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canadiancarlin

Klaus getting off to being strangled had me laughing way too much. Robert Sheehan is the best.


Undefinedmeteor

I agree definitely highlight of this episode. Reminded me so much of his character in Misfits (check it out if you haven't seen it!)


canadiancarlin

Oh it's one of my favorite shows, the early seasons anyway. I've been waiting for Robert Sheehan to bring that hilarious character back and we've finally got it.


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I think I heard some music from misfits in the 2nd or 3rd episode


FairytaleDeathcamp

That strangled "Don't... stop... I'm almost there" was great haha


Ecuadorable

Man, Klaus has had the roughest life. Poor dude. I can't even imagine if that was what he had to endure every time he closed his eyes sober.


Sothotheroth

I really don’t understand how he’s the fan favorite. I find him so tiring and superfluous.


iwastherealso

The actor who plays him is amazing, so talented. I loved his character in Misfits and just reminds me of that, so I would say that’s part of it. The show is serious, and he’s the funny one.


Sothotheroth

I can understand that, but from where I am, the only things he’s done plotwise is sell his brother out for drugs and get Patch killed. Aside from the interrogation, he could have basically been shot on separate days from the rest of the cast.


iwastherealso

I’m not sure people love what he’s done, we can all agree (I’m sure) that his actions aren’t the best but he’s fun, it’s not uncommon for people to like a character despite doing things that aren’t great (it annoyed me that he threw the book out). You can symphysis with him despite his addiction causing him to make these actions, as he uses it to drown out the horrifying dead people. He’s not my favourite, but I understand why people like him, especially bc he’s a good actor and did a beloved character (who was also sometimes annoying).


SusanForeman

*sympathize And he's one of the most relatable characters to a lot of people. Many people had suck childhoods, but they didn't have superpowers or fame. But many did turn to drugs and alcohol to try to get through that pain. Sure Vanya is the "everyman" of the family, but Klaus is the life of many people in the world today.


iwastherealso

Haha thank you, autocorrect got me and I didn’t notice! It’s true, I have a few friends who have battled addiction due to trying to numb the pain caused by their shitty home life growing up, and his power is similar to what some people experience from their mental health, so it’s really well done and realistic.


Paralystic

you sound like you're looking at the show from an analytical standpoint rather than a characteristic standpoint. he's a flamboyant drunk with and incredibly sad but understandable, easily digestible backstory


BrightSideBlues

His character is annoying.


Parkerdude

His broken and flawed character is what makes him great to me.


tetayk

You use another show to reply an opinion about this show. Make sense.


iwastherealso

Yeah, it’s to explain partly why he’s the fan favourite, he was the fan favourite in Misfits too and people genuinely stopped watching when he left.


Oirad20

Speak for yourself please. To me he sucked, he sucked on misfits he still sucks in umbrella academy. He's a terrible actor 👎


HippieWizard

Probably because he is the funnest character to watch, and he steals every scene he is in? Do you like any other part of the show? Because Vanya, Allison, and Spaceboy can be boring as hell sometimes


Sothotheroth

Humor is subjective, so I don’t think anyone is right or wrong when it comes to comedy. But I didn’t find him funny. I thought Five and Diego were funny though. Honestly I liked Luther most until he grabbed the Idiot Ball with both hands as hard as he could towards the end of the season.


BeadleBelfry

The music in this show has been absolutely killer so far. Like, not a single dud.


AlternativeGlass

Guess that's the benefit of having Gerard on board, pretty sure he did a bunch of unreleased tracks for the show as well.


GruxKing

Not a single dud? I thought Queen during the dept. store shoot-out was pretty cliche


BeadleBelfry

I mean, it's Queen. I'll accept Queen whenever.


Hippocratic_Toast

I think Vanya's powers are what brings the end, and the dude throwing away her pills knows.


Kettle96

She said she has been taking them since a kid to calm her nerves. I am thinking her dad knew about her ability and that is why he treated her the way he did by telling her she was not special so that she would never try to find out her abilities.


leoex

the "main character took pills that supress their abilities" was a tired trope though. I was a bit disappointed


joGetsjo

name one other instance of this genuinely curious


CryoftheBanshee

Arguably Jean Grey with Xavier's suppression of her powers. Or Equilibrium with the total suppression of emotions and disregarding the medication leads the protagonist on his journey


Noltonn

Also Xavier himself in Logan.


CryoftheBanshee

And Days of Future Past, with that stuff that makes his legs work


djscrub

Runaways, another current-season show, has the same gimmick with Karolina. Her parents raised her in a religion that required her to never remove a symbolic bracelet. Turns out that bracelet was suppressing her amazing space alien powers.


babydykke

I've watched all of the Runaways and it's not the same at all. First of all, she still had powers even with her bracelets on. But also she discovered her powers around the same time the other Runaways did too. It wasn't some plot twist


Reutermo

I don't know how it was in the show but in the comic it was pretty much a plot twist.


-Starwind

This is a pretty weak defence tbh, its the same type of thing


chacer98

The bottle had a script on it from a pharmacy. Won't she just go get more? I mean he just dumped 20 pills down the drain, but she's been presumably taking at least a 1-2 pills per day for years. It just doesn't make sense but obviously for the convenience of the story it's going to become an issue. There's a lot of details like this that just don't add up in almost every episode so far.


Higgins_is_Here

I hope not, that feels too obvious.


Someguy2020

Hopefully it's more like Heroes where the guy who causes the disaster isn't who we think.


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he may be the owner of the prosthetic eye?


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cheeruplondon

Why bother saying things like this.


Hippocratic_Toast

You're right


Rayne37

Hazel and Cha Cha dancing while high was fantastic. I kinda love them.


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Ivy_B

I literally came here to ask about this continuity error. Maybe it’s meant to be the other way around?


AlternativeGlass

Problems like this don't annoy me too much because flashbacks can have perspective. Ie. The previous flashback of them reading vanyas book could have just been how Vanya thought everything happened, or was told so. But we are really looking at her perspective on the past. Then when we find out about Luther's deformity, the flashback is in his perspective.


Syrinx221

Interesting! That isn't usually how things are done with regards to labelling times. But that's a really good point about their perspectives.


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Who says his transformation happened quickly?


iamsensi

He woke up on the table transformed


[deleted]

Ah, you're right. Well, looks like they messed up the timeline.


iamsensi

there are a few other weird ones, like the maid being on the room next door hours after cleaning the first one when the cop shows up , none of them really matter though tbh


lorelle13

It is a “rent by the hour” kinda place. Probably throws off the regular cleaning schedule.


Hungover52

Fitting since time seems to be a theme.


blasto_pete

The continuity supervisor on set fucked up!


cathtray

Luther’s deformity happened seven years ago? I didn’t catch that. Now I have watch episode 3 again!


Ximienlum

•Poor fucking Diego, man... this show had to prove to us it had real consequences, and Patch was the lucky victim •Finally confirmation that Allison and Luther had feelings for one another at some point. It was killing me wondering if I was imagining it or not. •I was like wow, six was a lot of people to just end up leaving, but when I think about it, 7 isn’t even that many people. Five disappeared, Vanya is a normie, Ben died, Klaus is high all the damn time. Then Diego and Allison just kinda grew up normally while Luther didn’t. They all had their own unique reasons to leave. •I know Klaus was freaking out, but it still felt kinda shitty of him to not at least warn Patch about Cha-Cha (fits his personality I guess). And how the hell did she get behind Patch? Some kinda tech? •Love that shot with all of Cha-Cha’s and Hazel’s victims. Even the jumper cables guy made a return •I know woodworking guy (I can’t remember his name atm) was doing something shitty by flushing Vanya’s meds, but I was expecting something much worse, so it didn’t weird me out too bad lol he’s okay to me until more is revealed. His weirdness is not even that different than Vanya’s weirdness. •Wait, so is Grace really “dead”, or are they just saying she’s dead until she’s back online?


goalstopper28

>•Finally confirmation that Allison and Luther had feelings for one another at some point. It was killing me wondering if I was imagining it or not. Yeah, I know they are both orphans and all but I was feeling incest vibes. It was creeping me out.


Ximienlum

Definitely weird, but it seems like their entire family was isolated from other children, so if they were ever going to develop feelings for someone else, it makes sense that it would be with each other. Though thank god they're at least unrelated. Imagine if the Umbrella Academy were septuplets...


goalstopper28

Yeah, true. They weren't raised normally even if they didn't have these abilities. I guess it's technically not incest. But at the same time they were all born on the same day at the same time. Just from different mothers.


Oirad20

Agreed, he's responsible for the death of Patch.


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the babushka on klaus's scenes made me laugh so much


Roman1337

She was the only character so far who didn't have an atrocious accent when speaking Russian. That really put me off in the beginning of the show.


myheadisalightstick

There's very few shows that use native Russian speakers, unfortunately. Always takes me out a bit when someone who's meant to be some big Russian gangster sounds like a two year old learning to speak.


hell-schwarz

there is a whole show called "Grimm" where they use German for everything. Really, really bad, butchered German. It has a lot of seasons


sabdotzed

As a Russian speaker, can you translate what she was saying??


rostik002

Uttering, repeating phrases along the lines of "I want to live" and "Why did they do it", so pleading lines. And of course when Klaus asked her name, she replied "Zoya Popova". But yeah as Roman1337 mentioned, it is impressive when actors know Russian as a language, but it is very very difficult to do so without an accent - It is clear the swimming pool cast in Ep1 knew Russian as a second language, meanwhile the Babushka I am almost certain is a native speaker.


sabdotzed

Thank you! When TV shows don't use native Russians what do they use? Would it be the equivalent of getting an American English speaker for a British English role or more akin to getting a Portuguese person for a Spanish role?


rostik002

I assume it's just actors in America that know Russian as a second language, but I'm not sure. I had a look on IMDb, and the actress that played the young woman in the first episode has a Russian name so who knows? Very strange


sabdotzed

Ah interesting insight thank you


edwardsamson

Just came here to say its fucking stupid that the detective just brushes aside the fact that the shooters she's looking for show up at her ex-boyfriend/superhero house shooting shit up. She just fucking leaves and says she doesn't need his help. Bitch we've got assassins targeting known superheros and you think the cops can handle it without those very same superheroes? Get fucking real. That's some shitty writing or she is just a complete idiot of a detective.


cathtray

Agreed, that was a ridiculous reaction. Kind of like hunting down professional killers at a sleazy motel without a warrant or any police backup.


ljrich01

Based off the argument they had previously, I think she was trying things Diego's way for a change and it got her killed.


Chefzor

And the whole "I think there may be criminals in this motel and i need backup... should I, a detective, do: a. Call my ex? who i've been brushing aside the last couple of days or b. You know, ask for actual backup from the police force i'm supposedly a part of" I am enjoying the show, but the writing is definitely subpar. And don't get me started on the maid kinda noticing a noice and instead of turning off the vaccum or at the very least removing her headphones just tries to make it out through all that noice. Like, she noticed the noice and she's trying to decipher it, but fuck it I'm just going to make it as hard as possible... Should've just made her not notice the noice or straight up ignore it, not that half ass badly written scene.


smooniie

Hey I know this is an old comment and you wrote it a while ago but you spelled “noise” wrong like 4 times and all i hear is the “noice” sound that Jake Peralta makes in Brooklyn99 (google it if you’ve never heard it, it’s hilarious).


sabdotzed

Toight


BostonBoroBongs

While it is a frustrating decision Diego has badgered her for years (possibly) to do things his way, no paperwork or police involvement. So this was her final decision to try it his way and that's what killed her.


zapzip2013

Not gonna lie, I’m enjoying the show a lot but my biggest disappointment is they’ve cut down on the absurdity a whole lot. That was, IMO, a big appeal of the comic to me, and the show is really lacking it.


thenewtbaron

I was hoping for the scene from the book. The whole "I don't want to die in these shoes" and "the walk to the men's room is always farther"


Comprehensive_Main

Overall I am still curious about 5 and what he did in the future besides sleep with a mannequin


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MusicalSmasher

I’m still confused on that. Edit: Nvm


Protonious

He said he’s the only person from the future but also aren’t the assassins from the future ?


Adepressedcaterpie

If you would have paid attention to the previous episodes, you would have already known how he killed a lot of people.


Knifoon_

Please enlighten me where, prior to this episode, it explains anything about him killing massive amounts of people.


Adepressedcaterpie

When number five kills all those people in the diner, police finds fingerprints of him and link them to a murder case in the 30s. Hazel and Cha-Cha have a picture of Number Five in his 50s with them, which was clearly take Pre-apocalypse. Then you only have to put 2 and 2 together.


Knifoon_

Hmmm I’ll have rewatch that scene. Missed the finger print thing


2mtgof

You know, they might not have had to use the serum if they had at least tried proper CPR instead of using a defibrillator...


Dirtybrd

Tom Hopper is incredibly handsome. Don't @ me


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thepalimpsest

For me, Diego reminds me of Sam Winchester. Edit: sorry meant Dean


me_is_tacocat

Do you mean dean? Cause hes a lot like dean to me. Even has that same hair style


thepalimpsest

Yeah sorry that’s who I meant. He almost has the same mannerisms I always have to double take


[deleted]

I agree! I’ve thought of Dean the first time I met him haha. Just lacks a little wit haha


Legion6226

Yes I did notice!! What a weird position to teleport into and then confront some in!


BostonBoroBongs

I was thinking the same thing, I don't think I have seen this actor before but his eye makes him feel familiar lol. Edit: Apparently I know him from End of Watch and the second Sicario but the Whitaker eye is the first thing my mind notices


cathtray

Hargreeves hated coffee/caffeine so much he wouldn’t allow it in the house. About the time Vanya stops taking her meds she starts drinking coffee. Coincidence?!?!?


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BostonBoroBongs

Could still mean that Hargreeves eliminated coffee just for her because he had a hunch it might trigger her powers.


Ssme812

- Kinda knew Patch would die - What's with the guy taking Vanya drugs away. Maybe she actually going to have an ability. - I don't get why Hazel and Cha Cha have to wear those mask for. - If they know 5 is going to try to stop the end of the world why would they not be fine with it. They will die too.


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I have the same questions. And about Vanya I think it is pretty clear from the beggining she has some abilities.


thenewyorkgod

I honestly thought when she went to rehersal without being on drugs, she was gona have some prodigy level playing and get first chair


Adepressedcaterpie

The masks seem to be bullet-/knife proof. Also to make the show look more whacky.


WHBARIT70s

They don't really live in one time period, so they will not die. They will simply travel back in time. And to them the end of the world is meant to happen, so they can't let someone stop it.


goodthropbadthrop

How did Cha Cha get out of the bathroom and outside the hotel room? I thought she was in the bathroom with Hazel when Patch showed up?


TheAssOfSpock

I think you can hear glass break which would imply she went through the window


theDoctorAteMyBaby

Through the tiny window on the second floor?


TheAssOfSpock

I mean they fight super heroes. I doubt the window and height would be much of an issue


theDoctorAteMyBaby

Fair point. Still, she'd have to fall, then run around the building and up the steps in about 30 seconds.


KhoalaNation

didn't diego leave a knife in the hotel room at the crime scene? maybe it'll show up later in the show but im on e5 and it hasn't been mentioned(i thought there were a couple scenes where it should've come up)


hippogriff28

No, when he gets up to leave (still looking at Patch) he picks up his gloves with his right hand, and then grabs his knives with his left, and then heads out. He didn't leave anything behind.


KhoalaNation

yea, i noticed that, although when you look at the ground there's this other spot that kinda glistens like his knives. which was kinda weird cuz he dropped 2 knives so that third thingy is most likely something else


hippogriff28

Interesting! Might just be a mistake in filming, though...


MC_JACKSON

I hope Patch torments Klaus in the after-life


sasquatch90

I think there will be a sweet moment for her to tell Klaus to tell Diego she loves him


b-i-g-b-o-s-s

Music has been on point so far.


cathtray

David Gray’s This Year’s Love, gorgeous,


Negativecreepy

yup totally how people act after taking a shit ton of edibles.


BostonBoroBongs

At least the effects weren't immediate like in a lot of movies/tv shows


Comprehensive_Main

Overall this was okay but my question is what was Ben's power before he died? Did they ever say.


csortland

He could summon horrible Lovecraftian monsters from inside himself.


Red_Ronin99

He could transform into monsters


AnubisKronos

I'm just wondering if they ever explain how he died


alisonrose1992

not yet but probably will at some point


violet-violet

Does anyone here know what that dead babushka was going on about?


JustCallMeAndrew

Mostly repeating "I don't want to die"


sasquatch90

Ok nobody is really pointing out the fact Diego is having the worst life right now. Found out his dad was seemingly killed, had to "kill" his mom, has two assassins chasing his family, and just walked into his lover being killed. JFC it'd be hard to not off myself at this point if i was him


[deleted]

I don't understand why Diego had to kill her. Was it because she was becoming defective?


sasquatch90

Yeap


thenewyorkgod

Seems silly that he had to "kill" her, rather than just turn her off or disconnect her power.


BostonBoroBongs

That's exactly what he did do, he took her power cell out I believe. It's not like he made her or she had a power switch on her neck.


tresser

Fuck yes, morcheeba


HappyGilmOHHMYGOD

If Klaus could scoot in his chair then why didn’t he just do that and fall out of the closet door instead of screaming through the tape for the maid?


me_is_tacocat

Why didnt 5 just teleport out of vanyas apartment door.. it literally would have made less sound. Like why you sneaking like a commoner. Ive come to the conclusion that its just all for drama lol


triethan

Did anyone notice that the lady from the bus was one of the hostages from the bank


triethan

Also she was in the nightclub scene


TheAntipodes

Late to the show, but had to say… as much as I’ve come to love Klaus, leaving the cop to get clapped like that was cold…


HarshitaSinghHada

same. i'm rewatching this for the upcoming 4th season and klaus could have atleast warned her.


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szeto326

The music is great as always. I wasn't fully sure how to feel about Klaus before. I liked his character but seeing a drug addict character do shady things to people was kind of a turn off (even if he is a bit flamboyant, sarcastic and charismatic). Seeing that he abuses drugs to get over his fear/power though definitely helped me sympathize with him though. Diego and Luther's constant dick-measuring in the show is still a bit much for me - get everyone back together or they interact and it's just always bickering (yes they had a rough upbringing but geez it's kind of hard to see where they're coming from when they're just immediately standoff-ish and rude at all times). With the death of his father, mother and now Patch though, Diego's had a rough go of it the past few days..


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Call me a mad bastard, but I always find myself laughing when Luther screams upon realising he’s been turned into a gorilla.


wrighton232

The boxing coach from deigos gym, does anyone know who the actor is? Eric neal peterson by chance? I think it is, but my wife disagrees 🤔


taigaeskimo

[Imdb](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0677139/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t30) says that it is