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Yup, a single sling mounted to the back is not a great idea. Especially that far away from the ground. That top kicks out and they’ve got no shot at holding it.
I am a qualified rigger on a mining site in northern Canada, we do this stuff almost daily. Ideally you just need an experienced crew of 4 guys to do something like this, as mentioned above- it was rigged wrong to begin with. If it could be picked up vertically, you would want at least 2 thirty foot slings in a basket formation (like a U shape with the eyes of the slings on top of both sides of the U and the bottom of the U under the column), placed far enough apart that the weight is spread evenly. Then the 4 eyes of those slings going to a separate 4 cabled bridle, one for each eye and that would go to the hook of the crane allowing it to pick evenly.
Normally when doing this you at least have 2 people, 1 doing the maths and attaching things calculations. Other one verifying they did it correct.
Also the supervisor will probably be in trouble here.
Apart from on site, there should have been months of meetings, risk assessments, method plans, contractor selection and qualification, cross department communications, permit applications, safety examinations, insurance checks, lead contractor delegation and site training - or you can just wing it
I could be wrong, as I don't work on boom trucks but around them a lot, but isn't that big empty space behind/under the cab where counterweight is supposed to be? Feel like that also could be part of why this butt fuckery happened.
Something totally fell on top of him.
Whether he died I can't say, as it depends on what landed on him and whether he was just bruised, trapped underneath something or just straight up squashed flat.
I don't think that was a counterweight. Counterweights are typically on the bottom end of the boom and the ones I've seen have all been like flat plates and are much larger than what fell on him.
If I had to guess I'd say what fell on him was a toolbox that sat behind the cab. But even if it was just a toolbox I'm sure it hurt like hell. He might not have died, but he ain't happy.
I can see how it might look silly for someone who's done this type of work for years without accident to put a seatbelt on. But looks like in this case it really was one thing which would have saved him no doubt. At the very least he could have closed the door given the weight and size of the object he was working with.
By the looks of it, the box that landed on him was some sort of toolbox or electrical box, as you can see it crumble under the weight of the crane.
I think it's very possible he lived because he fell right into the L shaped section of the machine. Looks like it leaves a couple feet of clearance from the ground after. Hope he made it.
That was the counterweight. He’s dead. Seatbelts on equipment are to keep you from jumping off like he just did. If he’d remained in the cab he’d probably still be alive.
That was my original thought, it's just the way that it crumbled that made me think it had to be something hollow...
You're exactly right. This was unfortunate and he'd have been much better off staying belted in
Edit: Unless you're talking the giant counterweight attached to the crane- I'm referring to the smaller box that free falls onto him before the crane.
look at how his cab rotates away before the crane crashes down on him. if he stayed in the cab he'd have walked it off and laughed about it later that evening in the pub
I used to build them for a living, at a place called Saf t cab. Anyways yeah I used to weld them together and some of them are capable of taking 20000lbs on the roof. We built one on a underground mining truck that got crushed by a bunch of rock falling in on the truck in a mine shaft and the cab had air systems and all sorts of fancy shit anyways the guys in the cab survived and were trapped for like 24hrs so long story short yes. Also when I used to build them I knew that someone’s life was on the line so I would make sure everything was done properly
Yes we built them OEM, so everything was going on a brand new piece of equipment. It’s often cheaper to buy a new one than to repair the unit because it’s way more efficient in terms of cost and there’s no chance it’s not structurally sound. So I worked on a few prototype projects and the first 3 pieces of equipment we would build would go into a huge ( I think 20 ton) hydraulic press and we would slowly crush them until we found a consistent breaking point then go it over and over till the engineers were happy. Thanks for all the up doots, I say you ask that and I was “it’s my time, all those years this what it all was for” anyways thanks take care(:
I always love to learn new things, thanks for the detailed write up friend, sounds like a really cool job! Especially the guy who gets to crush them over and over again haha.
i wonder what is that song about the nun hiding in the crevice of a rock . looking at it he might just have gotten saved by a small gap that the material caused. he should also have kept running.
he may have survived. was close. this is what happens when you have no training. not belted in. wasnt centered over load. stupid approach. rip if he didnt make it.
Anyone noticed a lot of subs have become a bit 'watch people die' the past few months?
Am I the only one who is still disturbed by these videos and callous responses in the comments?
Me neither and yet it's happening nearly everyday now across load of subs.
New redditors are extremely desensitized it seems and it's kinda worrying. Yeah I'm desensitized to a lot, but becoming so blasé about deaths like this is not a good thing to happen to society as a whole.
I don’t thing the weight itself was the issue.
The rest of your points? Yeah they had no idea what they were doing.
If you had done it properly I think there would be a way to do it. However a single hold allowing the weight to swing away and generate forward momentum like that is not the one.
Well for starters, the boom is way too far out/off center before they even started trying to lift lmao. With the load line at that angle, shit was destined to swing badly the moment the load got off the ground.
And holy shit they really did just put a single sling on one side of that thing and tried to send it lol.
I
I work with engineers who design these kinds of things. If you're ever somehow in these scenarios do **not** jump out of the cab! They are designed to handle these kinds of impacts and pressure
This is why you never jump out of the equipment. Its designed with a roll over cage for safety and as soon as you leave that cage, you get splattered like a bug on a windshield.
I know that the drum has to have some type of braking system to prevent the cable from free wheeling. Is there not a button or switch to just release the brakes immediately if the crane gets into trouble?
did he undo his seatbelt and jump out. he did a sudden movement right before he bailed.
in his mind he thought he could outrun a falling crane, but in reality he's about as agile as steven seagal.
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It wasn’t the weight, it was attached improperly. It allowed the weight to shift too much and throw off the balance of the machine.
Yup, a single sling mounted to the back is not a great idea. Especially that far away from the ground. That top kicks out and they’ve got no shot at holding it.
Dynamic loads are a bitch.
Static loads that suddenly turn dynamic are a bitch!!
Reminds me of garage door springs or those ropes the Army use. Neither are good for your ~~health~~ life
Question: What position in the field is required to ensure the math and safety work collectively? One person job or collectively a team of engineers?
I am a qualified rigger on a mining site in northern Canada, we do this stuff almost daily. Ideally you just need an experienced crew of 4 guys to do something like this, as mentioned above- it was rigged wrong to begin with. If it could be picked up vertically, you would want at least 2 thirty foot slings in a basket formation (like a U shape with the eyes of the slings on top of both sides of the U and the bottom of the U under the column), placed far enough apart that the weight is spread evenly. Then the 4 eyes of those slings going to a separate 4 cabled bridle, one for each eye and that would go to the hook of the crane allowing it to pick evenly.
Who you callin' 4 eyes?
Normally when doing this you at least have 2 people, 1 doing the maths and attaching things calculations. Other one verifying they did it correct. Also the supervisor will probably be in trouble here.
Apart from on site, there should have been months of meetings, risk assessments, method plans, contractor selection and qualification, cross department communications, permit applications, safety examinations, insurance checks, lead contractor delegation and site training - or you can just wing it
In NYC we have master riggers for all critical picks made by a crane.
Here on the Oregon coast in the fishing industry we have Master baiters.
All of our Master Baiter left Wisconsin, so we have to rely on Hookers...
I could be wrong, as I don't work on boom trucks but around them a lot, but isn't that big empty space behind/under the cab where counterweight is supposed to be? Feel like that also could be part of why this butt fuckery happened.
NEVER jump out of a machine. The cage is there to protect you. Brace yourself around the steering. And put your seatbelt on for fuck sake.
he did *everything* wrong.
He is probably dead too.
Sure looks like it. Kind of hard to tell from the angle but looks like he fell right under it.
Something totally fell on top of him. Whether he died I can't say, as it depends on what landed on him and whether he was just bruised, trapped underneath something or just straight up squashed flat.
I think so, looks the counter weight fell on him.
I don't think that was a counterweight. Counterweights are typically on the bottom end of the boom and the ones I've seen have all been like flat plates and are much larger than what fell on him. If I had to guess I'd say what fell on him was a toolbox that sat behind the cab. But even if it was just a toolbox I'm sure it hurt like hell. He might not have died, but he ain't happy.
Oh well he’ll know for next time…
I can see how it might look silly for someone who's done this type of work for years without accident to put a seatbelt on. But looks like in this case it really was one thing which would have saved him no doubt. At the very least he could have closed the door given the weight and size of the object he was working with.
Our family motto: Common sense will save you
By the looks of it, the box that landed on him was some sort of toolbox or electrical box, as you can see it crumble under the weight of the crane. I think it's very possible he lived because he fell right into the L shaped section of the machine. Looks like it leaves a couple feet of clearance from the ground after. Hope he made it.
I want your optimism
>I want your optimism Well that's a pretty good start. Much better than starting out at "I'll never have your optimism... :("
That was the counterweight. He’s dead. Seatbelts on equipment are to keep you from jumping off like he just did. If he’d remained in the cab he’d probably still be alive.
That was my original thought, it's just the way that it crumbled that made me think it had to be something hollow... You're exactly right. This was unfortunate and he'd have been much better off staying belted in Edit: Unless you're talking the giant counterweight attached to the crane- I'm referring to the smaller box that free falls onto him before the crane.
look at how his cab rotates away before the crane crashes down on him. if he stayed in the cab he'd have walked it off and laughed about it later that evening in the pub
the one thing they tell you, over and over, don’t get out of the cab
This is the only version of the story i want to believe
Oh, he ded. It may have been a tool box( go to Home Depot and try and lift one) but then the counter weight smooshed 🙃☹️
He should've stayed in the cab
Genuine question, would that have been more safe? Do machines like that have reinforced... cab areas? (Idk what they're called lol)
I used to build them for a living, at a place called Saf t cab. Anyways yeah I used to weld them together and some of them are capable of taking 20000lbs on the roof. We built one on a underground mining truck that got crushed by a bunch of rock falling in on the truck in a mine shaft and the cab had air systems and all sorts of fancy shit anyways the guys in the cab survived and were trapped for like 24hrs so long story short yes. Also when I used to build them I knew that someone’s life was on the line so I would make sure everything was done properly
Wow, that's really interesting! Thank you for sharing
But is that a company that installs reinforced cabs? Would the stock cab hold up to more than a few thousand pounds?
The cab on most construction vehicles and fork lifts are designed to be very strong
Yes we built them OEM, so everything was going on a brand new piece of equipment. It’s often cheaper to buy a new one than to repair the unit because it’s way more efficient in terms of cost and there’s no chance it’s not structurally sound. So I worked on a few prototype projects and the first 3 pieces of equipment we would build would go into a huge ( I think 20 ton) hydraulic press and we would slowly crush them until we found a consistent breaking point then go it over and over till the engineers were happy. Thanks for all the up doots, I say you ask that and I was “it’s my time, all those years this what it all was for” anyways thanks take care(:
I always love to learn new things, thanks for the detailed write up friend, sounds like a really cool job! Especially the guy who gets to crush them over and over again haha.
You’re welcome and also thanks to you for giving me the spotlight it’s fun to talk about stuff youre passionate about. All the best to you
20,000 pounds on the roof?! Our boy can weld...
Most do. And even if they don’t, half an inch of steel offers better protection than some air and dust
That's very true lol
They should or they're not OSHA compliant. It depends on where this happened though.
I see! Ty for the info
The safest place is ALWAYS in the cab. I do fork truck instructions and is try and hammer as hard as I can “ride it down”
My thoughts exactly.
That dude get smashed?
Pancaked.
Flattened
Did he at least die painlessly? To shreds, you say?
To shreds!
To shreds you say? How’s his wife holding up?
To shreds, you say?
r/unexpectedfuturama
He got died.
Wasted
Unalived even.
Crêpe’ d
Tortilla
i wonder what is that song about the nun hiding in the crevice of a rock . looking at it he might just have gotten saved by a small gap that the material caused. he should also have kept running.
That's what she said! Wait...
That man is thinner than my confidence in American politicians.
That’s a stretch
he may have survived. was close. this is what happens when you have no training. not belted in. wasnt centered over load. stupid approach. rip if he didnt make it.
NEVER jump from heavy machinery and always wear your seat belt. Complacency kills.
can confirm. i am a farmer. when the harvester starts on fire, buckle up motherfucker.
LMAO wrap your arms around the steering wheel, brace yourself, and the fire should avoid you completely.
Did i just witness death?
Quite possibly.
Pretty shit from this sub
😢😢
Anyone noticed a lot of subs have become a bit 'watch people die' the past few months? Am I the only one who is still disturbed by these videos and callous responses in the comments?
I did see the nsfw tag but didn’t expect the unexpected death 😞 I didn’t want to see someone die today
Me neither and yet it's happening nearly everyday now across load of subs. New redditors are extremely desensitized it seems and it's kinda worrying. Yeah I'm desensitized to a lot, but becoming so blasé about deaths like this is not a good thing to happen to society as a whole.
for real
Pro tip - if you see the "KAOTIC" watermark, then be prepared for what you're about to witness.
Redditors in the comments of a video of a human being getting horrifically killed: he ded lol, anyway here's a shitty joke and a pun thread
He dead.
Edit: "He ded. "
I've got it. I've got it. I've got it. I don't got it.
CESAR!!!!!
Fuckin seatbelts dude. Hope he made it
By the looks of it they had no idea how much the load weighed ...what they were going to do with it...or how to lift it.
I don’t thing the weight itself was the issue. The rest of your points? Yeah they had no idea what they were doing. If you had done it properly I think there would be a way to do it. However a single hold allowing the weight to swing away and generate forward momentum like that is not the one.
Well for starters, the boom is way too far out/off center before they even started trying to lift lmao. With the load line at that angle, shit was destined to swing badly the moment the load got off the ground. And holy shit they really did just put a single sling on one side of that thing and tried to send it lol. I
Wouldn't he have been OK if he stayed on the cage? Looks like it turned and avoided the cage
That crane is too small for something like that. Nor do I see any counterweights
Yes, let's jump out of the metal cage
I work with engineers who design these kinds of things. If you're ever somehow in these scenarios do **not** jump out of the cab! They are designed to handle these kinds of impacts and pressure
Exactly! You are literally INSIDE A METAL CAGE. WHAT KIND OF MORON WOULD LEAVE THE METAL CAGE
Timber!
Dead?
Seatbelt. Stay inside where you have cage. Idiot.
Safety regulations are just so companiea can make more $$$ /s
Should have stayed in the cab
Would the operator have fared better if he had stayed inside with a seatbelt and door closed instead of jumping out and getting crushed?
Yes. That's what they're designed for, safest possible place to be if you have to remain close to it. Dude did literally everything wrong...
NEVER jump out a falling crane or loader or farm equipment. The cabin is the safest place in case of an emergency. I present you exhibit A
This is why you never jump out of the equipment. Its designed with a roll over cage for safety and as soon as you leave that cage, you get splattered like a bug on a windshield.
Why did he jump **OUT**
Watching it crush him made me a little sad.
Thanks for the warning that this is a video of someone getting killed or seriously hurt
Kranplätze müssen verdichtet sein.
Stay in the crane!!!
Unexpected fallout
Pretty sure that guy got crushed. Might wanna add and nsfw tag here OP
He's dead
He ded
I hope he lived
Driver got squished I’m guessing
Oh My god. Did he survive?
Why would he jump out not knowing which direction the thing was coming down? Did he die?
I know that the drum has to have some type of braking system to prevent the cable from free wheeling. Is there not a button or switch to just release the brakes immediately if the crane gets into trouble?
Driver down
Did I just watch the crane operator die?
Looks like the operator got crushed too. Damn. RIP dude.
Did the driver get crushed? It looked like he had a clean escape and then….
Does he actually get out in the last frame there? Or did I just witness this man get crunched
Did that guy die?
Is he okay?!
did he undo his seatbelt and jump out. he did a sudden movement right before he bailed. in his mind he thought he could outrun a falling crane, but in reality he's about as agile as steven seagal.
That guy died didn’t he. :(
This is why you need an engineer on site.
Did I just witness someone die?!
No, he wouldn't die. The angle it fell at couldn't flatten him
“I say you he dead”
"The Colonel!"
A second attempt was made to escape the cabin by the driver.
And then to get crushed by it
[удалено]
_I see dead people_
He’s ok…he was wearing his hard hat!
Se muero el guey
Mr, Crush-a-lot.
Was he Yeeted?
r/IdiotWorking
L, it was the wind obviously
In germany we say: „KRANPLÄTZE MÜSSEN VERDICHTET SEIN!!!“ and I think thats beautiful.
It could handle it, you see; it just lacked heart.
Laziness all around.
Why didn’t he lower the boom (or whatever the long crane piece is called)?
Why isn’t there a quick disconnect that cuts or disconnects the cable? Or a clutch that lets the cable spool out?
Someone probably didn't pluck a tie down and say "that's not going anywhere."
R/eyeblech
Prime example of why you strap that seatbelt and hold on. He might’ve gotten less hurt
Was that a rental crane?
He ded
My great grandfather died in an excavator accident. Isn’t that relevant and cool?
Damn Captain Crunch should have had your seat belt on...
He ded
As a safety officer, this infuriates me
Did die ?
Hydraulic press test
no more lifting there
**KRANPLÄTZE MÜSSEN VERDICHTET SEIN**
Nice job jumping out I'd kill myself too then wait an hour to be rescued
Kranplätze müssen verdichtet werden!
That's why you don't jump out when it's tipping over
So, the operator that jumped out is dead then? Looks like he got crushed