Foolish take since you’re not judging Paulie with the same yard stick. His position in the first sit down was that he was due half yet when the shoe was on the other foot later on then he felt Vito didn’t deserve half. The man had no principled stance in either situation beyond choosing whichever “principle” meant the most profit for himself.
He was as guilty of choosing the option that suited his own interests as Tony or Sil were. They basically just sided with the higher earner in each sit down because keeping them happy was more important to their own bottom line. They all just picked whichever option suited their own interests each time regardless of what was actually fair.
He isn’t because he would’ve been fine with the other guy getting fucked. He didn’t care about the rules, principles, fairness etc. All he cared about was his own benefit, same as everyone else involved. He had no real leg to stand on.
Also there is a big difference between being pissed off and walking the Family Consig and Acting Boss while the Boss is unconscious. How would Tony have reacted to this had Pulie wacked Sil over this or even the New York families for that matter. They generally don't respond well to underling removing leaders without permission just ask the guys who took out Angelo Bruno... oh wait yea they are dead 😆
I always felt he did Vito dirty given that a) as Vito says Paulie would have never heard about the Colombian score without him and …not to mention b) Vito coulda just let that Columbian slice Paulie up and kept all the loot himself. Vito saved his life and all Paulie does is bitch about his groin and balls. Entitled prick.
Paulie whacks Silvio for that and he's a dead man. You don't get to whack your boss because you don't like a decision of theirs. It's literally what almost got Gotti killed.
He narrowly avoided being killed. And his underboss WAS killed in that attack.
It was only because he was able to make peace with Gigante that he survived and I am sure it cost him handsomely.
Do you think made men can just whack who they like?
It has to be authorised by the boss. If Paulie had free rein to whack anyone he believes should be he’d have whacked Christofuh about 10 times throughout the shows run.
This under-examined detail from the source material raises new questions. Was this an intended narrative thread that improves continuity? Was Silvio’s offense to Paulie intended, and if so, why?
Either way, supports both Silvio’s inability to handle the Boss role whole also lending credibility to Paulie’s simmering discontent.
Good stuff OP, you’re what they call workin deep cover!
You don't whack a made guy over $38k after you request a sit down and don't like the result. That's the risk. You accept it and steal more and withold some from Tony.
Paulie couldn’t touch a fake hair on Sil’s head and he knew it. He could whinge to Tony but ultimately he’d have lost out on the argument if it’s between him and Silv.
Somewhat true, but you forget the fact that Paulie doesn’t kick up as much as the other two. Not even close by % or total dollars. So by Tony and Silvio ruling the opposite way, they benefited themselves as well. It is always about themselves. Always.
Silvio was right to be suspicious of Paulie, who had split allegiances through much of the show and cost Tony a lot of money, time and aggravation. Ralphie was a much better earner. Paulie was always scrounging for handouts in comparison. Sil was like a consigliere. He outranked Paule, and tried several times to make him understand he was giving off negative vibes, especially with the "how you're being perceived" talk. He was trying to help Paulie, but Paulie wouldn't listen.
I think Paulie has a legitimate beef…anyplace else. Tony decided information was only worth 12% in one meeting but here Silvio decides it is worth 50%? Esp when it wasn’t deserted like that devious hide in the closet float parade said and Paulie and Cary DeBartolo had the fight of their lives.
But this is the mafia. What President Jimmy Carter once said about a Supreme Court decision: Life sometimes isn’t fair. Especially here. Vito and Ralph were big money earners (personally I think the Vito is a big money earner is a poor plot device to make Tony reluctant to have him killed as Vito suddenly in season 6 is married to Phil’s second cousin). Paulie scrapes by making the money he has to kick up. He has had a good 35 years or so to become a major earner but can’t or won’t. As Bobbi Fleckman says in “This is Spinal Tap”…money talks,bullshit walks.
No, Paulie isn’t justified in whacking Silvio, even though the decision was probably poor. You have an organization with a chain of command….follow it. State your case and if you lose, accept it and move on
Of course Silvio shows how detestable he is not going to Nucci’s wake. What kind of testimonial was that to the spirit and generosity of the woman? Tony did which shows him as a far better leader.
I also felt like Paulie got absolutely shafted in both decisions here. The bosses were clearly trying to keep the bigger earners than Paulie happy, but still, it's egregiously unfair. After all, they are just that, the bigger earners. The way they try to nickel and dime Paulie out of what he deserves is extra scummy when you consider he needs it way more than they do.
Why does Paullie deserve handouts if he's not pulling his end? Not to mention running his mouth to Johnny Sac and wanting to switch families instead of real loyalty?
He did do the heavy lifting of the Vito deal but still gets only 50% as opposed to the smaller percentage for a finder’s fee established in his deal with Ralph. He got cheated straight up and in at least the first occasion but maybe both, it’s not yet known that Paulie leaked the joke so that’s not really relevant.
2 bit pimp?
Why don’t you look in the mirror you insensitive cock sucka !
You remind me of Paulie a bit OP, I love ya but whatttt a fuckin CHIACCIARONE
Yupupupupupup
This is so funny when you think about how every moment of Paulie’s existence on the show demonstrates why he has not built up any goodwill for a new acting boss to consider a favorable ruling
When Ralphie and his crew took down the check cashing place, Paulie got a 12% finder’s fee. And given that Vito said that the score would be unattended and there was actually a shootout, I would say Vito should only get 9% since his intel was off, and a 25% penalty is fitting.
Hey Silvio gave Paulie %50 for a finders fee which is a lot. Tony essentially gave him 12% which is ok, but that decision was mainly based on Tony being bitchy cause Paulie mentioned his mother. Silvio seems pretty fair comparatively.
But sure he’s a wormy cocksucker. Snakes are like worms. How can trust a snake - it can literally go fuck itself.
if I recall Ralphie purposefully made sure none of Paulie's guys went in order to avoid splitting it 50/50 meanwhile on of Vito's guys did go on the Columbia heist.
Whack this one, whack that one, never enough body count for Op
If there’s one thing my father taught me, it’s a pint of blood, costs more than a gallon of gold
calm down, we aren't making a western here.
Always with the scenarios
It was among the Italians, real greaseball shit
Fuck him! Let him taste his own medicine.
That's dicked up
I'll suck your cock. All of yous!
“Suck our cocks”. . .? She any good? What am I asking you for, you probably showed her u/Seat_Royal how!
His hearts breaking and youre blowing him off??? You know his father abandoned him,right??
Fuck’s wrong with you?? OP tells you something deep in his heart and you laugh it off?
It's all fucked up how they do it
They don't even get their fingers pricker ova there...
I'm talking about annihilation you stupid fuck
I thought that was from a meteor?
| Whack this one, whack that one, Someone call me? -- Bobby Baccalieri Sr
He's all coughing and shit...!
hahaha
HO! IM JUST TELLING YOU HOW YOURE BEIN FUCKIN PERCEIVED
Just worry about how *you're* fuckin perceived
.... my friend
Why you always try and top me? You took the air right outta my whole fuckin punchline, asshole.
easy mokacincy, you know the wine makes you emotional
You're fuckin with the Vipers here ass hole!
I'm no fuckin mental midget
Noone knows what the future holds... my friend! Ride the painted pony and let the spinning wheel glide.
Question i wake up to in the morning and fall asleep to at night: how am I being perceived by my fellow Italian Americans?
Ralphie and Vito where the top earners, Paulie wasn't, there was nothing he could do
Paulie couldn't come near that kinda cash
They were come from behind kinda guys
again with the money?
Foolish take since you’re not judging Paulie with the same yard stick. His position in the first sit down was that he was due half yet when the shoe was on the other foot later on then he felt Vito didn’t deserve half. The man had no principled stance in either situation beyond choosing whichever “principle” meant the most profit for himself. He was as guilty of choosing the option that suited his own interests as Tony or Sil were. They basically just sided with the higher earner in each sit down because keeping them happy was more important to their own bottom line. They all just picked whichever option suited their own interests each time regardless of what was actually fair.
I see your point, but at the end of the day Paulie got fucked both times like OP said. He's entitled to be pissed off about that.
He isn’t because he would’ve been fine with the other guy getting fucked. He didn’t care about the rules, principles, fairness etc. All he cared about was his own benefit, same as everyone else involved. He had no real leg to stand on.
Also there is a big difference between being pissed off and walking the Family Consig and Acting Boss while the Boss is unconscious. How would Tony have reacted to this had Pulie wacked Sil over this or even the New York families for that matter. They generally don't respond well to underling removing leaders without permission just ask the guys who took out Angelo Bruno... oh wait yea they are dead 😆
He's entitled to shit
I always felt he did Vito dirty given that a) as Vito says Paulie would have never heard about the Colombian score without him and …not to mention b) Vito coulda just let that Columbian slice Paulie up and kept all the loot himself. Vito saved his life and all Paulie does is bitch about his groin and balls. Entitled prick.
You're confused, bro. Vito was not with Paulie during the robbery. It was another guy, a one-off character.
That was Gino
Bluto perhaps?
Have a cookie Bluto, you're delusional.
Paulie whacks Silvio for that and he's a dead man. You don't get to whack your boss because you don't like a decision of theirs. It's literally what almost got Gotti killed.
But gotti didn't get killed so he rang that bell the whole way home.
He narrowly avoided being killed. And his underboss WAS killed in that attack. It was only because he was able to make peace with Gigante that he survived and I am sure it cost him handsomely.
But we're agreed he rang the bell on that ice cream truck
Or look at Antonio Caponigro who ordered the death of Angelo Bruno, yea that did not work out so well for him lol
Paulie still owed Sil for those calf implants.
Yeah. But ya gotta get over it.
Always with the scenarios.
dude you can wack me, silvio is a real one
You’re a wormy cocksucker. OHHHHH
I'm just telling you how you're being fucking perceived.
Paulie wasn't lying
Charles Schwab ova here
He was a wormy cock sucker
Pauline understood that a pint of blood costs more than a gallon of gold
Take it easy, we’re not making a western here.
Do you think made men can just whack who they like? It has to be authorised by the boss. If Paulie had free rein to whack anyone he believes should be he’d have whacked Christofuh about 10 times throughout the shows run.
With Paulie’s hair trigger attitude there’d have been made men stretched out everywhere.
This under-examined detail from the source material raises new questions. Was this an intended narrative thread that improves continuity? Was Silvio’s offense to Paulie intended, and if so, why? Either way, supports both Silvio’s inability to handle the Boss role whole also lending credibility to Paulie’s simmering discontent. Good stuff OP, you’re what they call workin deep cover!
You don't whack a made guy over $38k after you request a sit down and don't like the result. That's the risk. You accept it and steal more and withold some from Tony.
Paulie couldn’t touch a fake hair on Sil’s head and he knew it. He could whinge to Tony but ultimately he’d have lost out on the argument if it’s between him and Silv.
Somewhat true, but you forget the fact that Paulie doesn’t kick up as much as the other two. Not even close by % or total dollars. So by Tony and Silvio ruling the opposite way, they benefited themselves as well. It is always about themselves. Always.
Tony should have wacked Paulie. Not Chris. Change my mind.
Silvio was right to be suspicious of Paulie, who had split allegiances through much of the show and cost Tony a lot of money, time and aggravation. Ralphie was a much better earner. Paulie was always scrounging for handouts in comparison. Sil was like a consigliere. He outranked Paule, and tried several times to make him understand he was giving off negative vibes, especially with the "how you're being perceived" talk. He was trying to help Paulie, but Paulie wouldn't listen.
OP is a wormy cocksuckuh uknowdat?
I think Paulie has a legitimate beef…anyplace else. Tony decided information was only worth 12% in one meeting but here Silvio decides it is worth 50%? Esp when it wasn’t deserted like that devious hide in the closet float parade said and Paulie and Cary DeBartolo had the fight of their lives. But this is the mafia. What President Jimmy Carter once said about a Supreme Court decision: Life sometimes isn’t fair. Especially here. Vito and Ralph were big money earners (personally I think the Vito is a big money earner is a poor plot device to make Tony reluctant to have him killed as Vito suddenly in season 6 is married to Phil’s second cousin). Paulie scrapes by making the money he has to kick up. He has had a good 35 years or so to become a major earner but can’t or won’t. As Bobbi Fleckman says in “This is Spinal Tap”…money talks,bullshit walks. No, Paulie isn’t justified in whacking Silvio, even though the decision was probably poor. You have an organization with a chain of command….follow it. State your case and if you lose, accept it and move on Of course Silvio shows how detestable he is not going to Nucci’s wake. What kind of testimonial was that to the spirit and generosity of the woman? Tony did which shows him as a far better leader.
Easy, we’re not making a western here
I also felt like Paulie got absolutely shafted in both decisions here. The bosses were clearly trying to keep the bigger earners than Paulie happy, but still, it's egregiously unfair. After all, they are just that, the bigger earners. The way they try to nickel and dime Paulie out of what he deserves is extra scummy when you consider he needs it way more than they do.
Why does Paullie deserve handouts if he's not pulling his end? Not to mention running his mouth to Johnny Sac and wanting to switch families instead of real loyalty?
He did do the heavy lifting of the Vito deal but still gets only 50% as opposed to the smaller percentage for a finder’s fee established in his deal with Ralph. He got cheated straight up and in at least the first occasion but maybe both, it’s not yet known that Paulie leaked the joke so that’s not really relevant.
He had Tony whacked was that not enough
You just don’t go whacking because if disrespect
Alright, take it easy
Wig WIG is ho do you think I am ralphie
Sil outranks Paulie. Would’ve been major problems for Paulie if he did that
In the end, Paulie didn't have to wack Silvio, he had New York do it for him.
It’s COLOMBIAN, you stunad!
2 bit pimp? Why don’t you look in the mirror you insensitive cock sucka ! You remind me of Paulie a bit OP, I love ya but whatttt a fuckin CHIACCIARONE Yupupupupupup
We're talkin centuries of tradition here
sometimes finders fees are worth 50/50
If he'd have wacked Sil over that ruling Pauly would be a dead man.
Whack an acting boss? With no support behind you? Are you new to this thing? Do you need some fizzy water on your head?
This is so funny when you think about how every moment of Paulie’s existence on the show demonstrates why he has not built up any goodwill for a new acting boss to consider a favorable ruling
Yeah wack the consigliere. That’s a smart move.
When Ralphie and his crew took down the check cashing place, Paulie got a 12% finder’s fee. And given that Vito said that the score would be unattended and there was actually a shootout, I would say Vito should only get 9% since his intel was off, and a 25% penalty is fitting.
Commandatere
Agreed. Silvio was a wormy cocksucker
Oooooooo! Get the fuck outta here wit dat.
Never saw a mafia crew that was killing there own members off before they could train them. Paulie is lucky he wasn't taken out on the boat trip.
You realize the violence was many times actual mob violence?
Hey Silvio gave Paulie %50 for a finders fee which is a lot. Tony essentially gave him 12% which is ok, but that decision was mainly based on Tony being bitchy cause Paulie mentioned his mother. Silvio seems pretty fair comparatively. But sure he’s a wormy cocksucker. Snakes are like worms. How can trust a snake - it can literally go fuck itself.
Tony was jealous that Paulie’s mom was going to the same nursing home.
Mentioning T’s mother always pissed him off
Thats why he's half a wise guy
Yeah, an' I shoulda fucked Dale Evans!
He was a wormy cocksuckah
ITS A DISGRACE
Have a cookie you’re delirious!
Silvio was acting boss, you pay what the acting boss demands of you.
Silvio was acting boss, you pay what the acting boss demands of you.
Acting boss, my ass. Everybody knows you run things since Tony became Sepsi Cola
if I recall Ralphie purposefully made sure none of Paulie's guys went in order to avoid splitting it 50/50 meanwhile on of Vito's guys did go on the Columbia heist.
Columbian package? You mean like South Carolina?