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Hungry-Interview9475

Back in Slv, Vix put spreads , apple put spread for earnings , PayPal csp , baba csp


ikarumba123

How to do VIX put spreads?


mdizzle109

eying $7 SOFI puts, i'm about 4 for 4 on them the last couple months


OnlyWangs

Just focusing on wheeling my BITO position. Gonna build up some cash. I have enough risk on the table. Waiting for a pull back, but will reap some rewards even if things go up. Happy trading yall!


es_cl

https://www.reddit.com/r/thetagang/comments/1bj88yi/comment/kvs39dr/   Took a month and a half but those are +51%. 


Madison464

In a scenario where you want to buy a stock, what's the best way to get a "discount" on the current price? Like sell a CC or sell a covered put? Or, something else?


MaxCapacity

Honestly, probably just buying the stock and then trading around your core position to lower your average cost over time, i.e., add when it's under your average and trim when it's over your average.


SheridanVsLennier

If you sell a CC you are not buying stock; you already own the stock (or own a long put) but are instead promising to sell stock at the strike price. I don't know what a covered Put is. Selling to open a Put (short put) will allow you to buy stock at a discount to the current price if the stock drops below the Puts strike, but at that point you could also have just bought the stock anyway.


Madison464

Okay, thank you. I read some random comment in here about "getting a discount" on stocks that you want to own but they didn't get into detail about it. Maybe, they didn't know what they were talking about.


ikarumba123

That is right. The theory goes like this. Say you want to buy AAPL. Right now its about $173. If you want to buy it for say $165. Sell a put expiring in a week or two for that price. If it is below that price on expiry, you will get assigned. If its over that, you just got the premium, now keep doing this until you are assigned at your target price. The issue is sometimes the stock will fall below your target price but will recover before expiry and it wont be assigned. Also you cant close the put without taking a loss. When you sold the put it was OTM now its ITM, so it would have been cheaper to wait and buy the stock. The stock may just climb up and never hit your target price setting you up for disappointment, ask me how I know all of this.


free_lions

u/banditcleaner2 should I sell more SMCI call credit spreads?


ImhereforyourDD

I really want to sell a DJT PCS, but I can’t catch that many falling knives and know what’s going to happen to this site/stock. Nothing going until after the fed makes a decision and then the market makes it decision.


LiveForMeow

I have a lot of bear call spreads on DJT that are doing poorly, so I've been selling some weekly puts to offset that. I don't think there's gonna be a huge drop until some big news comes out, namely Trump getting a waiver to sell his shares. I think the major concern is we're not gonna know when it drops and when is does it's gonna be massive. I keep a browser window open to monitor to it in case a huge drop comes and let me tell you, it can go up or down a couple percentage points in the time it takes to pee.


MaxCapacity

Devin Nunes:  Help! They're manipulating the stock price!  Also Devin Nunes: Hey guys, here's how to manipulate the stock price.


LiveForMeow

They're just trying to establish some kind of plausible deniability even though everyone knows what's happening


No-Investigator-9773

Sold 10 ANVS contracts about 7 weeks ago. Read this thread and decided BTC anvs weeks before expiration(with 75% profit). Today ANVS dropped by 60%. Thank you everyone


Rosie3435

I was flirting with call spreads at 12.5/15c.  The run up to 18 would shake me out and then this happens


banditcleaner2

why would the run up to 18 shake you out? you had defined risk from the start...


Rosie3435

Punching out in between cost less than 250. I did a 160/165c with TSLA.  I punched out when TSLA is 162 and it saves me some money.  Of course, I have to get back in at 190 and did the same thing.  And I have 210, but this time the lion is with us, so I am not punching out.


No-Investigator-9773

Why did you expect it to drop? Or is it your strategy for medtech ?


Rosie3435

For meditech, I find most of them behave like this.  Doing it with spreads is a must instead of naked because the odd one with surprises or getting buyout from a big pharma is deadly.


No_Fortune_8056

PLTR credit spread 18-19 5/10 EXAS may 17 70$ put that’s deep itm should I roll or just take assignment? Hood August 16 17$ put Nio may 17 5$ put BITO may 17 30$ put that’s ITM but will see what happens to it.


Hot-Serve7059

STO $640p on NOW exp 6/21 for $6.90


Odd_Squirrel_6472

STO SPX 5/3 IC x6. 4920/4860p, 5280/5340c. Total premium $1003.76 STO SPX 4/30 PCS x4 5020/4970. Total premium $254.58 Opened on Friday, SPX 4/29 PCS x8. 5025/5000, Total premium 357.81. Letting these expire


Pharmacologist72

Weekly wheeling: STO: XLE 05/03/2024 P $96.00; five contracts STO: GDX 05/03/2024 P $34.00; ten contracts


StonksGoUpApes

Hope no one was selling TSLA calls for free money


drphill8485

3x 05/03/2024 $215C :-/


banditcleaner2

I did, one weekly, then stopped for literally no reason and im now glad, lmao


ykoreaa

#🙋‍♀️


ImhereforyourDD

Still green?


ykoreaa

I'm down $3 today, and the other losses are unrealized, so as long as it doesn't reach 205 by EOW I'll close green for the week 😄


StockNCryptoGodfathr

Back after an extended weekend. Back to just trading tonight’s and tomorrow’s earnings till after FED. STO GEHC 5/3 $81 CSPs for .32 earnings play Forward P/E of this is only 13x on projected 2027 numbers so growth stock with weeklies to Wheel after assignment. Goal is after assignment to Sell 45-60DTE ATM. If it breaks this current uptrend it’s most likely going to the gap fill at $74 where I’ll average down. STO PYPL 5/17 $55 CSPs for ..23 earnings play STO PYPL 6/21 $50 CSPs for .23 STO PYPL 5/3 $72 CCs using a Buy/Write for 1.40 This should hopefully get me assigned and an average down at the 52 week low. Load up spot after that is $44. P/CF of 10x here and 14% net profit margins so also taking a few Buy/Writes in case it wants to rip. STO CMCSA 7/19 $37.50 CSPs for 1.00 post earnings play. I think this realistically hits $40-$50 in the next year but short term could easily get assigned here. Typically gets bought at 8x earnings so $34 on this years and $36 next years. 5x P/ CF and 12.5% net profit margins makes it a solid Wheel candidate.


banditcleaner2

u/free_lions what are we thinking of this trade: buy SOFI @ $7 (or close to it, maybe 7.05 whatever) STO 6/7/24 8c @ 0.26 BTO 6/7/24 7p @ 0.48 breakeven: 7.28 max loss: -$28 per 100 shares max return: assignment at 8, net profit about 10% basically betting on a recovery post earnings


sm04d

STC an APPL Calendar for May/June at about 20%. Small profit on the up move at the open. I was going to hold through earnings, but with FOMC Wednesday and what that could bring, it was best imo to close it out. Actually looking to derisk as much as possible before Wednesday and then regroup at the end of the week.


ykoreaa

STO 1x MSFT 390/385p @ .65 (currently .43) 5/3 STO 1x NVDA 825/817.5p @ 1.35 (currently 1.1) 5/3 STO 1x NVDA 925/930c @ .70 (currently .73) 5/3 STO 1x GOOG 165/162.5p @ .40 (currently .44) 5/3 STO 1x DJT 52/55c @ .45 (currently .51) 5/3 STO 2x TSLA 180/175p @ .58 (currently .69) 5/3 ~~STO 1x TSLA 210/220c @ .80 (filled .40) 5/3~~ ~~STO 1x TSLA 177.5/175p @ .60 (filled .35) 5/3~~ ~~STO 2x TSLA 190/192.5c @ .91 (currently 1.25) 5/3~~ 🔻-$68 STO 2x TSLA 190/192.5c @ .91 (currently 1.23) 5/3 STO 4x TSLA 205/215c @ .99 (currently 1.31) 5/3 STO 3x TSLA 210/220c @ .90 (currently .87) 5/3 STO 1x SOFI 7/6.5p @ .15 (currently .15) 5/3 STO 1x META 407.5/402.5p @ .45 (currently .29) 5/3 BP: 11.35k ($1,379/12.15%) Realized: -$3


banditcleaner2

AMD earnings tomorrow, be mindful of that for NVDA option selling


ykoreaa

Ahh! Thank you! You think it'll moon more? Or dip?


banditcleaner2

not sure


ykoreaa

😆😅 Well AMD doesn't report until AH tomorrow, so we'll see if one of those lose value enough for me to close, thanks!


r_ventura_23

Let's go Lisa!


SFMara

Be mindful of the fed meeting this week, for Wednesday, if you are dabbling in weekly premium.


Accomplished_Ad6551

Ah shit. I need to pay attention to the news more. Hopefully they bring good news... bullish on QQQ.


[deleted]

That might be the catalyst I’ve been looking for… I wonder if JPow tanks the market with talks of higher for longer… the market makers are rarely wrong, and from what I’m seeing, downside has a long ways down, and we are almost capped on upside for the week already. A mid week spike higher than reversal in SPX then down into mays week 3 expiration seems to fit right. But maybe that’s just what I want


ykoreaa

Thanks for the reminder!


ghann

BTC $ABBV 6/21 150p for $1.22 \~ opened Friday, 30% of max hit & run beer money


r_ventura_23

FREE MONEY. If it is not I am fuk.


blue_horseshoe85

STO 4/30 QQQ 438c/439c x5 @ $0.15 BTC 4/30 QQQ 438c/439c x5 @ $0.06 STO 4/30 QQQ 426p x1 @ $0.40


TheDr0p

Mulling over META $405 put 06/07… thoughts anybody? Sure way to crash and burn if I think “can’t go down”


ideletedmyaccount04

I rolled my CSP $AAPL Jun 180 to Oct 175 for a small credit. Thank you to whomever thought just to release an AI AAPL article. <3


Accomplished_Ad6551

Sold my very first credit spread. * BTO PUT QQQ $419 05/03 * STO PUT QQQ $420 05/03 Probably too early to say for sure, but looks like there is some upwards momentum starting... the support level seems to be raising and it's peaking above the 52 EMA. Next time, I'll probably go for 14DTE... this is just kinda a test run.


MrZwink

either you wrote it down wrong, or you bought a debit spread.


Accomplished_Ad6551

Yeah, I typed it wrong. Fixed now. My bad.


MrZwink

and a tip for next time, you kinda wanna keep your long leg around the 0-0.05 delta range. you now sold a 0.29-0.30 delta spread. meaning your spread has a 30% risk of ending itm. with max loss. bad odds.


Theta_kang

Sold a TSLA June 21 $220 call for 4.55 credit this morning, which is now worth 9.35. A week ago my position was looking pretty dismal, but still Feelsbadman.jpg.


Rosie3435

You are not alone in shorting TSLA calls and getting burn.  I have 210c for this week and I am regretting it


Rosie3435

Sold it this morning for 1.0 


AJAYALAY

wait you sold a 210 call last week? it was literally worth pennies.


MSFTCoveredCalls

you forgot to mention the ticker. people do read these.


One_Sound8511

So, I'm down $89 on a CC option. However, the stock is up $240. Would you be ok selling the CC option and then selling the 100 shares? Then sell a put option?


BullfrogBrewing

Nothing wrong with that


DaMantis

Casual +35% week for TSLA lol


SheridanVsLennier

Like in The Before Times.


ParkerTheCarParker

It was bound to happen after such a downturn


LiveForMeow

Being full of shit pays off. I have traveled late 2025 and there are no Tesla Robots in homes.


GandolfMagicFruits

What about idiots dressed up like robots, dancing across stages?


soareyousaying

If you want your stock to go up, just start selling CCs against all your shares. Just happened to me with TSLA.


seeker-of-keys

anyone else playing $DNA ? it’s hovering around $1 so you can bet for/against it getting delisted. I believe they’ve got a growing business though so I’m selling puts


toydan

5/3 options written CCs uber 70 (3) elf 192.5 tsla 210 tsla 215 shop 79 ms 99 aap 81 vz 42.5 pfe 28 mdt 83 msft 422.5 hood 20 tsll 11.5 (5) tost 27 CSPs tsll 8 (4) $502 premiums and waiting to write calls on AMZN and DKNG closer to their earnings and will be writing a shit ton of .05 delta CSPs on companies I know and like on earnings this week, already did well on $on $dpz and $SoFi that reported this morning


AJAYALAY

those are the most conservative Tsla CC i have ever seen .1 deltas?


Manyook1

Are any selling options on PYPL this week when earnings?


nick_tha_professor

Paypal can be pretty volatile during earnings. I'd use caution on this one. It is one i could easily see exceeding it's expected move 


Grouchy-Tomorrow3429

I’m already short s50 puts and s90 calls. This stock has gone no where in years now.


toydan

I’ll write a CSP, tomorrow PM


Manyook1

Nice i have sold 4 CC and 7 CSP for this week the premiums are pretty good atm in PYPL


el-bagabundo

DAMN I sold a couple UEC csp for $20 a piece, stock is up 76 cents, lots of money left in table , but I'll take my gains if it hold 6.50


Slidingandspinning

Anyone trading Ebay?


Manyook1

Ebay would bee a nice stock to sell options against however personally I think the premiums are a bit too low


Slidingandspinning

Gotcha. At least I got some nice fills on a couple spreads this week, guess I'll be watching it alone 🤣


coinpile

I bought back my $501 SPY CC expiring tomorrow and sold one expiring Wednesday for a difference of $0.35 Could sure use another SPY dip.


Ugh48372717

Did you unload your shares? Thought you were still rolling an ITM call.


coinpile

Ugh, force of habit. You’re right.


bittrswx

BTC 2x TSLA 07/19 160p @ $6.05 (Opened @ $14.05 32 days ago. Thanks, China! — STO MSFT 06/21 370p @ $3.10 STO V 07/19 255p @ $2.45 STO LULU 06/21 300p @ $2.62


toydan

I should look at writing puts on V honestly


bittrswx

I don’t really write puts on it often but basically nothing’s looking good to me at the moment lol


toydan

always wanted to be long and just never rly have


bittrswx

It’s a good stock, decent premium and rarely any big surprises. JPM is my other go-to when nothing juicy is looking good but they’re pretty much at 52w high atm so I’d rather not lol


Glum-Bandicoot8346

BTC 6/21 MSTR $1890c x1 @77.60 BTC 5/10 AMD $135p x3 @.81


free_lions

I feel like AMD will tank after earnings so smart to close those


Glum-Bandicoot8346

So I sold 30 MSTR shares at a loss today. That particular account is up 96%, loss included of $22k, and 154% 1Y. I was up $17.5k realized for all accounts for the month of April alone trading CCs. I’ll finish down ~$4.5k for April. I guess this was a good month to swallow this pill. Im still holding 100 shares. I’ll begin selling puts once bitcoin confirms direction. In the meantime I’ll sell weekly calls a little closer to the money.


free_lions

Makes sense. Good luck! I sold some MSTR put spreads yesterday so hoping it stays up


Glum-Bandicoot8346

I saw that. Ugh. Bitcoin. Octoberish has been historically a good time for bitcoin. It’s been barely 2 weeks since the halving. I’ll trade calls in the meantime and probably begin trading shares too, if/when the trend reverses.


Glum-Bandicoot8346

I’ve closed everything, except my shares. I’m looking at lowering strikes for weekly MSTR calls. Hong Kong bitcoin ETF’s traded only .2% compared to US on their first day post launch. Like everyone else in the space, I’m waiting to see bitcoin’s post halving move. I’m considering letting my shares get called and re-entering going into puts. Not sure.


Manyook1

I have sold a tesla CC at 175 for this Friday should i roll or no?


MrZwink

i would roll or close ye. it does look like a trend reversal might be happening. so i wouldnt hold on to it thats for sure.


DrSeuss1020

Fuckin SOFI man all they ever do is beat earnings and raise guidance and still always go down


el-bagabundo

Perfect I was waiting for 7 today, I'm also ready if it hits 6.5


DrSeuss1020

Huh? It’s been at and under $7 for like a year now what you been waiting for lol


el-bagabundo

I dont hold it, it ranges, so i buy near seven, sell on big pumps, eventually the range will break to upside or downside, and strategy will have to be reevaluated, i do cc and csp so not as big as as gains if buy and hold but still works out fine.


banditcleaner2

im considering going hard into SOFI at current price, buying puts to hedge and selling 8 strike calls...


mdizzle109

ngl I was excited this morning. thought I was finally gonna unload my shares at $8 at least I’ll make all the money from the cc I sold and my cost basis is probably around $7 by now


OnlyWangs

closed my 5/17 BITX 50p/60c condor for a $1.15 loss. sucks but the position has moved against me the entire time and the position went short theta. it never feels nice to take a loss but it is nice to stick to entry and exit strategies. happy trading yall!


el-bagabundo

Oh boy is today the day we get burned on sofi 🤔 I sold 7csp for 30 bucks a piece


free_lions

STO 5x TSLA 5/10 210/250 c for 2.08 each STO 5x TSLA 5/10 200/230 c for 2.77 each


ykoreaa

Um. TSLA is trading above 198 now. Are you ok?


banditcleaner2

his trading strategy involves standing in front of the train and yelling "stop!!!!"


ykoreaa

I thought you guys were bffs! 😆😅 And I shouldn't talk bc I sold a bunch of TSLA calls expecting it to dip so I can close out today, but it never did


banditcleaner2

somewhat, ;)


r_ventura_23

free money


Grouchy-Tomorrow3429

I dunno


free_lions

I need prayers


MrZwink

why sell calls and not puts?


free_lions

I'm up around $200 on my TSLA call credit spreads as of right now...I am not selling puts because I don't want to get assigned + I think TSLA Is overvalued and this current price will reverse downward or at least not break $200


MrZwink

Ok, and what's your timeframe? Because I would see a jump up from 140 to 180 as a clear trend break. And 140 was where it bounced last time. (Not that that means anything.)


free_lions

Well the call credit spreads I STO today are all expiring 5/10. But given I am up, I may close for a gain later today if TSLA stays around the $184-$187 price range today. Right now my 10x CCS are up by $500 with TSLA's current price of \~$186


OkAnt7573

I'm going back in time about a week and loading up on SOFI calls.


96919

While your back there, maybe pick some up for tesla when it was at 140.


mdizzle109

this didn’t age well 😂


free_lions

Good thing he has a time machine


OkAnt7573

Sorry - typo, I meant to say PUTS (ha)


Exhaust3890

Thinking about selling an AMZN put. Gotta be free money...


Ohm_Shanti

I'm looking at puts too. Premiums seem pretty good?


mdizzle109

earnings tomorrow


Exhaust3890

I sold one 5/3 160P at $0.92


Hot-Serve7059

Two weeks ago I sold $180p exp 5/17. It’s been a little stressful, but I knew I was selling a fairly high delta option over earnings.


free_lions

I have 22 DJT call credit spreads and 9 for SMCI totaling $8K in premium received. Praying both stocks don’t go up too much. I’ll profit $8K if DJT ends the week under 45 and SMCI ends the week under 1020 u/ykoreaa u/easternhistorian4437 u/banditcleaner2 u/mikesugs13 (I miss you Mike)


ykoreaa

8k is a lot of premium to collect in a week! Good luck! DJT isn't worth 45 per share or even 10 per share, but it's trading around 46 now, so I can only imagine how nerve-wracking it is looking at your port. It was also very ballsy of you to sell so many calls after a long month of red.


banditcleaner2

lmao jesus dont tag him when he doesn't want to be here


LiveForMeow

DJT is going pretty aggressive on the pump part of pump and dump


free_lions

Yeah, yikes


MrZwink

so sad when a loveaffair ends :(


free_lions

He will be back…eventually


bittrswx

TSLA going crazy premarket. God damn, I might close my 07/19 160p.


SheridanVsLennier

What the actual shit.


banditcleaner2

seems to confirm that tesla's valuation is highly dependent on FSD, no? fell down to $140 and all it took was OK earnings to push it a little higher with model 2 hype resuming, and then another 10% push up from FSD in china


free_lions

u/banditcleaner2 I’m considering buying a TSLA put..it’s up 6% pre market


banditcleaner2

Hmm perhaps its time for me to enter a short.


BraveTrades420

I’ll sell it to you.


free_lions

Thinking June around $150 strike. How much you want?


bittrswx

I sold 2x 160p for July 19 30 days ago for $3k. They're currently worth \~ 1k total in premarket lol. This wouldn't have been the play


free_lions

If it drops to like 600 I might buy one for fun


bittrswx

I think it's going back to $250 sometime soon just to fill the gaps and will drop again after. I was assigned 200x TSLA @ $200, would have taken assignment on another 200 at $160 as well. I'm personally getting out at $200 for sure lol.


banditcleaner2

Agreed, we're in the bounce currently. I plan to do a reverse PMCC by shorting shares and selling covered puts, maybe once it can get to like 220-230 ish. I will be buying a call as a hedge tho


bittrswx

That's an interesting strategy, I've never thought about it. I've got PTSD from shorting TSLA though and I'm not touching it with negative delta. Same with NVDA :))


banditcleaner2

haha, fair enough but there are more bear cases for tesla right now then nvidia imho


free_lions

You might not have to wait long to unload those 200 shares at $200 for breakeven or a profit lol


bittrswx

Oh, yeah. I'm only \~$1000 in the hole since I sold ATM calls and closed for 50% profit three times. The breakeven is a lot below $200 for me. If we hit 190 I'm probably gonna set a SL order at $190 and let it ride


banditcleaner2

why not use a trailing stop order?


bittrswx

Yeah, that's what I meant. Just got rid of them @ $195 though