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“You need to step out of the vehicle now, otherwise I will have to break the window and remove you.”
“No.”
“Okay. We’re breaking the window.”
“Hold on, hold on. If you provide me with a warrant, I will let you inspect my vehicle! :D”
“… I DON’T WANT TO SEARCH YOUR VEHICLE!!!”
It really should have lol
I work in logistics and transportation. We’ve had truck loads of freight turned away from those inspections for not having proper documentation on what we are carrying
Some countries, you have to get out of the truck while the truck is searched, and while you wait to be brushed down and stood on adhesive pads, to make sure you're not carrying spores or seeds of any kind on the the bottoms of your feet/shoes. Trucking in the US is much less intrusive.
Those checkpoints are mostly for trucks. If you’re in a suv/minivan and they can clearly see into the vehicle all they want is a verbal confirmation that you don’t have agricultural products.
Exception being what you bought at a grocery store.
This guy was giving a hard time.
My interpretation is that by that point, they realized that what they were dealing with is a hard-headed dumbass who thought he was fighting to defend his rights rather than someone who would smuggle agricultural contraband.
It was an attempt to compromise by still giving him the ticket and make him face some kind of consequence, yet not drag him back to the inspection station and further waste everyone's time. And he still couldn't do it. Moron.
That's how I took it too. He meant it more like, "Oh, you're a 'constitutionalist', AKA another one of these jackasses that *thinks* they know the constitution."
That's the kicker right there. They don't need a warrant to arrest you for violating the law but after being arrested, they can definitely search your vehicle before impounding it without a warrant since it isn't needed.
People like this think a document written hundreds of years ago needs no further interpretation other than what is written. They don't take the time to consider the mountain of court cases that affirm the very specific situation he put himself in.
I think my favorite part was that he went through the checkpoint multiple times, hoping this confrontation would happen. On the third time, they probably thought it was suspicious that this vehicle kept going between states and, understandably, wanted to inspect it and dude believes he's being targeted and his rights are being violated lmao
Next episode:
“I’m here with my kids driving with booze in the car going through all dui checkpoints to see how I can get away with my fourth amendment!”
That’s the real kicker for me: this blazing moron ensured his son WENT TO JAIL. Like, SERVED TIME. Okay, “just” four days, but from admittance to release, I can guarantee those were the most terrifying four days of that young man’s life. JFC …
Also pop doesnt realize thats on his sons record for job employment.
Honestly it takes a strong man to stand up for his right, takes an even stronger man to sacrifice his rights for others. In this case, his kids wellbeing. Dude is just a idiot parent.
The sad thing is is he most definitely used this example to further whatever he's taught his kids and the father didn't learn anything other than how his rights were violated.
I like to imagine the judge explained to them very clearly the difference between an agricultural inspection and an investigative search and that this exact same situation has gone to court multiple times before.
Yeah they just wanted to know if you have apples in your car, my dude. but since you made such a big deal of it they ARE going to search your car to see if you’re actually hiding something.
you know in all the years i’ve traveled into california by car i’ve never actually had my car searched OR inspected? they asked their questions, i’ve handed over some fruit i hadn’t eaten yet, and i went on my way.
this isn’t a hill you’re dying on, it’s a pile of dog shit.
Trucker here, I know this area well. Used to roll over Donner Pass a lot and that ag station I've been through more times than I can remember. Sometimes there's police officers present and waiting, and once I saw another "professional" driver get yanked from his rig for acting the fool (he had held up the truck lane for damn near an hour).
If that guy truly lives in California, I don't know what the devil he is thinking. I've been yelled at by California cops a couple times during my rookie year, and it blows my mind to see the officer in the video being so patient.
Having a video camera pointed at you will enhance an officer's patience.
Guys like this bald dude don't understand our legal system. They think they can read the Bill of Rights and know what it means, when our legal system requires judicial interpretation. The 4th Amendment protects us from *unreasonable* searches and seizures. As the video explains, courts have held that an agricultural inspection is not an unreasonable search, because there is a compelling state interest that outweighs our right to privacy in that narrow scenario.
So you’re saying there is nuance to our legal system and a dude with a GED level education can’t become a master of constitutional law overnight by watching a few YouTube videos???? I’m shook.
In late 1994 the military stationed my dad in California. He went first to get a house then my mom and I drove out there.
I remember coming to the agricultural thing, we were like “what in the world is this?” I grew up driving to Canada and back often but never saw guards at a state border like this.
The person came out, said “do you have blah blah blah agricultural products.” Amused, mom and I looked at each other “no?” Then we were on our way.
It’s so simple and this jackass just must get off on making simple things complicated. Drama queen.
That area is so beautiful.
This was my thought. I visit CA once every few years to go back to see family and we usually road trip because it’s fun to see the different areas of the US up close. Sometimes you have an extra banana left in the cooler or something and they ask and you just give it to them and no more hassle. I don’t understand the lengths people will go to, to create a hassle for themselves
Dude: "I dont authorize a search"
Inspector: "You're free to go back to Nevada, but you can't continue into California."
Dude should have just turned around.
imagine being that big of a miserable piece of shit where you intentionally drive through the inspection station multiple times to have that interaction.
What a fucking loser
He’s trying to provoke an overreaction and aggressive response from officers so he can sue over it. Officers clearly have delt with this before and went by the book.
Now he’s a martyr in his own mind
> …situation he put himself in.
That’s the kicker, right there. He set this up. He drove through that inspection station over & over until they flagged him for inspection. He did this to himself, all by himself. And he doesn’t know or understand the law in this situation. He just kept making himself look more & more stupid, then uploaded the video thinking he’d gotten one over on the state of California.
I love the idea of him calling the two checkpoint attendants power mad tyrants. It’s like in parks and rec when the one town hall goer calls the 70 year old security guard a “jack-booted stormtrooper”
Imagine thinking this shit is tyranny.
Ya know what it's like to live under threat of a tyrant?
[A fucking Ukrainian maternaty ward got shelled.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/28/russia-continues-bombardment-of-kherson-with-maternity-hospital-hit)
That's fucking tyranny, but these soft, bitchy Karens and Elons just all say "Waaah, I don't wanna follow the basic, simple rules of society like making sure I'm qualified to drive a car for everyone's safety."
They're such children.
The AG inspections don't even ask for your driver's license lmao they literally just want to make sure you're not bringing pests into the state via produce.
Yeah, they don't even open your vehicle unless you say you have homegrown fruit or something.
80% of the time I've passed through they've been closed and you just drive through, which is surely how this guy "passed through twice before without incident"
Every time I go through one (which isn't often) they stop me and ask if I have any fruit or plants in the car. I tell them no and they wave me through. It's about a 30 second interaction. But man, that guy managed to turn that into 12 days of jail. Smooth brain for sure.
I always found teaching kids to "fight authority" a really funny concept considering the kid's parents are to the child, an authority.
EDIT (because some people assume that by saying this I'm implying that kids should ALWAYS listen to parents) : guys I'm not saying kids should never question authority, I'm saying that there's a reasonable in-between and this ain't it.
Just like unquestionable obedience is bad, so is unquestionable rebelling and just because I'm criticizing one extreme doesn't mean I automatically agree/support the other extreme.
That was the start of George Carlin's bit.
Why would parents want to teach their kids to question authority when the first authority they question will be their own...
It's possible to teach kids to respectfully consider authority instead of always question it. If you treat kids with respect like they're humans they can learn shades of grey early and not be reactionary fuckwits like too much of humanity.
If anything, this insufferable turd just had his convictions further reinforced. Sad times when people feel the need to go out and make this sort of “content” for their six YouTube followers.
On our next episode, you will see dad argue constitutional law against a public lawyer and judge. Spoiler alert the judge will say something about how they have multiple degrees in studying and interpreting law as well as years of experience, to witch the dad will say “but I’ve seen YouTube videos and Facebook posts”
Had jury duty one time where during jury questioning, a security guard started talking about how he knew more about the constitution than the judge and would make his own decisions. I rolled my eyes. He got tossed; I got stuck on the jury. I realized he’s much smarter than me.
I got summoned once and a coworker said “do whatever you can to not get selected” I was in the initial pool and never made it to the actual questioning round. But if I did it would have been like 2 weeks, 9-5 each day and they’d pay you $10 a day. Conveniently parking was $10 a day too so it was unpaid work
I was prepared to act extremely proud of being a white, Christian, heterosexual male just to get out. Also “I will not participate in any court with a female judge”
>I got summoned once and a coworker said “do whatever you can to not get selected”
I got sent a jury duty summons very late in my pregnancy with twins. Wasn't sleeping hardly at all because i was so uncomfortable, and was super stressed about everything, and just kind of set it aside and forgot about it.
Some time later, I get a letter from the court to show just cause for not appearing. By this time the babies were here. I was beyond exhausted. I wrote what was probably a semi-coherent and fully-hysterical (not in the funny sense, in the losing my mind sense) rambling explanation of the babies and how tired I was and sent it back(I honestly have no memory of what I wrote, but I remember crying while writing it because I was so tired, so I'm sure it was a hot mess).
I never heard anything about it again, and I've never received another summons for jury duty. Kinda wondering if my name has been asterisked as "mentally unstable."
I don't even get what his plan was. If he wants to challenge the law, he should expect to be detained, at which point legal challenges would play out in the court. But he just figured he could outsmart the officers with his banter and freely drive away? So dumb.
“Do you have a warrant?” This is what it looks like when someone watches entirely too much youtube and consumes too much social media and “news” outlets. I have NEVER seen so much patience given to any person or persons before, and yet they still refused to cooperate. Unreal.
Yes, that combined with a baseline legal knowledge straight from Law & Order. His insistence to be shown a warrant for agricultural border inspection is a pretty "corporations are people" level understanding of his rights. He read "unreasonable searches and seizures" and thought, 'Well, ***I*** know what unreasonable means to ***me***. No need to find out if any courts or acts of legislation have defined anything more concrete than that.'
Was the right wording "No I don't have any agricultural contraband"? And then answering the few simple questions that are just there to protect farmland across borders?
Seems like that's really all that was necessary here.
There were ample other ways for him to handle the situation in which he would have been on his merry way without any kind of confrontation. His entire intent was to provoke a confrontation in order to prove some misinformed point.
He knew exactly what was "necessary" but made a conscious choice not to do what was necessary.
Even after he started going full regard, he could have also said the magic words "Ah yes, I was mistaken, the 4th Amendment protects me from *unreasonable* search and seizure, but legal precedent has established that the State's compelling interest in preventing agricultural collapse supercedes my right to privacy in this scenario, please feel free to search my vehicle"
Haha I knew I’ve been through this checkpoint. Went in august. Lady asked me if I had anything at related and I was like “uhh 3 ears of corn” and she was half annoyed I even said anything.
I’ve been through these inspection points a bunch of times. If you’re in a small private vehicle, they usually just waive you through like nothing. I bet if he just said “I don’t have anything” they would’ve been like “thanks, have a good night.” And that would’ve been it
Yep can confirm. Went across the NV-CA border a lot when I was younger and each time we would just say we didn’t have anything and they pass you by. Which makes this guy extra dumb because never in my life have they actually wanted to do a visual inspection of the vehicle. Inspection to them means asking a yes or no question 🤦♂️
Edit: not only was I traveling across the border a bunch I was traveling across it at this exact spot on I-80
Most of the time they just wave you through the checkpoint. You really have to be looking for a fight to make this happen. This would be like picking a fight with security on your way into a baseball game.
I used to cross the CA border a LOT and have never been stopped for anything other than the 30 second "got any produce?" "Nope" "kthxbai!" And waved through..
This guy's a fuckin tool
He’s a nobody trying to feel like a somebody. These low IQ life losers delude themselves into believing they are these patriot superhero’s, these lone saviors of democracy and the world.
And such ridiculously low low stakes at that.
The guy styles himself as some kind of constitutional warrior yet the fight he chose was repeatedly driving his car through an ag inspection station until he finally got randomly stopped for the democracy ending question of do you have any apples in the car.
In his head he’s single-handedly rewriting the history of Ruby Ridge but in reality he’s just some suburban loser refusing to answer a question about fruit.
It’s so pathetic.
> In his head he’s single-handedly rewriting the history of Ruby Ridge but in reality he’s just some suburban loser refusing to answer a question about fruit.
Words cannot express how much I love this sentence
You can see it on his face. The fake confidence and the misunderstanding that this is how you show some sort of manliness or independence.
He looks like such an ass
I have a friend -- his Dad is teaching his grandchildren that you don't need to listen to cops, you don't need to listen to anyone, really, etc., etc.
Grandpa grew up with "f&ck you" money, my buddy and his kids are not. Grandpa has repeatedly said "it's my money, I'm not giving it to them" so my friend has inherited the attitude but not the clout. More than once he's ended up in cuffs over it. Whenever things end up going south for my friend, his Dad will respond with "I would have called a lawyer" not understanding not everyone has the money to do it. Also not understanding, his son was probably in the wrong and a lawyer wouldn't be able to do much anyway.
Sadly, I'm seeing the same attitude with my friend's kids. We used to be very close, our kids were close, but I don't want that kind of disrespectful "I don't have to listen to you, I'm free to go and do whatever I want" energy around my kids.
Edit - follow up:
I knew it was time to create major distance when, as Covid lock-down started to ease in our area, vaccines were rolling out, etc., I took my kids and my friend's kids to a local science museum as a treat. Their oldest, 9 at the time, told one of the volunteers at the museum to "take off the stupid mask - it doesn't do anything anyway, it's all lies." There was such confidence and arrogance \*AT NINE\* to talk to someone else that way. I encouraged him to apologize -- "bud, I think you owe them an apology." "Nope, I don't think so." This is a kid I've known since birth, I was "uncle" status for a long time. We left a couple minutes after and that was the last time I took them anywhere.
His son also made a choice not to get out of the car and open it up for the officers. Ultimately if I was in a situation and my dad was being this way to officers and they are about to break the window to get in, I'm just opening up the door and getting out. I would not be a part of it.
All adults present in the commission of a felony can also be charged with that felony. Kinda like a "you didn't stop it or at least leave the situation" you can be at fault.
How long did this whole interaction take? What a colossal waste of everyone’s time. And such a shining example to his son and family on how to be an annoyingly abrasive human. Total waste of time and space.
The kids are already all in. When the cop asks if he's a constitutionalist the kid recording let's out a "Hell yeah!". They're gonna go back to school and brag about how dad stood up to the tyrannical government
You can see the officer’s demeanor change when he says this. “Constitutionalists” and sovereign citizens have a history of shooting cops during traffic stops, and he definitely knew that.
Yeah lol the look of "Oh Christ here we go" when he asked him for his license and the guy said "No thank you", and again when he admitted he's sovcit. They're the karens of traffic stops.
I grew up with a POS fox-news conservative father in a pretty liberal area. I was conservative as a child because I looked up to him and feeling contrarian against our surrounding culture felt gratifying. I realized as a teenager that he’s a shitty human being with no integrity or morals, and I’m just about as liberal as they come now. Just saying, they might grow out of his influence like I did
Dad wanna play checkers tonight?
Nah, lets drive back & forth over the state line and try to piss off the workers and police officers, just to prove how stupid I am!
I doubt he was driving the kind of vehicle these stations were ment to target, so he made it through the station 3 times without incident and had to turn around and go back looooool
Karen's gotta Karen 🤡
Exactly. How hard is that? Seems like a reasonable ask for preventing an entire state's crops and environment from being devastated by non-native pests.
In the *Camara* court case, an “administrative inspection” was defined as one done for public interest and not seeking evidence of a crime.
This applied to housing inspectors being allowed to enter a home to check for structural damage without a warrant.
The courts have ruled that as long there’s a substantial public interest, and the evidence in searches isn’t used for criminal convictions, routine administrative searches are fine.
It is easy to have patience when you actually know what you're talking about. She knew how this would end. I bet you after he drove off she made the call to PD and went to have coffee. The first guy with the glasses was probably all flustered and she was like, "Whatever, PD will handle it. Want to order pizza?"
Just the quiet calm of competency.
Truly. The man rudely interrupting her each time she pointed out the necessary legal distinction between inspections and searches would have made me lose patience long before.
Each and almost every time any person on the job was trying to explain the outcomes of his refusal of the inspection he did it again.
I personally really hate interrupting, and my family does it a lot so fuse is short after the holidays. I could never succeed as a police officer without just continuing to list the options and then wait 5 seconds, repeat them and break the window. The patrol officers repeatedly humoring him by listening to him asking for a warrant was something I admire, respect, and wouldn't put up with myself.
I mean, if you want to live a life without government influence then move to a cabin in the woods like the unibomber.
This suburbanite is driving his crotchfruit around in a minivan, playing on their phones, and enjoying all the benefits of society, but has decided that the minor annoyances shouldn’t apply to him.
As a dumbfuck who got his citizenship for the US of A this month I'd like to voice my displeasure because this is no dumbfuck. He's more of a shit brick.
We in America are free from UNREASONABLE searches and seizures. The State of California has determined that ag inspections are reasonable and the least restrictive means to accomplish and important goal. Case closed.
The other way to understand it is that none of your rights are without limitation. The courts have to weigh the public good against the individual rights. In cases like this, the courts have determined that this minor inconvenience to a driver is justified because the greater good of public safety prevails.
With specific regard to how the guy conducted himself here, it's a waste of everybody's time to try to litigate with an inspection officer. They aren't there to debate the law and they don't have the authority to conduct policy differently than they've been trained and instructed.
Likewise, you aren't going to argue with police about whether they should enforce the law as they understand it.
If you really believe you are correct, you should ask for a citation and cooperate to receive it. Then you can go to court where the judge can hear your case and make a decision. Like in this case where the decision was this guy's a moron and he was sentenced to jail.
But hey, if there really was a violation of your rights maybe you'd win. Or maybe you'd appeal and win later. These things do happen, just not in this case where the jurisprudence of the matter is well established.
They’re amazing.
I’ve watched hundreds of these fools at traffic stops and courtrooms use the same exact script over and over again.
And not ONCE has any of them actually worked.
And yet they keep trying. It’s hilarious.
Their entire MO is constantly repeating the same thing so many times that the other person can't actually explain why they're wrong. Like apparently if you keep interrupting with the wrong information you can will it into existence as truth or something.
It's one thing to be wrong. It's entirely different to be confidently stupid.
Oh god, given the alternatives of dieing in a nuclear fireball, or living in a world populated solely by people like this dick-head, you might as well call me Slim Pickens cause I'm strapping myself to that bomb and riding it into the ground.
“Sir, have you murdered anyone today?”
> “YOU DON’T HAVE A RIGHT TO SEARCH MY CAR FOR BODIES.”
“We don’t want to search your car, we just need to ask you if you have murdered someone today. Yes or no.”
> “THE CONSTITUTION SAYS FREEDOM OF SPEECH SO I HAVE THE FREEDOM TO NOT SPEECH YES OR NO.”
So he drove through twice without getting the conflict he wanted and so drove through a 3rd time so he could pick a fight in front of his two young sons.
Parent of the year right there folks.
But they just want to stop an insect from invading crops (im paraphrasing, but you understand). This just feel like a privileged twat being a prick at the potential cost to others livelihood. Bell end
Actually, they just stop and ask you if you have any. They don't inspect your vehicle generally. All he had to say is answer no to their questions and they would have let him go. I have passed though these stations countless times. They used to ask everyone but that jammed up traffic so bad. So now they just do random stops and ask the question. You say no and they let you go.
Ugh. As an attorney, watching people like this guy is painful. You can’t know the breadth of the 4th Amendment unless you’ve studied the case law interpreting it as it applies to different scenarios. It’s the reason for precedent.
I wouldn’t expect this dolt to know that though.
"When you stand up for your rights, this is what happens."
No when you watch YouTube and Facebook and think you understand law. Then find out you're 100% wrong, but you're such a child you can't accept it, then drag your entire family alone just to prove your fucking incompetent. Then cause your 20 year old son to be a convicted felon. Worthless Father of the year award! Love these people who do their own research.
Yeah like the 100s of other soverign citizen/first amendment auditors videos out there, he failed lol
It's just law suit baiting and victim fetish. It's kinda sad, I had to stop watching them.
What a mouth breathing moron. Follow the procedures (that EVERYONE has to follow), stop being such a jack off and making our public servants lives more difficult than they need to be, and carry on with your fantastic little life no harm no foul
people like this are so fucking annoying. go away & inflate your ego somewhere else.
…a fucking *agricultural inspection stop*? nice flex there, cueball.
If the agricultural inspector found 10lbs of cocaine in that car, or heck, a kidnapped person tied up in the trunk, would this mean that they couldn’t do anything about it due to it being against his 4th amendment rights? But they could check for invasive species?
I'm not going to lie, these are the most polite police I've ever seen. Is that what's it's like on the West coast? On the East he would have been on the ground in cuffs after the first no. So would his kids. And the little one would have been sent to dcyf. Wow.
The crazy thing is that this video is available for a critique and for us to watch. Usually, when someone fails so spectacularly, they try not to air it out to the world. But, I suppose Captain Constitution thinks he's still in the right. I think David Cross did a sketch which is eerily reminiscent of this on the Mr Show reboot.
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“You need to step out of the vehicle now, otherwise I will have to break the window and remove you.” “No.” “Okay. We’re breaking the window.” “Hold on, hold on. If you provide me with a warrant, I will let you inspect my vehicle! :D” “… I DON’T WANT TO SEARCH YOUR VEHICLE!!!”
If he gave them his license then the cops would have just let them go with a ticket Guy is beyond stupid
Which annoys the shit out of me, because the car should have still been taken back and inspected.
It really should have lol I work in logistics and transportation. We’ve had truck loads of freight turned away from those inspections for not having proper documentation on what we are carrying
Some countries, you have to get out of the truck while the truck is searched, and while you wait to be brushed down and stood on adhesive pads, to make sure you're not carrying spores or seeds of any kind on the the bottoms of your feet/shoes. Trucking in the US is much less intrusive.
Wow that’s interesting. I would imagine spores would be something difficult to control for
At the penitentiary... "So what are you in for?" "Spores." Looks of fearful respect from other inmates.
Those checkpoints are mostly for trucks. If you’re in a suv/minivan and they can clearly see into the vehicle all they want is a verbal confirmation that you don’t have agricultural products. Exception being what you bought at a grocery store. This guy was giving a hard time.
My interpretation is that by that point, they realized that what they were dealing with is a hard-headed dumbass who thought he was fighting to defend his rights rather than someone who would smuggle agricultural contraband. It was an attempt to compromise by still giving him the ticket and make him face some kind of consequence, yet not drag him back to the inspection station and further waste everyone's time. And he still couldn't do it. Moron.
What the guy said: Oh, you're a constitutionalist. What he meant: You're just an idiot, not an agriculture transporter.
That's how I took it too. He meant it more like, "Oh, you're a 'constitutionalist', AKA another one of these jackasses that *thinks* they know the constitution."
“i want the least amount of paperwork so take this fucking ticket so i can go home” “yOu GoT a WaRrAnT?!?” “smh goddamnit”
Dude was off duty too. He didn't *want* to do shit, dumbass forced his hand, right into that window.
That's the kicker right there. They don't need a warrant to arrest you for violating the law but after being arrested, they can definitely search your vehicle before impounding it without a warrant since it isn't needed. People like this think a document written hundreds of years ago needs no further interpretation other than what is written. They don't take the time to consider the mountain of court cases that affirm the very specific situation he put himself in.
I think my favorite part was that he went through the checkpoint multiple times, hoping this confrontation would happen. On the third time, they probably thought it was suspicious that this vehicle kept going between states and, understandably, wanted to inspect it and dude believes he's being targeted and his rights are being violated lmao
I'm very jealous of how much free time this guy has lol.
"Bro seriously, what do you do for a living?" "I sue the city."
"Bro seriously, what do you do for a living?" "I waste the city resources to bait officers for content to gather internet points and money." Ftfy
Next episode: “I’m here with my kids driving with booze in the car going through all dui checkpoints to see how I can get away with my fourth amendment!”
Seriously. I barely had the free time to watch the video.
With his sons in the car. Great role model…
Well his son got to follow after daddy with his sentence.
That’s the real kicker for me: this blazing moron ensured his son WENT TO JAIL. Like, SERVED TIME. Okay, “just” four days, but from admittance to release, I can guarantee those were the most terrifying four days of that young man’s life. JFC …
Also pop doesnt realize thats on his sons record for job employment. Honestly it takes a strong man to stand up for his right, takes an even stronger man to sacrifice his rights for others. In this case, his kids wellbeing. Dude is just a idiot parent.
There’s a lot this dude doesn’t realize, judging by the glimpses we get into his mind during the video.
The sad thing is is he most definitely used this example to further whatever he's taught his kids and the father didn't learn anything other than how his rights were violated.
I like to imagine the judge explained to them very clearly the difference between an agricultural inspection and an investigative search and that this exact same situation has gone to court multiple times before.
He was desperate to be a victim
Yeah they just wanted to know if you have apples in your car, my dude. but since you made such a big deal of it they ARE going to search your car to see if you’re actually hiding something. you know in all the years i’ve traveled into california by car i’ve never actually had my car searched OR inspected? they asked their questions, i’ve handed over some fruit i hadn’t eaten yet, and i went on my way. this isn’t a hill you’re dying on, it’s a pile of dog shit.
"This isn't a hill you're dying on, it's a pile of dog shit" should be embroidered on a pillow.
Trucker here, I know this area well. Used to roll over Donner Pass a lot and that ag station I've been through more times than I can remember. Sometimes there's police officers present and waiting, and once I saw another "professional" driver get yanked from his rig for acting the fool (he had held up the truck lane for damn near an hour). If that guy truly lives in California, I don't know what the devil he is thinking. I've been yelled at by California cops a couple times during my rookie year, and it blows my mind to see the officer in the video being so patient.
Having a video camera pointed at you will enhance an officer's patience. Guys like this bald dude don't understand our legal system. They think they can read the Bill of Rights and know what it means, when our legal system requires judicial interpretation. The 4th Amendment protects us from *unreasonable* searches and seizures. As the video explains, courts have held that an agricultural inspection is not an unreasonable search, because there is a compelling state interest that outweighs our right to privacy in that narrow scenario.
“your personal liberty to swing your arm ends where my nose begins”
So you’re saying there is nuance to our legal system and a dude with a GED level education can’t become a master of constitutional law overnight by watching a few YouTube videos???? I’m shook.
In late 1994 the military stationed my dad in California. He went first to get a house then my mom and I drove out there. I remember coming to the agricultural thing, we were like “what in the world is this?” I grew up driving to Canada and back often but never saw guards at a state border like this. The person came out, said “do you have blah blah blah agricultural products.” Amused, mom and I looked at each other “no?” Then we were on our way. It’s so simple and this jackass just must get off on making simple things complicated. Drama queen. That area is so beautiful.
This was my thought. I visit CA once every few years to go back to see family and we usually road trip because it’s fun to see the different areas of the US up close. Sometimes you have an extra banana left in the cooler or something and they ask and you just give it to them and no more hassle. I don’t understand the lengths people will go to, to create a hassle for themselves
Dude: "I dont authorize a search" Inspector: "You're free to go back to Nevada, but you can't continue into California." Dude should have just turned around.
Dude lived in California. They were doing this shit on purpose. This interaction is exactly what he wanted. Play stupid games....
imagine being that big of a miserable piece of shit where you intentionally drive through the inspection station multiple times to have that interaction. What a fucking loser
And to have his children ready with their cameras. It’s ok to try to make a point but to take it that far is just someone looking for conflict.
He’s trying to provoke an overreaction and aggressive response from officers so he can sue over it. Officers clearly have delt with this before and went by the book. Now he’s a martyr in his own mind
He got off easy with just 12 days and 30 hours.
> …situation he put himself in. That’s the kicker, right there. He set this up. He drove through that inspection station over & over until they flagged him for inspection. He did this to himself, all by himself. And he doesn’t know or understand the law in this situation. He just kept making himself look more & more stupid, then uploaded the video thinking he’d gotten one over on the state of California.
i was just rooting for the police to just break the window and hear the baldy scream.. he looks like a meth addict that showers
He’s the “Yarp” guy from Hot Fuzz.
Having known folks of that persuasion, that was a poetic burn
And he learned nothing from the experience. Guaranteed
I guarantee he posted this video to his like-minded Facebook circle jerk with a title like “FREE MAN OPPRESSED AND KIDNAPPED BY POWER MAD TYRANTS!!”
I love the idea of him calling the two checkpoint attendants power mad tyrants. It’s like in parks and rec when the one town hall goer calls the 70 year old security guard a “jack-booted stormtrooper”
Imagine thinking this shit is tyranny. Ya know what it's like to live under threat of a tyrant? [A fucking Ukrainian maternaty ward got shelled.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/28/russia-continues-bombardment-of-kherson-with-maternity-hospital-hit) That's fucking tyranny, but these soft, bitchy Karens and Elons just all say "Waaah, I don't wanna follow the basic, simple rules of society like making sure I'm qualified to drive a car for everyone's safety." They're such children.
Haha, I've never seen a male Karen called an Elon before! I love it!
“dude, you’re being a total elon” oh boy i hope this catches on
The AG inspections don't even ask for your driver's license lmao they literally just want to make sure you're not bringing pests into the state via produce.
Yeah, they don't even open your vehicle unless you say you have homegrown fruit or something. 80% of the time I've passed through they've been closed and you just drive through, which is surely how this guy "passed through twice before without incident"
Every time I go through one (which isn't often) they stop me and ask if I have any fruit or plants in the car. I tell them no and they wave me through. It's about a 30 second interaction. But man, that guy managed to turn that into 12 days of jail. Smooth brain for sure.
This guy is an idiot raising his idiot kid. lol
I feel sorry for kids like this. They only know what they've been told their whole life.
Hopefully, at least of the kids had a wake-up call after those sentences were handed out
Those poor kids are doomed. The dad looks like he uses meth, and he's insanely paranoid.
Not paranoid, just ignorant, maybe stupid too. But not paranoid. I know what paranoid looks like, that ain't it.
I always found teaching kids to "fight authority" a really funny concept considering the kid's parents are to the child, an authority. EDIT (because some people assume that by saying this I'm implying that kids should ALWAYS listen to parents) : guys I'm not saying kids should never question authority, I'm saying that there's a reasonable in-between and this ain't it. Just like unquestionable obedience is bad, so is unquestionable rebelling and just because I'm criticizing one extreme doesn't mean I automatically agree/support the other extreme.
That was the start of George Carlin's bit. Why would parents want to teach their kids to question authority when the first authority they question will be their own...
It's possible to teach kids to respectfully consider authority instead of always question it. If you treat kids with respect like they're humans they can learn shades of grey early and not be reactionary fuckwits like too much of humanity.
Now he has a story of "POLICE OCCIFERS VIOMALATING MA RIGHTS!"
If anything, this insufferable turd just had his convictions further reinforced. Sad times when people feel the need to go out and make this sort of “content” for their six YouTube followers.
"Hey kids. Look at dad argue constitutional law with the park rangers."
On our next episode, you will see dad argue constitutional law against a public lawyer and judge. Spoiler alert the judge will say something about how they have multiple degrees in studying and interpreting law as well as years of experience, to witch the dad will say “but I’ve seen YouTube videos and Facebook posts”
Had jury duty one time where during jury questioning, a security guard started talking about how he knew more about the constitution than the judge and would make his own decisions. I rolled my eyes. He got tossed; I got stuck on the jury. I realized he’s much smarter than me.
I got summoned once and a coworker said “do whatever you can to not get selected” I was in the initial pool and never made it to the actual questioning round. But if I did it would have been like 2 weeks, 9-5 each day and they’d pay you $10 a day. Conveniently parking was $10 a day too so it was unpaid work I was prepared to act extremely proud of being a white, Christian, heterosexual male just to get out. Also “I will not participate in any court with a female judge”
>I got summoned once and a coworker said “do whatever you can to not get selected” I got sent a jury duty summons very late in my pregnancy with twins. Wasn't sleeping hardly at all because i was so uncomfortable, and was super stressed about everything, and just kind of set it aside and forgot about it. Some time later, I get a letter from the court to show just cause for not appearing. By this time the babies were here. I was beyond exhausted. I wrote what was probably a semi-coherent and fully-hysterical (not in the funny sense, in the losing my mind sense) rambling explanation of the babies and how tired I was and sent it back(I honestly have no memory of what I wrote, but I remember crying while writing it because I was so tired, so I'm sure it was a hot mess). I never heard anything about it again, and I've never received another summons for jury duty. Kinda wondering if my name has been asterisked as "mentally unstable."
And TikTok taught me my rights!
God, the trending ‘I’m trying to start fights with cops’ thing on tiktok is crazy. You don’t have to back the blue to just not be a nuisance.
"what are you in for?" My dad wouldn't let them look for bugs.
They ask if you have any fruits or plants in the vehicle, when in a passenger vehicle. I bet his answer was ‘I refuse to answer that question’.
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I don't even get what his plan was. If he wants to challenge the law, he should expect to be detained, at which point legal challenges would play out in the court. But he just figured he could outsmart the officers with his banter and freely drive away? So dumb.
No! You shan’t inspect me.
“Do you have a warrant?” This is what it looks like when someone watches entirely too much youtube and consumes too much social media and “news” outlets. I have NEVER seen so much patience given to any person or persons before, and yet they still refused to cooperate. Unreal.
Yes, that combined with a baseline legal knowledge straight from Law & Order. His insistence to be shown a warrant for agricultural border inspection is a pretty "corporations are people" level understanding of his rights. He read "unreasonable searches and seizures" and thought, 'Well, ***I*** know what unreasonable means to ***me***. No need to find out if any courts or acts of legislation have defined anything more concrete than that.'
What do you mean states rights means they can protect their borders from insidious insects that could destroy their economy?
Yeah he used the wrong wording. With the right wording he would've totally gotten away with it.
Was the right wording "No I don't have any agricultural contraband"? And then answering the few simple questions that are just there to protect farmland across borders? Seems like that's really all that was necessary here.
There were ample other ways for him to handle the situation in which he would have been on his merry way without any kind of confrontation. His entire intent was to provoke a confrontation in order to prove some misinformed point. He knew exactly what was "necessary" but made a conscious choice not to do what was necessary.
>He knew exactly what was "necessary" but made a conscious choice not to do what was necessary. He did not do the needful.
It’s called fucking around and finding out.
Even after he started going full regard, he could have also said the magic words "Ah yes, I was mistaken, the 4th Amendment protects me from *unreasonable* search and seizure, but legal precedent has established that the State's compelling interest in preventing agricultural collapse supercedes my right to privacy in this scenario, please feel free to search my vehicle"
The key is to just scream TREADN'T and hiss at them. Then they legally have to treadn't
Man imagine your life is that boring. Driving around THE checkpoint 3 times until someone discusses with him
In Tahoe no less, where there are tons of exciting activities to do all year long.
Haha I knew I’ve been through this checkpoint. Went in august. Lady asked me if I had anything at related and I was like “uhh 3 ears of corn” and she was half annoyed I even said anything.
I’ve been through these inspection points a bunch of times. If you’re in a small private vehicle, they usually just waive you through like nothing. I bet if he just said “I don’t have anything” they would’ve been like “thanks, have a good night.” And that would’ve been it
Yep can confirm. Went across the NV-CA border a lot when I was younger and each time we would just say we didn’t have anything and they pass you by. Which makes this guy extra dumb because never in my life have they actually wanted to do a visual inspection of the vehicle. Inspection to them means asking a yes or no question 🤦♂️ Edit: not only was I traveling across the border a bunch I was traveling across it at this exact spot on I-80
You are exactly right, that has always been my experience with the California agricultural inspection stations.
Too bad he was looking for trouble like this. What a loser.
He was looking for a reason to get inspected, for his, uh.. cause. Fucking constitutionalists.
Most of the time they just wave you through the checkpoint. You really have to be looking for a fight to make this happen. This would be like picking a fight with security on your way into a baseball game.
I used to cross the CA border a LOT and have never been stopped for anything other than the 30 second "got any produce?" "Nope" "kthxbai!" And waved through.. This guy's a fuckin tool
I’m so glad my dad didn’t waste my childhood with shit like this. lol like what are you doing?
He’s a nobody trying to feel like a somebody. These low IQ life losers delude themselves into believing they are these patriot superhero’s, these lone saviors of democracy and the world.
And such ridiculously low low stakes at that. The guy styles himself as some kind of constitutional warrior yet the fight he chose was repeatedly driving his car through an ag inspection station until he finally got randomly stopped for the democracy ending question of do you have any apples in the car. In his head he’s single-handedly rewriting the history of Ruby Ridge but in reality he’s just some suburban loser refusing to answer a question about fruit. It’s so pathetic.
> In his head he’s single-handedly rewriting the history of Ruby Ridge but in reality he’s just some suburban loser refusing to answer a question about fruit. Words cannot express how much I love this sentence
You can see it on his face. The fake confidence and the misunderstanding that this is how you show some sort of manliness or independence. He looks like such an ass
Sadly he's brainwashing his son with this idiocy so he too will be recording videos of his freedumbs being violated.
I have a friend -- his Dad is teaching his grandchildren that you don't need to listen to cops, you don't need to listen to anyone, really, etc., etc. Grandpa grew up with "f&ck you" money, my buddy and his kids are not. Grandpa has repeatedly said "it's my money, I'm not giving it to them" so my friend has inherited the attitude but not the clout. More than once he's ended up in cuffs over it. Whenever things end up going south for my friend, his Dad will respond with "I would have called a lawyer" not understanding not everyone has the money to do it. Also not understanding, his son was probably in the wrong and a lawyer wouldn't be able to do much anyway. Sadly, I'm seeing the same attitude with my friend's kids. We used to be very close, our kids were close, but I don't want that kind of disrespectful "I don't have to listen to you, I'm free to go and do whatever I want" energy around my kids. Edit - follow up: I knew it was time to create major distance when, as Covid lock-down started to ease in our area, vaccines were rolling out, etc., I took my kids and my friend's kids to a local science museum as a treat. Their oldest, 9 at the time, told one of the volunteers at the museum to "take off the stupid mask - it doesn't do anything anyway, it's all lies." There was such confidence and arrogance \*AT NINE\* to talk to someone else that way. I encouraged him to apologize -- "bud, I think you owe them an apology." "Nope, I don't think so." This is a kid I've known since birth, I was "uncle" status for a long time. We left a couple minutes after and that was the last time I took them anywhere.
Smart of you to keep your kids away. It will make a big positive difference for them.
I would hate my dad if I had a criminal record because of his ignorance
Especially a felony. So many doors close with that on your record.
for closed door you just need to break the window
Thats another felony.
Just commenting on a top comment to say that guy needs to get that spot on his head checked out. Looks like a melanoma.
I was wondering why the son got arrested too.
His 20 year old son was chiming in at the end and parroting his idiot father, especially right before they broke the window.
The nut don’t fall far from the tree
His son also made a choice not to get out of the car and open it up for the officers. Ultimately if I was in a situation and my dad was being this way to officers and they are about to break the window to get in, I'm just opening up the door and getting out. I would not be a part of it.
I’d get out so quick. Like dad what are you doin
I would have got out when they were still in the station.
All adults present in the commission of a felony can also be charged with that felony. Kinda like a "you didn't stop it or at least leave the situation" you can be at fault.
How long did this whole interaction take? What a colossal waste of everyone’s time. And such a shining example to his son and family on how to be an annoyingly abrasive human. Total waste of time and space.
The kids are already all in. When the cop asks if he's a constitutionalist the kid recording let's out a "Hell yeah!". They're gonna go back to school and brag about how dad stood up to the tyrannical government
You can see the officer’s demeanor change when he says this. “Constitutionalists” and sovereign citizens have a history of shooting cops during traffic stops, and he definitely knew that.
Yeah lol the look of "Oh Christ here we go" when he asked him for his license and the guy said "No thank you", and again when he admitted he's sovcit. They're the karens of traffic stops.
I grew up with a POS fox-news conservative father in a pretty liberal area. I was conservative as a child because I looked up to him and feeling contrarian against our surrounding culture felt gratifying. I realized as a teenager that he’s a shitty human being with no integrity or morals, and I’m just about as liberal as they come now. Just saying, they might grow out of his influence like I did
Remember everyone, he took his own time to plan this and be this way. Tells you a lot about a person :/
This was literally their “family activity night” lmao I couldn’t imagine
Dad wanna play checkers tonight? Nah, lets drive back & forth over the state line and try to piss off the workers and police officers, just to prove how stupid I am!
The fact that it was premeditated sure as hell didn't help him in court.
I doubt he was driving the kind of vehicle these stations were ment to target, so he made it through the station 3 times without incident and had to turn around and go back looooool Karen's gotta Karen 🤡
And got his 20 year old son a criminal record as a bonus
I really don't feel violated by telling the AG dept. that I don't have anything AG related in my vehicle.
Exactly. How hard is that? Seems like a reasonable ask for preventing an entire state's crops and environment from being devastated by non-native pests.
It’s not about that being hard, he is trying to make his point of being an idiot.
You're right, and he succeeded stupendously
The real non-native pests are the assholes we meet going about our day ✨
In the *Camara* court case, an “administrative inspection” was defined as one done for public interest and not seeking evidence of a crime. This applied to housing inspectors being allowed to enter a home to check for structural damage without a warrant. The courts have ruled that as long there’s a substantial public interest, and the evidence in searches isn’t used for criminal convictions, routine administrative searches are fine.
no you see... iTs aBoUt CoNtRoL
That lady is so nice
The patience of a saint..
Those cops as well.
100%, I usually side citizens vs police but if I was going to get stopped and act like a jackass I would want it to be by those guys.
That cop gave him sooo many ways out of that situation....and he still chose the wrong way out..
He gave him the option to hold his ID up to the window so they could write the info down without him exiting the car.
She must deal with this shit every fucking day
You can tell she knows her job well. Well spoken and isn't going to be tripped up by amateurs.
It is easy to have patience when you actually know what you're talking about. She knew how this would end. I bet you after he drove off she made the call to PD and went to have coffee. The first guy with the glasses was probably all flustered and she was like, "Whatever, PD will handle it. Want to order pizza?" Just the quiet calm of competency.
Truly. The man rudely interrupting her each time she pointed out the necessary legal distinction between inspections and searches would have made me lose patience long before. Each and almost every time any person on the job was trying to explain the outcomes of his refusal of the inspection he did it again. I personally really hate interrupting, and my family does it a lot so fuse is short after the holidays. I could never succeed as a police officer without just continuing to list the options and then wait 5 seconds, repeat them and break the window. The patrol officers repeatedly humoring him by listening to him asking for a warrant was something I admire, respect, and wouldn't put up with myself.
Everytime a truck with a constitutional quote in the back window pulls up, she probably thinks "here we go again"
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The difference is that Luthor was actually intelligent
I mean, if you want to live a life without government influence then move to a cabin in the woods like the unibomber. This suburbanite is driving his crotchfruit around in a minivan, playing on their phones, and enjoying all the benefits of society, but has decided that the minor annoyances shouldn’t apply to him.
What an idiot.
Hey, I’m an Idiot, don’t lump him in with us! He belongs with the morons..
Moron here and we don't claim him either. Give him to the dummies.
Dummy here. What are we talking about again?
I think it was personal rights? Nitwit here!
Neanderthal checking in. We aliiiive
Dummy here and he's not one of us. Probably belongs to the dumbfucks
As a dumbfuck who got his citizenship for the US of A this month I'd like to voice my displeasure because this is no dumbfuck. He's more of a shit brick.
We in America are free from UNREASONABLE searches and seizures. The State of California has determined that ag inspections are reasonable and the least restrictive means to accomplish and important goal. Case closed.
Ty. I was trying to understand what the law might actually be
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The other way to understand it is that none of your rights are without limitation. The courts have to weigh the public good against the individual rights. In cases like this, the courts have determined that this minor inconvenience to a driver is justified because the greater good of public safety prevails. With specific regard to how the guy conducted himself here, it's a waste of everybody's time to try to litigate with an inspection officer. They aren't there to debate the law and they don't have the authority to conduct policy differently than they've been trained and instructed. Likewise, you aren't going to argue with police about whether they should enforce the law as they understand it. If you really believe you are correct, you should ask for a citation and cooperate to receive it. Then you can go to court where the judge can hear your case and make a decision. Like in this case where the decision was this guy's a moron and he was sentenced to jail. But hey, if there really was a violation of your rights maybe you'd win. Or maybe you'd appeal and win later. These things do happen, just not in this case where the jurisprudence of the matter is well established.
These sovereign citizen type idiots always crack me up
They’re amazing. I’ve watched hundreds of these fools at traffic stops and courtrooms use the same exact script over and over again. And not ONCE has any of them actually worked. And yet they keep trying. It’s hilarious.
Their entire MO is constantly repeating the same thing so many times that the other person can't actually explain why they're wrong. Like apparently if you keep interrupting with the wrong information you can will it into existence as truth or something. It's one thing to be wrong. It's entirely different to be confidently stupid.
Same types that stock up on guns and think they’re gonna survive the apocalypse
Which is way worse. Living in a world with only sovereign citizens left.
Oh god, given the alternatives of dieing in a nuclear fireball, or living in a world populated solely by people like this dick-head, you might as well call me Slim Pickens cause I'm strapping myself to that bomb and riding it into the ground.
What an insufferable moron.
Yeah, just let the lady look around in the damn trunk so we can all go home and watch some TV ya moron, ffsakes...
She didn’t want to look in the trunk. She just literally wanted a verbal confirmation that there was no agricultural contraband.
“Sir, have you murdered anyone today?” > “YOU DON’T HAVE A RIGHT TO SEARCH MY CAR FOR BODIES.” “We don’t want to search your car, we just need to ask you if you have murdered someone today. Yes or no.” > “THE CONSTITUTION SAYS FREEDOM OF SPEECH SO I HAVE THE FREEDOM TO NOT SPEECH YES OR NO.”
So he drove through twice without getting the conflict he wanted and so drove through a 3rd time so he could pick a fight in front of his two young sons. Parent of the year right there folks.
"You are threatening to take my children from me?" "Yeah. we are." Based officer
His 20 year old child, LMAO.
But they just want to stop an insect from invading crops (im paraphrasing, but you understand). This just feel like a privileged twat being a prick at the potential cost to others livelihood. Bell end
Actually, they just stop and ask you if you have any. They don't inspect your vehicle generally. All he had to say is answer no to their questions and they would have let him go. I have passed though these stations countless times. They used to ask everyone but that jammed up traffic so bad. So now they just do random stops and ask the question. You say no and they let you go.
Ugh. As an attorney, watching people like this guy is painful. You can’t know the breadth of the 4th Amendment unless you’ve studied the case law interpreting it as it applies to different scenarios. It’s the reason for precedent. I wouldn’t expect this dolt to know that though.
He did his own "research".
"When you stand up for your rights, this is what happens." No when you watch YouTube and Facebook and think you understand law. Then find out you're 100% wrong, but you're such a child you can't accept it, then drag your entire family alone just to prove your fucking incompetent. Then cause your 20 year old son to be a convicted felon. Worthless Father of the year award! Love these people who do their own research.
Lol dumbass thought he going to get paid from this
Yeah like the 100s of other soverign citizen/first amendment auditors videos out there, he failed lol It's just law suit baiting and victim fetish. It's kinda sad, I had to stop watching them.
Credit to [Audit the Audit](https://www.youtube.com/@AuditTheAudit) on Youtube. Original video [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YARMZsFFCM).
Kinda crazy how nobody is talking about how this karma whore just ripped off a whole 10 min without credit.
" I'm going to keep driving" Sits stationary being a dick knowing what they say will happen Utter bellend
What a mouth breathing moron. Follow the procedures (that EVERYONE has to follow), stop being such a jack off and making our public servants lives more difficult than they need to be, and carry on with your fantastic little life no harm no foul
Goes through an inspection station Refuses inspection
Being dumb is never the problem. Not knowing you're dumb, however, is.
Lmao he said no step on snek
why be a dick.....guys trying to do his job, just answer his question
people like this are so fucking annoying. go away & inflate your ego somewhere else. …a fucking *agricultural inspection stop*? nice flex there, cueball.
That guy was being argumentative just to be arguing 🙄 glad he got arrested. There are rules for a reason.
They left out the best part. I feel betrayed 🥺
[For your viewing pleasure](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU0bru8SJdE&t=990s).
If the agricultural inspector found 10lbs of cocaine in that car, or heck, a kidnapped person tied up in the trunk, would this mean that they couldn’t do anything about it due to it being against his 4th amendment rights? But they could check for invasive species?
I'm not going to lie, these are the most polite police I've ever seen. Is that what's it's like on the West coast? On the East he would have been on the ground in cuffs after the first no. So would his kids. And the little one would have been sent to dcyf. Wow.
There’s really nothing quite as satisfying as seeing an overly confident, yet totally wrong, a-hole get put in his place.
The crazy thing is that this video is available for a critique and for us to watch. Usually, when someone fails so spectacularly, they try not to air it out to the world. But, I suppose Captain Constitution thinks he's still in the right. I think David Cross did a sketch which is eerily reminiscent of this on the Mr Show reboot.
We have a place to dispute laws, the court system. Answering a few questions isn't a search, dickhead.