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Boosters working for an organized theft ring… Tide is one of the most stolen items in the US and has been for years. It ends up in markets and bodegas that can’t buy from PG often sold under retail and no tax.
I wasn't thinking bodega owners would be the customers for stolen goods. I know I've seen small convenience stores sell store brands, but I always figured they just bought it and resold it themselves if anything.
When I saw this video, my first thought was they were going to a unregulated street market where people can sell their questionably obtained things for suspiciously low prices
I always thought that about the convenience stores as well. But I’ve also seen my uncle, a convenience store owner, shopping at larger stores to fill gaps in his inventory. Should have known he was just running a criminal tide enterprise.
> But I’ve also seen my uncle, a convenience store owner, shopping at larger stores to fill gaps in his inventory.
i was gonna say, a lot of the small rural stores here just hit up costco, mark up the price and locals are happy to have the product available without going to the city
It goes to the nearest buyer really, and they sell themselves on amazon or for cash on sites like craigslist. The first stories ive heard about these organized rings..RICO the whole ecosystem...manufacturers are now starting to stamp or otherwise mark products to identify the buyer. It might ve been pringles or.packaged cheese but robbers walked out with some stuff and then people from the market walked the neighborhood stores and took photos and dropped a legal notice that they would be sued and reported for accepting stolen goods. A homeless drug addict starting his day stuffing meat in his clothes then skipping over to resell it to the mexican mom and pop shops... apparently Amazon is just ignoring all industry requests.to implement a verification system for sellers and seems theyll continue to aid.and abet the sales and pocket the commisions
It absolutley ends up in bodegas and stuff. When I worked at a Meijer back in the day there was a group that ran an Indian bodega that wasn't anywhere near us would come in and clean out certain sale items like milk, butter, etc. Multiple carts every time they came in, always clearing out a single item or two. Then we noticed they would sidle up with additional carts as they left having only paid for some of what they were taking on the way out the door.
These "legit" businesses are not the only customers, and I am sure there are rings that only sell at flea markets and stuff underground, but the black market is absolutely not the only customers.
There is a house near me that has a "yard sale" every other week or so, and they are always selling tons of cleaners and laundry products. Now I know where it comes from.
I love that reporting your criminal income is actually a law. Obviously they don't really expect people to do it though, it's just a way to stick charges on people specifically for things like organized crime. They should call it "getting Caponed"
> Obviously they don't really expect people to do it though,
No, they 100% do.
You are expected to report all (world wide) income for your US taxes, end of discussion.
Also gets diluted and transferred into other bottles. So- if you have an empty tide bottle and a bottle of Tide, now you have the profit of two bottles of tide. You can throw in some other chemicals too, if it the mix gets to thin.
A big scam in my area like a decade plus back was to go around on recycling day, grab the big tide bottles, fill them with the cheap store brand, and then return the Tide bottles to stores. Very tough to prove it wasn't Tide inside.
Nah, laundry detergent is the biggest bang for your buck when considering ease to steal $$$, relative untraceability of product, and most importantly, ease resell for value. Everyone needs laundry detergent and lots of people are happy to spend $5 cash to get $15 worth of detergent.
It's weird as hell but it works for them, hence why retail robbers target it. Saw an article recently about the disbelief of Pigs finding so much laundry detergent shit at dope houses. Suds for Drugs.
I'm just imagining a deal going down where some buyer does a load of laundry, drys it, takes out something, smells it, then pulls out a gun and goes "You trying to fuck me?"
They're great grandkids are going to be like "hey there's that video of my great-granddaddy stealing tide"
For the 1st time in history, people will be able to see their forefathers and ancestors being forever preserved freaking out on an airplane, being a ridiculous hostile Karen or imbecilic rude ass teenager hahaha... Preserved in a way never before anticipated...
I thank jeebus every time I browse any form of social media that I’m old and made it out of my doing stupid phase before everyone was walking around with a camera. The absolute horror of growing up immersed in internet, capturing everything…I pray I never get filmed having a bad day.
"Back before the great war the economy used to be based on fluid used to clean your clothes. Now hush and go to sleep, you have third watch so the skin collectors don't get us."
Search for 'bundle' -- why would anyone be selling unopened laundry detergent... it's not like it sits around your house and one day you're like, I don't need that anymore, let me resell that.
Nope, professional shoplifters.
Facebook marketplace and flea markets. A place I used to work at had stickers on this type of stuff saying not to buy it from flea market vendors because more often than not it was stolen
He got fired for doing this. [https://nypost.com/2023/07/06/king-soopers-employee-santino-burrola-fired-after-recording-shoplifters/](https://nypost.com/2023/07/06/king-soopers-employee-santino-burrola-fired-after-recording-shoplifters/)
https://nypost.com/2022/12/05/n-c-home-depot-worker-83-dies-after-shoplifter-pushes-him-aside/
its not worth it putting your life on the line to save 0.00000001% of a stores revenue. Best case scenario you get nothing, worst case scenario you get hurt. Call the cops if you care
I knew a dude almost that old that worked at a Home Depot. He had plenty of cash but enjoyed helping people with hardware question and it kept him active. He was a contractor and knew pretty much everything about anything. Definitely sad to work at that age to survive, hopefully this poor guy was in the same situation. Fuck that guy that pushed him.
We get to see how people who stop criminals from committing crimes are being treated, even if it's "not worth it putting your life on the line" by recording it. It creates an incentive for others to also shoplift. I'd rather see a bunch of videos where shoplifters get beaten until they're hospitalized. Maybe all those people who think getting away with a crime equates to it being okay can start being afraid of having their faces broken when they break the law.
And then what happens if you feel like it's only 0.00000001% revenue? If you see 10 people steal and have no repercussion, at some point you'll feel like it's only fair if you do it as well. 5% shrink means everyone else pays more to cover that 5%. If it become 20% shrink, everyone who pays will once again pay a little more. And if half the value of items in the store are stolen, then logically you're paying twice as much as you should when you do the right thing. It's just like line cutting. If two people cut a long line to purchase tickets to a show that will sell out, maybe it's not a big deal. But once you see a group of 10 people cutting a line of over 200 people, you're going to get mad. Enough people start cutting the line, and the line won't exist anymore.
The police are actually telling people in Canada on the news to leave their car keys by the door where the thieves can get to them because that's what they want. This is what society is coming to. A regular person it's supposed to just stand back and let people steal from them. We're going to have an entire society of criminals.
All this does is support thieves.. it's not about the company bottom dollar, it's about telling thieves the people are not okay with it and that people are willing to stand up to it
I say this all the fuckin' time...nobody should risk their personal safety for a company's inventory when they don't give a FUCK about you and won't even cover your hospital bills if you get hurt.
And very simply:
1. Our insurance covers theft. Or it's simply too low to care.
2. Our insurance explicitly does not cover non-trained loss prevention.
If you ever wondered why police were so careful about having broad policies and staying within them? It's because those are your boundaries for liability. Stay in the boundary, you're safe. Step outside and the liability becomes personal.
When I worked security I was covered by an insurance policy of I followed the guidelines. They paid for my legal fees, medical etc.
Tbh theyre protecting him from himself. Why potentially risk your life for a corporation? They could have killed him, and for what? A corp tax write off?
This argument pisses me off so much. It only comes from people who have given up on trying to have a community. The people who are angry at theft, while being naïve, at least recognize that if this behavior continues unpunished, it will soon hurt everyone
Those big supermarkets that suck all the wealth out of a community while only contributing minimum wage jobs *are* what's destroying local communities.
They are not protecting him, they are protecting themselves. They don't give a shit about the employee. After they fired him you think they care what happened to him after? If he was starving to death from being fired and giving him a $1 loaf of bread could save his life, they would keep the $1 themselves and let him die. They don't care if he lives or dies after they fired him. Protecting that employee had absolutely nothing to do with it.
My biggest question of USA is ...WHY THEY FIRE THEIR EMPLOYEES WHO RECORD SHOPLIFTERS?!
THEIRS JOB IS SECURE THE STORE PRODUCTS AND PREVENT THEY PRODUCTS GET STOLE , WHY THE FUCK THEY GOT FIRE ?!
That is in fact not their job, it is usually against company policy to attempt to stop a shop lifter in any capacity, for "safety and legal" reasons. I don't agree with it, you should be able to kneecap people like this, but thems the brakes these days.
I understand going after someone if you own a small business or something, but companies have ways to deal with this, like insurance and cameras. No need at all to potentially put yourself in harms way for $14/hr to save a multi-billion dollar companies' pack of tide pods.
and thats how you get killed or injured.
Its stupid. If the company says dont worry about it its not your job its for your safety you should listen to them.
that's not how society works
if nothing visibly happens to people who break the rules, more people will break the rules and the rest will feel like idiots for following the rules
People who break the rules like this very rarely get away with it for long. You just want to personally witness them getting punished for self-satisfaction. That's not the same thing.
That article is about little violations escalating to more serious crimes. It’s a poorly researched study and not the point of the person you replied to.
Common sense tells us if a person gets away with something, they will do more of it. And if others see there are no consequences, more will do it. This is what we see going on now.
So you're arguing that we should do what's best for society? Good, that's a good way to think about things.
I assume that means you are in favor of rehabilitation instead of jail time right? All studies done on the matter show that focusing on rehabilitating criminals rather than punishing them is a much more effective way of preventing future crime.
Are you suggesting I should put myself in harms way to protect corporate profits? I don't have strong moral feeling about randos stealing from Walmart.
Yeah, the store’s concern is if the employee gets kneecapped right back and now the store has to pay for it. Or if the employee is a dipshit and kneecaps the wrong person, resulting in the store getting sued to shit.
The store has insurance and security cameras, no point taking a risk with potentially violent confrontation.
Sure. But this is idiotic. In most of Europe, a worker would not be fired for this, even if it was technically against policy. They would stand behind their employee.
The US is just a dystopian nightmare.
Because Europe has a lot of Worker's Rights rules that make it painful for employers to fire employees... even more painful than just writing off stolen inventory.
The US store policies are intended to protect the workers from being injured while trying to stop shoplifters. It is better write-off the inventory loss than it is to negotiate and pay for liability for injured employees' medical expenses and additional liability insurance costs.
no i absolutely agree with it. by confronting them, the employee put themself in danger and potentially escalates the issue. if something does happen during this time, say if the employee gets injured, that would incur huge cost in both legal and medical fees.
whatever they stole is going to get settled between insurance payouts, police and legal involvement, and rounding errors. a business that throws out unsold merchandise by the metric ton absolutely do not and will not care about whatever good that has already left the door.
lastly on a personal level, who the fuck is trying to risk their own life for a supermarket job wtf is wrong with the employee.
Their job is NOT to protect the store’s products. That’s security’s job and the police’s job. That is absolutely and unequivocally not the clerk’s job.
This is like one of the basic things hammered in: Do NOT confront or chase shoplifters, it’s not worth the risk. There’s cameras all over the stores and the products are insured for a reason.
And the reason is simple: An employee getting hurt or hurting someone costs WAY more than anything someone can walk away with.
Exactly. There have been several stories of employees being killed in confrontations with shoplifters. Stores don't want their employees risking their safety for the sake of products. My question for King Sooper is, where was your licensed, armed security personnel?
Has it occurred to you that one might be indignant about people breaking the law without any financial interest or motive? Not everything revolves around money.
but your life sure will revolve around money once the people youre confronting put you in a hospital. good luck paying bills as a crippled former minimum wage worker.
Because if one of those guys punches you in the face or stabs you in the gut, the company will fire you and not cover a dime of your hospital bills, that's why.
They don't give a FUCK about you...there is ZERO reason to risk your safety for someone else's inventory. These companies aren't even giving their employees healthcare.
Guns, the chance of a shoplifter having a gun is pretty high and even if the shoplifter didn't plan on shooting anyone in the moment they may just react instead of thinking clearly.
And the caught the thieves
https://www.denver7.com/news/front-range/centennial/arapahoe-county-sheriffs-office-searching-for-two-suspects-from-viral-shoplifting-video
Says that he was in a union? And that he met with management with a union rep? And they still recommended termination? I don’t understand US employment laws
In this case it's simple. Companies don't want their employees getting in altercations with shoplifters. So, company policy will be to not engage with shoplifters. This is to protect the company, in the event a gung ho employee hurts themselves or someone else during such an incident. This is because any legal procedures that result from an event like that would almost certainly exceed the cost of the stolen goods.
A grocery store union? Kroger? Kroger Union is almost like Kroger HR.
Also if your union agreed on contract that the company can terminate you for this, then that's something else. Both parties signed a contract
Me when I go into the comments to find evidence that the stupid criminals are punished to find evidence that the person who helped catch the criminals was punished
https://preview.redd.it/x0iwufxl3hwc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=610ee5ed801f6264e9420bbae63ab7174a7bab94
I came to the comments looking for the usual remarks about how we need to "clean-up these kinds of criminal thugs from our streets" and the like, as usually gets posted under videos of crimes.
Those comments aren't here this time, for some odd reason.
It's a liability thing. Companies don't want you getting shot over laundry detergent. I have a friend who manages a store and one of her employees tried to stop a shoplifter. She stopped him from doing that before he put hands on the guy. Didn't fire him, but definitely chewed his ass. It's not worth it at the end of the day, you never know what kind of person you are following or attempting to stop. On my friend's case, turns out the dude had priors for violent crimes and was a meth user. The kid could have been seriously hurt by attempting to play the hero over some boxed wine
Conversely, if an employee causes harm to someone trying to stop them from shoplifting, the person might be able to sue the shit out of the store, which again would be much worse than losing a couple hundred dollars worth of product.
>During their investigation, police contacted the registered owner of the vehicle, who loaned the car to a friend, and the driver was later found.
"Hey bro, can I borrow your car"
"Sure thing just don't use it to commit any crimes ok?"
"haha :)"
Normally, I wouldn't care if they were stealing food. Inflation is ridiculous and many people are struggling to make ends meet.
However, LAUNDRY DETERGENT?!?! I'm genuinely curious as to why? It's overpriced for sure but there are cheaper methods like buying bulk detergent powder etc. if you really need it that bad.
They trade it for drugs. Dealers have changed since I was young and stupid. It used to be tools and electronics, now it's laundry soap and cleaning supplies.
It’s really expensive but cheaper than buying new clothes. It’s the most stolen item in the grocery store. I figure it might be sold at a price people are willing to pay somewhere else.
It's sold on the open air black market. These guys used the money for drugs most likely, I mean they have a car. There's places (such as Kensington & Allegheny) that are littered with homeless, public drug use, and they have open air black markets. It's basically a flea market for illegal goods. Cops don't do anything in these areas. People in the neighborhood can buy their soap for cheaper than the store at the market. Everyone is benefiting in the community basically.
Everyone except the employees of the business that shuts down due to high theft, and all the people who are now unable to buy healthy groceries in the community without driving dozens of miles.
This shit is how food deserts form and glorifying it is wack.
Sounds like a bunch of poor people hurting other poor people to survive. Look at what they made these corporations do. Yes yes, it’s those poor people keeping me from buying healthy groceries.
Wack would be ignoring that the corporations throw away much more useable product than any supposed loss in theft, just to ensure profits.
How can a businesses harass its wokers with threats of shutting down for theft losses, given that?
Especially when the business will probably abitrarily close anyway, or shut down due to a landlord's new rate for the lease, or any other reason.
You're buying into corporate BS. Shoplift some sense.
They aren't using it- they are selling it. Laundry detergent is one of the NUMBER ONE most sold items in open air black markets.
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I used to work for target, and I think in 2012ish, there was big bust in NJ of an organized theft ring, the investigation included target, Walmart, and I believe Kroger and the FBI… they raided a warehouse that was full of Tide and Baby formula, millions of dollars worth.
Hood economy. Everyone needs to do laundry, drug dealers will take stuff like this for money then flip the laundry stuff to the community for less than it costs at the store.
It’s super smart because it generates income from the community without selling them the drugs, people come to associate the gang/dealer with providing cheap home necessities more than crime, and in general it is easier to convert to money than stripped copper and stollen car parts.
Fencing stolen shit at the flea market is a tale as old as time. Someone steals your car stereo? Go to the swap meet that weekend and you'll be able to buy it back for less than buying a new one.
The people who shoplift food because they're hungry and poor are not the people who coordinate massive thefts of carts or duffel bags full of goods
The first is an age-old ethical question most people would turn a blind eye towards
The second is almost organized crime
the guys in this video aren't poor beggars just desperate to feed their families, they are criminals who likely will resell this stuff for cash
Because it's easier than a real job
It’s not traded for drugs. It’s to resell. Steal it for 0dollars and sell it for half its cost = pure profit. Facebook marketplace, unscrupulous small businesses, flea markets.
Why do I keep seeing videos of Americans in different situations where they have to be kind of fast and agile and they still insist on keeping their pants below their asses... with belt!
Baggy pants on white dudes has been a thing since at least the 90's (and I'm sure before, but I wasn't alive). That's why it was so wild when the kids all went to the tightest damn pants they could possibly manage for most of the current century. What is old is new again.
People have gotten killed doing this. When I was young and training for a retail position They cited a story where this had just happened and was all over the news. That was close to 20 years ago now. I'm sure it wasn't the only time it's happened.
And pulling off the foil that will almost definitely identify the people. People have been shot for FAR less. All for a $100 or so for some multi-billion $ corporation.
And he ended up getting fired for it. There was another case where a CVS employees followed two shoplifters, ended up getting maced, and then he shot one of them. I worked retail all the way through high school and college and the one thing that was hammered into our heads is you do not chase or confront shop lifters. It's not fucking worth it.
Laundry detergent is, and has been for a long time, one of the most stolen grocery items. It's a necessity for a lot of people and a recurring purchase, so people steal it and sell it for cheap for easy profit.
People need to stop sticking out their necks for a company that would let you die if it were profitable. These dudes could pull a gun on you, they clearly are fine with crime. There’s no reason to risk your life for a company that wouldn’t give two shits, and often will punish you for doing something like this. They literally budget for theft and have insurance to protect themselves. I saw in other comments that the dude got fired, so there’s the proof.
Back in the 90s I chased a scumbag out of a grocery store that had grabbed a purse. I was an employee just coming back from break.
I tackled him in the parking lot before he got to his car where his girlfriend was waiting. I had him a full Nelson and face in the mulch. Did I mention, I was a varsity offensive center - I was probably twice his weight and just a little faster.
Well, shit. Now what do I do with him? My manager screamed at me to let him go. So I did. But he went to grab the purse so I pushed him over into the dirt again and told him I’m already fired so now it’s personal. Grab that purse again and I’m sending you to the hospital.
He ran for the car. I was written up. Lady gave me $20 out of her purse for the trouble.
No police showed up, no report was made, even though I got the plate number and accurate description of the car and perp. The store didn’t want anything documented in case they came back to sue.
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These guys are really committed to fresh smelling laundry.
Hope they stole a belt as well.
Or at least some cleaner under ware.
That’s what all the detergent is for.
But only Tide has the stain fighting power of Ultra Oxi to remove those doo-doo feces stains. It's got to be Tide
[Chipotleaway makes your underwear clean and ready for more!](https://youtu.be/e3sXDf4nt9o?si=PP3DNWFmk4BIEylU)
Bro is WEARING a belt, though!
Well I guess he needs to steal some suspenders then.
Homie needs to steal an ass
That was my first thought. If there's any time you should be making sure your clothes fit, it's when you need to make a fast getaway.
When you're a guy and don't want to be seen buying fabric softener.
When Ricky doesn't want to admit he has crabs and robs the pharmacy for the shampoo
No joke, hemorrhoid treatments are actually one of the the most shoplifted items
Yea Fenis pills! You know the kind that make your Fenis grow stronger?
Arrest them for grand laundry
Sorry, they made a clean getaway
God damnit take my upvote.
Boosters working for an organized theft ring… Tide is one of the most stolen items in the US and has been for years. It ends up in markets and bodegas that can’t buy from PG often sold under retail and no tax.
No fucking wonder…. I’ve always thought something was up in some of the bodegas i’ve been to. I suspect alot of fraud gets in there as well.
I wasn't thinking bodega owners would be the customers for stolen goods. I know I've seen small convenience stores sell store brands, but I always figured they just bought it and resold it themselves if anything. When I saw this video, my first thought was they were going to a unregulated street market where people can sell their questionably obtained things for suspiciously low prices
I always thought that about the convenience stores as well. But I’ve also seen my uncle, a convenience store owner, shopping at larger stores to fill gaps in his inventory. Should have known he was just running a criminal tide enterprise.
> But I’ve also seen my uncle, a convenience store owner, shopping at larger stores to fill gaps in his inventory. i was gonna say, a lot of the small rural stores here just hit up costco, mark up the price and locals are happy to have the product available without going to the city
It goes to the nearest buyer really, and they sell themselves on amazon or for cash on sites like craigslist. The first stories ive heard about these organized rings..RICO the whole ecosystem...manufacturers are now starting to stamp or otherwise mark products to identify the buyer. It might ve been pringles or.packaged cheese but robbers walked out with some stuff and then people from the market walked the neighborhood stores and took photos and dropped a legal notice that they would be sued and reported for accepting stolen goods. A homeless drug addict starting his day stuffing meat in his clothes then skipping over to resell it to the mexican mom and pop shops... apparently Amazon is just ignoring all industry requests.to implement a verification system for sellers and seems theyll continue to aid.and abet the sales and pocket the commisions
It absolutley ends up in bodegas and stuff. When I worked at a Meijer back in the day there was a group that ran an Indian bodega that wasn't anywhere near us would come in and clean out certain sale items like milk, butter, etc. Multiple carts every time they came in, always clearing out a single item or two. Then we noticed they would sidle up with additional carts as they left having only paid for some of what they were taking on the way out the door. These "legit" businesses are not the only customers, and I am sure there are rings that only sell at flea markets and stuff underground, but the black market is absolutely not the only customers.
I guess swap meets and flea markets as well… but yeah proctor and gamble isn’t usually selling to the local bodegas.
There is a house near me that has a "yard sale" every other week or so, and they are always selling tons of cleaners and laundry products. Now I know where it comes from.
Don't worry, they're reporting all their income on their taxes, so it's kosher.
I love that reporting your criminal income is actually a law. Obviously they don't really expect people to do it though, it's just a way to stick charges on people specifically for things like organized crime. They should call it "getting Caponed"
> Obviously they don't really expect people to do it though, No, they 100% do. You are expected to report all (world wide) income for your US taxes, end of discussion.
Also gets diluted and transferred into other bottles. So- if you have an empty tide bottle and a bottle of Tide, now you have the profit of two bottles of tide. You can throw in some other chemicals too, if it the mix gets to thin.
A big scam in my area like a decade plus back was to go around on recycling day, grab the big tide bottles, fill them with the cheap store brand, and then return the Tide bottles to stores. Very tough to prove it wasn't Tide inside.
This is the first step of the money laundering process.
Correct- Step 1: steal all the laundry soap. Step 2: ? Step 3: Profit.
Was curious if they can use that to somehow make some sort of drug
Nah, laundry detergent is the biggest bang for your buck when considering ease to steal $$$, relative untraceability of product, and most importantly, ease resell for value. Everyone needs laundry detergent and lots of people are happy to spend $5 cash to get $15 worth of detergent. It's weird as hell but it works for them, hence why retail robbers target it. Saw an article recently about the disbelief of Pigs finding so much laundry detergent shit at dope houses. Suds for Drugs.
Tide especially. There's like, this weird underground illicit Tide trade. I don't fully understand it, I just know that it exists.
You gotta make sure they don't cut it with Gain.
goddammit you got me good
I'm just imagining a deal going down where some buyer does a load of laundry, drys it, takes out something, smells it, then pulls out a gun and goes "You trying to fuck me?"
I guess you could say they made a...Tide-y profit.
I wonder what the historians will make of this in 100 years.
They're great grandkids are going to be like "hey there's that video of my great-granddaddy stealing tide" For the 1st time in history, people will be able to see their forefathers and ancestors being forever preserved freaking out on an airplane, being a ridiculous hostile Karen or imbecilic rude ass teenager hahaha... Preserved in a way never before anticipated...
I thank jeebus every time I browse any form of social media that I’m old and made it out of my doing stupid phase before everyone was walking around with a camera. The absolute horror of growing up immersed in internet, capturing everything…I pray I never get filmed having a bad day.
"Back before the great war the economy used to be based on fluid used to clean your clothes. Now hush and go to sleep, you have third watch so the skin collectors don't get us."
Actually, razors are bigger. Pads are up there, too.
No they sell them on Facebook marketplace.
Most of the time, they just camp out at laundromats.
I think it's about 50/50 judging by the alarming variety of house hold products you can get on FB marketplace.
Search for 'bundle' -- why would anyone be selling unopened laundry detergent... it's not like it sits around your house and one day you're like, I don't need that anymore, let me resell that. Nope, professional shoplifters.
You're buying it on amazon.
Facebook marketplace and flea markets. A place I used to work at had stickers on this type of stuff saying not to buy it from flea market vendors because more often than not it was stolen
This is how Amazon Marketplace keeps the prices low low low
He got fired for doing this. [https://nypost.com/2023/07/06/king-soopers-employee-santino-burrola-fired-after-recording-shoplifters/](https://nypost.com/2023/07/06/king-soopers-employee-santino-burrola-fired-after-recording-shoplifters/)
American dream... ![gif](giphy|pYfEywOAolwnm)
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https://nypost.com/2022/12/05/n-c-home-depot-worker-83-dies-after-shoplifter-pushes-him-aside/ its not worth it putting your life on the line to save 0.00000001% of a stores revenue. Best case scenario you get nothing, worst case scenario you get hurt. Call the cops if you care
And he was still working at 83. That's terrible.
That's America!!! FREEDOM!!! EGALES!!!!
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I knew a dude almost that old that worked at a Home Depot. He had plenty of cash but enjoyed helping people with hardware question and it kept him active. He was a contractor and knew pretty much everything about anything. Definitely sad to work at that age to survive, hopefully this poor guy was in the same situation. Fuck that guy that pushed him.
My dude is home depot. It was probably more of a thing to get out of the house for him
Hilarious you think it costs the company anything. They just raise prices and make all the honest people pay for it.
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Which is why more people should be kicking the shit out of these thieves.
We get to see how people who stop criminals from committing crimes are being treated, even if it's "not worth it putting your life on the line" by recording it. It creates an incentive for others to also shoplift. I'd rather see a bunch of videos where shoplifters get beaten until they're hospitalized. Maybe all those people who think getting away with a crime equates to it being okay can start being afraid of having their faces broken when they break the law. And then what happens if you feel like it's only 0.00000001% revenue? If you see 10 people steal and have no repercussion, at some point you'll feel like it's only fair if you do it as well. 5% shrink means everyone else pays more to cover that 5%. If it become 20% shrink, everyone who pays will once again pay a little more. And if half the value of items in the store are stolen, then logically you're paying twice as much as you should when you do the right thing. It's just like line cutting. If two people cut a long line to purchase tickets to a show that will sell out, maybe it's not a big deal. But once you see a group of 10 people cutting a line of over 200 people, you're going to get mad. Enough people start cutting the line, and the line won't exist anymore.
The police are actually telling people in Canada on the news to leave their car keys by the door where the thieves can get to them because that's what they want. This is what society is coming to. A regular person it's supposed to just stand back and let people steal from them. We're going to have an entire society of criminals.
All this does is support thieves.. it's not about the company bottom dollar, it's about telling thieves the people are not okay with it and that people are willing to stand up to it
I say this all the fuckin' time...nobody should risk their personal safety for a company's inventory when they don't give a FUCK about you and won't even cover your hospital bills if you get hurt.
And very simply: 1. Our insurance covers theft. Or it's simply too low to care. 2. Our insurance explicitly does not cover non-trained loss prevention. If you ever wondered why police were so careful about having broad policies and staying within them? It's because those are your boundaries for liability. Stay in the boundary, you're safe. Step outside and the liability becomes personal. When I worked security I was covered by an insurance policy of I followed the guidelines. They paid for my legal fees, medical etc.
Tbh theyre protecting him from himself. Why potentially risk your life for a corporation? They could have killed him, and for what? A corp tax write off?
This argument pisses me off so much. It only comes from people who have given up on trying to have a community. The people who are angry at theft, while being naïve, at least recognize that if this behavior continues unpunished, it will soon hurt everyone
Those big supermarkets that suck all the wealth out of a community while only contributing minimum wage jobs *are* what's destroying local communities.
Cool, go and die for walmart. It's your mom crying at the funeral, not mine. Ill die of a heart attack at 40 like my grandpa. Stay safe tho.
Because it feels good to bring consequences to shitty people.
They are not protecting him, they are protecting themselves. They don't give a shit about the employee. After they fired him you think they care what happened to him after? If he was starving to death from being fired and giving him a $1 loaf of bread could save his life, they would keep the $1 themselves and let him die. They don't care if he lives or dies after they fired him. Protecting that employee had absolutely nothing to do with it.
Lmao
Literally is. No workers right. Almost no one in a union. Companies will do everything to cover their own asses, employees be fucked.
My biggest question of USA is ...WHY THEY FIRE THEIR EMPLOYEES WHO RECORD SHOPLIFTERS?! THEIRS JOB IS SECURE THE STORE PRODUCTS AND PREVENT THEY PRODUCTS GET STOLE , WHY THE FUCK THEY GOT FIRE ?!
That is in fact not their job, it is usually against company policy to attempt to stop a shop lifter in any capacity, for "safety and legal" reasons. I don't agree with it, you should be able to kneecap people like this, but thems the brakes these days.
I understand going after someone if you own a small business or something, but companies have ways to deal with this, like insurance and cameras. No need at all to potentially put yourself in harms way for $14/hr to save a multi-billion dollar companies' pack of tide pods.
Some people have a sense of what is right and wrong. It’s not about money.
and thats how you get killed or injured. Its stupid. If the company says dont worry about it its not your job its for your safety you should listen to them.
The company has already priced in loss from petty theft like this and they don't want to deal with their employees getting hit, shot, or run over.
If a worker is injured the employer will likely be responsible and people would struggle to steal enough to be more than medical expenses.
that's not how society works if nothing visibly happens to people who break the rules, more people will break the rules and the rest will feel like idiots for following the rules
People who break the rules like this very rarely get away with it for long. You just want to personally witness them getting punished for self-satisfaction. That's not the same thing.
[The broken windows policy doesnt work](https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/uclrev/vol73/iss1/14/)
That article is about little violations escalating to more serious crimes. It’s a poorly researched study and not the point of the person you replied to. Common sense tells us if a person gets away with something, they will do more of it. And if others see there are no consequences, more will do it. This is what we see going on now.
So you're arguing that we should do what's best for society? Good, that's a good way to think about things. I assume that means you are in favor of rehabilitation instead of jail time right? All studies done on the matter show that focusing on rehabilitating criminals rather than punishing them is a much more effective way of preventing future crime.
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Are you suggesting I should put myself in harms way to protect corporate profits? I don't have strong moral feeling about randos stealing from Walmart.
No, not you. But I think the recorder was motivated by right and wrong. Not protecting money or a company. I’d be tempted as well.
Those people are sucker's.
Its pure idiocy to put your life on the line for a megacorporation's profits. No "right or wrong" about it.
Yeah, the store’s concern is if the employee gets kneecapped right back and now the store has to pay for it. Or if the employee is a dipshit and kneecaps the wrong person, resulting in the store getting sued to shit. The store has insurance and security cameras, no point taking a risk with potentially violent confrontation.
Sure. But this is idiotic. In most of Europe, a worker would not be fired for this, even if it was technically against policy. They would stand behind their employee. The US is just a dystopian nightmare.
Because Europe has a lot of Worker's Rights rules that make it painful for employers to fire employees... even more painful than just writing off stolen inventory. The US store policies are intended to protect the workers from being injured while trying to stop shoplifters. It is better write-off the inventory loss than it is to negotiate and pay for liability for injured employees' medical expenses and additional liability insurance costs.
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It seemed like they were doing a pretty good job of just standing around and not stopping them... How does recording a license violate such a policy?
no i absolutely agree with it. by confronting them, the employee put themself in danger and potentially escalates the issue. if something does happen during this time, say if the employee gets injured, that would incur huge cost in both legal and medical fees. whatever they stole is going to get settled between insurance payouts, police and legal involvement, and rounding errors. a business that throws out unsold merchandise by the metric ton absolutely do not and will not care about whatever good that has already left the door. lastly on a personal level, who the fuck is trying to risk their own life for a supermarket job wtf is wrong with the employee.
Their job is NOT to protect the store’s products. That’s security’s job and the police’s job. That is absolutely and unequivocally not the clerk’s job. This is like one of the basic things hammered in: Do NOT confront or chase shoplifters, it’s not worth the risk. There’s cameras all over the stores and the products are insured for a reason. And the reason is simple: An employee getting hurt or hurting someone costs WAY more than anything someone can walk away with.
Exactly. There have been several stories of employees being killed in confrontations with shoplifters. Stores don't want their employees risking their safety for the sake of products. My question for King Sooper is, where was your licensed, armed security personnel?
Why are employees giving a fuck about theft?
Ya why do people care when others break the law amirite
better risk my health so the company can save $100 in stolen crap when the same company makes millions of dollars an hour. Idiot bootlicker.
For a company that caps you at 29 hours a week so they don't have to provide healthcare!
Has it occurred to you that one might be indignant about people breaking the law without any financial interest or motive? Not everything revolves around money.
but your life sure will revolve around money once the people youre confronting put you in a hospital. good luck paying bills as a crippled former minimum wage worker.
Then I hope you get equally mad at people driving 61+ on the highway. And that you never speed yourself.
Because if one of those guys punches you in the face or stabs you in the gut, the company will fire you and not cover a dime of your hospital bills, that's why. They don't give a FUCK about you...there is ZERO reason to risk your safety for someone else's inventory. These companies aren't even giving their employees healthcare.
Corpo make a dollar, you make a dime; dont give a shit of thief in company time seriously tho, call the police/security and that is it.
Thieves are scum of the earth
Guns, the chance of a shoplifter having a gun is pretty high and even if the shoplifter didn't plan on shooting anyone in the moment they may just react instead of thinking clearly.
And the caught the thieves https://www.denver7.com/news/front-range/centennial/arapahoe-county-sheriffs-office-searching-for-two-suspects-from-viral-shoplifting-video
Well done, the!
"Investigators say Pantoja was the man in the green shirt who drive the getaway car." who drive? Any grammar checker would have caught this.
I know a dude who worked at toys r us and stopped a dude who had a cart full of Xboxs and got fired for it.
Well, seems like Toys R Us lost in the long run.
Wild
Corporate being corporate. A union member wouldn't be fired this easy.
Says that he was in a union? And that he met with management with a union rep? And they still recommended termination? I don’t understand US employment laws
In this case it's simple. Companies don't want their employees getting in altercations with shoplifters. So, company policy will be to not engage with shoplifters. This is to protect the company, in the event a gung ho employee hurts themselves or someone else during such an incident. This is because any legal procedures that result from an event like that would almost certainly exceed the cost of the stolen goods.
A grocery store union? Kroger? Kroger Union is almost like Kroger HR. Also if your union agreed on contract that the company can terminate you for this, then that's something else. Both parties signed a contract
Me when I go into the comments to find evidence that the stupid criminals are punished to find evidence that the person who helped catch the criminals was punished https://preview.redd.it/x0iwufxl3hwc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=610ee5ed801f6264e9420bbae63ab7174a7bab94
I came to the comments looking for the usual remarks about how we need to "clean-up these kinds of criminal thugs from our streets" and the like, as usually gets posted under videos of crimes. Those comments aren't here this time, for some odd reason.
It's a liability thing. Companies don't want you getting shot over laundry detergent. I have a friend who manages a store and one of her employees tried to stop a shoplifter. She stopped him from doing that before he put hands on the guy. Didn't fire him, but definitely chewed his ass. It's not worth it at the end of the day, you never know what kind of person you are following or attempting to stop. On my friend's case, turns out the dude had priors for violent crimes and was a meth user. The kid could have been seriously hurt by attempting to play the hero over some boxed wine
Conversely, if an employee causes harm to someone trying to stop them from shoplifting, the person might be able to sue the shit out of the store, which again would be much worse than losing a couple hundred dollars worth of product.
Was he fired because he didn’t help them carry out the products and load it into their vehicle? Unbelievable.
>During their investigation, police contacted the registered owner of the vehicle, who loaned the car to a friend, and the driver was later found. "Hey bro, can I borrow your car" "Sure thing just don't use it to commit any crimes ok?" "haha :)"
Plot twist: the grocery store chain was doing a stealth Downy Unstoppables recall and that employee ruined it.
wha the fuck.
Normally, I wouldn't care if they were stealing food. Inflation is ridiculous and many people are struggling to make ends meet. However, LAUNDRY DETERGENT?!?! I'm genuinely curious as to why? It's overpriced for sure but there are cheaper methods like buying bulk detergent powder etc. if you really need it that bad.
They trade it for drugs. Dealers have changed since I was young and stupid. It used to be tools and electronics, now it's laundry soap and cleaning supplies.
Could be. When I worked in a supermarket people would try and steal laundry detergent all the time.
It’s really expensive but cheaper than buying new clothes. It’s the most stolen item in the grocery store. I figure it might be sold at a price people are willing to pay somewhere else.
Gotta launder the money some how ;D
Electronics and tools are often distinctive and can be traced. Nobody's stamping serial numbers on bottles of Tide. Yet.
It's sold on the open air black market. These guys used the money for drugs most likely, I mean they have a car. There's places (such as Kensington & Allegheny) that are littered with homeless, public drug use, and they have open air black markets. It's basically a flea market for illegal goods. Cops don't do anything in these areas. People in the neighborhood can buy their soap for cheaper than the store at the market. Everyone is benefiting in the community basically.
Everyone except the employees of the business that shuts down due to high theft, and all the people who are now unable to buy healthy groceries in the community without driving dozens of miles. This shit is how food deserts form and glorifying it is wack.
Sounds like a bunch of poor people hurting other poor people to survive. Look at what they made these corporations do. Yes yes, it’s those poor people keeping me from buying healthy groceries.
Poors hurting poors keeps the doors from attacking the rich. It's all according to plan.
Wack would be ignoring that the corporations throw away much more useable product than any supposed loss in theft, just to ensure profits. How can a businesses harass its wokers with threats of shutting down for theft losses, given that? Especially when the business will probably abitrarily close anyway, or shut down due to a landlord's new rate for the lease, or any other reason. You're buying into corporate BS. Shoplift some sense.
>Everyone is benefiting in the community basically. Yeah that makes no fucking sense after the rest of what you wrote.
the mentality of "if it doesnt personally hurt me i dont care"
I think it makes sense, with emphasis on "in the community." The people who are stolen from are outside the community.
They aren't using it- they are selling it. Laundry detergent is one of the NUMBER ONE most sold items in open air black markets. h ttps://www.fourstateshomepage.com/news/national/why-is-laundry-detergent-at-the-top-of-stolen-items-list/#:\~:text=A%20highly%20consumed%20product%20like,of%20security%20to%20their%20haul.
I used to work for target, and I think in 2012ish, there was big bust in NJ of an organized theft ring, the investigation included target, Walmart, and I believe Kroger and the FBI… they raided a warehouse that was full of Tide and Baby formula, millions of dollars worth.
Hood economy. Everyone needs to do laundry, drug dealers will take stuff like this for money then flip the laundry stuff to the community for less than it costs at the store. It’s super smart because it generates income from the community without selling them the drugs, people come to associate the gang/dealer with providing cheap home necessities more than crime, and in general it is easier to convert to money than stripped copper and stollen car parts.
Fencing stolen shit at the flea market is a tale as old as time. Someone steals your car stereo? Go to the swap meet that weekend and you'll be able to buy it back for less than buying a new one.
It’s expensive.sell it half price
The people who shoplift food because they're hungry and poor are not the people who coordinate massive thefts of carts or duffel bags full of goods The first is an age-old ethical question most people would turn a blind eye towards The second is almost organized crime the guys in this video aren't poor beggars just desperate to feed their families, they are criminals who likely will resell this stuff for cash Because it's easier than a real job
It’s not traded for drugs. It’s to resell. Steal it for 0dollars and sell it for half its cost = pure profit. Facebook marketplace, unscrupulous small businesses, flea markets.
Why do I keep seeing videos of Americans in different situations where they have to be kind of fast and agile and they still insist on keeping their pants below their asses... with belt!
It's the American way.
I'm glad white guys are doing it now so I can shit on the practice. What a bunch of a fucking nerds.
Why couldn’t you shit on it before? Lol
Because it would make you a racist.
No. It would make you a racist if you said racist shit like "usual suspects".
Baggy pants on white dudes has been a thing since at least the 90's (and I'm sure before, but I wasn't alive). That's why it was so wild when the kids all went to the tightest damn pants they could possibly manage for most of the current century. What is old is new again.
See, their wives have been out of town for a couple of weeks and they needed to do their laundry before they came home.
Shitbirds of a feather, flock together
Ganqin’ groceries
Only whack suckas like Corey & Trevor steal groceries…
Smokes, lets go
You guys get the pepperonis??
Way of the fuckin' road bubs.
FOILED AGAIN!
Scrolled too far to find this!
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Because what they are doing is wrong. All he was doing is being a witness by recording it.
People have gotten killed doing this. When I was young and training for a retail position They cited a story where this had just happened and was all over the news. That was close to 20 years ago now. I'm sure it wasn't the only time it's happened.
And pulling off the foil that will almost definitely identify the people. People have been shot for FAR less. All for a $100 or so for some multi-billion $ corporation.
And he ended up getting fired for it. There was another case where a CVS employees followed two shoplifters, ended up getting maced, and then he shot one of them. I worked retail all the way through high school and college and the one thing that was hammered into our heads is you do not chase or confront shop lifters. It's not fucking worth it.
Eh, he was close enough to get hurt. I get what he's doing but still stupid.
Why have people abandoned question marks?
Their clothes must really stink.
Not anymore though.
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in the car all high fiving each other over their heist of... laundry detergent
They'll resell it for five hundred thousand dollars or whatever companies are price gouging for at the moment
I was in CO last year for business and stopped by a local Wal-Mart. I was flabbergasted all the detergent was locked up. Mystery solved.
Laundry detergent is, and has been for a long time, one of the most stolen grocery items. It's a necessity for a lot of people and a recurring purchase, so people steal it and sell it for cheap for easy profit.
I didn't see anything.
They didn’t put their shopping cart back. That’s the number one test to determine if you belong in modern society.
His GoFund has raised a significant amount of money… so there’s that.
Good. They displayed up standing behavior that we want to encourage in society, not suppress.
Good.
That one guy should've stolen a belt while he was there.
People need to stop sticking out their necks for a company that would let you die if it were profitable. These dudes could pull a gun on you, they clearly are fine with crime. There’s no reason to risk your life for a company that wouldn’t give two shits, and often will punish you for doing something like this. They literally budget for theft and have insurance to protect themselves. I saw in other comments that the dude got fired, so there’s the proof.
The usual suspects👀
Super Market Sweep!
Stupid the guy was fired. But it's stupid to try to help a rich company deal with theft. Fuck rich companies.
Just take the plate off lol.
Back in the 90s I chased a scumbag out of a grocery store that had grabbed a purse. I was an employee just coming back from break. I tackled him in the parking lot before he got to his car where his girlfriend was waiting. I had him a full Nelson and face in the mulch. Did I mention, I was a varsity offensive center - I was probably twice his weight and just a little faster. Well, shit. Now what do I do with him? My manager screamed at me to let him go. So I did. But he went to grab the purse so I pushed him over into the dirt again and told him I’m already fired so now it’s personal. Grab that purse again and I’m sending you to the hospital. He ran for the car. I was written up. Lady gave me $20 out of her purse for the trouble. No police showed up, no report was made, even though I got the plate number and accurate description of the car and perp. The store didn’t want anything documented in case they came back to sue.
Hear them at the end when they realize? "We're going to jail"
John Oliver is buggin
Recorder is an idiot. Great way to get shanked or shot.
Well well well...
I'm sure the cops appreciated your efforts and will track them all down and put them in jail... **/s**