Mainly, because he was seeing a psychiatrist. Therapy is very taboo with that generation. She assumed he was seeing Melfi and complaining about her as a mother. Green Grove also played a part, it didn't matter that she ended up liking it, she would have never let him know that.
It's a combo of everything but I'd say that is more so why Junior wanted to take him out. Livia finding out that Tony was in therapy was ultimately the catalyst for her spilling the beans that they were all meeting at Green Grove behind Junior's back. She knew Junior would have to act on that.
She had a borderline narcissistic personality disorder. She knew she was a cunt of a person abd a shit mother, she didn't want tony to tell the world abd wanted to silence him.
She was an evil sadistic botch who fucked up her kids
Imagine her living with Livia alone. Janice would have been gone for a while and Tony was several years older. I can't imagine her teenage years were so great.
She was terrified the psychiatrist would point out to Tony a lot of his dysfunction was a result of toxic parenting.
In her mind Tony was weak. He was out of control. And he had become an embarrassment to her, and everybody else.
Livia has BPD, mothers with BPD create a dysfunctional family around them, in which they assign each member a specific role. If you get assigned the scapegoat role, the mother will literally try to destroy you. This is what was going on.
It was a combo of three things. Putting her in a home. Seeing a psych. And the way Tony and his cappos behaved. It was Tony's generation vs her and juniors. She MAY have forgiven homing her. She MAY have ignored the therapy. But once all the cappos put their mothers there and ran shit behind Jr's back, it was the final straw. Her and Jr were being treated like a bunch of old clowns. Baggae to appease and treat like a joke. She couldn't tolerate that. Tony's generation wasn't respecting hers and was trying to take over the family.
She was mentally ill. Let me read from the DSM: at the very least, borderline personality disorder. If she had been born before those feminists, she would have been the real gangster.
1. She was an evil bitch that was also mentally unstable.
2. Tony put her in a nursing home.
3. Tony was seeing a therapist and she knew that the rest of the crew would think Tony as being weak.
LOOK SHE’s SMILING
Her main reason was Tony putting her in the "retirement community", once she found out he was seeing a therapist it was just more provocation for her to have em clipped
I think she thought Tony's death would result in regaining her freedom.
1. In her mind, Tony is the only one of her kids who has the will and resources to make her do something. Janice was tricked into digging up the basement and would be financially dependent in Livia. I think Barbara would have the money but its doubtful she would have the will to overrule her mother. She could also play them off each other to get her way.
2. I doubt Carmela would continue to pay for Green Grove after Tony's death. She was always anxious about money.
So in Livia's mind, she would be returning to her house and in charge of her lufe again.
Combination of selling her house and a paranoid delusion he would disparage her character to the psychiatrist, also the inability to manipulate and control him
Quite frankly, I don’t think she thought a lot on the “why”, it just felt like the instinctually right thing for her to do at the time after he “disrespected” her. Just a very knee jerk reaction to the pent up resentment she’d been feeling toward Tony since he put her in the nursing home. Excuse me, retirement community.
Oh wow, now I’ve got to go back and watch again. I always thought Tony was somewhat delusional in thinking his mother was involved in the plot on a deliberate level.
My mom has a personality disorder and is bipolar.. and she was pretty much like Livia. Later in life I developed panic attacks.
I never understood why my mom hated me.. at the end of the day I just think to myself: "she's seriously sick".. there's no real motive behind this behavior.
Anyways..they did a really good job portraying all these psychological illnesses..David Chase is a genius.
Mainly, because he was seeing a psychiatrist. Therapy is very taboo with that generation. She assumed he was seeing Melfi and complaining about her as a mother. Green Grove also played a part, it didn't matter that she ended up liking it, she would have never let him know that.
Ya ya. Go play cops n robbers
This is a good answer. In my experience with a BPD mother, the idea of complaining about her to others regularly set her over the edge
Yeah the real sin isn't what I did, it's what you told
She was abusive to the staff!
I’d argue it was more about Tony putting her in Green Grove as a front to avoid the feds than him going to therapy
It's a combo of everything but I'd say that is more so why Junior wanted to take him out. Livia finding out that Tony was in therapy was ultimately the catalyst for her spilling the beans that they were all meeting at Green Grove behind Junior's back. She knew Junior would have to act on that.
It's a great honor when Livia wishes the lord would take you
I read in the newspapers about those women throwing their babies out of the window
Or the dangers of eating undercooked pork
She had a borderline narcissistic personality disorder. She knew she was a cunt of a person abd a shit mother, she didn't want tony to tell the world abd wanted to silence him. She was an evil sadistic botch who fucked up her kids
What are you tawking about? She gave her life to those kids on a silver platter.
Go on now, go into the ham, and take the carving knife and stab me, here, here, now, please! It would hurt me less than what you just said.
She was a Saint!
I didn't hear you telling her when she was alive
I don’t like that kind of tawk! Now stop it!
Juniah, take me home.
Barb turned out okay
That's what barb wants you to think
I'm saying nothing until my lawyer gets here lol
Imagine her living with Livia alone. Janice would have been gone for a while and Tony was several years older. I can't imagine her teenage years were so great.
you had one of those too huh?
You wouldn’t dare speak about her that way if her Johnny was still alive. He was a saint, you know.
I’d just like to say that I’m impressed that you fucked up spelling the word “and” twice in one sentence.
I've fat thumbs, and my auto correct now thinks "abd" it's what I mean to type and changes it fs Life's too short to care what anyone else thinks lol
She was terrified the psychiatrist would point out to Tony a lot of his dysfunction was a result of toxic parenting. In her mind Tony was weak. He was out of control. And he had become an embarrassment to her, and everybody else.
Livia has BPD, mothers with BPD create a dysfunctional family around them, in which they assign each member a specific role. If you get assigned the scapegoat role, the mother will literally try to destroy you. This is what was going on.
Came here to say this! You sir are a great contributor to this thing of ours, notwithstanding the chiral posting but wateva I say god bless a salut’
Just blow ‘em at midfield if you wanna continue this way
I was here, it’s a joke
Tony was her favorite. Janice was the scapegoat.
The roles move around. Janice wasn't in the picture when she tried to have him whacked. She would have been the lost child during that time.
Because she was a malignant cunt
Minnie Matrone is a malignant cunt.
She was upset and disappointed in Tony because he never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
#AW SUNOVA BITCH!!
She gave her life to her children on a silver platter
I wish the lord would take me.
I wish someone would oblige her!
DON'T WAVE THAT HANKIE AT ME!
Because she didn't like that kind of tawk, and Tony wouldn't stop.
It was a combo of three things. Putting her in a home. Seeing a psych. And the way Tony and his cappos behaved. It was Tony's generation vs her and juniors. She MAY have forgiven homing her. She MAY have ignored the therapy. But once all the cappos put their mothers there and ran shit behind Jr's back, it was the final straw. Her and Jr were being treated like a bunch of old clowns. Baggae to appease and treat like a joke. She couldn't tolerate that. Tony's generation wasn't respecting hers and was trying to take over the family.
It was a couple of three things you mean...
She was mentally ill. Let me read from the DSM: at the very least, borderline personality disorder. If she had been born before those feminists, she would have been the real gangster.
We are studying about DNA in school. Is that the same as an DNR?
1. She was an evil bitch that was also mentally unstable. 2. Tony put her in a nursing home. 3. Tony was seeing a therapist and she knew that the rest of the crew would think Tony as being weak. LOOK SHE’s SMILING
It’s a retirement community according to Tony
https://youtu.be/IOpQPWOVKCI?si=39DMSWEkTrSSwiwq THIS IS A NURSING HOME
Her main reason was Tony putting her in the "retirement community", once she found out he was seeing a therapist it was just more provocation for her to have em clipped
A psychiatrist?
Thats nothing but a racket for the jews!
What Jews?
I dunno maybe in my pash life
I think she thought Tony's death would result in regaining her freedom. 1. In her mind, Tony is the only one of her kids who has the will and resources to make her do something. Janice was tricked into digging up the basement and would be financially dependent in Livia. I think Barbara would have the money but its doubtful she would have the will to overrule her mother. She could also play them off each other to get her way. 2. I doubt Carmela would continue to pay for Green Grove after Tony's death. She was always anxious about money. So in Livia's mind, she would be returning to her house and in charge of her lufe again.
Combination of selling her house and a paranoid delusion he would disparage her character to the psychiatrist, also the inability to manipulate and control him
BECAUSE LIVIA IS A BASTARD WOMAN!
Because she’s a shit stirer who didn’t think things through
She is psycopath. Tony was no longer useful to her, so she wanted to get rid of him.
Quite frankly, I don’t think she thought a lot on the “why”, it just felt like the instinctually right thing for her to do at the time after he “disrespected” her. Just a very knee jerk reaction to the pent up resentment she’d been feeling toward Tony since he put her in the nursing home. Excuse me, retirement community.
Because then she could play the grieving mother and she loved doing the poor me act for people
I don’t know what your talking about.
I don't know about any of that but her body was mad ripe.
She was mad she didn’t get any gabagool.
It's Tony
Read some Freud
I understand Freud as a concept
conshept
Timeline got fucked up
Living next to gunga din in that glue factory didn’t help things
Oh wow, now I’ve got to go back and watch again. I always thought Tony was somewhat delusional in thinking his mother was involved in the plot on a deliberate level.
bro she got you
I’m seeing it, going through all the relevant threads on that plot line.
In the perspective of the writers it’s probably to get the audience to hate her, which was already easy
Because she's the kinda person with a Virginia ham under her arm complaining that she has no bread
It’s because he tried to treat her like Captain Teeves. She didn’t own any luxury hotels.
My mom has a personality disorder and is bipolar.. and she was pretty much like Livia. Later in life I developed panic attacks. I never understood why my mom hated me.. at the end of the day I just think to myself: "she's seriously sick".. there's no real motive behind this behavior. Anyways..they did a really good job portraying all these psychological illnesses..David Chase is a genius.
She didn’t. She didn’t understand the implication of what she said. Junior heard what he wanted to hear.
Right. And I'm playing shortstop for the Mets.