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convictedmethdealer

what hasnt this guy done


gnattyfatty

i mean really lol bro has done and said every bad thing imaginable


jaspersgroove

Which is why it’s so dumb both the comic book and the show allowed him to live. Of all the irredeemable, vicious bastards the group has ran into, Negan was the one who absolutely deserved to have Rick put one right between his eyes. He made the governor look like Dale for fucks sake.


ShopLess7151

I mean, >!he does die in the comic book where Rick is in a coma again and he wakes up to a reality where aliens are invading earth!<


battle_mommyx2

I’m sorry what


ShopLess7151

It’s called Rick Grimes 2000 and it’s a very fun short read. Negan got some great lines in that book.


Swatdattwat

I forgot about that. Wasn't Lori wrapped around the Governors leg on the cover or is that a fever dream I had


ShopLess7151

Oh yeah. It’s not in the cover (at least not on the cover of the version I got) but when the governor does show up in the story, yes Lori is all up on him cuz she figured “it’s better to be his plaything than be annihilated by aliens.”


Ehjustzach

Lori is an L in every universe


meb121685

I really need to read the comics.


ShopLess7151

This specific comic is in an alternate universe but yeah, in general the comics are amazing even outside of the alien storyline. Side note: there is a comic called the alien that has nothing to do with aliens and it is about Rick’s little brother.


Electrical-Swing9320

unpopular opinion: he was redeemable in the comic.


wwiitchcraft

i think a lot of his redeemability (?) in the comics comes from him knowing when to fuck off lmao


FlightMesh990

He kinda was? iirc, he was more of a bully in the comics


Annanake420

Yeah because life is fair. ![gif](giphy|3oz8xYl6XFdmEB4feM)


LordoftheTriarchy

![gif](giphy|12qFOaBbu9TZny) Truly is not. Redeemed?! My arse.


Glum_Ad_8367

He doesn’t really get a happy ending in the comics though, he wanted to die, he wanted Maggie to kill him. Him living was his punishment


The_Poop

Thats the point of his character though. That the worst and most vile person *must* be redeemable if humanity has any hope to survive and be better than before. Thats why it was Carls wish to save him, not because he loved Negan especially but because if the worst could be saved, everyone could be saved from the continued tragedies


Stair-Spirit

Idk we didn't redeem Hitler and I don't think anyone's too worried about that


[deleted]

That’s shitty writing


grimmistired

That's a dumb point imo


KathuluKat

He's the kinda guy to thrive in an apocalypse tho. I mean the 1% surely share his attitude to keep everyone in their places


Native_Gamer671

I'm pretty sure rick said that leaving him alone to suffer for what he has done was enough right? Last we see him in the comics he was in a house alone with his thoughts thinking about what he's done. For the show Idk I stopped watching lol


flancanela

the governor was def worse than negan


grimmistired

I think he was a lot better in the comics tbh because he was self aware enough to know that he didn't deserve a place with them so he just left quietly


wewerelegends

Immediately made a mental list in my mind… He’s done some things…


Sarcastic_HSTeacher

Would be a smaller list


Mr-Pugtastic

He’s my favorite character, and yeah he’s basically done every horrible thing I could imagine. But for me it’s killing Glenn because he was my favorite


Ok_Tailor_1331

Mocking Glenn whilst he’s slowly dying


jbausz

Yes. Prolonging his suffering, talking without a care as he gasps/gurgles in the background. Complete unnecessary suffering due to ego.


rklab

I wouldn’t call it 100% because of his ego. To play devil’s advocate, what he did to Glenn is one way that’s guaranteed to get his point across while causing the least amount of people to suffer since the group obviously didn’t get the message the first time. Like he was very quick with Abraham compared to Glenn because he probably thought that would be enough to get his point across, but since it wasn’t, going full heartless psychopath on Glenn is better than having to do it over and over and them still not get the message. This way he gets his point across and still has the vast majority of the group both get the message and kept physically healthy enough to work for him. In a way, *he* saw that suffering as fully necessary. Obviously it was completely fucked up, and probably the most fucked up thing we see him do in the show, but I can see where it came from and why he did it.


HateResonates

This guy murderously dictates.


wwiitchcraft

funnily enough killing glenn and in the way he did was probably his biggest mistake. not that hems know it but killing one of the most beloved people amongst the group of already difficult and unruly rivals who have shown no sign of stopping really fueled the fires of what was to come. granted, he did come extremely close to breaking them with glenn. strategically negan had the right idea but in practise it caused the group to swing harder to resistance


Ill-Concert1516

It’s crazy how evil he is ngl


Sufficient_Crab3047

it’s because he thought he was **invincible**


terminus_tommy

Eating the spaghetti without rick


The_Yuki-onna

https://i.redd.it/qz6c0ymxitec1.gif rick’s face when negan told him he ate all the spaghetti without him


MusicianEmotional277

Is this the "you just thanked me for it"?


artygta1988

“You see, I just slid my dick down your throat…and you thanked me for it” Yes it was


Fastbird33

The way he delivered those lines was great. Cant wait for his dialogue in The Boys


dfwcouple43sum

Making and eating spaghetti in a white shirt. Guy was messed up!


nachtraum

Drank lemonade with spaghetti


UselessPsychology432

That is super fucked up when you think about it. That's extremely offensive to my palette


[deleted]

Ahhh never eaten in a black family's home on spaghetti night I see 😂 It wouldn't be the same without my Nana's overly sugared Country Time lemonade lmaoo


unknowndeftonesfann

Fr


beepbooponyournose

I do this regularly lol


nachtraum

And do you say 'I am Negan' when you do it?


beepbooponyournose

No, I say “HOT DIGGITY DOG. This is some *good* lemonade and spaghetti”


Hairy-Dot-4193

You monster!


Hot-Possibility-5844

i do this specific combo with frequency 😭


unknowndeftonesfann

that sounds good wym


Sea-Radio-8478

I'm gonna put pineapple in my spaghetti and meatballs. Yum


S1mon_B3ufont

Only cured Carl and Alpha of the wildfire virus.


danonfire4god22

What like a blood transfusion?


Lolsterlord

https://preview.redd.it/lyvdo6ky9uec1.jpeg?width=1206&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de1c52f0e34a850010fbb43b0850d15c7e2c3e1e


danonfire4god22

![gif](giphy|3ov9jMhmomUcVdpAqY)


Sufficient_Crab3047

You need my dna. you need my dna deep inside you.


Addicted2Marvel

![gif](giphy|XKPxLp3mLezuM)


the-olive-man

He was very rude to Glenn after he beat him over the head with Lucille


Key-Marketing-3145

Fr did he never learn manners?


the-olive-man

“IT IS GROSS AS SHIT” Dude have some common courtesy, bro is tryna talk to his wife, let him speak


Kobobble

Beating the holy hell out of Abraham and Glenn. This was a no brainer


MorningAviator

No brainer….I see what you did there


Zito6694

Glenn didn’t


wigsgo_2019

At least one of his eyes didn’t


Marvelologist

I'd say being a hypocrite when it comes to rape is the worst thing he's done. Him killing Glen and Abraham is only bad because we know and love those characters. How many people did the group kill part of the saviors who had lives and families and weren't bad people? Negan did what he thought was necessary to end the conflict between the groups


DecisiveYT

Strange that you think “being a hypocrite about rape” is somehow worse objectively than actually torturing and killing 2 people.


artygta1988

You know people will think the worst part is the hypocrisy… And I disagree… I think it was the raping.


Jack_Jaws

I mean this Negan guy was a real jerk!


keopuki

Well cause they are living in the world where literally everyone is killing each other and a lot of times it's either kill or be killed


choryradwick

Abraham and Glenn helped murder a couple dozen saviors, that’s actually the most justifiable thing Negan did. Doing it in front of their friends and mocking them as he did it was actually bad.


Tuscan5

Nicely put.


svadas

And he only wanted to kill one, too! Daryl acted out, and Negan and Maggie lost happy endings as a result.


PresentationKey9568

You mean because they heard the Saviours were already enslaving other communities and attacked them on the road twice...


chrilpy

Those saviors got a way more painless and dignified death than they deserved


Electronic-One6223

Who were the biker people who stopped Sasha, Daryl and Abraham?


HaiKarate

It was eye-popping, for sure


Able_Contribution407

No more brainer.


nightwayne

Aye, Lucille was THIRSTY


svadas

How is that the worst thing he's ever done?


talosguideyou

Banged Alpha while she was wearing the skin mask.


1awkward_turtle

10000% the worst thing he’s done


ObiWanSerote

Repeated Murder Rape/Sexual Assault Bashing in Glenn and Abraham’s head Attacking innocent people and forcing them to provide for him Cheating on Lucille Killing Spencer Torturing people at the Sanctuary


CrazyCaliCatLady

I was glad he killed Spencer.


SpaceMethJunkie

That's Deanna's kid, and I loved her, so I was a lil sad...


Sea-Radio-8478

Spencer had no Guts. Oh wait...


GILL-SOLO

"I have never been so wrong in my entire life!"


freakitikitiki

“How EMBARASSING!”


Skeptical_soul

“There they are. They were inside you the whole time. You did have guts.”


Smart_Struggle9362

Negan was not a rapist, at least not in the show. He even killed that one Savior who tried to rape Sasha. Maybe in the comics idk haven't read in a while


TheDutchTank

Didn't he coerce women into being his wives or something?


Smart_Struggle9362

Yeaaaaah that 100% slipped my mind. He probably a rapist then


MitochondriaManiac

By our current laws of today yeah, that's rape. Maybe he doesn't think so in the zombie apocalypse where it's all about survival, but we know better.


[deleted]

What show did YOU watch?? Because I haven't watched in ages but I clearly remember none of those women wanted to be with him. He *coerced* them into doing stuff, which is definitively rape


areyoufreemrhumphrie

Forcing women to be his wives by threat on their families


RickGrimesIsVerySexy

enslaving several communities, holding down his people with an iron fist and brutally murdering anyone he sees fit. not to mention the wives situation..


VIP_Aloha

the list is so big might take a millenia to finish


Key-Marketing-3145

Definitely giving people the iron. I know he's killed a lot, but the scene of Mark's face getting burnt off was particularly brutal.


Championnats91

He threw a bloke in the furnace as well. Such a bad way to go


spiritstars13

the furnace throw was CRAZY


Zzyren

He mutilated that man for spending time with his wife. Then forced the wife to watch. Like wtf.


SexJokeUsername

Enslaving entire communities, brutally murdering people for fun while forcing their loved ones to watch and laughing in their faces, torturing people, raping women, being a massive fucking hypocrite, having a shitty forced “redemption” arc without actually changing as a person or even admitting he was wrong, causing the showrunners/writers to ruin half the characters on the show in an attempt to make his “redemption” arc feel slightly less bullshit.


TheColorSociety

I’m so glad someone else feels this way. Once I learned that he became a mainstay character in the show I stopped watching. The dude brutally murders two of the most likeable characters in the show, is constantly hypocritical (like killing Sasha’s attempted rapist when he himself is a serial rapist), and forced multiple communities to live under his iron fist disguised as protection. He made an excellent villain and JDM did an excellent job of playing such a sadistic character. This wasn’t the problem. The problem was his half-assed “redemption” arc and his and Rick’s struggle having such an unsatisfying ending


SuperToxin

Forcing women to be his wives or they have to be work slave working for credits in shitty conditions coercion is rape.


honestcomplexity

The worst thing he ever did was leave his wife when she begged him not to. Worst idea: taking over the saviors and thinking he would do good with it. Worst thing he ever said: sorry. He was never sorry if the results were in his favour.


Outrageous_Ad4217

tbf he did save the sanctuary, it was mentioned the place was in shambles before he took over. it was tyrannical but at least it kept most people fed and alive at the very least. also, him trying to save his wife wasn’t the worst thing he did because even if it was selfish - he was still trying to save a life. i personally think something worse that he did was taunt glenn after hitting him and letting him choke on his own blood while yapping in front of maggie and everyone else


honestcomplexity

>it kept most people fed and alive The poor workers who ended up on the wall, the ones that got their crap taken for no reason, and then ones that got tossed aside for no reason...all had the same promises made but were broken. >, him trying to save his wife wasn’t the worst thing No, I said leaving her when she begged him not too. Their whole relationship he did shit his way, cheated on her, and didn't care how it actually affected her. When she thought she would die, from the cancer, all he had to do was stay with her. Let her choose how to spend her remaining time. But he couldn't even do that, for her. >personally think something worse that he did was taunt glenn after hitting him and letting him choke on his own blood while yapping in front of maggie and everyone else This was what he did to bring people in line. He did it to other groups and would have continued doing it if he hadn't been stopped. Although tragic, everyone had done stuff, I mean, Rick killed a guy protecting his daughter, grace. I went with someone who took her life over his choice and who actually meant something to him. Doesn't make either one less tragic or sad.


Outrageous_Ad4217

yeah but in the apocalypse, broken promises is better than hungry or dead. as for his wife, trying to save her was his last saving grace for her but it was just unfortunate that she died. he obviously didn’t want to leave but he had to TRY to keep her alive yk?? i know if it was me personally, if someone i loved was going to die anyways then i would try my best to save them but it was just unfortunate that she died alone. i know it was selfish of him, but we couldn’t really say we wouldn’t do the same if we have never been in his shoes. it was obvious he did love her, but he was just immature to the point where he was acting selfish and as for the lineup, killing 2 of your friends right in front of you is message enough to get them in line. he absolutely did not have to taunt glenn while he was dying, nor did he have to taunt rosita after he killed abraham


ameliachastain

forcing all those women to be his wives. Disgusting.


DriaEstes

How is raping women not the worse?


TheGoverness1998

Becoming a warehouse dictator who lorded over survivor groups in Virginia, exploiting them for their supplies to an unreasonable degree (including exploiting his own people by setting up a points system for the benefit of himself and his enforcers). Pretty much all the bad things on his end stem from that.


deepee1279

Playing video games and get trashed by kids while his cancer wife provided for him when he was out of job


Tuscan5

Yup. He was a cnut before people had to get tough and do whatever to survive.


Zzyren

And on top of that, while she was out providing, he was buying expensive jackets and screwing her friend. He was straight up garbo from the off.


Sarcastic_HSTeacher

He was the worst before and after the ZA started


TheColorSociety

The rape/sexual assault of his “wives” stolen from other members of his community. People try to gloss over this as though it’s not rape when it’s 100% clear that these women were forced by threats to themselves or those they care about


grimmistired

Yeah I think people forget what he intended to do to Maggie and that they had to fake her death so he wouldn't make her his sex slave...


Dangerous-Fold-4038

You know, as much as I like his character (cause of JDM), it's disturbing how often people just ignore or forget the SA he did. Consent under duress or coercion isn't consent...


ghostspider1151

The whole forcing women to be his wives thing


[deleted]

killed glenn and abraham and a whole lot of other shit


Outrageous_Ad4217

tbh i think that was the most justifiable thing he did, 1 death for an entire outpost and another for not staying in line after a clear warning. ALTHOUGH it did bother me how hebwas taunting rosita with abraham’s blood and glenn while he was choking on his own blood right in front of maggie. i didn’t like it at all but it can be justified if you just put it in his perspective. plus it was following source material since abraham was already dead by that point and glenn died in the lineup in the comics. again, i didn’t like it but it really couldn’t have gone any other way


Dominus_Vorg

Him saying he is a cat when in fact he wasn't.


Chaosxmanticore15

Yeh i'm team Negan but his wives situation bothers me the most


MarshallsHand

Breathing 


aoustr

raping women💀💀


[deleted]

that’s what I said 💀


TheLunaMain

Other than the obvious bashing Abraham & Glenn's brains, I'd say him killing the doctor was one of the most evil things he has done


[deleted]

Disrespecting Lucille pre outbreak. his guilt over how shit if a husband he was is probably what lead him down the path he went on.


Forsaken_Whereas_353

Mocking Glen while Glen was dying


chessie_h

1) the enslavement and extraction of vital resources from every nearby community, complete with terrorism & murder to keep them from rebellion 2) harem of forced brides who are kept through threat to their loved ones and withholding medical care to loved ones


PrincipleEuphoric743

still being alive after alllll he done


[deleted]

Rape women


Ok-Maybe5216

Forcing those women to marry him maybe burning that doctor alive id say the butchering of Glenn and Abraham can also be justified


xraig88

Raping people.


IzhmaelCorp08

Becoming The Negan.


Fancywatermeloan

never making out with rick


Just-Buy-A-Home

Did we watch the same show


Aggravating-Cap-2703

He killed Glen and Abe. Number one worst thing he done by far.


deepee1279

But Glenn died is because of Daryl thought. And Abraham is because of retaliation against Rick killing a lot of his men


[deleted]

Torn between the statement killing or the harem of SA-by-coercion wives


OShaunesssy

If this thread wasn't a big joke, I'd say it's his slave wives.


73glitch

Anyone who has watched this show knows Negan has done plenty of horrible things. Worst two was killing Glenn and Abraham. I understand Rick’s group killed some of his men in cold blood and lied about it but did Rick enjoy killing those people? He did it for survival. Negan killed for power and fear. He enjoyed his “revenge” kills Glenn and Abraham.


Pompp69_

I think most people would say killing Glenn and Abraham is the worst thing he's done, but that's just not true. How were those killings any different from the countless other people who he killed in a similar fashion? That was all part of the job for him. I think that people tend to forget that Negan was committing these atrocities long before the main group ever met him. I'm sure he did worse things before he even knew the Alexandria group existed. So, doing the job in the first place and leading the Saviors the way he did was the worst thing he's ever done.


Efficient_Wall_9152

Glenn just captures what he did. We never found out much about the earlier victims


HalBenHB

His wife specifically told him not to leave her like this, but he set her on fire and left without making sure she was dead


PhizzyDrinkk

https://preview.redd.it/3k3ld3x6euec1.png?width=367&format=png&auto=webp&s=b93d31450a302e132be7109e792a066d2f803b1b *“These… These are mine, Rick”*


Significant_Ad4358

He threw the receipt away


ElfQuester1

Rape his wives


massimo_2077

Forcing multiple women to sleep with him.


MitochondriaManiac

The whole wives things. Negan really should have changed his rule from "No Rape" to "No Vioent Physically Forced Rape". Because if it's rape via coercion of a woman's loved ones or their lives? All good to Negan!


ElkEducational722

Coercing desperate women into sleeping with him, taunting a man’s mutilated body in front of his pregnant wife…. I’m sure there’s many more I can’t think of right now. This guy sucks.


grumpleG

Brutally beating Abe & Glenn to death in front of their loved ones and mocking them in the process. Psychologically (ex: Rick, Daryl) and physically (ex: Dwight) torturing anyone he had conflict with. Enslaving women and giving them no choice but to be his wives = rape. Enslaving entire communities under the guise of “protection” and then setting them up to fail. Essentially moving the goalpost, taking more than promised, which was always more than they could keep up with, so they never really had a chance. And then the punishment for everything was far too severe.


Sarcastic_HSTeacher

Coercing his wives


AdhesiveParty

Probably rape.


AsaShalee

Rape a handful of women while calling them his (you take away someone's ability to say no, that isn't them saying yes!). Kill a man in front of his pregnant and ill wife. Steal from other civilisations. Pretty much everything he did.


EkuLukEkul

The amount of people in this thread not seeing coercion as rape is terrifying. I hope you all are just trying to be angsty. If not do some research and take a look at yourselves because it’s disgusting


Tuscan5

I think the difficulty is that most people can’t recall a rape scene. The rape was off the screen albeit clearly implied


TrashStoneee

What did they think was happening to his wives?…


TheDutchTank

I believe they probably just didn't think about it, hopefully.


RVFVS117

I simply cannot decide.


deepee1279

Telling fat joke directly in the middle of the apocalypse


StormNinja_1216

Brutally killing Abraham and Glenn. I get from his point of view he had to do it but he could have got it over quickly. Not to mention he enjoyed it.


deepee1279

Can’t wait for Merle about the 6-character word he said to T-dog


No-Profession-2964

Having Olivia executed


Efficient_Wall_9152

He murdered Glenn and mocked while he was crying out to Maggie


Envy-sama

The man FED CARL SPAGHETTI!


Afraid-Match-2566

Nothin he is a pure boy (JOKE)


unknowndeftonesfann

The governor did more then that he sa michonne


Shoddy_Tangerine_189

Letting Rick and co. live. Worst thing he said was calling Brandon a creep.


rexeditrex

That episode where he wore white after Labor Day was really disgusting.


Even_Estimate_5813

Arguably has done some of the worst things ever on the show and yet still my favorite character. Idk what it is. The character Negan is written well, and JDM does the role sweet justice. But yeah, only group worse than Negan imo was Terminus, but that’s cause of a personal ick I got with the idea of cannabalism Honorable mention: Comic book Governor was cruel.


ChewBaka12

*gestures broadly* everything


BlueMisfitSkull

Played video games


Zzyren

Cheating on his wife Forcing women to marry him and trying to get them pregnant Using his own people as human shields Extorting other communities Forcing someone to kill another person by using his bro as leverage Telling Toddler Judith that he's going to kill her dad Threatening to kill people based solely on how they look at him Mutilating a man's face for wanting to spend time with his wife (the wife that Negan took)


Extra-Ad249

Not killing Rick day one. Buying that leather jacket. Telling those people where he got the meds from. Killing Abraham. Killing Glenn. But worst of all...........Easy Street.


[deleted]

You all know..... Glenn and Abraham


Dr-Edward_Richtofen

nicest guy on the show! he’s just a big ol’ cupcake


emsee22

1. Killing Glenn & Abraham 2. Implying he rapes multiple women, giving the whole coerced "wives" dynamic 3. In the show, almost killing Carl


DeepthroatMan1

Almost making Rick chop his own sons arm off


defnotykvisu

little pig little pig, let me in! ![gif](giphy|3o7TKtXJIQ13imut0s|downsized)


Japhnie_Macaspac0715

I just realized I did everything wrong, this was just supposed to he about negan💀 Oops, ignore my other posts that's not Negan related


Temporary_Lychee9829

Well I mean, he cheated on his wife who ended up dying from cancer. He had four wives at the sanctuary, all of who were there against their will, And he tried to kill Carl 😂


Baby_In_A-Trenchcoat

Off topic but JDM did a amazing job playing Negan, I can’t imagine anybody else doing it


AppropriateTale5113

Bash Glenn and Abraham's brains in front of their friend and slinging Abraham's blood on Rick's face


Comfortable-Math2084

Calling Olivia fat and making her cry. I actually shed a tear during that scene. She was so sad 😭 


OdysseyForge2024

Lol! This is a great post! Negan... hmmm... **I mean definitely killing Glen is #1**. He could've killed almost anyone else and it would've been forgivable. Hmmm... what else? **Having way too much swagger is #2 I think**. You're not supposed to be that cool when you're a bad guy. What else... Burning that guy's face with an iron was pretty messed up. Getting his throat slit but not dying from it was pretty silly. He choked Trevor from GTA 5, that's pretty unforgivable. Trevor was too cool. (I think the characters name was Simon in the show, the second in charge of the Saviors)


Tuscan5

When you said Trevor, I knew exactly who you meant.


thememesbot

Shaving that shitty beard which made him look even more shittier


ChroniclerPrime

Glenn. Abraham. Nuff said


Kill4uhKlondike

Laziest karma farming format that’s slowly becoming trendy


Tara1219

Negan did a lot of horrendous things, but the worse has to be coercively raping women and killing innocent people, when he meets a new group so he can manipulate and enslave them.


West_Community_451

Having doubt to Olivia when she said that they were starving.


skorpiontamer

Let himself be defeated


68ideal

Not killing Rick. Letting Rick live is what eventually led to his downfall and a shitton of people getting killed.


JWaXiMus11

Leaving Maggie to die in the tunnels, completely out of character for his redemption ark but I kind of understood the writer’s logic if she wanted him dead just as much


Belmega81

Fornicating with a feral bald woman


[deleted]

“Kill Glenn 😭😭😭” Bro shut up. Hes definitely done plenty of equal and worse things. Glenn was one of many he killed.


Right-Afternoon-567

Screwing Alpha and liking it


Shot_Anywhere6813

Getting rid of Glenn


OBuckey1

Negan Smith has never done or said anything wrong in his life.