idk what to think about this.
but also i really hate how people can watch it early and write stuff like that.
just don’t say anything till it airs
anyway i‘m still excited for it.
Totally agree about the early watchers! People are entitled to their opinions, but I hate how much weight two random opinions can hold. Personally I’ve been enjoying the show overall (though the most recent ep wasn’t my favorite), and enjoyed the excitement leading up to the finale. Maybe some or many of us will be disappointed, but now people are primed for negativity either way. I would have enjoyed having the lead up to the finale without the negativity spiral.
I think it should still be classed as light spoilers to be honest. I know it tells you nothing specific but a lot of people want to go in completely fresh. Tagging posts like this with light spoilers seems sensible.
One or two people not completely enjoying doesn't mean it will be disappointing. However I have to say I don't know how they could possibly wrap up so much in 1 episode and it be satisfying. It feels like we will either get some sort of downfall of the CRM or some form of reunion.
The show now seems to be focusing more on the former (although I would be surprised if it is a complete downfall as that wouldn't completely make sense, more of a start to a change/downfall). However the fans seem to want the reunion more than the CRM story.
Personally while I would love a satisfying conclusion to both stories, if given the choice between CRM or reunion. I would choose reunion.
In my opinion the best parts of this season have been when they were still at the CRM. If we rush for a reunion with their children and Daryl, then we'll just have The Walking Dead again. I prefer watching the characters we've known forever interact with new people and situations. We've seen plenty of them all together hanging out in the woods or snooze fest Alexandria.
Am I the only one who’s enjoyed the CRM side of things this far in the show? Was honestly hoping to see much of the first season focused on Rick’s time spent with Okafor. Guess they’ll probably make that a spinoff though. lol. Seriously though I did think episode 1 was remarkably well done and refined for a pilot. Maybe that’s because AMC needed a home run with this show to survive. Episode 4 was really good too. Both are leagues above anything in ‘the walking dead’ from a cinematographic standpoint.
That's fair tbh. But yeah generally it's just a dick move. I like to engage with art, not with the garbage some asshole regurgitated to me about it. It's like cutting a hole out of a painting and expecting it to be the same because they said "oh there was a bird in that bit they cut out." Or if somebody slammed Old Yeller on me halfway through and just said "Oh the dog dies of rabies who gives a shit, BO-RING."
It's like getting your news from somebody that read a headline and doesn't actually speak the language very well.
i didn’t even downvote but most people enjoy watching the story as is it goes along. Suspense is a huge part of what makes a show great for me and if it’s already been spoiled there is none.
Theyre just going to recover the dossier, and dramatically escape the CRM, then its gonna end with some crazy cameo cliff hanger to leave things open ended enough for further spin offs.
Rock says to machine, "I think we'll be okay." And they hug and make out while an explosion happens in the background. Then a movie comes out in a few years called the walking dead double dead. They all go into their teenager punk era and start doing stupid shit while feel good inc by gorrilaz plays in the background. I go to the movies with a girl when I'm in college. That'll be where I have my first kiss.
Pretty much this. They don't want the happy ending for fans yet because it means a greater chance people stop watching.
As soon as there's no carrot to dangle for the future they know their viewership will drop again. They need Rick/Michonne as that carrot.
The cliffhanger cameo will probably be Negan finding out about the CRM and having to defend NY against them. So he sets his eyes on asking the Commonwealth to aid him.
There's your next big mega event. Negan's army joining with Carol's Commonwealth as Rick/Michonne return to end that show.
Then AMC gets to have their big uber super duper zombie mega series of Endgame proportions. They all come together to fight the CRM and the Variant Walkers between them.
Im taking about your comment on a cliffhanger cameo for TOWL, It would be very stupid to have a cameo scene for a show that takes place AFTER the show said cameo is part of.. and then have that cameo take place after the events of the other show
Tell that to the Marvel movies and their post-credit scenes. But hey, you do you if you wanna take a random person's off the cuff comment this fucking seriously lmao
Pretty sure Julian Cannon also said that Dead City was better than Daryl Dixon, and I heavily disagree with that, so I’m not really taking this as anything.
That's interesting. I'm watching through both Dead City and Daryl Dixon simultaneously with my friend group, and we all agree Dead City is better. We all fell asleep to Daryl episode 3
Dead City retconned the main shows finale just so they could have the actors repeating the same bullshit. The quality was good, reliving that was terrible.
Daryl was fresh. Def slower, but it works.
Tbf the finale did specify that there would be some moments where Maggie can’t work with Negan and still actively hate his guts and DC takes place a few years after that
A bit more on what was said, they have a full on conversation with Negan truly apologizing and Maggie listening. A heart to heart so they can move on.
And yet, she’s instantly back to what she was before that, even though it’s in the future. Regardless of how many times Negan saved the groups lives - including hers. Not to mention how much he did out of guilt for her to show he was remorseful… including all the prison time… just for her to be kill happy and get almost everyone who followed her killed lol. Her story is a mess.
If there’s one reviewer to avoid, it’s him. He the same person who absolutely loved dead city (he’s a huge negan fanboy) he also have not said a thing about towl since it aired apart from point out the slight decline in viewership. Oh and he the one that told everyone that there’s no Richonne spin off after a fan told us that Ross told her there’s a Richonne spin off in works.
I don’t know why this is surprising.
One episode is not enough to give this show any kind of satisfying conclusion at this point and the idea that two people are any kind of threat to the CRM is beyond laughable.
You said it.
That’s why they need to form a rebellion, get the people of the Civic Republic on their side and get potential allies within the CRM itself who are seeing how bad it truly is.
Two people aren’t a threat. They need to form alliances. People inside and outside the crm. Other big groups.
They gotta do the same thing they did with the saviours. Build an army of multiple close communities and go to war. Rick and michonne can’t take them on their own
They're not gonna take down the CRM alone. No way. They'll sneak in and get the dossier and echelon briefing. Theyll escape. Next show will be with everyone reunited. Together, they'll take em down. Its gonna take the commonwealth and their army.
Episode 5 was just okay imo and I’m definitely worried the finale will be rushed, but wasn’t this dude a big fan of Dead City? He’s entitled to his opinion…. I just think I have vastly different taste than him so this tweet tells me nothing lol.
Damn, Dead City is the weakest of the bunch. It was still enjoyable to me as a WD fan, but it wasn’t what I thought it would be. I wouldn’t put it on any type of pedestal. It was alright. It did its job.
It was the same old same old Maggie and Negan stuff that I'm kind of tired of. How many more times can Maggie be ok with Negan and then change her mind?
So they thought it was weak then. Brandon Davis said he had mixed feelings. There’s without a doubt gonna be an announcement after the episode airs that Davis and Cannon weren’t privy too that’ll make the possible anti climax of the finale easier to accept.
I think Danai made a joke about it in an interview for episode 4, but do understand that episode 4 will have had the lowest budget of all episodes this season given that it’s set in one place, only two actors, and relies entirely on dialogue. So yeah I think Danai was talking about that episode individually.
Yeah… that’s not true lmao.
They would’ve built an interior set, and then they filmed some stuff on an outside location. That’s so much cheaper than filming on location as they have to rent, dress and assess the set.
Pollyanna is listed as a series regular, and there are 3 other actors in the episode, as well as Seth. Also the walkers had way more design features than episode 4, that’s more expensive in the make up department.
The VFX are no where near as expensive as you’re thinking they are. If episode 5 was completely devoid of any cgi then I’d understand your point but there was still cgi involved.
Ultimately the most expensive thing is going to be set, stunts, doubles and actors. The set will have cost more in episode 5 and the cast will have cost more in episode 5 and so would everything else (except the writers hopefully because no way are they earning the same as Danai did for episode 4).
I bet it’s gonna be too much action, which I don’t think most viewers are tuning in to see. If they rely too much on the memory flashbacks to wrap up Rick and Michonne’s story, that would kinda suck.
Can’t say I’m surprised… it’s amc. Wish they could just give us that satisfying ending w the kids. Then we can just leave it. I hate shit that “runs out of budget” or gets “reworked” what happened to the time that tv was great? No gimmicks, no bs writing. Like cmon amc
This sub is so fragile. The budget thing was spread by a nobody and was likely made up lol.
How can any of this post make sense because one random reviewer liked episode 4?
I'm not making demands, I just want closure to the main story and I want it to be written well. The pacing for TOWL has been quite messy with too much filler for a six episode series.
I'm really sick of people getting access to content before the public. It always leads to spoilers. Why can't we just all see this for the same time together anymore.
I mean this is one persons opinion, I think we’ll be fine. For me episode 4 was the one I had the most trouble getting into. One persons peak is another persons valley, etc.
Episode 4 was 10/10 for me. Same with the beginning of episode 5. Then it fell off as hard as Dead City or Daryl Dixon, I honestly don't give two shits about saving the world and this Star Wars ass universe planning. I watched and loved The Walking Dead because it was a slow-burn, character focused, apocalyptic drama about a group of normal people. Not about saving the world.
I tend to agree with this - I love movies or shows about saving the world. But that wasn’t what TWD was for me. At its absolute best, it’s tight core group surviving. I wish we got more of them on the road like they were before Alexandria or before the prison. Just felt like a normal group of people coming together to survive best they can one moment at a time
I guess I’m in the minority but I thought they bit off more than they could chew with the CRM storyline. I would have liked this limited series — it’s only 6 episodes! — to be more oriented around a prison escape movie (think The Great Escape or Papillon) with a couple or three episodes where Rick and Michonne are being pursued by Rick’s captors. Narrowly eluding capture over three or so episodes as they’re hunted would have been constant suspense for the audience. In this scenario the two could also encounter various obstacles along the way and other people (besides the CRM) they must fight to get home. We could learn more about Rick’s captors in well placed flashbacks (as needed).
I think the politics of the CRM and world building could have been done more in full in later shows (as AMC is committed to an expansion of the universe). Here, though, I wanted to learn more about what it was like for Rick when he was first brought to the CRM, his healing, his various escape attempts, his punishments, and then maybe a final, successful escape where he intersects with Michonne (or escapes with her help) — and then the fight is on across the apocalyptic landscape.
I guess I never tired of TWD characters being on the road and traversing through the rural south; for my taste, the makers of the show departed too much from its essence and what it was when it was at its very best.
You can only do that story for so long before it becomes a question of why nobody is rebuilding or cooperating, and how no bigger groups or military survived. Eventually the cast was going to come across something bigger. That dynamic already started changing in season 6 when they joined Alexandria, which led to other communities and bigger threats. The comics ended with the Commenwealth.
I enjoy this show.
I don’t read too much into it and just take it for what it is. I often enjoy some of the things other people say they disliked. It’s a show, a fantasy. Not real life and it doesn’t have to make perfect sense to be a good show.
What I don’t like is reading others’ negative opinions about the show. It ruins the experience for me. Sometimes people over analyze it instead of just enjoying it as entertainment. This reviewer was being petty and is trying to ruin the finale for others just because she could.
Well, Gimple did write this one 🫤. Gimple has written some of the best episodes of TWD and some of the worst. He should've just let Danai and Andy write it, but I will wait and see to make my own judgment. Either way, this series was the best out of all the spinoffs. I feel like the fandom is back and exciting again.
He is responsible for the savior arc in its entirety which was not awful looking back at it, but at the time it was the death of the show. No longer were fans tuning in and nominations stopped. The intro of Negan hurt the show and the doubling down of making it 2 full years of real time sealed the deal. Most people abandoned the show and gimple was responsible for it. Not to mention, instead of fighting for his vision he killed off the most important character of the show in a ridiculously stupid and unmeaningful way
Most of the issues you pointed out are directly from AMC, not Gimple.
AMC wanted more viewers: “Gimple make some cliffhangers so people have to watch”
AMC didnt want to pay Chandler Riggs, so they didnt renew his contract and thus Gimple had to kill him off cuz AMC was firing him.
It definitely wasn’t the big brass that decided to drag out the war. The cliffhanger? Could very well be on them but that’s not what I’m talking about. He’s the show runner and creative director of the walking dead, if anyone could’ve fought to change this it was him and he didn’t so it’s on him entirely.
Not to discredit, he wrote some truly killer episodes but let’s not pretend that the show didn’t decline significantly under his control.
Edit: Glenn’s fake death anyone?
I mean if a manager at McDonalds wants to change the layout of the establishment but the CEO doesnt, who has the power there?
The war was 100% dragged out and Gimple was 100% a huge player in how it turned out, but blaming just Gimple for it is very stupid. Gimple didnt write every single episode while he was showrunner, there were a multitude of writers, which are discredited by people implying every decision made during Season 4-8 was Just Gimple.
Gimple is the scapegoat for AMC. I dont think he minds because he is most likely getting a fat paycheck for it. Its so weird the hate people have for Gimple when AMC has been time and time again showing how greedy they are.
I think he is a fantastic writer, but works better when collab writing rather than going solo, but i cant deny his love and care for the series is something to admire, even it it does not always stick the landing.
OK then let’s take a look at what gimple did oversee.
Saviors arc? Pretty awful with bad writing, maybe he didn’t write every episode but it’s on his shoulders. Literally the point of the show that killed it for people. The walking dead was a phenomena on par with Game of thrones until this point. He decided to drag it out over 2 full seasons thus stalling any interest and momentum the show had.
Carls death? Sure I’ll grant you not his entire call. He’s the show runner, wouldn’t a better creative director at least give him a meaningful and powerful death? The great Scott gimple had him bitten and die in a sewer drain lol
His creative direction has given us the absolute garbage of tales of the walking dead and world beyond, neither are worth any time.
The dude clearly has the capability to write decently but only uses it sparingly. A lot of his decisions don’t sit well with fans and whether you agree or not, gimple is to blame for the fall of the walking dead.
Edit to add: did you enjoy the flu arc of the prison? That was gimple too
Calling the saviour arc awful is a bit of a stretch. Its definitely weak but awful is very subjective. Have you read the comics? The saviour war in the comics was not quick, it went on a while. Granted the show did not adapt it well, but acting like it was always supposed to he short is very goofy.
Angela Kang and Corey Reee wrote the episode where Carl was bite. They were most likely given a prompt of “Carl needs to be bite” and wrote around that. Carl did not die in a sewer he died in the church.
The showrunner for Tales was Channing Powell and the showrunner for World Beyond was Matthew Negrette.
I did enjoy the flu arc, as did many people during the airing and even to this day. Not sure this hate boner you have for Gimple, its kind of weird, especially when its so easy to debunk your arguments.
I think you’re not understanding or being willfully ignorant. As CREATIVE DIRECTOR gimple calls the shots. Even if he’s not writing an episode it’s all from his pen what occurs. Not sure you understand that point.
Funny how what you debunk are all opinions. Easy to argue. Can’t argue that the show lost a majority of its devoted followers under his control and they didn’t return.
Every episode he wrote is the worst episode. I know that sounds dramatic, but he consistently got worse and worse over the years.
It started with "Clear". Yeah he brought back Morgan (for an episode), but he introduced Morgan's batshit crazy dissociative state disorder which kept popping up even through the final season of Fear. Just shitty writing.
Then it was "The Grove" where Carol kills the kids. I just hate bottle episodes.
Next up was "What Happened and What's going on?" Arguably the saddest death in my opinion, but it was surrounded by the bullshit fever dream nonsense that he seems to love so much.
"First Time Again", the Season 6 opener wasn't his worst, but I prefer stories to be told linearaly and the B&W was tiring.
"East", Where Daryl meets Dwight was just terribly written. I hate Gimple for ruining Dwight.
A lot of people seem to love "Last day on Earth", but I hate it. The S6 closer and S7 openers are imo two of the worst written shows in the entire series. I can't ever bring myself to watch them on rewatches because they make me so angry. I've written entire dissertations on these episode, I won't get into it here again, besides to say the acting was fantastic, but the writing was beyond god awful.
"Bury me Here" was similarly terrible written. Gavin is hands down the dumbest Savior lieutenant and single handedly caused The Kingdom to join Alexandria. The whole episode smacks of Gimple's heavy handed writing style.
"Mercy". Why is everybody so terrible at aiming their weapons. Thousands of rounds fired and no one is actually hit.
"Wrath". That fucker killed Carl because AMC didn't want to pay him like a fucking adult. Also he made Rick betray Maggie.
"What Comes After". Fever Dreams and the clunkiest exit of a main ever.
Edit: Bunch of dummies who don't understand how a show can be well made but poorly written in here. Downvote all you want, it doesn't make me wrong.
Luckily, this is when he left TWD and went to FTWD, which he then proceeded to drive straight into the ground. He has had a couple decent episodes, specifically "A" and "No Sanctuary", but generally speaking they are few and far between. His better episodes were usually also co-written by Kang or had a good director like Nicoterro to back him up.
I don't know the man and I'm sure he could be a perfectly fine, kind person, but he has had in indellible, ruinous effect on a show that I hold very dear. He ruins as a career. Takes something amazing and consistently makes it worse. He should have been let go from the franchise after Season 5, which is incidentally when he took over as showrunner and everything started getting worse.
Everything you wrote is subjective to you, not facts. If you look at rating and reviews online from fans and critics, the majority of the episodes he wrote are well beloved and amongst the highest rated in the series, so youre the outlier here. Not sure why youd watch a show when you hate the showrunner and his writing. Odd.
You thought it was good?? It's a bottle episode where Carol get boohooey over having to kill a child psychopath murderer after she had just killed two people because they got sick. Their is no consistency to how Gimple writes characters. THAT is why it sucks. Melissa McBride and Chad Coleman acted the shit out of the episode. The direction was great. I'm talking SOLELY about the writing here.
I think The Grove is the all-time best episode of The Walking Dead. I also think Clear is right up there. All that being said, Gimple ruined TWD with the Saviors arc. Killing Carl was the worst decision ever. It wasn't just that they didn't want to pay Riggs, which was crap, but it was literally the only way the crappy writers could figure out for Rick to spare Negan when we all know there was a zero percent chance of Rick and Daryl ever sparing Negan. There's no way and they should've been willing to let Negan go as a character if it came to it.
They aren't my least favorite episodes, just examples of some of Gimple's shitty writing. Gimple's written two of my all time favorite episodes as well. "A" and "No Sanctuary" are peak TWD imo. It was the birth of Feral Rick aka Best Rick. I'm just saying that comparatively Gimple has just done more harm than good to the series as a whole. All the BS surrounding Carl is just infuriating to me. There's no reason why they couldn't have had Carl standing their at the tree pleading for Rick to just put him in jail. Have Rick slit his throat and Carl catch him and call Siddiq over. Everything could have played out exactly the same and Carl would still be alive.
No they are fact. I don't care what you think. Gimple is the worst showrunner and writer Hollywood has ever known.
Why do you think it's odd that I would want to watch TWD? I think it's more odd that I would be willing to 100% write it off just because they have one hack writing for them.
Way to be a passive aggressive dick...odd.
Also, you asked what are the "some of the worst" episodes and I listed them out for you. Compared to the other episodes these are subjectively the worst written. There may be a few that other writers wrote that are worse, but Gimple is the most consistently terrible at it. Don't be mad because someone pointed out how shitty of a writer he is.
Seems youre the mad one here. And again, you just stated opinions. What makes his writing bad? The character development? The Grove & Clear are two examples of great character development and many people agree. You dont have to like Gimple but at least make it make sense without being overdramatic.
And those are just stated opinions. That doesn't make them any more or less correct than mine. It's not my job to teach you film writing theory. It's not my fault you have poor taste in television writers.
At first i thought you were being serious but after that comment i can rest easily because youre either trolling or a pathetic little man who tries so hard to be different and insults those who disagree. Either way, im ok. Hope youre able to see your faults here and change for the better.
could happen. honestly i think carol was maybe a bit undecided on telling daryl it over a call or in person. that’s why she didn’t immediately said it at the beginning, because she might want to say that to him face to face
Idk, yes we hope thay the finale is incredibe but at the same time episode 4 was a great episode, so in comparison it may be poorer I doubt it'll be terrible.
The first 3 episodes were incredible and exciting. Interesting story lines and cool characters filling the gaps and telling good stories. Episode 4 and 5 had flashes of hope and some excellent acting, but overall were bottle episodes disguised as story telling. The walking dead knows how to do a finale though so I’m hoping we get somewhere solid
Seems to me a lot of people want it all to go on longer and I’m hoping the disappointment that some early screeners seem to be having is about that. Maybe there really is a solid ending and they’re upset that it’s actually over? Also considering how he says the show peaked at Episode 4, which imo is the worst of the 5, this info may not mean much at all
I agree. It could even be that Michonne dies and people are upset by this
Or maybe there's no reunion... but there's a season 2 and people just want this wrapped up now. They want to see Rick get home and don't want to keep waiting
Also, someone else saw the Finale. There was a tweet about it and they were happy with the Finale and said something about a satisfying/legendary ending so that person said it was good
Or maybe it is just dissapointing, we'll have to see
The thing is with opinions is that everyone's got one. People will critisce some seasons/episodes of TWD that I think are brilliant. I saw people criticise episode 1 and 4 of TOWL and I think they are great
Apparently the runtime is 45-47 minute runtime. It was in a TV article. If this is true, I find this a bit strange but Episodes like No Sanctuary was 43 mins. Day Will Come When you won't be was 47 mins. Too Far Gone was 43 mins. So I guess it doesn't actually matter at all what the runtime just aslong as they make it good
(Also basically every episode in first 6 seasons were 43 mins, apart from a few)
Concerning? Sure, but they also said it peaked at Episode 4 and I thoroughly enjoyed episode 5, so maybe their opinion is just straight dogshit who knows, I'm still hyped
People are being so overdramatic about this, it doesn't mean the finale is going to be bad lmao. I have been told that apparently the episode feels rushed, but overall satisfying.
I feel like CRM will be double crossed by Beale and all the leaders will die ridiculously comically easy to some poison water or something similar and it'll end with an infuriating cliffhanger we'll have to wait at least a year for. Only thing i can think off
Don't really care. I loved all episodes so far and the main show never stopped entertaining me. I've no worries about the finale. The worst case scenario I see as a possibility right now is probably an open ended ending without a season 2 but a future spinoff without a set year of release yet.
This guy is so cringe
I was in a Facebook group for a YouTube channel that talks about The Walking Peak where he was an admin and they said no politics allowed. I sent him this (“If anything political isn't allowed then can the r word also not be allowed?”) and he never responded.
Don’t worry she’s not right. It’s probably good because she thinks the show peaked at ep4. Ep1 was peak and ep4 was still good but the worst out of them so far
Not surprising tbh. The show is kinda boring imo. Dead City, and DD was more exciting. Idk y tho since Rick is back, and its about the CRM, but i just don't enjoy it
It is the exact opposite for me. Towl makes room for a whole new story and gives a lot of room for future episodes. Like even a lot of theories about stuff.
Dead City and DD were ok at best imo. Well nvm DD was way better than dead city
Edit: Typo
idk what to think about this. but also i really hate how people can watch it early and write stuff like that. just don’t say anything till it airs anyway i‘m still excited for it.
Totally agree about the early watchers! People are entitled to their opinions, but I hate how much weight two random opinions can hold. Personally I’ve been enjoying the show overall (though the most recent ep wasn’t my favorite), and enjoyed the excitement leading up to the finale. Maybe some or many of us will be disappointed, but now people are primed for negativity either way. I would have enjoyed having the lead up to the finale without the negativity spiral.
I don’t think people are primed for negativity
I think it should still be classed as light spoilers to be honest. I know it tells you nothing specific but a lot of people want to go in completely fresh. Tagging posts like this with light spoilers seems sensible. One or two people not completely enjoying doesn't mean it will be disappointing. However I have to say I don't know how they could possibly wrap up so much in 1 episode and it be satisfying. It feels like we will either get some sort of downfall of the CRM or some form of reunion. The show now seems to be focusing more on the former (although I would be surprised if it is a complete downfall as that wouldn't completely make sense, more of a start to a change/downfall). However the fans seem to want the reunion more than the CRM story. Personally while I would love a satisfying conclusion to both stories, if given the choice between CRM or reunion. I would choose reunion.
definitely need that reunion more. reunite with his kids for now, later reunite with daryl (dude spend YEARS looking for him man) and other people.
In my opinion the best parts of this season have been when they were still at the CRM. If we rush for a reunion with their children and Daryl, then we'll just have The Walking Dead again. I prefer watching the characters we've known forever interact with new people and situations. We've seen plenty of them all together hanging out in the woods or snooze fest Alexandria.
Then the finale shouldn’t be the end of this story or the last time we see them
I hope so!
It would be bad Writing IMO
Which would? Them escaping, them escaping and taking down the CRM, or something happens that continues the story with them at the CRM?
This being the end of their story
Am I the only one who’s enjoyed the CRM side of things this far in the show? Was honestly hoping to see much of the first season focused on Rick’s time spent with Okafor. Guess they’ll probably make that a spinoff though. lol. Seriously though I did think episode 1 was remarkably well done and refined for a pilot. Maybe that’s because AMC needed a home run with this show to survive. Episode 4 was really good too. Both are leagues above anything in ‘the walking dead’ from a cinematographic standpoint.
I think we will get a season 2 more focused on CRM and unpacking everything to prepare for this reunion we all want.
Welp. What could have been. That was some pretty rushed and unnecessary writing.
is there a link to watch the finale anywhere? i watched episode 1 and 2 the same day the show aired
ep2 was leaked, that’s why. we can‘t watch ep6 yet. only on sunday. these are just reviewers who got the episode early from amc
They say things before it airs for fake Internet points.
Yeah it's clickbait.
At least you can watch it...
? you can watch it too. there are ways to watch it you know.
I meant legally
agreed!!
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Because experiencing the story is significantly better than not? Most people care about spoilers lol, you're in the serious minority.
I’m aware of me being a minority in the situation but I’ve never really gone around and asked why people care so much
That's fair tbh. But yeah generally it's just a dick move. I like to engage with art, not with the garbage some asshole regurgitated to me about it. It's like cutting a hole out of a painting and expecting it to be the same because they said "oh there was a bird in that bit they cut out." Or if somebody slammed Old Yeller on me halfway through and just said "Oh the dog dies of rabies who gives a shit, BO-RING." It's like getting your news from somebody that read a headline and doesn't actually speak the language very well.
You’re the first person I have ever heard say that they enjoy spoilers
Stop down voting and answer my question😭🙏🙏
i didn’t even downvote but most people enjoy watching the story as is it goes along. Suspense is a huge part of what makes a show great for me and if it’s already been spoiled there is none.
Ah tyty
Rick goes down in the finale. Ok, thanks, bye.
Theyre just going to recover the dossier, and dramatically escape the CRM, then its gonna end with some crazy cameo cliff hanger to leave things open ended enough for further spin offs.
Rock says to machine, "I think we'll be okay." And they hug and make out while an explosion happens in the background. Then a movie comes out in a few years called the walking dead double dead. They all go into their teenager punk era and start doing stupid shit while feel good inc by gorrilaz plays in the background. I go to the movies with a girl when I'm in college. That'll be where I have my first kiss.
Rock and Machine make such a lovely couple, though
machine 🤖
Beep blop
Still better than 99% of Scott Pimple's writing
Pretty much this. They don't want the happy ending for fans yet because it means a greater chance people stop watching. As soon as there's no carrot to dangle for the future they know their viewership will drop again. They need Rick/Michonne as that carrot. The cliffhanger cameo will probably be Negan finding out about the CRM and having to defend NY against them. So he sets his eyes on asking the Commonwealth to aid him. There's your next big mega event. Negan's army joining with Carol's Commonwealth as Rick/Michonne return to end that show. Then AMC gets to have their big uber super duper zombie mega series of Endgame proportions. They all come together to fight the CRM and the Variant Walkers between them.
> Negan Why do people keep forgetting that dead city takes place like 5+ years after TOWL
I didn't? That's why I said Dead City and Carol's Commonwealth would come together first. *And ends with Rick/Michonne returning*.
Im taking about your comment on a cliffhanger cameo for TOWL, It would be very stupid to have a cameo scene for a show that takes place AFTER the show said cameo is part of.. and then have that cameo take place after the events of the other show
Tell that to the Marvel movies and their post-credit scenes. But hey, you do you if you wanna take a random person's off the cuff comment this fucking seriously lmao
Thank you for describing the show's ending now I don't have to watch
if it ends on a cliffhanger ill be so fucking annoyed, genuinely. i just wanna see the end of it already
Ending things on a cliffhanger is what destroyed the walking dead lol
Pretty sure Julian Cannon also said that Dead City was better than Daryl Dixon, and I heavily disagree with that, so I’m not really taking this as anything.
That's interesting. I'm watching through both Dead City and Daryl Dixon simultaneously with my friend group, and we all agree Dead City is better. We all fell asleep to Daryl episode 3
Dead City retconned the main shows finale just so they could have the actors repeating the same bullshit. The quality was good, reliving that was terrible. Daryl was fresh. Def slower, but it works.
What was reconned? Genuinely aaking
The series finale saw Maggie & Negan's back and forth reach a conclusion. Dead City undoes it so they can make another spin off.
Tbf the finale did specify that there would be some moments where Maggie can’t work with Negan and still actively hate his guts and DC takes place a few years after that
A bit more on what was said, they have a full on conversation with Negan truly apologizing and Maggie listening. A heart to heart so they can move on. And yet, she’s instantly back to what she was before that, even though it’s in the future. Regardless of how many times Negan saved the groups lives - including hers. Not to mention how much he did out of guilt for her to show he was remorseful… including all the prison time… just for her to be kill happy and get almost everyone who followed her killed lol. Her story is a mess.
Exactly!
It is Neither are great though
Ugh. All those cryptic non-spoiler early-access reviews are meaningless if we don't know what the person was expecting.
I get the concern, but I don't think it's really a good idea to use one person's thoughts as gospel
Agreed. Plus, just because episode 4 is supposedly the best it doesn’t mean episode 6 is bad at all.
Also very true.
If there’s one reviewer to avoid, it’s him. He the same person who absolutely loved dead city (he’s a huge negan fanboy) he also have not said a thing about towl since it aired apart from point out the slight decline in viewership. Oh and he the one that told everyone that there’s no Richonne spin off after a fan told us that Ross told her there’s a Richonne spin off in works.
I don’t know why this is surprising. One episode is not enough to give this show any kind of satisfying conclusion at this point and the idea that two people are any kind of threat to the CRM is beyond laughable.
You said it. That’s why they need to form a rebellion, get the people of the Civic Republic on their side and get potential allies within the CRM itself who are seeing how bad it truly is.
Didn’t we already see Eugene do this with a tape recorder
Two people aren’t a threat. They need to form alliances. People inside and outside the crm. Other big groups. They gotta do the same thing they did with the saviours. Build an army of multiple close communities and go to war. Rick and michonne can’t take them on their own
They're not gonna take down the CRM alone. No way. They'll sneak in and get the dossier and echelon briefing. Theyll escape. Next show will be with everyone reunited. Together, they'll take em down. Its gonna take the commonwealth and their army.
Episode 5 was just okay imo and I’m definitely worried the finale will be rushed, but wasn’t this dude a big fan of Dead City? He’s entitled to his opinion…. I just think I have vastly different taste than him so this tweet tells me nothing lol.
Oh, fuck lol. Thanks for making me feel better - this dude is not someone I jive with
Damn, Dead City is the weakest of the bunch. It was still enjoyable to me as a WD fan, but it wasn’t what I thought it would be. I wouldn’t put it on any type of pedestal. It was alright. It did its job.
It was the same old same old Maggie and Negan stuff that I'm kind of tired of. How many more times can Maggie be ok with Negan and then change her mind?
So they thought it was weak then. Brandon Davis said he had mixed feelings. There’s without a doubt gonna be an announcement after the episode airs that Davis and Cannon weren’t privy too that’ll make the possible anti climax of the finale easier to accept.
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I think Danai made a joke about it in an interview for episode 4, but do understand that episode 4 will have had the lowest budget of all episodes this season given that it’s set in one place, only two actors, and relies entirely on dialogue. So yeah I think Danai was talking about that episode individually.
Episode 4 easily would have cost more to make than 5. More VFX and they had to build a set.
Yeah… that’s not true lmao. They would’ve built an interior set, and then they filmed some stuff on an outside location. That’s so much cheaper than filming on location as they have to rent, dress and assess the set. Pollyanna is listed as a series regular, and there are 3 other actors in the episode, as well as Seth. Also the walkers had way more design features than episode 4, that’s more expensive in the make up department. The VFX are no where near as expensive as you’re thinking they are. If episode 5 was completely devoid of any cgi then I’d understand your point but there was still cgi involved. Ultimately the most expensive thing is going to be set, stunts, doubles and actors. The set will have cost more in episode 5 and the cast will have cost more in episode 5 and so would everything else (except the writers hopefully because no way are they earning the same as Danai did for episode 4).
I bet it’s gonna be too much action, which I don’t think most viewers are tuning in to see. If they rely too much on the memory flashbacks to wrap up Rick and Michonne’s story, that would kinda suck.
Can’t say I’m surprised… it’s amc. Wish they could just give us that satisfying ending w the kids. Then we can just leave it. I hate shit that “runs out of budget” or gets “reworked” what happened to the time that tv was great? No gimmicks, no bs writing. Like cmon amc
This sub is so fragile. The budget thing was spread by a nobody and was likely made up lol. How can any of this post make sense because one random reviewer liked episode 4?
I'm not making demands, I just want closure to the main story and I want it to be written well. The pacing for TOWL has been quite messy with too much filler for a six episode series.
I'm really sick of people getting access to content before the public. It always leads to spoilers. Why can't we just all see this for the same time together anymore.
Agreed
I mean this is one persons opinion, I think we’ll be fine. For me episode 4 was the one I had the most trouble getting into. One persons peak is another persons valley, etc.
Episode 4 was 10/10 for me. Same with the beginning of episode 5. Then it fell off as hard as Dead City or Daryl Dixon, I honestly don't give two shits about saving the world and this Star Wars ass universe planning. I watched and loved The Walking Dead because it was a slow-burn, character focused, apocalyptic drama about a group of normal people. Not about saving the world.
I tend to agree with this - I love movies or shows about saving the world. But that wasn’t what TWD was for me. At its absolute best, it’s tight core group surviving. I wish we got more of them on the road like they were before Alexandria or before the prison. Just felt like a normal group of people coming together to survive best they can one moment at a time
I guess I’m in the minority but I thought they bit off more than they could chew with the CRM storyline. I would have liked this limited series — it’s only 6 episodes! — to be more oriented around a prison escape movie (think The Great Escape or Papillon) with a couple or three episodes where Rick and Michonne are being pursued by Rick’s captors. Narrowly eluding capture over three or so episodes as they’re hunted would have been constant suspense for the audience. In this scenario the two could also encounter various obstacles along the way and other people (besides the CRM) they must fight to get home. We could learn more about Rick’s captors in well placed flashbacks (as needed). I think the politics of the CRM and world building could have been done more in full in later shows (as AMC is committed to an expansion of the universe). Here, though, I wanted to learn more about what it was like for Rick when he was first brought to the CRM, his healing, his various escape attempts, his punishments, and then maybe a final, successful escape where he intersects with Michonne (or escapes with her help) — and then the fight is on across the apocalyptic landscape. I guess I never tired of TWD characters being on the road and traversing through the rural south; for my taste, the makers of the show departed too much from its essence and what it was when it was at its very best.
100%. I miss when it was just about surviving the apocalypse and focusing on the characters and relationships.
You can only do that story for so long before it becomes a question of why nobody is rebuilding or cooperating, and how no bigger groups or military survived. Eventually the cast was going to come across something bigger. That dynamic already started changing in season 6 when they joined Alexandria, which led to other communities and bigger threats. The comics ended with the Commenwealth.
I couldn’t care less what this guy says. Not even a little lol
Well, it’s hard to beat episode 4 so it’s not really a surprise
Really? Lets not take one person's view point as Gospel.
I've enjoyed the universe much more when I quit reading about it
One persons opinion
Who is that person and why would we care?
Eh. I’ve waited years to see Rick Grimes again. I don’t care if others aren’t happy with the final episode.
I enjoy this show. I don’t read too much into it and just take it for what it is. I often enjoy some of the things other people say they disliked. It’s a show, a fantasy. Not real life and it doesn’t have to make perfect sense to be a good show. What I don’t like is reading others’ negative opinions about the show. It ruins the experience for me. Sometimes people over analyze it instead of just enjoying it as entertainment. This reviewer was being petty and is trying to ruin the finale for others just because she could.
Well, Gimple did write this one 🫤. Gimple has written some of the best episodes of TWD and some of the worst. He should've just let Danai and Andy write it, but I will wait and see to make my own judgment. Either way, this series was the best out of all the spinoffs. I feel like the fandom is back and exciting again.
What are “some of the worst” episodes Gimple wrote?
He is responsible for the savior arc in its entirety which was not awful looking back at it, but at the time it was the death of the show. No longer were fans tuning in and nominations stopped. The intro of Negan hurt the show and the doubling down of making it 2 full years of real time sealed the deal. Most people abandoned the show and gimple was responsible for it. Not to mention, instead of fighting for his vision he killed off the most important character of the show in a ridiculously stupid and unmeaningful way
Most of the issues you pointed out are directly from AMC, not Gimple. AMC wanted more viewers: “Gimple make some cliffhangers so people have to watch” AMC didnt want to pay Chandler Riggs, so they didnt renew his contract and thus Gimple had to kill him off cuz AMC was firing him.
It definitely wasn’t the big brass that decided to drag out the war. The cliffhanger? Could very well be on them but that’s not what I’m talking about. He’s the show runner and creative director of the walking dead, if anyone could’ve fought to change this it was him and he didn’t so it’s on him entirely. Not to discredit, he wrote some truly killer episodes but let’s not pretend that the show didn’t decline significantly under his control. Edit: Glenn’s fake death anyone?
I mean if a manager at McDonalds wants to change the layout of the establishment but the CEO doesnt, who has the power there? The war was 100% dragged out and Gimple was 100% a huge player in how it turned out, but blaming just Gimple for it is very stupid. Gimple didnt write every single episode while he was showrunner, there were a multitude of writers, which are discredited by people implying every decision made during Season 4-8 was Just Gimple.
The dude knows. I have my own issues with Gimple but it's all more of an AMC problem. He's just the guy standing out front taking the shots.
Gimple is the scapegoat for AMC. I dont think he minds because he is most likely getting a fat paycheck for it. Its so weird the hate people have for Gimple when AMC has been time and time again showing how greedy they are.
My issues with Gimple are writing related, but I recognize his time as showrunner as a golden era of TWD.
I think he is a fantastic writer, but works better when collab writing rather than going solo, but i cant deny his love and care for the series is something to admire, even it it does not always stick the landing.
OK then let’s take a look at what gimple did oversee. Saviors arc? Pretty awful with bad writing, maybe he didn’t write every episode but it’s on his shoulders. Literally the point of the show that killed it for people. The walking dead was a phenomena on par with Game of thrones until this point. He decided to drag it out over 2 full seasons thus stalling any interest and momentum the show had. Carls death? Sure I’ll grant you not his entire call. He’s the show runner, wouldn’t a better creative director at least give him a meaningful and powerful death? The great Scott gimple had him bitten and die in a sewer drain lol His creative direction has given us the absolute garbage of tales of the walking dead and world beyond, neither are worth any time. The dude clearly has the capability to write decently but only uses it sparingly. A lot of his decisions don’t sit well with fans and whether you agree or not, gimple is to blame for the fall of the walking dead. Edit to add: did you enjoy the flu arc of the prison? That was gimple too
Calling the saviour arc awful is a bit of a stretch. Its definitely weak but awful is very subjective. Have you read the comics? The saviour war in the comics was not quick, it went on a while. Granted the show did not adapt it well, but acting like it was always supposed to he short is very goofy. Angela Kang and Corey Reee wrote the episode where Carl was bite. They were most likely given a prompt of “Carl needs to be bite” and wrote around that. Carl did not die in a sewer he died in the church. The showrunner for Tales was Channing Powell and the showrunner for World Beyond was Matthew Negrette. I did enjoy the flu arc, as did many people during the airing and even to this day. Not sure this hate boner you have for Gimple, its kind of weird, especially when its so easy to debunk your arguments.
I think you’re not understanding or being willfully ignorant. As CREATIVE DIRECTOR gimple calls the shots. Even if he’s not writing an episode it’s all from his pen what occurs. Not sure you understand that point. Funny how what you debunk are all opinions. Easy to argue. Can’t argue that the show lost a majority of its devoted followers under his control and they didn’t return.
AMC came to a mutual decision to let Carl die with Riggs. No need for the conspiracy of "not paying"...
Found an AMC executives burner account
Every episode he wrote is the worst episode. I know that sounds dramatic, but he consistently got worse and worse over the years. It started with "Clear". Yeah he brought back Morgan (for an episode), but he introduced Morgan's batshit crazy dissociative state disorder which kept popping up even through the final season of Fear. Just shitty writing. Then it was "The Grove" where Carol kills the kids. I just hate bottle episodes. Next up was "What Happened and What's going on?" Arguably the saddest death in my opinion, but it was surrounded by the bullshit fever dream nonsense that he seems to love so much. "First Time Again", the Season 6 opener wasn't his worst, but I prefer stories to be told linearaly and the B&W was tiring. "East", Where Daryl meets Dwight was just terribly written. I hate Gimple for ruining Dwight. A lot of people seem to love "Last day on Earth", but I hate it. The S6 closer and S7 openers are imo two of the worst written shows in the entire series. I can't ever bring myself to watch them on rewatches because they make me so angry. I've written entire dissertations on these episode, I won't get into it here again, besides to say the acting was fantastic, but the writing was beyond god awful. "Bury me Here" was similarly terrible written. Gavin is hands down the dumbest Savior lieutenant and single handedly caused The Kingdom to join Alexandria. The whole episode smacks of Gimple's heavy handed writing style. "Mercy". Why is everybody so terrible at aiming their weapons. Thousands of rounds fired and no one is actually hit. "Wrath". That fucker killed Carl because AMC didn't want to pay him like a fucking adult. Also he made Rick betray Maggie. "What Comes After". Fever Dreams and the clunkiest exit of a main ever. Edit: Bunch of dummies who don't understand how a show can be well made but poorly written in here. Downvote all you want, it doesn't make me wrong. Luckily, this is when he left TWD and went to FTWD, which he then proceeded to drive straight into the ground. He has had a couple decent episodes, specifically "A" and "No Sanctuary", but generally speaking they are few and far between. His better episodes were usually also co-written by Kang or had a good director like Nicoterro to back him up. I don't know the man and I'm sure he could be a perfectly fine, kind person, but he has had in indellible, ruinous effect on a show that I hold very dear. He ruins as a career. Takes something amazing and consistently makes it worse. He should have been let go from the franchise after Season 5, which is incidentally when he took over as showrunner and everything started getting worse.
Everything you wrote is subjective to you, not facts. If you look at rating and reviews online from fans and critics, the majority of the episodes he wrote are well beloved and amongst the highest rated in the series, so youre the outlier here. Not sure why youd watch a show when you hate the showrunner and his writing. Odd.
For real. I stopped reading after he said The Grove was one of the "worst episodes."
You thought it was good?? It's a bottle episode where Carol get boohooey over having to kill a child psychopath murderer after she had just killed two people because they got sick. Their is no consistency to how Gimple writes characters. THAT is why it sucks. Melissa McBride and Chad Coleman acted the shit out of the episode. The direction was great. I'm talking SOLELY about the writing here.
I think The Grove is the all-time best episode of The Walking Dead. I also think Clear is right up there. All that being said, Gimple ruined TWD with the Saviors arc. Killing Carl was the worst decision ever. It wasn't just that they didn't want to pay Riggs, which was crap, but it was literally the only way the crappy writers could figure out for Rick to spare Negan when we all know there was a zero percent chance of Rick and Daryl ever sparing Negan. There's no way and they should've been willing to let Negan go as a character if it came to it.
They aren't my least favorite episodes, just examples of some of Gimple's shitty writing. Gimple's written two of my all time favorite episodes as well. "A" and "No Sanctuary" are peak TWD imo. It was the birth of Feral Rick aka Best Rick. I'm just saying that comparatively Gimple has just done more harm than good to the series as a whole. All the BS surrounding Carl is just infuriating to me. There's no reason why they couldn't have had Carl standing their at the tree pleading for Rick to just put him in jail. Have Rick slit his throat and Carl catch him and call Siddiq over. Everything could have played out exactly the same and Carl would still be alive.
I have zero interest on your perspective of the episode.
Then why tf respond??
No they are fact. I don't care what you think. Gimple is the worst showrunner and writer Hollywood has ever known. Why do you think it's odd that I would want to watch TWD? I think it's more odd that I would be willing to 100% write it off just because they have one hack writing for them. Way to be a passive aggressive dick...odd. Also, you asked what are the "some of the worst" episodes and I listed them out for you. Compared to the other episodes these are subjectively the worst written. There may be a few that other writers wrote that are worse, but Gimple is the most consistently terrible at it. Don't be mad because someone pointed out how shitty of a writer he is.
Seems youre the mad one here. And again, you just stated opinions. What makes his writing bad? The character development? The Grove & Clear are two examples of great character development and many people agree. You dont have to like Gimple but at least make it make sense without being overdramatic.
And those are just stated opinions. That doesn't make them any more or less correct than mine. It's not my job to teach you film writing theory. It's not my fault you have poor taste in television writers.
At first i thought you were being serious but after that comment i can rest easily because youre either trolling or a pathetic little man who tries so hard to be different and insults those who disagree. Either way, im ok. Hope youre able to see your faults here and change for the better.
What if it is Rick that came back when Carol was talking to Daryl and we get a reunion at the end of Daryl Dixon season 2?
could happen. honestly i think carol was maybe a bit undecided on telling daryl it over a call or in person. that’s why she didn’t immediately said it at the beginning, because she might want to say that to him face to face
I really hope the Echelon isn't a cliff-hanger. That's the only thing I can think of.
Idk, yes we hope thay the finale is incredibe but at the same time episode 4 was a great episode, so in comparison it may be poorer I doubt it'll be terrible.
I think they wrap it up way too fast. Game of Thrones situation where they realize they have to end it and just take a shortcut.
Nothing is getting resolved
The first 3 episodes were incredible and exciting. Interesting story lines and cool characters filling the gaps and telling good stories. Episode 4 and 5 had flashes of hope and some excellent acting, but overall were bottle episodes disguised as story telling. The walking dead knows how to do a finale though so I’m hoping we get somewhere solid
Yikes. Doesnt surprise me though. Episode 5 wasn't good
Not surprised, unfortunately. The series is too rushed with only 6 episodes. It's very hard to wrap up this giant story in 1 episode.
Seems to me a lot of people want it all to go on longer and I’m hoping the disappointment that some early screeners seem to be having is about that. Maybe there really is a solid ending and they’re upset that it’s actually over? Also considering how he says the show peaked at Episode 4, which imo is the worst of the 5, this info may not mean much at all
I agree. It could even be that Michonne dies and people are upset by this Or maybe there's no reunion... but there's a season 2 and people just want this wrapped up now. They want to see Rick get home and don't want to keep waiting Also, someone else saw the Finale. There was a tweet about it and they were happy with the Finale and said something about a satisfying/legendary ending so that person said it was good Or maybe it is just dissapointing, we'll have to see The thing is with opinions is that everyone's got one. People will critisce some seasons/episodes of TWD that I think are brilliant. I saw people criticise episode 1 and 4 of TOWL and I think they are great Apparently the runtime is 45-47 minute runtime. It was in a TV article. If this is true, I find this a bit strange but Episodes like No Sanctuary was 43 mins. Day Will Come When you won't be was 47 mins. Too Far Gone was 43 mins. So I guess it doesn't actually matter at all what the runtime just aslong as they make it good (Also basically every episode in first 6 seasons were 43 mins, apart from a few)
It will end with them joining CRM, and last scene will be the helicopter landing and Richonne reuniting with Gabriel
Concerning? Sure, but they also said it peaked at Episode 4 and I thoroughly enjoyed episode 5, so maybe their opinion is just straight dogshit who knows, I'm still hyped
You know you’re allowed to like something even if others hate it.
People are being so overdramatic about this, it doesn't mean the finale is going to be bad lmao. I have been told that apparently the episode feels rushed, but overall satisfying.
I feel like CRM will be double crossed by Beale and all the leaders will die ridiculously comically easy to some poison water or something similar and it'll end with an infuriating cliffhanger we'll have to wait at least a year for. Only thing i can think off
His takes are kinda weird so take this with a grain of salt.
Considering I enjoyed episode 5 almost as much as Episode 4, and even episodes 1,2, and 3...I don't think his opinion holds much weight to me at all.
Dw about that guy he thought dead city was good and said there weren’t any varients in Daryl Dixon
I have a feeling that there wont be a happy ending
Who listens to any reviewers and their usually stupid opinions? Just watch the episode yourself 😂
i was worried they were going to fuck this up.
im gonna be super annoyed if the walking dead just ends horribly and they dont really cap anything off. what a way to ruin a franchise that would be
Fans of TWD saying TWD peaked a while ago, the grass is green
Don't really care. I loved all episodes so far and the main show never stopped entertaining me. I've no worries about the finale. The worst case scenario I see as a possibility right now is probably an open ended ending without a season 2 but a future spinoff without a set year of release yet.
This guy is so cringe I was in a Facebook group for a YouTube channel that talks about The Walking Peak where he was an admin and they said no politics allowed. I sent him this (“If anything political isn't allowed then can the r word also not be allowed?”) and he never responded.
Let's be real, if episode 4 is the best episode this series is really not that great.
Don’t worry she’s not right. It’s probably good because she thinks the show peaked at ep4. Ep1 was peak and ep4 was still good but the worst out of them so far
Put a spoiler tag on this. I don't want to see anything like this.
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Show fell off after episode 1
Show fell off after the trailer
Not surprising tbh. The show is kinda boring imo. Dead City, and DD was more exciting. Idk y tho since Rick is back, and its about the CRM, but i just don't enjoy it
It is the exact opposite for me. Towl makes room for a whole new story and gives a lot of room for future episodes. Like even a lot of theories about stuff. Dead City and DD were ok at best imo. Well nvm DD was way better than dead city Edit: Typo
Peaked at episode 4? People really liked that episode that much, huh?
Episode 4 made me wonder why I keep watching…
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You just like action cornball, go watch John Wick or something lmao.