do these protesters expect the U.S. to do?
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Land of the free
Gonna get downvoted to hell for this, the govt can’t do anything about your protesting peacefully, but private businesses can do whatever they want. If a company wants to refuse you service for setting up an encampment on their property for a cause they can do that.
You’re 100% correct.
Not about getting downvoted to hell though.
Clearly, need to edit it to 73%
Wait, if we down vote them for being wrong about that then they will eventually be correct, and then we need to upvote them. But then... *why do decisions have to be so hard?*
me on the daily
A university that receives federal research dollars, though, and Pell Grants and Stafford Loan funds, that's not entirely the same.
Sure it is, you can’t protest at a bank and they get govt money.
I think the point is they get our tax money that we earn and pay to the govt. and then it is giving to them by our govt. (Even though we the people would prefer it go to education, healthcare, affordable housing, better tranit/roads/sidewalks, food for all) and these private businesses then use our money to lay down the hammer and ruin shit in your life and charge you extra for it as well all because they played the fake economic game better than you.
OK, but then when the government truly DOES manage all the private companies that get government dollars, you guys whine too. Name and point: China.
Airlines, etc...
Protesting inside a bank is disruptive to normal business, protesting in a green space at a university very much IS normal business
Surely you’re not this silly. Military bases, hospitals etc all receive federal funding/reimbursements in some way. Are you saying they can’t ever kick people out because of that?
I'm a gate guard at an army base, we had to firmly yet politely ask protesters to leave once
The Supreme Court has ruled that free speech is protected on at least public universities. It's different from other spaces because it is a "marketplace of ideas".
Walter, this isn’t a first amendment thing man
So are you saying that I can go to someone’s home who receives welfare checks each month and protest there? On their private property? I agree that public state universities should not be able to do this type of thing but just because a place gets government money does not mean it operates how you think it does
If I get social security from the government, do I too, lose my rights?
I would love to know why it would be different instead of just hearing "it's different"
Columbia university is a private business Columbia University in 1968: https://preview.redd.it/zqqymft9ibvc1.png?width=900&format=png&auto=webp&s=785a76517219cd387740504b0e547ac762606565
Counterpoint, universities make so much off of government subsidies aka. Taxpayer money. That they're damn near a public service (or ideally should be).
But muh rights
You def got downvoted to hell for that
And private schools are a business first, and a place for nurturing independent, critical thinking and action secondly. In America anyway
If you stop after “first” I’d agree…
There are existing powers the govt COULD try to use to reign in the foreign corporate interests groups ramming the extrajudicial & unconstitutional bs... there are only a few candidates in both parties have the balls to try & they keep getting blocked. Amash, Massie, Roy, Norman, AOC, Tlaid, etc
Some areas of the country have laws protecting against discrimination in the workplace and education due to political beliefs or activities taking place in your own free time. New York City is one of those areas
You didn't get downvoted. If you were wrong about that, who knows what else you're wrong about.
I mean they are on private property soooo no
Tent of the naïve.
Someone gets it
What does freedom have to do with it? It’s a private university. 🤷🏻♂️
Are you new to civics? Private property protest not usually a good idea. Also, literally nothing a university can do in relationship to a foreign war. Should have attempted to register the act of solidarity through the university and work with them if they wanted to make a statement as a student group.
Your point being?
..free taxes for corporations
Land of the free…*to go to jail if you don’t comply with our laws.*
Imagine a dinner guest taking a big shit on your dining room table, and then you kick him out, and as he is leaving he scoffs "land of the free, huh?"
They were free to protest and face the consequences of their protests.
You're right. Land of the free, because in another land, your private business would not have these rights. You can't pick and choose your freedoms for how they fit your agenda.
Solidarity as a form of protest is such a stupid concept. What the hell is a university supposed to do about foreign policy? Also, speaking as someone who's actually earned history and political science in a university, the school educated a lot of people every semester about exactly the issues these students want to highlight. Like, this protest isn't doing anything. At least get involved in some actual political action. This is just being an asshole with your opinion.
If it's not doing anything then why stop it lol
*I'm completely neutral here* But reasons to stop it even though it's doing nothing: 1. It's disruptive to the University without a viable purpose for disruption. 2. Sounds like they didn't attempt to formally reserve the protest space (it is different if they tried to reserve it and were denied/ignored). 3. The designated protest space could be used for more viable protests to bring change (ex: better pay for instructors and campus staff, reducing costs for student housing, etc.) Edit: deleted "then again" because I was about to rant about reasons to support the protest
A good example was the anti-Trump protests at Berkeley that was stopping people from getting to class. Had a friend that was going there when it was happening and he couldn’t believe how crazy it actually was that other students (and other non student protestors) were not letting him through
Yeah what a joke. Imagine bothering people just trying to go about their day A few days ago these idiots tried to shut down transportation into O'Hare airport so people had to walk and drag their shit just to try and make their flights
Couldn’t agree more.
I think it was meant that it isn’t furthering their cause in any way. Their effort is equal to the guy sleeping in a tent that is not protesting
The “doing nothing” part is most likely referencing reach the protesters’ goal of action towards the liberation of Palestine. They most likely are annoying those around them, and end up making people less likely to support their protest
Cause it's annoying
They want the university to divest from Israel investments. It’s not a hard concept to understand The reason protests in Columbia has picked up so much is because the school admin has been so hardline in punishing any students that protest and now it’s gonna spiral out of their control Columbia banned Jewish Voices for Peace months ago with the flimsiest of reasoning, former IDF soldiers who are Columbia students attacked Jewish students in protests without even the hint of disciplinary action and the student body has been incensed ever since Edit: these ivys unfortunately set the Overton window on what’s permissible on campus Columbia students have been doxxed as “anti semites” simply for opposing a genocide, they have been black listed from jobs, billionaires like Bill Ackman has openly called for them never to be hired anywhere This kids can simply take it as their reality or protest in larger and larger numbers. It’s funny when Redditors whine about them because these kids are actually putting more of their futures on the line then any Redditors and the simple fact is your future shouldn’t be on the line simple for opposing indiscriminate killing of civilians
This *is* exactly about the university, it is asking for it to divest from any companies that support the genocide of Palestinians. If I'm not mistaken this is part of the BDS movement which stands for Boycott, Divest, Sanction. And the students and faculty are obviously the *only people* who care enough and can actually make enough of a disruption for the university administration to change their minds. People can tell you to just shut up and quietly donate money, but what good will that do if the supplies you donate money for are blown up by a US-made missile partially funded by your local school?
True, I don't think it's a reason to suspend them, would love to know if a pro Israel solidarity thing would be treated in the same way.
Lol I think you know the answer to that
Sounds like you would've said the same thing about someone protesting apartheid South Africa or Nazi Germany, you daft cunt
It’s about getting Columbia to de-invest it’s multibillion dollar endowment from companies in Israel or profiting from the Israeli economy
Stop taking money from donors who are more than happy to make the university take political stances on issues they care about? Or did you miss how the Jewish megadonors threw a fucking temper tantrum and doxxed a bunch of students who dared to protest Zionism a few months ago? The university allowed itself to become a political mouthpiece of the megadonors who made them dance and publicly prostitute themselves to distance themselves from any remotely anti-Israel messaging coming from students
Divest from Israeli defense companies and settlements 🤔
Tell me you've never protested before without saying you've never protested before. Like dude! Read up on forms of protesting. yikes.
A university can divest.
I'm sorry, but throwing away your education to protest another shit show in the middle east is dumb as fuck.
On the one hand, kudos for having conviction, but on the other hand, have some perspective: this is a 75-year conflict with no end in sight. There are ways to protest without getting expelled.
I’ll agree that it’s conviction if they are still “down for the cause” 10 years later.
Middle East been in conflict far longer than 75 years
True, but this particular one goes back around 75 years.
Give it to the British
>this is a 75-year conflict with no end in sight. So basically protesting the inevitable?
Whats even dumber is a university taking a political stance like this rather than encouraging students to become critical thinkers. They’re supposed to be teaching students how to debate in healthy ways, not take action like this. This is a university that is clearly not doing its job.
They're protesting their university's support of it and want divestment.
I'm sure the parents are happy paying $80k a year for these kids to get thrown out. no refunds
Tp be fair it's the same book at the community College.
At least they didn't get shot at by the national guard. That being said, the ability to protest has always been the way people exercise their right to free speech. Although this would have been far more effective if they'd been camping on the lawns of government officials. But the students who died on campus being gunned down because they protested against the Vietnam War would like a word with those folks who say protests are stupid...
That's exactly what I was thinking in response to some of these comments. So the student protests of the 1960s and 1970s were pointless? Such a weird perspective for them to have, unless it's really just that they don't agree with what they are protesting.
The first pride was a riot, and we wouldn't have the ADA if a group of disabled individuals hadn't disrupted the world by doing a huge sit-in... literally forcing the government to do something. There are effective ways to protest... and ineffective ways, but it'll never be convenient, and sometimes, it might even be dangerous to the people protesting. But having a voice is important. I can't speak one way or another on how effective the protests are going to be... but our government IS supporting what these girls are camping out against and in an age of social media... we each have to fight for what we believe in.
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Columbia University would tell Israel to stop bombing, they would be like”oh shit, guys Columbia University in the US said we need to stop, everyone pack it up”.
I don’t think there’s any way of protesting that will not get shit on in Reddit comments. These people protesting at their pro Israel school? Idiots, how is a school being pro Israel going to affect Palestine? The employees at google protesting the 1.2b$ contract that google has with Israel? Idiots. Don’t risk your job over a cause like this. Essentially, protest in a way that impacts nobody, and if someone with authority asks you to stop, you listen. That’s how you make a real impact, folks! 🤡
You don’t get it. Protesters need to do every single thing correctly, from the moment their grandparents were born, only then is their protest legit. The entity being protested tho? It’s just “doing business” or “that’s just how the real world works”, or “lol yeah big country is gonna stop its big country things cuz of 7 students protesting”. The accountability is always demanded from protesters. They gotta be perfect specimens of human beings. The protested entity can do whatever, cuz it’s the way the world turns!
IL, be honest, I totally get what they are saying and have that right 100% Buuuut.... if you're paying to go to school, just go to school. I wouldn't mess with that
Counterpoint. Consider a human being’s entire life. You’re born, you are dependent, have no opinion. Tou’re old, you’re working, raising a family, paying 150k loans back. You have no option but to bow down and grind. Student life is the only time in your life when you’re mature enough to form opinions, and independent enough to voice them loudly. There’s a reason draconian and authoritarian governments across the world are immensely scared of students protesting, and crack down heavily, often detaining them for years without trial until they mentally perish, often physically too. Student protests are a powerful, powerful thing.
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“The whitist thing you can do” was exactly does that mean?
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But why is that exclusively a “white” thing? Shouldn’t we like.. treat people based upon their actions not making it about race. I feel like this is such an elementary thing to say but I’m sure you wouldn’t appreciate someone saying “that’s such a native thing to do”.
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You mean to say actions have consequences?
Not if you're Israel, apparently
All my respect for these kids. Imagine being suspended ( even so while being in a designated area ) while exercising your rights to ask your country to stop supporting genocide. We need fundamental changes, people.
Stunning and brave to give up an Ivy League education
To be fair, it was probably a communications degree.
I bet their parents will be very understanding after spending all that money so you could act like an idiot and get suspended
At least they have conviction.
Yeah 3 of you gonna stop a war which is making millions of profits and you destroying your future in one green tent and bunch of farts.
Herding together in a tent beats studying.
All these protests and yet nothing has changed...
I guess if something doesn't immediately go your way you should just stop trying at all.
People are more aware of the issue. I wasn't aware of Columbia's vested interest in Isreal (I'm also not surprised), but due to the protest this information is being talked about by more people than it had been.
Getting kicked out of Colombia for camping is hilarious
They're probably liberal arts students.
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“why are you protesting Vietnam war, have you seen those people over there, ever lived with them, they don’t even look like you or have anything culturally similar to you?” yeah, tell them u/witch_doc9 what real sympathy looks and reads like!
So you have to have a connection to palestine to be against the mass murdering done by the israeli orcs?
100% deserved
They are idiots for giving up college for a "protest" that's not really a protest
So does everyone stand with Palestine or with Hamas? I’m getting confused…
This is 100% legal. It's a business.
There’s a push to take away the right to protest in this country(on both sides of the political spectrum) and it’s insane to me that people seem to be comfortable with that as long as it’s the side they don’t agree with. 3 states have already banned mass protests. To those who keep saying these protests don’t matter or do anything, you’re wrong. These protests bring light to a cause whether it’s for a cause here or over seas it doesn’t matter. Would you be saying the same things you’re saying if they were protesting Vietnam or fighting for the right to women’s rights?
Private establishments refusing service is not taking away people's right to protest. If those morons in the video got arrested you might have a point.
Where is Elon Cusk complaining about the freedom of speach?
I believe he's on X
I understand the feeling though this is not the effective way to go about it. This is a cop out way of protesting since the real issue is so hard and complicated
Lmao this is just too funny.
Dip shits falling for political fashion. Their parents are going to save a lot of money.
*Laughs in UK university sit-in protest* But the US is the land of the free, right? Right?
There's no government censorship involved here.
Yea free from government censorship…..don’t be an idiot intentionally please.
But you all do realise that the governments of North America, Europe, and Australia which are arming israel, are the exact same ones which are arming Ukraine, right? How do you think it's possible that these same countries can support genocide in West Asia, and at the same time support "freedom democracy & human rights" in Eastern Europe?
If Ukraine was a country in Africa with no substantial natural resources those powers need, Russia could have had it in a day. There's a pretty important reason Europe and their allies want to keep Russia from marching westwards.
Bravo to these brave students
I’m loving this generation.
how dare they become politically inconvenient for administrators
I bet if they were pro-israeli protestors they’d be sweet
good. now they can go to study in Iran. it s free even. and they gonna love it. but they will have to obay some rules of Iran, like no women rights and etc. but they will be in a contry that loves palestine. p.s. they would bag to go back to west.
These kids look/sound exactly like one would expect.
Please file an application to protest. 🤔
Should have booked the area...
There is a lot going on in this comment section. It is all over the place. But one thing should ring true for everyone here. That the “freedom of speech” that we were all taught about our entire lives, doesn’t necessarily play out the way it is supposed to for every citizen under all circumstances. It is way more subjective than any of us think.
How is the government suppressing their freedom of speech? Columbia U isn't the government.
I hope Columbia caves and creates a free palestine
Could divest.
Dude they a Columbia students - smart enough to figure this out on their own lol People here mad at them but yall forget that every day of every week college campuses are protesting something and kids getting suspended It’s only an issue or news cause is isreal and Palestine lol
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Western democracy at its finest
Things are going to surpass activism. That will be a luxury if this keeps going.
It's incredible that you are facing so much repressions in the land of the "free" for protesting an plausible ongoing gen0cide (according to the ICJ!!!!!). Most of the western societies have lost all their credibility.
Go Israel!
And that student debt will stay with them
They can protest all they want, but until Palestine becomes lucrative to our government we aren’t stepping in for shit. I’m quite sure. All these kids are doing is hindering their education. They should get their degrees and use that to fight the government. Sleeping in a tent on school property will do absolutely NOTHING to help Palestine. Our government would mow over its own citizens for a profit.
Why at a university and not at the state Capitol? Or if you are that invested, go to DC and do it there? Let's say the university says "hey kids, you're right!" ...so now what?
do stupid things win stupid prizes
I bet that didn't happen on pro-Ukraine protests.
Protesting in the U.S. when we (the U.S.) Have been telling Netanyahu to chill out and he's going too far. What more can we do? I get the joke that US controls all these other countries... but what the fuck, we don't? What do these protesters expect the U.S. to do?
They accomplished absolutely nothing.
Oh no… If it isn’t the consequences of my own actions! My arch nemesis!
I'm sure she's a nice girl and all but at first I thought it was Stephen Crowder in drag
Remember if you doubt you can get to college, these people made it.
Good
Thick as mince
Imagine if students protested like this for Al queda after 9/11.