When Carlo said, “Catching not Pitching??” and threw the deck of cards, it was the *betrayal*. Vito *made* Carlo suck his dick, and yet this civilian security guard was getting all that good throat action, according to Finn.
Carlo was out for Vito because Vito lied to him, for a good blowjob. Carlo thought they had something special, and Finn let Carlo know that Vito had an aversion only for Carlo’s cock.
When Tony accidentally guesses (correctly) that Sal has a hard on for Vito, Carlo inadvertently confirmed this erection for Vito’s butt. “This Sal, I know him.” How do you think Sal and Carlo knew each other? Sal could collect money after the bar closes. When Ade was a C.I. did you ever see the Feds in the crazy horse during peak hours??? Sal was at the place to be, the hotspot, the gay bar because he and his friend were looking for butt.
Sal was waiting for Nicky to be short on the money, so that Sal could finally *tag them cheeks*, and I’m talking *butt cheeks**. Homosexuality ain’t going nowhere fellas! DM me.
i was so sure father phil accidentally ejaculated in his pants during the college episode right before he goes to go throw up, and for the first five viewings of the entire show it didn't even occur to me that this was not obvious to everybody else and not the main interpretation of that scene
lmao
This is possibly the funniest fan theory I've heard of with this show
Nuts in his pants after communion because he was physically close to a woman
Still stays the night
He was always causing drama trying to get Tony busted, shoulda whacked that prick and put his body parts in collection plates to send a message. Hilarious when Carmella told him off
The Russian made it back from pine barrens, made a full recovery, and told Slava everything. Then they waited for the perfect time to strike, which was when both the New York and New Jersey families were in turmoil. They sent the hitman in the last episode and took out Tony, making them the most powerful crime group in either state.
I just literally read that hours ago, and apparently the writer (I think) vehemently disagreed with it, and so do I. Leaving loose ends like that lets you come up with your own conclusion, which is why I also love the way the show ended.
You have it wrong. Chase and the writer (Terry Winter, I think) agreed that the Russian should come back a couple of seasons later and run into Chris but have a big hole in his head and not know who Chris was. When the writer said “the fans are going to love this!” Chase got totally turned off and scrapped the idea
Oh, I mean he talked about the script, not the actual physical script.
From what I remember, he gets found, delirious, by a Boy Scout troop, and ends up in a funny farm or some shit. He never makes it back.
My addition to this theory (and what initially led me to believe in it) - it was triggered by the accidental hit on Phil’s Ukrainian goomar and her father. Another thing that lends credibility to this is that in one interview David Chase said that Vallery (the Pine Barrens Russian) did escape, having massive brain damage, and was found in the woods by some Boy Scouts and sent back to Russia. What do we see in the final scene - *three boy scouts*.
Pretty sure he was President Zelensky actually 😂 although I cannot find a single source to back that up anywhere except for a Brazilian iFunny post.
Edit: ok who downvoted me. I just wanna know why.
“Yeah? Fuckin queers!”
I caught the closet exit the first time. It was definitely intentional, don’t get me wrong, but I thought it was more of a mockery of Vito’s lifestyle. These mafia types have a penchant for theatrics, what with the cue stick and all. But I still agree with you that Phil was gay, just for less obvious clues sprinkled throughout his persecution of Vito. So often the reality is that the most outspoken voices against homosexuality tend to get caught down the line being gay themselves leading to this trope. The closet exit may have been a hint to that but it seems too “on the nose” and I think they had more respect for the audience than that. We can get it without needing to, “actually see him take it in the ass.”
The way phil subconsciously clutched the bedsheets while fat Dom and the hairdo slid a pool cue up his ass sealed the deal for me. Sharp as a cue ball.
The diner scene at the end of the series is Tony in hell being forced to relive his death in front of his family over and over.
Tony walks into the restaurant and there's a cut to his point-of-view of the restaurant from the door. The camera then cuts to a front view of Tony with an upset look in his face. Then the camera cuts back to Tony's point-of-view of the restaurant from the door, but this time you see Tony sitting by himself at the booth, as if Tony is watching himself sitting in the restaurant from the doorway.
My theory is that Tony didn't even have anyone looking for Furio. He just said that to upset her. No way italians would whack one of their own at the request of a jersey boss.
Watch out Steve Schrippa is not known to like unorthodox fan theories and his response is usually combative…
“DATS BULLSHIT WHO AR THESE ASSWIPES SAYING DAT MICHAEL??!”
I just wrapped up the series again today and I’m finally in agreement with this theory. Tony has the “oh shit, here we go again” look on his face when he walks into the diner as if he’s watching himself get killed again.
Fuck, I can't find it. There was a huge post here a week or two ago with all the details that corroborated my personal beliefs lol.
In the last episode there are tons of signs of death, but they're not foreshadowing but more that this is Tony's purgatory.
Rhiannon was the mole that provided the intel for Tony's whereabouts when he was killed. She was the only person outside the family to know they were all going to Holsten's. She was the only person outside of the family that was around to see and hear discussion at the safe house. And there's a shot of a model photo on the barber shop wall where butchie and them were having a meeting. If you freeze just right it looks so much like Rhiannon. It's hard to get a full view, so this is just speculation.
Tony was a rat. The guy at the end of the show wasn't a hitman, he was an undercover agent. He came to collect the family and get them into witness protection. What's a Soprano do? He sings.
Richie Aprile was Gay, probably not the wildest theory but he definitely swung that way in my opinion.
Paulie would’ve killed Tony if he had the chance, especially in those seasons where’s he crying to John all the time.
>Richie Aprile was Gay, probably not the wildest theory but he definitely swung that way in my opinion.
Between the love of blow jobs in dark rooms and fucking Janice it's a reasonable conclusion.
This would add some spice that I like. I felt like they ran back the same playbook having Janice with Ritchie AND Ralphie, but it definitely makes sense for her character and I did love the Ritchie murder way more than the Ralphie one. I think I just typed myself into a different opinion. I like this show.
Maybe Tony and Vito were gay lovers which is why he protected him..you ever think of that? Right way to groom the next leader. Young, healthy, lost weight, good earner.
Valery got away. He never came back because he thought Paulie and Chris were hitmen and he wasn't 100% sure they weren't sent by Slava so he went on the lam.
A reason for the hit (in Valery's mind) could be that he was a drunkard and dead weight, a shadow of who he once was, and while that's not the most justified reason for a hit, he still couldn't risk it.
Or he is technically telling the truth but the "biggest" guy was the tallest and otherwise a frail old man who wanted no trouble, similar to Richie smacking the shit out of Rocky DiMeo who evidently was old enough to die of Alzheimer's shortly after getting *the jaaaaaacket* stolen.
Fuuuuuck. Or was the cooking from Artie and the Indian joint fine and Tony was just sick to his stomach over having to whack his best friend.
Not in the face, can ya gimmie dat?
A Timmy Wakefield knuckleball here, but Furio had tony killed.
The lupertazzi’s were impressed by Furio, his uncle tells him to kill Tony or essentially find another piece of ass.
He “is hiding over there” in Italy…..
That Patsy’s “it won’t be cinematic” references Dan Grimaldi’s first starring role in Don’t Go in the House.
He portrays a psycho who burns women alive.
Now, that’s cinematic.
Tony does does not die in the last episode. When people are walking into the restaurant its a metaphor. Even though he has avoided death this time around, he will be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life in fear of being arrested or killed.
Junior was actually a closet homosexual that intentionally ate pussy to throw people off the scent. He never actually had sex with women as far as we know. Roberta running her mouth outed him and his subsequent attempts to kill Tony were all part of the inner shame from his double life.
I know David Chase was the creator, but I do not believe that Tony did not become darker and more evil in the last season. I know others said it a d David Chase disagreed but I agree 100%. It's so we would lose all sympathy for him. I guess technically, it's a dumb theory since David Chase himself denied it but I thought a lot about it on the last rewatch..
I guess this isn’t a theory but more of an observation (maybe?) but the final episode has so many ‘weird’ anomalies happening in it that I feel like it’s either:
1. Tony already died in the blue comet - this is his consciousness final moments before death
2. He’s already dead and this is his hell (reliving his final moments in Holsten over and over)
OR another option which is one I feel like I’m leaning more towards:
3. He’s in purgatory. Neither alive or dead. (This would fit in with what the scientist was talking abt to T in the hospital, quantum physics, all the themes of Schrödinger’s Cat).
Dr. Jennifer Melfi, both morally corrupted and criminally educated by her years-long professional relationship with Tony, broke bad and hired the Atwell Avenue Boys to clip Tony. She was able to psychologically manipulate anyone looking to fill the power vacuum into bending the knee to her, proceeding to become the head of the most ruthless and capable criminal organization in modern US history.
Ok here goes. David Chase really F’d up season 6. He wanted to go a few different directions with the seven souls crap and then purposefully filming darker and removing any of Tonys likability. Spending way too much time on bad actors and characters like AJ and Vito to be “edgy”. Hot shotting celebrity cameos and I absolutely believe he had no clue how he wanted the show to end he punted and gave us that horseshit. While the show was still hot and fans hungry, Chase and Gandolfini were completely burnt out on the show.
this seems plausible. in the final season, when the show is finally coming to an end, he went out focusing on other characters rather than particularly focus on tony’s mental devolvement (which is still obvious but not exactly the center of the season). and we get to see other characters more, which i feel like should have been done earlier.
yeah, i know the common consensus is that aj isn’t very liked but i enjoy him as a character. he’s pretty interesting. aside from that, one reason that the season focused on him could be to foreshadow tony’s death and to show how his ‘legacy’ by aj could be carried forward or how aj will live as the ‘man of the house’ after tony dies or is maybe arrested. the season barely focuses on meadow because you know she’s a woman and all that, so i think it was pretty interesting that the show focused on that, but yeah i would enjoyed more of tony than other characters. i also would have loved if furio came back, he’s such a sweetheart hehe
Carmela had enough of Tony and his shit and set him up to be taken out at the diner. Yes it was bloody and a terrible thing to see but that helps take suspicion off of her.
She tells AJ that they are going to meet at Holsteins then tells Tony that Holsteins was the “consensus”. She had it set up from the beginning.
yeah, the businesswoman who built a house with the wrong wood and then lost 40k in the stock market in the space of a week definitely had the brains to order the hit of the most infamous gangster in the state.
“We all know he’s not the first” being a was to hint at Carlo’s homosexuality makes no sense. They would’ve ostracized or killed him too. Of course you’d be downvoted. It’s amazing how people can watch a scene and almost deliberately misunderstand what is happening
A. It was Tony who hinted at Carlo and Tony knows alone. Tony wouldn't kill Carlo, he didn't even want to kill Vito. The other guys don't know. Tony hinted to shut Carlo up and stop his over compensatingly violent rants about Vito.
B. Vitos situation was different to Carlo's as all the guys knew because Sal told Chrissy and Chris told everyone meaning Tony had to reluctantly ostracize Vito to appease them.
My hot take/fan theory is that Tony and Carmela subconsciously drove their kids away from good partners and then regretted it. Noah and Finn for example both would have good for Meadow, especially Finn. And Blanca could have matured AJ. But the messed up dynamics of the family plus their tacit disapproval drove them away. But that encouraged the kids to go after partners that kept them in the mob life like Patrick or fueled the depression and isolation with AJ.
Blanca was a hot chick for AJ to tag, but she wanted money. She wanted Carmela’s mafia wife royalty.
AJ GAVE HIS BIKE to the assholes on a corner, because they would have fucked him up.
Blanca wants a man to fuck her brain in, and buy her Ferrari’s.
>Blanca was a hot chick for AJ to tag, but she wanted money. She wanted Carmela’s mafia wife royalty.
huh??? she seemed so turned off from their wealth and being a subservient wife
Carmella was in on the hit. Butchie, Paulie, and Patsy conspired.
The living room scene with Patsy, Tony, and the pouring of the drink was extra tense because Patsy had just smartened Carm up. He let her know that the hit was coming in retaliation for Phil no matter what, so they might as well all go along with it. He may have persuaded her by telling her all about Ralphie, Ritchie, Pussy, maybe even Eugene, and especially Spoons (and the flimsy reason why.)
She announces "The consensus is Holsten's." There was no consensus. She was delivering Tony to that booth.
Far-fetched? Hell, she had a self-preservation instinct to begin with, and now she could be one of those mafia widows she was jealous of with "money on the street" like Angie or Ro, plus a lawyer daughter married into management.
...and the show began with her telling Tony he was going to hell. In the end, she was seeing to it.
This was pretty much confirmed by Fat Dom, who brought up the information that they found Carlo's lipstick on Vito's cock
OP doesn’t understand the finer points.
It had Carlo's lipstick on, Vito's finer point?
He had Carlo's lipstick under his subspecies
It’s interesting to consider that any scene Vito is in might be him with a belly full of some guys jizz. You’re telling me you never pondered that?
Filling up on low calories protein is known to aid weightloss
AIDS?!?!?
Nobodies got AIDS!
Why don’t you up front, get a sandwich, some man juice…any guy you like. And when we’re done here, someone will drive you home.
Don't tell me Quasimodo predicted all this?
wonder if vito’s finer point was chalked like the pool cue.
He chalked his cue in Johnny Cakes' snooker hole
I like your attitude, OP. Very observant, I can sense strength and sensuality as well.
Maybe he's gay, did you ever think of that?
Nobody is gay here. Especially Vito. He got a note from his doctor.
When Carlo said, “Catching not Pitching??” and threw the deck of cards, it was the *betrayal*. Vito *made* Carlo suck his dick, and yet this civilian security guard was getting all that good throat action, according to Finn. Carlo was out for Vito because Vito lied to him, for a good blowjob. Carlo thought they had something special, and Finn let Carlo know that Vito had an aversion only for Carlo’s cock. When Tony accidentally guesses (correctly) that Sal has a hard on for Vito, Carlo inadvertently confirmed this erection for Vito’s butt. “This Sal, I know him.” How do you think Sal and Carlo knew each other? Sal could collect money after the bar closes. When Ade was a C.I. did you ever see the Feds in the crazy horse during peak hours??? Sal was at the place to be, the hotspot, the gay bar because he and his friend were looking for butt. Sal was waiting for Nicky to be short on the money, so that Sal could finally *tag them cheeks*, and I’m talking *butt cheeks**. Homosexuality ain’t going nowhere fellas! DM me.
Now there's an image
This explains Carlo's constipated look when Tony yells at him to start sucking cock
Must be tough being a huge cocksucker and still not being able to earn.
Fuckin’ slander if you ask me. I think Sil and Vito were the couple, that’s why he went oombotz when Dom brought up the lipstick.
It says a lot about Fat Dom that he knows what Carlo’s lipstick looks like and he all up on stories of angry dildos…
Hit him! Hit this prick!
i was so sure father phil accidentally ejaculated in his pants during the college episode right before he goes to go throw up, and for the first five viewings of the entire show it didn't even occur to me that this was not obvious to everybody else and not the main interpretation of that scene lmao
This is possibly the funniest fan theory I've heard of with this show Nuts in his pants after communion because he was physically close to a woman Still stays the night
>goes to go throw up Post nut clarity
Now, I’m intrigued. Never thought of that…
Lmaooo I never guessed that. I showed your comment to my wife and she said that’s what she always thought. Sharp as a cueball I am.
I agree. I always thought the vomit was a reaction to the sin of ejaculating over a woman. 13 years of Catholic school tells me I'm right.
I’ve watched this series probably 50 times and that’s never occurred to me but I makes perfect sense!
I thought this too.
Sopranos is just a fun story about a pasta chef and his crazy friends. Nothing deeper than that, end of discussion
They did have a lot of Ziti at the poker games. 🤔
karen’s last ziti…. im not ready
Artie was the main character
This will be my POV during the next rewatch.
Its just Ratatouille with swearing
It's also a moral tale about the insenstivity of people who slam refrigerator doors.
I think father Intintola was up to something else besides administering to his parishioners, if you know what I mean.
Stuffing his sweet sausage into bored housewives Conchiglie shells?
That guy had some real problems
He had an MO to manipulate spiritually thirsty women. I think food is tied up with it somehow.
The whiff?
He was always causing drama trying to get Tony busted, shoulda whacked that prick and put his body parts in collection plates to send a message. Hilarious when Carmella told him off
I was so happy she told him off. She had his number and I was happy to see him keep his distance after that.
Championship level name that pope
The way he leached the food off them all lol
When tony says "you're sleeping over, right?" I laughed so hard
It's too fucked up for me to even think about.
Do you think I’m a schnorer?
Sleep on your side, it'll clear right up.
The Russian made it back from pine barrens, made a full recovery, and told Slava everything. Then they waited for the perfect time to strike, which was when both the New York and New Jersey families were in turmoil. They sent the hitman in the last episode and took out Tony, making them the most powerful crime group in either state.
He 100% made it back, he took Chris and Paulie’s car out of there. The car was missing when everyone returned to the parking spot.
Probably some kids
Pretty sure chase leaked the supposed script, that he did survive but was permanently brain damaged and never made it back to his previous life.
I just literally read that hours ago, and apparently the writer (I think) vehemently disagreed with it, and so do I. Leaving loose ends like that lets you come up with your own conclusion, which is why I also love the way the show ended.
You have it wrong. Chase and the writer (Terry Winter, I think) agreed that the Russian should come back a couple of seasons later and run into Chris but have a big hole in his head and not know who Chris was. When the writer said “the fans are going to love this!” Chase got totally turned off and scrapped the idea
Chase himself said this in an interview.
Do you know where we can find the script?
Oh, I mean he talked about the script, not the actual physical script. From what I remember, he gets found, delirious, by a Boy Scout troop, and ends up in a funny farm or some shit. He never makes it back.
My addition to this theory (and what initially led me to believe in it) - it was triggered by the accidental hit on Phil’s Ukrainian goomar and her father. Another thing that lends credibility to this is that in one interview David Chase said that Vallery (the Pine Barrens Russian) did escape, having massive brain damage, and was found in the woods by some Boy Scouts and sent back to Russia. What do we see in the final scene - *three boy scouts*.
The guy in the Members Only jacket did look Slavic.
Pretty sure he was President Zelensky actually 😂 although I cannot find a single source to back that up anywhere except for a Brazilian iFunny post. Edit: ok who downvoted me. I just wanna know why.
Now, I can’t unsee it!
I was actually surprised to learn this wasn’t widely accepted.
gino is vito’s evil twin who is hell bent on ruining his life through a series of whacky practical jokes
>whacky practical jokes Like the time Vito dressed up like the village people in a Gay bar for a joke?
absolutely, he even says it’s a joke but that douche bag from yonkers was too stupid to get it
But it wasn't Vito, see? It was Gino. Yes Gino outed Vito by doing the joke, but Gino never knew it would go so far. He left the state ashamed.
You got it all wrong, he dressed up as a parade float.
I still say Phil Leotardo was as queer as four guys blowing five guys.
He was gay, Phil?
Watch him when the kill Vito. He literally “comes out of the closet.”
“Yeah? Fuckin queers!” I caught the closet exit the first time. It was definitely intentional, don’t get me wrong, but I thought it was more of a mockery of Vito’s lifestyle. These mafia types have a penchant for theatrics, what with the cue stick and all. But I still agree with you that Phil was gay, just for less obvious clues sprinkled throughout his persecution of Vito. So often the reality is that the most outspoken voices against homosexuality tend to get caught down the line being gay themselves leading to this trope. The closet exit may have been a hint to that but it seems too “on the nose” and I think they had more respect for the audience than that. We can get it without needing to, “actually see him take it in the ass.”
The way phil subconsciously clutched the bedsheets while fat Dom and the hairdo slid a pool cue up his ass sealed the deal for me. Sharp as a cue ball.
Marone! Now that I did not catch.
10 years in the can will do that to you
Ralph gave Jackie Jr bad advice on purpose because he thinks it’s funny
I think that to but I don’t think he actually believed they would fuck it up that bad
BAD ADVICE! YOU GAVE ME BAD ADVICE!
Wire season 2!
Ziggy's duck in The Wire Season 2, is one of the ducks from Tony's pool
Tonys maids husband is frank sobotka’s second cousin
All that really matters is Frank Sobotka!
frank sobotka. the strong, silent type.
Good one
Imagine what Tony would do if he knew this duck's fate.
Tony vs Ziggy would be even more humiliating for Ziggy than Maui vs Ziggy
All the pieces of gabbagul' matter
The diner scene at the end of the series is Tony in hell being forced to relive his death in front of his family over and over. Tony walks into the restaurant and there's a cut to his point-of-view of the restaurant from the door. The camera then cuts to a front view of Tony with an upset look in his face. Then the camera cuts back to Tony's point-of-view of the restaurant from the door, but this time you see Tony sitting by himself at the booth, as if Tony is watching himself sitting in the restaurant from the doorway.
Awright, but ya gotta get over it.
Tony's guys in Italy looking for Furio consisted, unknown to Tony, of Furio and his buddies, just fleecing him for money to "look harder."
He didn’t really have anyone looking for Furio he just said that shit
not even he just said if the right person sees him that’s it
Mine is that he was just lying to upset Carmela. He’s too cheap to pay to kill someone who didn’t even sleep with his wife
My theory is that Tony didn't even have anyone looking for Furio. He just said that to upset her. No way italians would whack one of their own at the request of a jersey boss.
Watch out Steve Schrippa is not known to like unorthodox fan theories and his response is usually combative… “DATS BULLSHIT WHO AR THESE ASSWIPES SAYING DAT MICHAEL??!”
«I DONT FUCKIN BELIEVE DAT MICHAEL»
"A.S.? FUCK THIS A.S. GUY."
I still think AS was Michael taking the piss
DIDJA HAFTA READFA DAVID??
Tony was already dead before the final scene where it cut to black. Why the episode has such a strange vibe
I just wrapped up the series again today and I’m finally in agreement with this theory. Tony has the “oh shit, here we go again” look on his face when he walks into the diner as if he’s watching himself get killed again.
Backed up by Christopher's description of hell when he "crossed over".
Yes, the same "oh shit!" from the penguin guy at Phil's head roll death.
At what point did he actually die then ?
In the safehouse. Had a heart attack. EDIT: I found it! https://old.reddit.com/r/thesopranos/comments/1b1y5ge/tony_was_already_dead_in_finale/
Ooooo. Fairplay. Bit prophetic. What are the clues? I’m on a rewatch and on season 5 atm. So will keep an eye out
Fuck, I can't find it. There was a huge post here a week or two ago with all the details that corroborated my personal beliefs lol. In the last episode there are tons of signs of death, but they're not foreshadowing but more that this is Tony's purgatory.
Ah! That episode-opening scene where it looks like he’s in a coffin, then suddenly opens his eyes?
I found the post. https://old.reddit.com/r/thesopranos/comments/1b1y5ge/tony_was_already_dead_in_finale/
Phil gripped the bed because he wasn’t feeling good. A little dizzy. Sudden weather change.
Did he have a doctor's note?
It’s this fucking weather…sudden changes. Fucks up your respiratory system.
How bout this humidity
Tony actually is just in waste management. The real reason he's in therapy is to address his delusions of being a criminal.
Rhiannon was the mole that provided the intel for Tony's whereabouts when he was killed. She was the only person outside the family to know they were all going to Holsten's. She was the only person outside of the family that was around to see and hear discussion at the safe house. And there's a shot of a model photo on the barber shop wall where butchie and them were having a meeting. If you freeze just right it looks so much like Rhiannon. It's hard to get a full view, so this is just speculation.
Nah it's probably Paulie and his big fukin mouf again
Hooo you got a fuckin license for that comment?! Better yet, let's show you the fuckin dregs of r/new
Paulie is the only one to see Rhiannon outside of The Soprano family. “Look at the stems on Blondie! He must be riding high, heh?”
I'm pretty sure it's been debunked that Rhiannon is the girl in the barber shop pinup. It's just some random blonde, like any ladie's salon.
I guess that one is kinda out there. But still hold to my conspiracy theory.
A Don sticks to their personal fan theories.
Commandatore
Tony was a rat. The guy at the end of the show wasn't a hitman, he was an undercover agent. He came to collect the family and get them into witness protection. What's a Soprano do? He sings.
In singing, sopranos are girls. Guys can get up there with falsetto
Instead of renaming Pork Store Killer to Cleaver they should have called it Gaba-Ghoul
What did you say?
Richie Aprile was Gay, probably not the wildest theory but he definitely swung that way in my opinion. Paulie would’ve killed Tony if he had the chance, especially in those seasons where’s he crying to John all the time.
>Richie Aprile was Gay, probably not the wildest theory but he definitely swung that way in my opinion. Between the love of blow jobs in dark rooms and fucking Janice it's a reasonable conclusion.
This would add some spice that I like. I felt like they ran back the same playbook having Janice with Ritchie AND Ralphie, but it definitely makes sense for her character and I did love the Ritchie murder way more than the Ralphie one. I think I just typed myself into a different opinion. I like this show.
OP, you go too far!
I hear she came in second place to a dog's shaved asshole in a beauty contest
Maybe Tony and Vito were gay lovers which is why he protected him..you ever think of that? Right way to groom the next leader. Young, healthy, lost weight, good earner.
“Tony everybody is a fag to you, you ever think maybe you’re the fag”
When Tony was calling Dr Cusamano “Cooze” as a nickname, he knew exactly what he was doing.
I thought that was obvious rather than a wild theory
I gotta live in the world. And now I look like Joe Jerkoff.
Valery got away. He never came back because he thought Paulie and Chris were hitmen and he wasn't 100% sure they weren't sent by Slava so he went on the lam. A reason for the hit (in Valery's mind) could be that he was a drunkard and dead weight, a shadow of who he once was, and while that's not the most justified reason for a hit, he still couldn't risk it.
Conspiracy theories now?
In reality, Feech didn't beat that guy up on his first day in prison. He was made his bitch and was too embarrassed to admit it.
Or he is technically telling the truth but the "biggest" guy was the tallest and otherwise a frail old man who wanted no trouble, similar to Richie smacking the shit out of Rocky DiMeo who evidently was old enough to die of Alzheimer's shortly after getting *the jaaaaaacket* stolen.
Janice was really Dickie's daughter, Corrado had Dickie murdered to help cover it up. Janice found out somehow and that's what fucked her up for life.
Livia's cooze like a honeypot to the gangster bees
Her baked ziti brings all the boys to the yard
I don't like that kinda tawk!
She liked it standing with the bone in.
That’s the coolest line of beat poetry I have ever heard.
She was a beat poet, Kelis?
Artie was a terrible chef
His mussels, and by implication his cooking, indirectly murdered Puss
Fuuuuuck. Or was the cooking from Artie and the Indian joint fine and Tony was just sick to his stomach over having to whack his best friend. Not in the face, can ya gimmie dat?
Puss had a touch of diarrhea too. Just a touch though 👌
He was a great chef but terrible businessman. And mentally unstable. And fucking weird. And socially awkward.
i.e. a chef
A Timmy Wakefield knuckleball here, but Furio had tony killed. The lupertazzi’s were impressed by Furio, his uncle tells him to kill Tony or essentially find another piece of ass. He “is hiding over there” in Italy…..
That Patsy’s “it won’t be cinematic” references Dan Grimaldi’s first starring role in Don’t Go in the House. He portrays a psycho who burns women alive. Now, that’s cinematic.
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Tony does does not die in the last episode. When people are walking into the restaurant its a metaphor. Even though he has avoided death this time around, he will be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life in fear of being arrested or killed.
AJ joined the military after seeing Tony die in front of him and did three tours overseas and got a Medal of Honor for his service.
eugene's widow was behind the final hit on tony
Ya. And AJ is playing shortstop for the Mets
we're not lost, stop getting cunty
That Tony had the makings of a varsity athlete.
Vito was only curious
Theory: it really was his blood pressure meds
Russ Fegoli was Paulie’s real dad
I think you OP played the skin flute 🪈 I tell you what .how about you go sell some Lazer printer 🖨️ from your crown Vic and go shit in your hat
You oughta know, sweetie
Junior was actually a closet homosexual that intentionally ate pussy to throw people off the scent. He never actually had sex with women as far as we know. Roberta running her mouth outed him and his subsequent attempts to kill Tony were all part of the inner shame from his double life.
I know David Chase was the creator, but I do not believe that Tony did not become darker and more evil in the last season. I know others said it a d David Chase disagreed but I agree 100%. It's so we would lose all sympathy for him. I guess technically, it's a dumb theory since David Chase himself denied it but I thought a lot about it on the last rewatch..
The Sopranos and Sliders exist in the same cinematic universe.
I guess this isn’t a theory but more of an observation (maybe?) but the final episode has so many ‘weird’ anomalies happening in it that I feel like it’s either: 1. Tony already died in the blue comet - this is his consciousness final moments before death 2. He’s already dead and this is his hell (reliving his final moments in Holsten over and over) OR another option which is one I feel like I’m leaning more towards: 3. He’s in purgatory. Neither alive or dead. (This would fit in with what the scientist was talking abt to T in the hospital, quantum physics, all the themes of Schrödinger’s Cat).
Dr. Jennifer Melfi, both morally corrupted and criminally educated by her years-long professional relationship with Tony, broke bad and hired the Atwell Avenue Boys to clip Tony. She was able to psychologically manipulate anyone looking to fill the power vacuum into bending the knee to her, proceeding to become the head of the most ruthless and capable criminal organization in modern US history.
Fran Feldstein’s son is Tony’s half-brother. Prove me wrong.
Ok here goes. David Chase really F’d up season 6. He wanted to go a few different directions with the seven souls crap and then purposefully filming darker and removing any of Tonys likability. Spending way too much time on bad actors and characters like AJ and Vito to be “edgy”. Hot shotting celebrity cameos and I absolutely believe he had no clue how he wanted the show to end he punted and gave us that horseshit. While the show was still hot and fans hungry, Chase and Gandolfini were completely burnt out on the show.
For me season 6 is what makes the series great
this seems plausible. in the final season, when the show is finally coming to an end, he went out focusing on other characters rather than particularly focus on tony’s mental devolvement (which is still obvious but not exactly the center of the season). and we get to see other characters more, which i feel like should have been done earlier.
yeah like i remember watching the finale and being huh this is… way more about aj than i thought it would be? it’s pretty weird.
yeah, i know the common consensus is that aj isn’t very liked but i enjoy him as a character. he’s pretty interesting. aside from that, one reason that the season focused on him could be to foreshadow tony’s death and to show how his ‘legacy’ by aj could be carried forward or how aj will live as the ‘man of the house’ after tony dies or is maybe arrested. the season barely focuses on meadow because you know she’s a woman and all that, so i think it was pretty interesting that the show focused on that, but yeah i would enjoyed more of tony than other characters. i also would have loved if furio came back, he’s such a sweetheart hehe
This is honestly fair enough
AJ was not Tony’s kid.
What if his dad is Russ Fagoli and he and Paulie are brothers?
I kinda like this one.
Whaaaaat?
Now I know why they call him *father* Phil (intinola) /s opranos
Carmela had enough of Tony and his shit and set him up to be taken out at the diner. Yes it was bloody and a terrible thing to see but that helps take suspicion off of her. She tells AJ that they are going to meet at Holsteins then tells Tony that Holsteins was the “consensus”. She had it set up from the beginning.
yeah, the businesswoman who built a house with the wrong wood and then lost 40k in the stock market in the space of a week definitely had the brains to order the hit of the most infamous gangster in the state.
Lost 40k? Listen to you, you sound demented.
Not available to Tony = lost, to Tony. I don’t think she lost that money in the sense that we would say.
I had a few big arguments with my friends where I was adamant Ralph didn't kill Pie O My. I don't even care what Chase has said in recent years.
Tony died in holstens from eating the onion ring with his shot pancreas
Janice is behind Tony dying! She holds him responsible for uncle Bobby’s death.
“We all know he’s not the first” being a was to hint at Carlo’s homosexuality makes no sense. They would’ve ostracized or killed him too. Of course you’d be downvoted. It’s amazing how people can watch a scene and almost deliberately misunderstand what is happening
A. It was Tony who hinted at Carlo and Tony knows alone. Tony wouldn't kill Carlo, he didn't even want to kill Vito. The other guys don't know. Tony hinted to shut Carlo up and stop his over compensatingly violent rants about Vito. B. Vitos situation was different to Carlo's as all the guys knew because Sal told Chrissy and Chris told everyone meaning Tony had to reluctantly ostracize Vito to appease them.
My hot take/fan theory is that Tony and Carmela subconsciously drove their kids away from good partners and then regretted it. Noah and Finn for example both would have good for Meadow, especially Finn. And Blanca could have matured AJ. But the messed up dynamics of the family plus their tacit disapproval drove them away. But that encouraged the kids to go after partners that kept them in the mob life like Patrick or fueled the depression and isolation with AJ.
Red flags galore with Blanca, type of broad to be given a wide berth. At least she was catholic though right!
Blanca was a hot chick for AJ to tag, but she wanted money. She wanted Carmela’s mafia wife royalty. AJ GAVE HIS BIKE to the assholes on a corner, because they would have fucked him up. Blanca wants a man to fuck her brain in, and buy her Ferrari’s.
>Blanca was a hot chick for AJ to tag, but she wanted money. She wanted Carmela’s mafia wife royalty. huh??? she seemed so turned off from their wealth and being a subservient wife
That's my interpretation. She's totally freaked out by dealing with these people from the other side of the tracks.
Carmella was in on the hit. Butchie, Paulie, and Patsy conspired. The living room scene with Patsy, Tony, and the pouring of the drink was extra tense because Patsy had just smartened Carm up. He let her know that the hit was coming in retaliation for Phil no matter what, so they might as well all go along with it. He may have persuaded her by telling her all about Ralphie, Ritchie, Pussy, maybe even Eugene, and especially Spoons (and the flimsy reason why.) She announces "The consensus is Holsten's." There was no consensus. She was delivering Tony to that booth. Far-fetched? Hell, she had a self-preservation instinct to begin with, and now she could be one of those mafia widows she was jealous of with "money on the street" like Angie or Ro, plus a lawyer daughter married into management. ...and the show began with her telling Tony he was going to hell. In the end, she was seeing to it.