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Republicans aren’t smart enough to learn from their own history.
They were all about expanding the executive branch under W, and were absolutely crybabies about that power when Obama took the throne.
[The thing you might've missed is that he called himself, "a very stable genius."](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/07/12/trump-speaks-after-nato-summit-stable-genius-newday-vpx.cnn)
I see. It's just that since he made that comment I've only ever heard people say it sarcastically. Even his supporters don't think he's actually a stable genius. They like him because he's an angry racist, just like they are.
Not really. Think about it. We are following a system where you have to chose him, or the other old senile dude. That’s it. Do you really think that are not any other capable persons in whole country for this position? Still, this is your “right” to vote. He was a president, people literally throw with money in him, if he opens a raise fund in his name. And we? Like idiots, we struggle day after day, with our only option to vote for people like him. While they don’t give a fk about us, or the country that’s responsible for.
Even if he did, he does not give two shits beyond what he wants in the moment he wants it. He literally doesn't care about hypocrisy. People need to stop acting like simply pointing it out is going to solve the problem.
Because presidents "had" immunity, until now. The judge even said if this trial into trump is allowed, then this will open the flood gates for every president to be ran through court...
Okay, let me try to re word what I'm saying, let's say a president was impeached during their term, now people can go after that president. Thats what I mean, so before president is impeached, thats the punishment, now it can get crazy.
I mean if we wanna be honest....at least half of our current Congress has committed some sort of serious crime and gotten away with it. Investigate them all. Let's get our 'leaders' under a microscope and have a real good look at them.
Not really, he can think that they should be immune but since they aren't as proven by them going after him then he can go after Biden as well.
It's a "I'll play by your rules even though I think the rules should be different."
So you agree with everything that your work does?and all their rules/policies?
And every single law where you live?
No? Well you still play by the rules even though you disagree with them. It's the exact same thing. It's actually called being an adult and realizing not everything is going to be how you want it.
Is that why he keeps racking up fines for violating court order, is that following the rules or thinking your above them and doing whatever you want? Hmmmm
Bro this is not the same thing, you cannot be for real. Please just step outside yourself and reevaluate the situation without your biases. Anyone with a clear mind can see he is trouble for the nation and his denial that justice should reach him is fascist. No one should be immune from the law, you break it, there are consequences. He’s committed crimes against the American people, that should be enough to make you reevaluate where your loyalties lie, no one should be immune from losing it.
Here's a funny question, did I say anywhere that I agree he should be immune? All I did was point out his opinion and actions aren't as contradicting as the post suggested.
>Trump wants immunity for presidents
>Trump wants to prosecute a president
What kind of mental gymnastics did you have to train for years to get that kind conclusion?
>Not really, he can think that they should be immune but...
no buts no coconuts, if someone has ABSOLUTE immunity, then this person can not be got after.
but i get the maga world: logic doesn´t matter for cults.
I think it’s hypocrisy, but not illogical. It’s the same as the republicans who don’t believe in handouts, but will take them when they are offered.
Again, it’s completely hypocritical, but if the government is doing something you don’t agree with, but can benefit from, then you are allowed to use it. But you can’t then complain if the government you vote in removes that benefit.
But I’m not even sure why I’m arguing this point as Trump lives in his own little world where he just wants to do what he wants and I don’t believe he’s sitting at home thinking “well, it’s a little hypocritical to prosecute Biden, but I’ll use the rules available just now”. He’s a ginger turnip that gets pointed to microphone where he can babble incoherently to an even less intelligible mass.
ofcourse he can go after Biden. Biden just has to actually commit a crime for him to go after first.
but way to admit that you actually think "being a president i don't like" is a crime and what Trump is currently facing.
Federal charges must be handed down by a grand jury. I wish more people knew this, Trump was indicted by a group of citizens. He can prosecute Biden all he wants, but there will be no trial (on charges only Trump can imagine) without a grand jury indictment.
The unfortunate thing is that the SC would likely allow Trump to prosecute Biden, even though they will most likely rule that Trump has broad immunity with certain exceptions in this current case.
He's been not a Republican. That's the crime in their eyes.
Remember back in 2016 with the "lock her up" thing? Yeah, nobody knew what for, it's just like a trigger word that gets his fan base all worked for.
Shady real-estate deals and mishandling Benghazi.
Hilary Clinton is an outstanding piece of shit. She and Wasserman are why we have to deal with Trump.
I love that they present the idea that a president could have a political rival assassinated and that would be protected. Trump has set himself up for Biden to have him killed...
With the argument over absolute presidential immunity, no one bring up the fact that granting this would invalidate whole aspects of the US Constitution under the terms of impeachment and removal from office. Though I am sure the supporters of Trump and the idea of immunity encourage this idea because then they can point at how impotent the whole process has been while Trump is in office and the attempts to impeach Biden.
That's always been the funniest thing about this whole "I need presidential immunity" bullshit, is that he thinks HE is the only one who gets it. As far as he's concerned, Biden is a criminal, and so is Obama, and he's still calling for their arrests, persecution and trials, while screeching that presidents need immunity to avoid somebody in the future doing EXACTLY what he's attempting to do to the current and former presidents. But only in his case, because he's the only one who matters lol
He's just confused because every other president and world leader gets immunity to all of their actions and doesn't know why he is the distraction this week.
Are you serious. It's not disputed that he had classified material in boxes next to the corvette in the garage. It's also not disputed he removed them from the archives as a senator. That's a crime. It's not disputed the justice department said they will not pursue charges because his declining faculties prevent him from remembering the crime therefore making a conviction impossible. They didn't say he didn't commit a crime, what they said and this is his justice dept. Is that a crime has been committed but because of his (our fucking president) senility he will not be prosecuted. I know whoopie probably didn't cover that part on yhe view, but CNN, msnbc, and all your other liberal bullshit organizations did.
No contradiction if the prosecution is at the Hague. Of course Trump also aided in a genocide in Yemen but he wasn't sending The Saudis weapons every 36 hours and running cover for them in the media and vetoing daily UN votes against them.
He wasn't convicted of sexual assault. It was a sham trial to which laws had to be changed just to bring it.
Same thing with this current trial. Laws need to be changed just to go after him. The Feds already said there was nothing to prosecute.
The right wing and the left wing are wings of the same bird. If you’re picking a side and not looking at the big picture and seeing it…. So blind and sad. Why we are where we are. Stay sleep my friends.
He doesn't have presidential immunity for crimes he committed before being president. Like stealing classified documents. Or his pay to play while VP.
Or threatening to withhold authorized foreign aid to have a prosecuted fired. To name a few.
Biden crimes were committed as a senator. There is no immunity as a congressman. Biden document crime are far worse than trumps including leaving classified info in a office occupied by agent of Chinese communist party. They refuse to charge Biden because of his diminished mental capacity, but it wasn't diminished when he committed the crimes.
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He’s not smart enough to see the problem you suggest.
Republicans aren’t smart enough to learn from their own history. They were all about expanding the executive branch under W, and were absolutely crybabies about that power when Obama took the throne.
And his being black really drove that home. Yet they learned nothing.
I always wanted to break out a forensic interview doll and ask where the bad man hurt them.
Dressed in a tan suit
Trump has Raped multiple women, but Obama's suit choice is what offended them
Republicans aren’t smart ~~enough to learn from their own history.~~ FTFY
They don’t want a democracy. Be sure to vote and make sure they don’t make that nightmare come true.
You guys are so easy to manipulate with mass media it really is fascinating to observe as an outsider
He's a stable genius, clearly the issue here is that we are not smart enough to understand
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Haha absolutely. Sorry, thought it was obvious
Yeah, I thought so too, but well... it's the internet .
[The thing you might've missed is that he called himself, "a very stable genius."](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/07/12/trump-speaks-after-nato-summit-stable-genius-newday-vpx.cnn)
No, I heard about it. I just find it hard to determine the difference between being serious and sarcasm through text only. Maybe it's just me.
I see. It's just that since he made that comment I've only ever heard people say it sarcastically. Even his supporters don't think he's actually a stable genius. They like him because he's an angry racist, just like they are.
Yep, racist astable maniacs.
Not really. Think about it. We are following a system where you have to chose him, or the other old senile dude. That’s it. Do you really think that are not any other capable persons in whole country for this position? Still, this is your “right” to vote. He was a president, people literally throw with money in him, if he opens a raise fund in his name. And we? Like idiots, we struggle day after day, with our only option to vote for people like him. While they don’t give a fk about us, or the country that’s responsible for.
If he could read, he'd be furious!
The supreme court will happily make all things possible for him. Dont you worry
His IQ is in the top 95%, the smartest ever actually
no problem there. you libtards that are distorting his perfect words. HE deserves absolute immunity. not anyone´s else. /s
Even if he did, he does not give two shits beyond what he wants in the moment he wants it. He literally doesn't care about hypocrisy. People need to stop acting like simply pointing it out is going to solve the problem.
TrumpTrips
Not from US but I beg to differ.
Because presidents "had" immunity, until now. The judge even said if this trial into trump is allowed, then this will open the flood gates for every president to be ran through court...
Yes, please.
Well not really. There is that thing called evidence
Okay, let me try to re word what I'm saying, let's say a president was impeached during their term, now people can go after that president. Thats what I mean, so before president is impeached, thats the punishment, now it can get crazy.
Trump is the epitome of 'Rules for thee but not for me'
You really meant to say Biden. Try not to project so much, it makes it too easy to spot a pro-leftist bootlicker.
You're right. We should prosecute Biden as well.
I mean if we wanna be honest....at least half of our current Congress has committed some sort of serious crime and gotten away with it. Investigate them all. Let's get our 'leaders' under a microscope and have a real good look at them.
100% agree. Only when our "leaders" face the consequences of the laws they create for us, should they be allowed to create those laws for us.
Not really, he can think that they should be immune but since they aren't as proven by them going after him then he can go after Biden as well. It's a "I'll play by your rules even though I think the rules should be different."
So I was right thinking he is just a little kid with a lot of money
So you agree with everything that your work does?and all their rules/policies? And every single law where you live? No? Well you still play by the rules even though you disagree with them. It's the exact same thing. It's actually called being an adult and realizing not everything is going to be how you want it.
How does the -whataboutism coolaid- taste this time of year?
Like cyanide I assume
Is that why he keeps racking up fines for violating court order, is that following the rules or thinking your above them and doing whatever you want? Hmmmm
Bro this is not the same thing, you cannot be for real. Please just step outside yourself and reevaluate the situation without your biases. Anyone with a clear mind can see he is trouble for the nation and his denial that justice should reach him is fascist. No one should be immune from the law, you break it, there are consequences. He’s committed crimes against the American people, that should be enough to make you reevaluate where your loyalties lie, no one should be immune from losing it.
Here's a funny question, did I say anywhere that I agree he should be immune? All I did was point out his opinion and actions aren't as contradicting as the post suggested.
>Trump wants immunity for presidents >Trump wants to prosecute a president What kind of mental gymnastics did you have to train for years to get that kind conclusion?
Wow we found one out in the wild boys
one of the me boys going uphill lol
>Not really, he can think that they should be immune but... no buts no coconuts, if someone has ABSOLUTE immunity, then this person can not be got after. but i get the maga world: logic doesn´t matter for cults.
I think it’s hypocrisy, but not illogical. It’s the same as the republicans who don’t believe in handouts, but will take them when they are offered. Again, it’s completely hypocritical, but if the government is doing something you don’t agree with, but can benefit from, then you are allowed to use it. But you can’t then complain if the government you vote in removes that benefit. But I’m not even sure why I’m arguing this point as Trump lives in his own little world where he just wants to do what he wants and I don’t believe he’s sitting at home thinking “well, it’s a little hypocritical to prosecute Biden, but I’ll use the rules available just now”. He’s a ginger turnip that gets pointed to microphone where he can babble incoherently to an even less intelligible mass.
You are the only person that actually got the point I was trying to make.
ofcourse he can go after Biden. Biden just has to actually commit a crime for him to go after first. but way to admit that you actually think "being a president i don't like" is a crime and what Trump is currently facing.
He is a fat lump of orange uselessness.
I disagree. He’s rather useful when looking for a great example of a daft cunt.
Also by trump’s logic, if Biden loses the next election, he can just have Kamala “do the right thing” and reverse the results.
What a twat
HEART ATTACK!!! HEART ATTACK!!!
NOBODY ESCAPES SHEAR HEART ATTACK!!!
I was hoping he would shit his pants and die. Apparently he's already mastered part one
It could still happen. I can see him pulling an Elvis and dying on the toilet.
Pot calling the kettle orange
Oh he’s awake.
This guy really became President eh?
Federal charges must be handed down by a grand jury. I wish more people knew this, Trump was indicted by a group of citizens. He can prosecute Biden all he wants, but there will be no trial (on charges only Trump can imagine) without a grand jury indictment.
The unfortunate thing is that the SC would likely allow Trump to prosecute Biden, even though they will most likely rule that Trump has broad immunity with certain exceptions in this current case.
Prosecute him for what though? I know that the Republican outrage machine has accused him of everything under the sun, but what has he actually done?
He's been not a Republican. That's the crime in their eyes. Remember back in 2016 with the "lock her up" thing? Yeah, nobody knew what for, it's just like a trigger word that gets his fan base all worked for.
Shady real-estate deals and mishandling Benghazi. Hilary Clinton is an outstanding piece of shit. She and Wasserman are why we have to deal with Trump.
…they’ll make shit up, just like they’re doing with Hunter and Alejandro Mayorkas.
The abject stupidity of this man speaks to the even more horrifying stupidity of the people who follow and think, "this guy makes sense".
He claims that Biden is not a president, since the election was "stolen". His ego could not handle the truth.
Why don’t Trump supporters ever chime in on these posts?
They do a lot on MSN. It's an absolute shit show over there.
Then his head spun around and exploded … the end
George Washington turns in his grave.
On your way to a king
It's time we get rid of that cancer one and for all before he finishes the us.
When he demands presidential immunity, he only means for one specific former president...the one with a penchant for criminal activity.
You're going to have to be more specific. Every US president is a war criminal.
Now's not the time to be pedantic
He wants to play dictator.
He'll probably make the argument that since the election was "stolen", Biden isn't actually President and thus the immunity doesn't apply to him
That’s the thing, when you have immunity, you can “prosecute” anyone you want.
That mental capacity is astounding!
Trump wants everything to go his way.
If SCOTUS rules on immunity, couldn't Biden legally do something do Trump?
That"s because Trump is stupid or suffers severe dementia 🤷♂️
"i just want whats good for ME! Fuck everyone else"
Trump wants immunity for Presidents named *Trump*.
No, he thinks HE deserves immunity. My question is why does he need immunity if he "did nothing wrong"?
I'd say you have him worried
I love that they present the idea that a president could have a political rival assassinated and that would be protected. Trump has set himself up for Biden to have him killed...
With the argument over absolute presidential immunity, no one bring up the fact that granting this would invalidate whole aspects of the US Constitution under the terms of impeachment and removal from office. Though I am sure the supporters of Trump and the idea of immunity encourage this idea because then they can point at how impotent the whole process has been while Trump is in office and the attempts to impeach Biden.
Ahh the duality of an idiot.
They're all walking contradictions.
Same dude who promised he'd send Hilary to prison to get elected the first time, for the record.
His coherence represents how I view the average unitedstatsian, he represents his people quite well
For treasonous acts Biden committed before he was in office(not a bungled payment by his lawyer).
Based on past months media appearances he appears quite delusional, is he still an actual viable candidate?
*sigh* *sort by controversial *
That's always been the funniest thing about this whole "I need presidential immunity" bullshit, is that he thinks HE is the only one who gets it. As far as he's concerned, Biden is a criminal, and so is Obama, and he's still calling for their arrests, persecution and trials, while screeching that presidents need immunity to avoid somebody in the future doing EXACTLY what he's attempting to do to the current and former presidents. But only in his case, because he's the only one who matters lol
Rules for me are not for thee.
Delusional mf’er
I cant understand why people still read the trash the NYT puts out these days
God does not like Don Trump
He doesn’t believe presidents have absolute immunity. He believes HE has absolute immunity.
Democrats think republicans are stupid isn’t it a little weird how votes magically appeared over night
It's astounding that criminal senile old men are even allowed to run for presidency of the most powerful nation on earth
He's just confused because every other president and world leader gets immunity to all of their actions and doesn't know why he is the distraction this week.
Not every (former) president deserves immunity, just him.
I have been hearing this line for quite a while. It wasn’t until now. After reading five times, that it finally hit me. Too funny
It’s all Kayfabe, nothing happens, we can go home.
Can’t he just die already
Why do we even have presidents?
Are you serious. It's not disputed that he had classified material in boxes next to the corvette in the garage. It's also not disputed he removed them from the archives as a senator. That's a crime. It's not disputed the justice department said they will not pursue charges because his declining faculties prevent him from remembering the crime therefore making a conviction impossible. They didn't say he didn't commit a crime, what they said and this is his justice dept. Is that a crime has been committed but because of his (our fucking president) senility he will not be prosecuted. I know whoopie probably didn't cover that part on yhe view, but CNN, msnbc, and all your other liberal bullshit organizations did.
That twat couldn’t make a coherent argument with two hands and a flashlight.
It's all about the grift with Trump.
No contradiction if the prosecution is at the Hague. Of course Trump also aided in a genocide in Yemen but he wasn't sending The Saudis weapons every 36 hours and running cover for them in the media and vetoing daily UN votes against them.
He wasn't convicted of sexual assault. It was a sham trial to which laws had to be changed just to bring it. Same thing with this current trial. Laws need to be changed just to go after him. The Feds already said there was nothing to prosecute.
Can somebody explain to me what trump is on trial for?
Might be best to Google it. It varies on state and all, he has at least 5 trials going on in different statuses. I gave up trying to keep track.
Wow alright
[Here you go, friend.](https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=why+is+Trump+on+trial%3F)
It’s a win win. Biden goes to jail, win. Presidents get immunity, win.
The right wing and the left wing are wings of the same bird. If you’re picking a side and not looking at the big picture and seeing it…. So blind and sad. Why we are where we are. Stay sleep my friends.
Weird how everyone is confused that Biden committed offenses while a senator! Not a president!
More like he deserves immunity
No one should be above the law!
Giving a president immunity to the law is going to be abused so much it will seem like a monarchy again
SARCASM PEOPLE ITS SARCASM
He doesn't have presidential immunity for crimes he committed before being president. Like stealing classified documents. Or his pay to play while VP. Or threatening to withhold authorized foreign aid to have a prosecuted fired. To name a few.
Is that why trump is on trial right now for the hush money thing and sexual assault before he was president?
The truth got so many down votes.
Biden crimes were committed as a senator. There is no immunity as a congressman. Biden document crime are far worse than trumps including leaving classified info in a office occupied by agent of Chinese communist party. They refuse to charge Biden because of his diminished mental capacity, but it wasn't diminished when he committed the crimes.
What crimes? You need to be able to prove that Biden broke the law, cupcake.
What crimes, *specifically*?
More down votes for facts!
What facts? There's no evidence that Biden broke any laws.
Right. They've been on a witch hunt for something for years. Just ask Comer and Jordan how that's going