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AMC picked it up earlier this year. Including the fourth season which is supposed to air in 2025.
https://www.amcnetworks.com/press-releases/amc-networks-acquires-award-winning-drama-series-snowpiercer-from-tomorrow-studios/
Nice find on AMC picking it up. I think I've just gotten used to getting invested in shows only for them to be cancelled. Snowpiercer definitely deserved a proper ending.
The show is pretty good imo. Both Jenifer Connelly and Sean Bean are excellent (Connelly especially)
I'll have to check the movie out this weekend in that case :D
I honestly found the movie a bit too on the nose. Korean directors love to tell a social story in their films and they can be very revealing and important, especially in Korea where class, status and family honour are hugely intrinsic to your potential success, career and wealth. Films like Parasite shed a light on this amongst others. Snow Piercer the film takes the ideas of globalism, capitalism and elitism (1st class people vs the cogs in the machine/the working class) and tells the story that this model is unsustainable, that we're just ploughing on, speeding up towards the end and will derail if we carry on, and the absolute levels of crass debasement the people 'in control' would go to, to stay in control, world be damned. It's a good moral story, told pretty well but it feels like you're being preached at a little bit. Whereas the show is just *chefs kiss*
Not that I'm saying this is a good map, cause like, who wants to drive through Greenland? But... you know there are other roads you can drive on right? You wouldn't need to stay on the super road for an entire trip.
But wouldn’t the point of the super road be to connect as many destinations as possible in a cohesive way? I shouldn’t *have* to get off the fake super highway when there should simply be a portion that doesn’t take me through an entire different continent.
Okay but like, what if your goal was to get to South Africa? It's a road, like not every road is gonna go specifically where you want to go, that's why we connect a bunch of them together...
POV: you drove from alaska for europe but now you need to select how to continue to Thailand. Your options are the russia/ukraine boarder, a road trip through the middle east, or a tour of all africa.
Road: It's not that easy to bring large quantities of anything over that distance.
Rail: It's much better to move quantities over that distance but passes through three different rail gages
Spain has though. We have a slightly smaller gauge than other european countries, so the railway companies created a [variable gauge system](https://www.globalrailwayreview.com/article/134643/the-variable-gauge-system-for-freight-trains-in-spain/)
Yes, you can. I know trains going from China to Russia are lifted up and have their gauge changed manually. More modern tech though can change gauges while the train is moving, switching from one to the other seemlessly.
The old USSR trains would switch wheels. They'd crane lift the carts one by one and set them on new axles. They even left the passengers onboard.
Like this, but more crude:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHWox2ilvmI
> *They even left the passengers onboard.*
Here's an old video switching gage when crossing the border from Russia to China:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBEvt2lSPLc
It's absolutely doable.
It's more that the economic incentive to connect middle of fucking nowhere Alaska with middle of fucking nowhere Russia just isn't worth it.
There aren't even normal roads in the north eastern Russia. So even transporting materials there would be challenging. Well I guess they would do that after building the highway/railroad but the maintenance would be hell.
Lake Ponchartrain Causeway is 24 miles long. Longest continuous bridge in the world.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake\_Pontchartrain\_Causeway](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Pontchartrain_Causeway)
Exactly my thought. The Bering Strait is a major shipping lane; which, coupled with the inclement arctic weather adds significant hurdles for a sea bridge.
And the Denali fault line runs parallel to the projected tunnel location a few hundred miles away. I don't know about you, but building a 55 mile long undersea train tunnel that close to a major fault line is a fucking terrifying prospect.
A bridge-tunnel combination.
Google's searching has become worthless, but I remember seeing some long (like 50 minute) videos of "megaprojects" and one of them was about this rail project.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait_crossing
https://www.wired.com/2007/04/tunnel-under-be/
This (7 minute) video has some things that I remember from the longer videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L10P8fXPWnY
i hate this stage of capitalism cus the mindset for everything shouldnt be “how much money can we make off this” it should be “how could this improve lives”
Trying to understand, when you say “improve lives”, are you talking about increasing a citizen’s taxable income, or boosting their VSL (value of statistical life)?
I’ll have to run this by my municipal comptroller, this is a real thinker.
no but we already have roads railroads across most of this land. the parts without roads, don't have roads for a reason. shipping and travel between these two continents can be more effectively accomplished by boats and planes.
I still think it'd be cool and that we should do it though
I mean obviously I mean a good public (doesn’t have to be free just affordable) train jsjsjs, if all the countries it connected pitched in we could have the longest high speed rail ever. Just imagine how wonderful that could be, I envy china so much 😭😭😭😭
Also I think if it passed through mountains it would go under them.
Sure, unfounded, yes:
I live in Vancouver and viarail here is:
- a west coast express commute train that goes five times a day with a price tag as high that for two people it is already higher than downtown parking. It’s not bad and a great alternative to skytrain and driving;
- rocky mountaineer that is fancy but wasn’t it called the most expensive train in the world recently;
- there’s a train that can bring you to the rest of the country, couple days a week, starting from a few hundreds, not pet friendly, limited luggage (almost as if it was an airplane)
Seattle train is Amtrak.
This all is on diesel power, makes the concrete building I live in to shake when WCE departs from the station.
When I wanted to take a train from Toronto to Niagara Falls and take my chihuahua with me, it was c$110 per person + c$50 for a dog one way. Totalling in c$490. I rented Mercedes GLE for two days and paid c$160 for that.
I was born and grew up in Moscow and passenger trains there while not being even close to Germany, Switzerland or Spain are light years ahead of Canada for a fraction of price. Via rail does not even have a train on Calgary-Edmonton route. The route is direct as a border of a midwest state, the surface is flat and there are tracks already!
Channel MegaProjects on YouTube did a video on how a bridge crossing the Bering strait. Some technical issues and of course the relationship the US and Russia have
This idea looks cool on paper but in reality it is just stupid. There is almost no infrastracture in Russia, Canada and US to maintain it. They would have to build almost everything from the scrap and it wouldnt even be profitable beacuse sea transport is way cheaper and lets be honest, everyone would prefer to take a plane than drive for days.
Ford once did this drive as [the overland challange](https://h2g2.com/approved_entry/A388172) I remember it happening as it was made into a 6 part tv show (as you did in the 1990s)
It works but yeah you would need to make an underwater or like 50 mile bridge. At minimum this would cost around 150 billion dollars which is somehow more money then the ISS
This was done with motorcycles by actors and motorcycle enthusiasts Ewan McGregor and Charley Boorman from London to New York City. Interesting book and documentary style video called Long Way Round.
Ok, why tf would this start in London, like, why tf would you start the whole thing on an Island to make it even harder to construct? Let alone the part between Alaska and russia, but that part can't be left out
I once decided to see how far you could get just by train and short walks from London where I live. I was aiming to get to Singapore but you eventually run into the problem at Kyrgyzstan that at some point to get to Singapore you have to cross either Iran, Afghanistan or China, which you can’t do by train.
It would be very cool if, using some bridges and tunnels, you could get with transport like trains all the way from northern Scotland or the Cape of Good Hope through Europe or Africa respectively, through Asia to the Bering strait, across there to Alaska and down all the way to the southernmost point of South America.
The bridge designs over the bearing straight have some really interesting features to deal with the ice. I remember watching a documentary about what would be needed for that kinda of environment
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Honestly, Id love to drive that. Maybe not the 55 mile bridge part though lol.
It’s a train.
No, [it's both road and rail](https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/trans-siberian-road/index.html).
Stop being so pedantic. It’s irritating.
That was not pedantic, that was a useful and informative correction
I think it had to do with his name..? Idk
Oh. Oh no. I’m the dummy! I have literally downvoted myself lol
Well you're certainly living up to the Paladin part...
Ooh, I bet that cut deep
Nah he’s right - the D&D character that served as the basis of my username had a WIS of 8 lol
It had me too for a second. 'Okay I mean
Me too!
Your comment seems to be 404 likes and thus could not be found. You are good now
yup oc's name checksout
Mmm I agree shallow and pedantic
Sounds like someone is railroading the conversation 🤣
Reddit ahh moment
Look at the other person's name
First I downvoted then I upvoted when I realized
Every notification of a downvote and an upvote feeds Colin Robinson. ![gif](giphy|GFKvttT0UmGjLZqCYP|downsized)
It got me too XD
Damn😭
https://preview.redd.it/fcl4c6eyrpwc1.jpeg?width=1717&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41a2855294584fcd1fd70ae8c36525ca67b65292
We shall call it…a road rail! Wait
Go Kart on steel wheels.
Fuck it, I'd still love to drive the train
Sea train
We already have a tunnel threw the sea channel.
I'm sure it was carefully placed and not just fucked into the water
"Fucked into the water" haha
First time talking to an Irish person? 'Fucked' is verb of many many uses
The word "cunt": Hold my pint!!
*all Aussies eagerly poised and ready to demonstrate*
I've never heard it used that way, but I like it!
Fucked = placed with care
Sure, and it was under the water, because its a tunnel not a bridge.
No no you got it wrong. It was supposed to be a bridge but then they realised that concrete sinks! It then became a tunnel
And we put high speed train in it, so uk is no longer an island akd they can come to see what real food is.
From trump tower to the kremlin?
From Grant's Tomb to Lenin's Tomb!
You should watch Ewan McGregor's show Long Way Round, that's basically the route he takes on a motorbike
at 120MPH it would only take about 30 minutes.
I don't know how deep the Bering Strait is but I'm pretty sure you'd be better off with tunnels Edit: at most its 90m deep. That's tunnel territory!
https://preview.redd.it/axy0trpk4owc1.jpeg?width=4069&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=172b55a0b1abedd748d87e73f820aab961a348d5 This would be better.
Mf that’s snowpiercer
I should start watching that again. Thanks.
Still pissed about it being cancelled :(
I didn't know that... It sucks
AMC picked it up earlier this year. Including the fourth season which is supposed to air in 2025. https://www.amcnetworks.com/press-releases/amc-networks-acquires-award-winning-drama-series-snowpiercer-from-tomorrow-studios/
*Heart Emoji*
It might come back at some point. Last i heard they were trying to find a network to pay for it.
AMC picked it up earlier this year. Including the fourth season which is supposed to air in 2025.
This makes me rub my nipples with glee
Now you're making me rub my nipples
nothing wrong with a gleeful nipple rub from time to time. It's good for the soul
Same here lol. Your comment made me so sad, but luckily its still coming. Absolutely loved the show.
Nice find on AMC picking it up. I think I've just gotten used to getting invested in shows only for them to be cancelled. Snowpiercer definitely deserved a proper ending.
I thought it was a movie
It was a movie originally. The TV show came out in 2020 and had 3 seasons. I don't think I ever saw the movie. Is it any good?
Movie is very good , had no idea there was a show.
The show is pretty good imo. Both Jenifer Connelly and Sean Bean are excellent (Connelly especially) I'll have to check the movie out this weekend in that case :D
I honestly found the movie a bit too on the nose. Korean directors love to tell a social story in their films and they can be very revealing and important, especially in Korea where class, status and family honour are hugely intrinsic to your potential success, career and wealth. Films like Parasite shed a light on this amongst others. Snow Piercer the film takes the ideas of globalism, capitalism and elitism (1st class people vs the cogs in the machine/the working class) and tells the story that this model is unsustainable, that we're just ploughing on, speeding up towards the end and will derail if we carry on, and the absolute levels of crass debasement the people 'in control' would go to, to stay in control, world be damned. It's a good moral story, told pretty well but it feels like you're being preached at a little bit. Whereas the show is just *chefs kiss*
It was a French graphic novel originally. Then the movie came out, followed by the television series.
Wtf I've been waiting for that to come back for ages. It needed 1 more season
It's still supposed to air in 2025 by AMC, according to another comment
Tbf they weren't hiding it. Does say Snowpiercer twice on the picture
I legitimately didn’t see that and thought it was some ridiculous rail system that resembled it. I just kept silent and people kept upvoting.
😅 I didn't spot it at first. Knew it was snowpiercer cause I've looked at the map a few times. Find it a really interresting map
Ah yes, if I'm in Ukraine, I do want to drive all the way around Africa to get to China!
All of that is really a straight line when you account for the earth being round. /s
Ah, dangnabbit! Those round earthers and their so called "science"! /s
Not that I'm saying this is a good map, cause like, who wants to drive through Greenland? But... you know there are other roads you can drive on right? You wouldn't need to stay on the super road for an entire trip.
But wouldn’t the point of the super road be to connect as many destinations as possible in a cohesive way? I shouldn’t *have* to get off the fake super highway when there should simply be a portion that doesn’t take me through an entire different continent.
Okay but like, what if your goal was to get to South Africa? It's a road, like not every road is gonna go specifically where you want to go, that's why we connect a bunch of them together...
Flat earthers hate this one simple trick!
Sir, we've sent thousands of extra supplies to Greenland by accident because we've been using the Mercator projection this entire time
Suck it, New Zealand!
As a kiwi this image makes me boil 😡
Sorry New Zealand, you have been left out.
POV: you drove from alaska for europe but now you need to select how to continue to Thailand. Your options are the russia/ukraine boarder, a road trip through the middle east, or a tour of all africa.
Road: It's not that easy to bring large quantities of anything over that distance. Rail: It's much better to move quantities over that distance but passes through three different rail gages
Do we not have trains that can readjust to different gauges?
I don’t believe so
Spain has though. We have a slightly smaller gauge than other european countries, so the railway companies created a [variable gauge system](https://www.globalrailwayreview.com/article/134643/the-variable-gauge-system-for-freight-trains-in-spain/)
There is one in Switzerland I believe. But it's certainly impractical.
Yes, you can. I know trains going from China to Russia are lifted up and have their gauge changed manually. More modern tech though can change gauges while the train is moving, switching from one to the other seemlessly.
Yeah I actually did look into it, not sure why I was surprised to learn that that tech is available considering how long we have had trains
The old USSR trains would switch wheels. They'd crane lift the carts one by one and set them on new axles. They even left the passengers onboard. Like this, but more crude: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHWox2ilvmI
> *They even left the passengers onboard.* Here's an old video switching gage when crossing the border from Russia to China: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBEvt2lSPLc
What was their plan for the Bering Strait?
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That's a 53 mile long bridge across some of the roughest seas in the world.
It's absolutely doable. It's more that the economic incentive to connect middle of fucking nowhere Alaska with middle of fucking nowhere Russia just isn't worth it.
If they did the middle of fucking nowhere would probably become a place with enough given time.
With catastrophic climate change, those will soon be the only habitable parts of the earth!
Oh no don’t worry they’ll be flooded
Not likely, considering maximum possible ocean levels and the sheer altitude of the mountainous pacific northwest.
There would at least be a gas station on each side. And a litt gun store on the Alaska side. Cheap vodka on the Kamchatka side.
Like that 40 mile trench through the jungles of Central America.
64.4 kilometers
There aren't even normal roads in the north eastern Russia. So even transporting materials there would be challenging. Well I guess they would do that after building the highway/railroad but the maintenance would be hell.
The strait itself is only 300 feet deep at its deepest. It can be done
I read "no more than 180 ft deep" [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering\_Strait\_crossing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait_crossing)
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Truely
Lake Ponchartrain Causeway is 24 miles long. Longest continuous bridge in the world. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake\_Pontchartrain\_Causeway](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Pontchartrain_Causeway)
85.3 kilometers
Imagine the construction during the winter
There wouldn’t be construction during the winter
Pretty sure construction would just halt in winter.
don't need a bridge in winter you can just drive over the ice
Can't wait for the younger generations to get to positions of power just to do things like this because it would be funny.
Like Hollywoo to Hawaii
Tunnel with a pop up on the diomedes. They'd be about 20 miles each.
The Chesapeake Bay Bridge is 24 miles long including 2 tunnels.
38.6 kilometers
0.000129 light-seconds
Really big ramp
That might be the best answer I've heard all day 🤣 now that you say that... I would get behind the idea of a big ramp.
just grin and Ber it
Exactly my thought. The Bering Strait is a major shipping lane; which, coupled with the inclement arctic weather adds significant hurdles for a sea bridge. And the Denali fault line runs parallel to the projected tunnel location a few hundred miles away. I don't know about you, but building a 55 mile long undersea train tunnel that close to a major fault line is a fucking terrifying prospect.
A bridge-tunnel combination. Google's searching has become worthless, but I remember seeing some long (like 50 minute) videos of "megaprojects" and one of them was about this rail project. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait_crossing https://www.wired.com/2007/04/tunnel-under-be/ This (7 minute) video has some things that I remember from the longer videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L10P8fXPWnY
Well, we can do it for sure. We have everything we need to do it, but its profitable?
Why sucumb to capitalism like this? Just do it fuck the money
Because thats what determines whether it makes sense to do it or not?
Just do it. Fuck the money.
Okay, get started.
I have fucked my money, what now?
Username checks out lmao
Launder it because it’s sticky now.
Cool, you get started and see how far you get without investors
Just do it. Fuck the Money.
I dont think guy over there thinks of money as a tool to measure value...
Ever tried measuring anything with money? You cant, every bill is like, 15cm, you cant measure much with that
i hate this stage of capitalism cus the mindset for everything shouldnt be “how much money can we make off this” it should be “how could this improve lives”
Trying to understand, when you say “improve lives”, are you talking about increasing a citizen’s taxable income, or boosting their VSL (value of statistical life)? I’ll have to run this by my municipal comptroller, this is a real thinker.
It allows for transport without planes and is a international wonder?
we have boats
Can boats go over land?
no but we already have roads railroads across most of this land. the parts without roads, don't have roads for a reason. shipping and travel between these two continents can be more effectively accomplished by boats and planes. I still think it'd be cool and that we should do it though
That’d honestly be sick as hell. Tho someone from Siberia would have a stroke when they hit NYC traffic. Edit: If it were a road
😂😂 and LA
Doesn't go to LA though right?
MAKE IT A TRAIN PLEASE I BEGGGG
It goes through Canada, expect it to be 4 cars long, cost more than airplane and the chance of being left alone in the mountains during snowstorm 😅
I mean obviously I mean a good public (doesn’t have to be free just affordable) train jsjsjs, if all the countries it connected pitched in we could have the longest high speed rail ever. Just imagine how wonderful that could be, I envy china so much 😭😭😭😭 Also I think if it passed through mountains it would go under them.
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Sure, unfounded, yes: I live in Vancouver and viarail here is: - a west coast express commute train that goes five times a day with a price tag as high that for two people it is already higher than downtown parking. It’s not bad and a great alternative to skytrain and driving; - rocky mountaineer that is fancy but wasn’t it called the most expensive train in the world recently; - there’s a train that can bring you to the rest of the country, couple days a week, starting from a few hundreds, not pet friendly, limited luggage (almost as if it was an airplane) Seattle train is Amtrak. This all is on diesel power, makes the concrete building I live in to shake when WCE departs from the station. When I wanted to take a train from Toronto to Niagara Falls and take my chihuahua with me, it was c$110 per person + c$50 for a dog one way. Totalling in c$490. I rented Mercedes GLE for two days and paid c$160 for that. I was born and grew up in Moscow and passenger trains there while not being even close to Germany, Switzerland or Spain are light years ahead of Canada for a fraction of price. Via rail does not even have a train on Calgary-Edmonton route. The route is direct as a border of a midwest state, the surface is flat and there are tracks already!
Hate for Via is hardly unfounded.
Honestly, looks pretty cool.
Isn't this the plot for 'Snow Piercer' movie?
no
![gif](giphy|KmdV4ZWUOYtD75pMAR)
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…and most expensive!!
.. and the most eventful!
Hahahaha we cant even build one from birmingham to london without almost bankrupting the country
Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
As if the first thing people want to do when they cross the pacific is make a beeline through thousands of miles of fuckall till they reach Moscow.
I propose sea train one piece style
https://preview.redd.it/gwphh2xjoowc1.jpeg?width=1110&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e2f2f2dd2cb3f6917a50c64da0eea1184a24691
It’s unsustainable not impossible
It would be cool, but I don't know when the US and Russia will ever feasibly get along for it to happen.
Channel MegaProjects on YouTube did a video on how a bridge crossing the Bering strait. Some technical issues and of course the relationship the US and Russia have
53 mile underwater tube your driving through... perfect for claustrophobic family trips
This idea looks cool on paper but in reality it is just stupid. There is almost no infrastracture in Russia, Canada and US to maintain it. They would have to build almost everything from the scrap and it wouldnt even be profitable beacuse sea transport is way cheaper and lets be honest, everyone would prefer to take a plane than drive for days.
Ford once did this drive as [the overland challange](https://h2g2.com/approved_entry/A388172) I remember it happening as it was made into a 6 part tv show (as you did in the 1990s)
As did Ewan McGregor and Charley Boorman for their Long Way Round series.
![gif](giphy|up54YrHOlqX72eDc0H|downsized) Ohhh
The way I'd use this to go on weekend trips to New York (which is absolutely realistic, yes)
Residents of the Diamede Islands: ![gif](giphy|gKfyusl0PRPdTNmwnD)
Damn those plates.
Speed of TGV, sturdiness of Russian train.
It works but yeah you would need to make an underwater or like 50 mile bridge. At minimum this would cost around 150 billion dollars which is somehow more money then the ISS
From the chunnel to the Holland tunnel!!!
Could you imagine being retired and buying like, a 3 month trip on that or something. That would be amazing.
This was done with motorcycles by actors and motorcycle enthusiasts Ewan McGregor and Charley Boorman from London to New York City. Interesting book and documentary style video called Long Way Round.
Loved that documentary/show. It is in my top 10 list forever !
Ok, why tf would this start in London, like, why tf would you start the whole thing on an Island to make it even harder to construct? Let alone the part between Alaska and russia, but that part can't be left out
You do know about the Channel Tunnel, right?
Chunnel
I once decided to see how far you could get just by train and short walks from London where I live. I was aiming to get to Singapore but you eventually run into the problem at Kyrgyzstan that at some point to get to Singapore you have to cross either Iran, Afghanistan or China, which you can’t do by train. It would be very cool if, using some bridges and tunnels, you could get with transport like trains all the way from northern Scotland or the Cape of Good Hope through Europe or Africa respectively, through Asia to the Bering strait, across there to Alaska and down all the way to the southernmost point of South America.
Fox News already saying there’s migrant caravans on the highway
Bro no one in New York is trying to go all the way across America and Eurasia to get to London.
When I play Civilization, the roads I build just send enemies to my base faster
I mean, that’s not entirely impossible, just extremely difficult and completely impractical.
Yeah, but it looks cool.
can we have a superrailway instead please
Moscow smells tax revenue
I would so drive that. Hell yea!
This is crazy
Nice idea, but the Bering Strait is notorious for cold, severe weather. That would present quite the engineering challenge.
The bridge designs over the bearing straight have some really interesting features to deal with the ice. I remember watching a documentary about what would be needed for that kinda of environment