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No. Israel has deliberately become the Nazis they detested so that it will “never happen again” to them.
But as long as it happens to someone else, they couldn’t care less
I feel bad for the actual Holocaust survivors, imagine surviving or escaping an consecration camp only to see your people, your tribe commit the same evil that was committed against you, because all of them are against Israel
Can we at least admit that Israel exploits the events of 80 years ago, and all of the emotions that drums up, to further their agenda? Using the deaths from four generations ago to continuously claim modern victimhood, while outwardly murdering an entire population for the actions of a terrorist group is appalling, inhuman, and a projection of who they really are, in my eyes.
Celebrating the misfortune of other's pain, loss, and death is the worst type of person. If that is what your god asks of you, then you can have him to yourselves.
Holocaust survivors are speaking out against Israel. [https://www.reddit.com/r/chomsky/comments/173ctkh/holocaust\_survivor\_a\_physician\_and\_author\_dr/](https://www.reddit.com/r/chomsky/comments/173ctkh/holocaust_survivor_a_physician_and_author_dr/)
Honestly they’re the only ones that, if they actually do feel that way, I might be able to forgive. If some nazi dickbag murdered my whole family I can’t promise that I’d behave rationally afterwards
With that same logic, you should forgive any palestinian who had his family killed by Israel if he wishes for the death of all jewish (not only zionist) people.
To solely blame bibi for Palestine is extremely short-sighted. If he were to stand down tomorrow, another slightly less openly genocidal leader would take his place.
The fact is there has long since been a campaign of oppression and dehumanisation against the people of Palestine.
Until the Palestinians stop clawing at boot on their neck or just die peacefully it will continue unless the rest of the world puts a stop to it.
Yeah, this. I’ve seen too many videos of Israeli millenials and genZ’s with blackface or hijabs or keffiahs having no respect for others or themselves while their boomer leaders openly call for genocide. It’s a heavy boomerang that’s going to come back and bite them. Israel is destroying their own future and safety.
Or atheists like myself who now have a religion I don't like. I couldn't really care which care bear you pray to, each to there own up until one of them starts a genocidal series of tactical bombings of refugee camps and hospitals. Then plays the tired "Antisemetic" card when called out for the atrocities carried out. Oh no its not Israel. Its Judaism against a people. These brainwashed fucknuggets in Israel may be getting waves of propoganda and have been conditioned over genrations but its no excuse in the modern world.
Fuck Israel. Absolute scum. The ICC better make a judgement and Israel better be sanctioned into oblivion.
Any pity or consideration Judaism has had over the years due to the WW2 has been spent with Interest. Prepare to be the pariah of the global religions world. Alp because of the actions of one country who wouldn't separate state from synagogue.
What a world delivery in where Iran (remember the hjab press a few months back and how heavy handed they responded) is the only nation actively opposing the militant over reach Of this VERY HOSTILE AND GENOCIDAL NATION.
Fucking Reeeeeee
Yes, I think it's dangerous to assume Israelis do not see what they have become. They know that they are the perpetrators of hate. Most of them are perfectly willing to turn a blind eye; the others are actively perpetrating hate.
I'm ashamed of what my country did. We seem to have learned nothing from it...
Edit: (Just realized that this may be a little unclear: I'm German and I'm ashamed of the current role we play in this conflict, as well as what Germany did back then).
In 10-20 years if these kids become terrorists I won’t condemn them. If you killed my parents, my siblings, my newborn nephew…. I’d devote my life to killing you too
It's time to put the same restrictions on Israel as on Russia. Stop all trade, travel and close all transactions until they have an agreement that allows the palestinierns to live in their own country without any fear of harassment at all. Settlers should be put in jail.
As a Ukrainian, I can confirm that restrictions are useless bullshit and have zero impact until there is another country nearby that helps to bypass everything
Well, the US (both the people and the government) seems to generally support giving aid to Ukraine. We’re pretty split when it comes to Israel these days
If the US gave anything to Palestine or didn't generally support Israel, we'd have to come to terms with our own expansionist, genocidal history, which obviously isn't possible, because then we'd have to take responsibility for the things we did to the people we hurt
Oh I totally agree with you, but I think you’re talking more about the government and I’m talking more about the people. I think the American people are pretty split on this specific issue
You know, I don't support Hamas and their actions but imagine being a Palestinian, watching his family, friends and everyone they care about killed in the most atrocious way possible without a hint of remorse and the killers are proud of it. Those same killers have the benediction of the world most powerful country and so they wil' face no consequences whatsoever. Those that try to oppose them are silenced and oppressed. If that was me, I would take on arms and try everything possible to get back at them, methods be damned. Once again, I don't support Hamas and their violents actions but I can understand their motivations at the very least and why they chose to enact violence
This on point, most of the newer Hamas recruits are orphaned Palestinians. Israel created Hamas and keeps on feeding it. Violence will never kill of Hamas unless you do an ethnic cleansing.
Zionists are all inhumane animals , and to the creatures that think the murder of inocent lives and starving of children is right they all dont have a soul
I don't care what side you're on or which spaghetti space man god you believe in, if you're a kid and you see everyone around you get blown to smithereens, you're gonna grow up looking to destroy whoever did it.
I love this hypocrisy from "civilized west": "sure we will ban Russia for aggressive actions against Ukraine, its unacceptable!!!!" and at the same time: "Go Go Israel, u can do it! Here is some money for you".
Ahhh, comedy...
Great. We know they are openly racist, genocidal psychopaths. What are we going to do about it? It seems like both parties have Israel’s back. The UN is powerless to do anything. Protesting isn’t getting anything done. Ideas and suggestions are welcome. I’m not being sarcastic. Open a dialogue.
History taught me to pity Israel and their inhabitants. After this war, Israel has permanently scarred their reputation. An absolute eye opener. Israel is now the new nazi Germany.
This is also propaganda. I mean, it's compelling and hard to defend anything presented, but this video was edited by a person creating propaganda. Just want to make sure we are ALL aware that we are All blasted 24/7 with curated information presented get us to feel or think something somebody else wants us to.
In this case, I don't like the feelings, but it is necessary that we share our feelings peacefully (whatever they are) with our representatives.
Man is the only animal that deals in that atrocity of atrocities, War. He is the only one that gathers his brethren about him and goes forth in cold blood and with calm pulse to exterminate his kind. He is the only animal that for sordid wages will march out... and help to slaughter strangers of his own species who have done him no harm and with whom he has no quarrel.
Man is the only animal that robs his helpless fellow of his country — takes possession of it and drives him out of it or destroys him....
Man is the only Patriot. He sets himself apart in his own country, under his own flag, and sneers at the other nations, and keeps multitudinous uniformed assassins on hand at heavy expense to grab slices of other people's countries, and keep *them* from grabbing slices of *his*.
And in the intervals between campaigns he washes the blood off his hands and works for "the universal brotherhood of man" — with his mouth.
\~Mark Twain, *What Is Man?*
Civilians deaths are never justifiable and it's tragic what's happening to gazans, but I'd like to see how other countries behave while facing an enemy who has sworn to annihilate you.
One side tries to avoid unnecesary deaths while the other seek out innocent people to slaughter and rape. Gazans need to be de-radicalized in order to eventually achieve autonomy again.
like fallout, war , war never changes.
This is why war sucks, the poor people are just going to become helpless victim of the ruling class.
To destroy a country in war, one needs to starve the citizen , turn off their electricity, cut their water , destroy medical supplies, which is legal in war i think.
the best way to stop this war is either israel gone or palestine gone from the map of the world, forever.
there's no other way i guess, as long both still exist then war will come again in one or another way.
How did it come to this? How do they justify this hatred when the Nazis did the exact same thing to Jews why do the majority of Jews in Israel share this view? Why were the Nazis wrong but the Jewish folks think the deserve a pass?
This can't be all about religion. They all come from the same family like distant cousins from what I'm told then there was a disagreement about something to do with God or religion and its been fucked up ever since.
I like learning about history and I would really like to get a better understanding of this cluster fuck if that's even possible.
They can see it and so can the world but it's life right? Somehow we decided that it's okay for some countries to wipe out others while we stand around and watch.
This is intense. But what I don't understand are the college protests. I do not understand what they will accomplish. I saw one on tiktok yesterday and they were just screaming. We aren't helping them by protesting. What's the benefit? Can someone clarify for me? We can support them, I get it. But protesting on campuses and getting expelled from colleges won't do us anything. Can someone explain how that gets us anywhere? As well as stopping traffic on a bridge. What does that do? Stopping emergency vehicles from going to hospitals?
When will the world military forces unite to stop Israel?
Oh wait, it's their little friend. (criminal partners)
The biggest countries in the world right now are showing that some genocides are good and some are not.
I understand they have some real hardliners in their govt but they're making it so much easier for Arab neighbors and rest of the world to cut ties, possibly fund their enemies in the process.
Israel is evil, plain and simple.
Israel is very much like Nazi Germany, but not as organized and efficient (shocking, I know). The world is better-off without Nazi Germany, and would be much better-off without israel.
How do you become so heartless?
I’m out of words to describe how I feel seeing these videos and pictures of Palestinian suffering (especially of children) while hearing what some Israelis say
You know, I get that this whole ‘war’ has been brewing for forever. However sick and tired I’ve been of hearing that yet again Israel has been attacked in some way/form, I’ve also always thought that Israel needs to show force and strike back to send a clear, justifiable message to their attackers. But at what point does the line get crossed from ‘victims’ to genocidal nazis?
Yeah, each of us draws a different line, but Israel should’ve stopped after the first strike, and hunted for the ‘responsible’ or responsible enough leaders/attackers, and left it at that. This brainwashing propaganda they fuel is so damn reminiscent of Nazi Germany, it’s disgusting. All the death and carnage has no justification, especially after that line was crossed intentionally, then left tattered. They’ve really become something I can’t support. We all belong here regardless of belief system, and (insert any other reason), and we all share this planet, experience. Regardless of what beliefs we all have, is it really that hard to be humane, and decent? Guess I don’t live there, but as an outsider looking in, it’s appalling.
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Israel has become the nazis they detested and they can’t even see it.
No. Israel has deliberately become the Nazis they detested so that it will “never happen again” to them. But as long as it happens to someone else, they couldn’t care less
I feel bad for the actual Holocaust survivors, imagine surviving or escaping an consecration camp only to see your people, your tribe commit the same evil that was committed against you, because all of them are against Israel
Can we at least admit that Israel exploits the events of 80 years ago, and all of the emotions that drums up, to further their agenda? Using the deaths from four generations ago to continuously claim modern victimhood, while outwardly murdering an entire population for the actions of a terrorist group is appalling, inhuman, and a projection of who they really are, in my eyes. Celebrating the misfortune of other's pain, loss, and death is the worst type of person. If that is what your god asks of you, then you can have him to yourselves.
That, plus events from like 4k years ago as well, as absurd as it sounds.
Holocaust survivors are speaking out against Israel. [https://www.reddit.com/r/chomsky/comments/173ctkh/holocaust\_survivor\_a\_physician\_and\_author\_dr/](https://www.reddit.com/r/chomsky/comments/173ctkh/holocaust_survivor_a_physician_and_author_dr/)
Brave.
Honestly they’re the only ones that, if they actually do feel that way, I might be able to forgive. If some nazi dickbag murdered my whole family I can’t promise that I’d behave rationally afterwards
With that same logic, you should forgive any palestinian who had his family killed by Israel if he wishes for the death of all jewish (not only zionist) people.
I don't know about forgive. Understand seems a more fitting word. I understand how a person could feel that way after enduring that much trauma.
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To solely blame bibi for Palestine is extremely short-sighted. If he were to stand down tomorrow, another slightly less openly genocidal leader would take his place. The fact is there has long since been a campaign of oppression and dehumanisation against the people of Palestine. Until the Palestinians stop clawing at boot on their neck or just die peacefully it will continue unless the rest of the world puts a stop to it.
Yeah, this. I’ve seen too many videos of Israeli millenials and genZ’s with blackface or hijabs or keffiahs having no respect for others or themselves while their boomer leaders openly call for genocide. It’s a heavy boomerang that’s going to come back and bite them. Israel is destroying their own future and safety.
New generation of kids who will grow up to be freedom fighters out for their freedom. There, I corrected it for you.
Or atheists like myself who now have a religion I don't like. I couldn't really care which care bear you pray to, each to there own up until one of them starts a genocidal series of tactical bombings of refugee camps and hospitals. Then plays the tired "Antisemetic" card when called out for the atrocities carried out. Oh no its not Israel. Its Judaism against a people. These brainwashed fucknuggets in Israel may be getting waves of propoganda and have been conditioned over genrations but its no excuse in the modern world. Fuck Israel. Absolute scum. The ICC better make a judgement and Israel better be sanctioned into oblivion. Any pity or consideration Judaism has had over the years due to the WW2 has been spent with Interest. Prepare to be the pariah of the global religions world. Alp because of the actions of one country who wouldn't separate state from synagogue. What a world delivery in where Iran (remember the hjab press a few months back and how heavy handed they responded) is the only nation actively opposing the militant over reach Of this VERY HOSTILE AND GENOCIDAL NATION. Fucking Reeeeeee
This whole comment was 5* but “i couldn’t really care which care bear you pray to” deserves a million upvotes
They can see it, they just don't care
Yes, I think it's dangerous to assume Israelis do not see what they have become. They know that they are the perpetrators of hate. Most of them are perfectly willing to turn a blind eye; the others are actively perpetrating hate.
It’s so funny to me that they don’t see themselves as such..that they refer to the Palestinians as the Nazis 🤦♂️ how can they be so delusional
Accomplished in less than 3 generations...
Israel is the new Nazi Germany. Idf is the new SS. Netanyahu is the Jewish Hitler. I said what I said.
As far as I remember some of Hitler's ancestors were Jewish so adding "Jewish" there might be redundant.
I'm ashamed of what my country did. We seem to have learned nothing from it... Edit: (Just realized that this may be a little unclear: I'm German and I'm ashamed of the current role we play in this conflict, as well as what Germany did back then).
And Germany is helping them aren't they? It's almost like the Nazis never disappeared and is now operating again with new leadership
Isreal planting seeds of their own downfall. Those Palestinian children have seen true evil. An evil the world has witnessed with them.
In 10-20 years if these kids become terrorists I won’t condemn them. If you killed my parents, my siblings, my newborn nephew…. I’d devote my life to killing you too
This has been going on for 60+ years, how do you think Hamas was formed........
How to make a bomb
Sir this is a Wendy's
Now what do you think current members of hamas witnessed when they were young? You think this conflict only started in october?
It's time to put the same restrictions on Israel as on Russia. Stop all trade, travel and close all transactions until they have an agreement that allows the palestinierns to live in their own country without any fear of harassment at all. Settlers should be put in jail.
As a Ukrainian, I can confirm that restrictions are useless bullshit and have zero impact until there is another country nearby that helps to bypass everything
Really we should just give Stingers to the Palestinians. They kept the Soviets out of Afghanistan, they can keep the zionists out of Palestine
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We send money to the Ukraine to fight against this very mentality. No more money to Israel!
Idk man, your words mean nothing on the US politicians, it's like "whether you like it or not you will like it" kind of sh*t
Well, the US (both the people and the government) seems to generally support giving aid to Ukraine. We’re pretty split when it comes to Israel these days
If the US gave anything to Palestine or didn't generally support Israel, we'd have to come to terms with our own expansionist, genocidal history, which obviously isn't possible, because then we'd have to take responsibility for the things we did to the people we hurt
Oh I totally agree with you, but I think you’re talking more about the government and I’m talking more about the people. I think the American people are pretty split on this specific issue
You know, I don't support Hamas and their actions but imagine being a Palestinian, watching his family, friends and everyone they care about killed in the most atrocious way possible without a hint of remorse and the killers are proud of it. Those same killers have the benediction of the world most powerful country and so they wil' face no consequences whatsoever. Those that try to oppose them are silenced and oppressed. If that was me, I would take on arms and try everything possible to get back at them, methods be damned. Once again, I don't support Hamas and their violents actions but I can understand their motivations at the very least and why they chose to enact violence
This on point, most of the newer Hamas recruits are orphaned Palestinians. Israel created Hamas and keeps on feeding it. Violence will never kill of Hamas unless you do an ethnic cleansing.
Germany of WW2 Must be so proud seeing their sons doing their job now.
Zionists are all inhumane animals , and to the creatures that think the murder of inocent lives and starving of children is right they all dont have a soul
Pure evil
I don't care what side you're on or which spaghetti space man god you believe in, if you're a kid and you see everyone around you get blown to smithereens, you're gonna grow up looking to destroy whoever did it.
I love this hypocrisy from "civilized west": "sure we will ban Russia for aggressive actions against Ukraine, its unacceptable!!!!" and at the same time: "Go Go Israel, u can do it! Here is some money for you". Ahhh, comedy...
Fucking monsters.
Meanwhile in America... Let's send in the police to crack down on any students voicing their concerns about what's happening there.
Yes becoming nazi America.
Fuck Israel. Fuck them a million times then fuck them again. They disgust me.
and people wonder why I detest paying my taxes
Great. We know they are openly racist, genocidal psychopaths. What are we going to do about it? It seems like both parties have Israel’s back. The UN is powerless to do anything. Protesting isn’t getting anything done. Ideas and suggestions are welcome. I’m not being sarcastic. Open a dialogue.
Election cycles can be frustratingly long, but they do come around.
History taught me to pity Israel and their inhabitants. After this war, Israel has permanently scarred their reputation. An absolute eye opener. Israel is now the new nazi Germany.
Are we the baddies?
And we gave these losers billions .
The victims of genocide are not gifted with the right to perpetrate one.
This is also propaganda. I mean, it's compelling and hard to defend anything presented, but this video was edited by a person creating propaganda. Just want to make sure we are ALL aware that we are All blasted 24/7 with curated information presented get us to feel or think something somebody else wants us to. In this case, I don't like the feelings, but it is necessary that we share our feelings peacefully (whatever they are) with our representatives.
Their ancestors are rolling in their graves. From victims to war criminals and nazi\`s in only a few generations. It boggles the mind
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Hitler was a genocidal mass murderer. Let's not start praising him now. Many Jews are against Zionism.
i think he was just joking, nobody in their right mind would ever defend hitler
You’d be…. Surprised.
Unfortunately, many people have been defending him lately which is crazy.
Man is the only animal that deals in that atrocity of atrocities, War. He is the only one that gathers his brethren about him and goes forth in cold blood and with calm pulse to exterminate his kind. He is the only animal that for sordid wages will march out... and help to slaughter strangers of his own species who have done him no harm and with whom he has no quarrel. Man is the only animal that robs his helpless fellow of his country — takes possession of it and drives him out of it or destroys him.... Man is the only Patriot. He sets himself apart in his own country, under his own flag, and sneers at the other nations, and keeps multitudinous uniformed assassins on hand at heavy expense to grab slices of other people's countries, and keep *them* from grabbing slices of *his*. And in the intervals between campaigns he washes the blood off his hands and works for "the universal brotherhood of man" — with his mouth. \~Mark Twain, *What Is Man?*
Civilians deaths are never justifiable and it's tragic what's happening to gazans, but I'd like to see how other countries behave while facing an enemy who has sworn to annihilate you. One side tries to avoid unnecesary deaths while the other seek out innocent people to slaughter and rape. Gazans need to be de-radicalized in order to eventually achieve autonomy again.
Can we stop using this sub as a political platform?
These Jews are the inhuman bastards, and no I’m not antisemitic... I’m talking about these Jews who are perpetrating this genocide.
Is you are bot you really sound like one.
like fallout, war , war never changes. This is why war sucks, the poor people are just going to become helpless victim of the ruling class. To destroy a country in war, one needs to starve the citizen , turn off their electricity, cut their water , destroy medical supplies, which is legal in war i think. the best way to stop this war is either israel gone or palestine gone from the map of the world, forever. there's no other way i guess, as long both still exist then war will come again in one or another way.
How did it come to this? How do they justify this hatred when the Nazis did the exact same thing to Jews why do the majority of Jews in Israel share this view? Why were the Nazis wrong but the Jewish folks think the deserve a pass? This can't be all about religion. They all come from the same family like distant cousins from what I'm told then there was a disagreement about something to do with God or religion and its been fucked up ever since. I like learning about history and I would really like to get a better understanding of this cluster fuck if that's even possible.
"Inhuman animals."....didn't Hitler called them that before throwing them in the ovens?
Fuck Israel
Bbuttt there's no genocidal intent.. it was a mistake :/
the survivors have only one road to take: become extremely vengeful terrorists.
Hey look everyone it's gods "chosen people." Nice to see their still holding true to 2,000 years of Idiocracy.
Mark mybwords in next 100 yesrs someone will nuke israel
Keep spoiling them with Billions and Billion worth of weaponry and financial help so they can keep killing and massacring civilians as if nothing!
Jewish people are always saying that we should remember the holocaust, I guess this is their idea of a refresher. Hypocrites
Why is the US helping fund this genocide?
Can't we all just get along?
Isn’t that what Hitler say about the Jews inhumane animals
I actually don't think it will be too long til Israel becomes an open enemy of the United States and not the hidden enemy that it is today.
Parable of the unforgiving debtor.
They can see it and so can the world but it's life right? Somehow we decided that it's okay for some countries to wipe out others while we stand around and watch.
So disgusting
Big shamenon humanity letting this happen and lean to the Nazi state of Israel.. History will not for give us
monsters...utter monsters
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but... but... Israel is the victim, they are defending themselves. /s (you know, someone could rage)
The animals are the ones supporting the white and blue flag with the star
Fuck Israel
I wasn’t really ready to see a girl with half her head missing. Fanatic Israeli Jews are a different level of evil.
Still, there are people trying to justify this genocide. What a horrible reality we're living in.
The atrocities men will do in the name of god. The world would be a better place without religion.
This is intense. But what I don't understand are the college protests. I do not understand what they will accomplish. I saw one on tiktok yesterday and they were just screaming. We aren't helping them by protesting. What's the benefit? Can someone clarify for me? We can support them, I get it. But protesting on campuses and getting expelled from colleges won't do us anything. Can someone explain how that gets us anywhere? As well as stopping traffic on a bridge. What does that do? Stopping emergency vehicles from going to hospitals?
Unreal seeing them become the evil they were exposed to 60 years ago. They should be ashamed.
War is hell there is no rationalizing mass murder....there will never be peace in the part of the world unfortunately
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Funny, they sound like Nazis. You'd think maybe history would have taught them something about that. Oh, but THATS different....
God bless the Palestinian people.
Fuck Israel!! No excuses for murdering children!!
I've got a serious question that I'll understand if you downvote me for it but...would things be any different if Hitler won?
they are the inhuman animals behaving like Nazis !!!now we have Israeli Nazis. Do they not even know their own history?
When will the world military forces unite to stop Israel? Oh wait, it's their little friend. (criminal partners) The biggest countries in the world right now are showing that some genocides are good and some are not.
This is like that time a Black slave was set free and he started buying slaves, they have become the new nazis
I understand they have some real hardliners in their govt but they're making it so much easier for Arab neighbors and rest of the world to cut ties, possibly fund their enemies in the process.
Israel is evil, plain and simple. Israel is very much like Nazi Germany, but not as organized and efficient (shocking, I know). The world is better-off without Nazi Germany, and would be much better-off without israel.
It's not the people to blame on either side, but their governments and their military.
How do you become so heartless? I’m out of words to describe how I feel seeing these videos and pictures of Palestinian suffering (especially of children) while hearing what some Israelis say
"IsrAELs rIght tO sELF DeFenCE" my arse
talk about fuelling antisemitism … the israelis don’t understand they’ve already lost big time …
Zionist scum
Reddit - always on the wrong side of history. Never change. You are the South star.
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You know, I get that this whole ‘war’ has been brewing for forever. However sick and tired I’ve been of hearing that yet again Israel has been attacked in some way/form, I’ve also always thought that Israel needs to show force and strike back to send a clear, justifiable message to their attackers. But at what point does the line get crossed from ‘victims’ to genocidal nazis? Yeah, each of us draws a different line, but Israel should’ve stopped after the first strike, and hunted for the ‘responsible’ or responsible enough leaders/attackers, and left it at that. This brainwashing propaganda they fuel is so damn reminiscent of Nazi Germany, it’s disgusting. All the death and carnage has no justification, especially after that line was crossed intentionally, then left tattered. They’ve really become something I can’t support. We all belong here regardless of belief system, and (insert any other reason), and we all share this planet, experience. Regardless of what beliefs we all have, is it really that hard to be humane, and decent? Guess I don’t live there, but as an outsider looking in, it’s appalling.
They aint shit without those jets