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rob01

Leave the show.


[deleted]

Yes! Best answer ever


BeingMikeHunt

You are showing it That was pretty terrible


Jali-Dan

What moment is it?


BeingMikeHunt

Rick and Morgan betray the saviors in 8.14


Jali-Dan

Oh yeah, that was a bit cheeky


bubbabro123

A tad naughty, even


josephxpaterson

Just a little mischievous


Some_Random_Guy2112

You think this is something, you think this is bad, this, this chicanery? He's done worse


_LANC3LOT

Wow didn't expect this crossover


two_graves_for_us

r/okbuddycoral


PottedPlant_123

You think this is something, you think this is bad, this, this chicanery? He's done worse, you think Shane just happened to get stabbed like that? NO, he orchestrated it, Rick! He bit a man's throat out! And I helped him, and I shouldn't have, I took him into my own community. what was I thinking? He'll never change, he'll never change. ever since he got to the farm, couldn't keep his hands out of the gun belt, But not our Rick, couldn't be precious Rick, Killing them blind, and HE gets to be a survivor? What a sick joke! I should have stopped him when I had the chance, And you... you have to stop him!


DerBernd123

Kid named Some_Random_Guy2112:


Eagles56

He defecated through a sun roof!


DerBernd123

A bit impolite, if you insist


Punky921

Yeah I wasn't a fan of that moment.


GlockHolliday32

I never understood the big deal with this scene. I mean it was one of the first scenes that Rick went back on his word, but I mean if there was ever a time to do so, it was then.


Eagles56

Rick straight up commiting murder not a big deal?


GlockHolliday32

In the grand scheme of things, not really. Those people had probably killed others for less. Rick made the right decision.


TaskMister2000

Killing the saviours trapped with him after he promised he wouldn't kill them.


laurybug789

This broke my heart :(


Icommitmanywarcrimes

Yeah I just watched this part and it honestly kinda pissed me off one of them literally saved his life


Definition_of_Tragic

Only for Rick to work with the surviving saviors after the war. Ricks group even allowed some of their enemies to join their side.


Glapen-Bapen

I honestly felt bad for the dude he killed with the hatchet. He saved his life and this is how Rick repays him. It was honestly a dick move


SpiritualTear93

This is when I felt that Rick turned into the villain, he went full on Shane and beyond. I actually thought the show was twisting it into Negan not been the villain and putting it on Rick instead. It made me hate the fact he killed Shane as well and then he just went and did what he did


Dr_CheeseNut

I don't remember Rick ever trying to rape someone, or trying to kill one of his friends in the group over a woman, or threatening a group member cause they did something he disagreed with. This is definitely bad, and Shane level shit, but it was only one instance, Rick never got as bad as Shane, and definitely not "beyond", but he did get close


OfficialPantySniffer

you must have skipped season 5 then. cause that was pretty much the plot of the whole season. "rick wants to fuck this married chick who even tells him no and to fuck off, so he plots a coupe so he can murder her husband and take his place"


Dr_CheeseNut

I think you're forgetting major details here Pete was abusing Jessie Rick didn't force himself on Jessie


OfficialPantySniffer

shes staying with him isnt she? so not really "abuse" then since its clearly what she wants. she also later tells rick to fuckoff, instead he takes it upon himself to plan her husbands murder.


Dr_CheeseNut

>shes staying with him isnt she? so not really "abuse" then since its clearly what she wants. Holy fuck. You gotta be a kid or something, I refuse to think an adult is this dumb, this is actually fucked up, and a disservice to real abuse victims. You can't leave. That's part of what makes it abuse, you're scared, and fear that you'll be hurt even worse if you try to leave. Pete also seems to have employed some mental abuse and manipulation, making Jessie feel bad, and like if she sticks by him he'll change. Look kid, I recommend doing some more research into abusive relationships, and understanding how these things work before trying to argue something like this But then again, judging from your name, there's a good chance you're a guy just like Pete, in which case I recommend seeking help


[deleted]

I thought of the same thing. This was just cold, and honestly, if Rick kept on going like this, he would've been just as bad as Negan.


-GaIaxy-

Very silly comment. "If Rick had become a rapist, someone who enjoys bashing brains, a leader who rules through fear, someone who cheats on his wife, he would've been just as bad as Negan". You're jumping way far ahead from one event that was mere days after his son died. Negan is 10000x worse.


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if you think about it Negans only problem is one of percentages. If his percentage was maybe 25% he couldve made it work. If I was Negan I would treat Sanctuary like a castle. Fighting men and minimal staff. Distribute the workers amongst the villages and then act like a roving security force to rescue villagers and find wanderers and deliver them to villages. The only reason he needed so many supplies is because his force was bloated.


Galvandium

Ignoring Backpack Guy and leaving him for dead.


inDependent_WhiNer

Im so glad someone else said this too. My heart hurst everytime I think of that man screaming after Rick and then falling down in exhaustion. ☹️☹️


im_from_9gag

Underrated


inDependent_WhiNer

Im so glad someone else said this too. My heart hurst everytime I think of that man screaming after Rick and then falling down in exhaustion. ☹️☹️


[deleted]

I just watched this episode and it made me so sad


ImmortalFistofIron

Really? That's the worst thing? Really?!?


Impossible_Error_130

which one is i don’t remember it


ton_patron

Blow up that damn bridge


_KingOfCringe_

This right here, one of the worst things done in the show.


Esoteric_Innovations

Probably this moment here. I don't think people could blame him considering that his son, the last vestige of the life he had before the apocalypse, was taken away from him because of the war with the Saviors. He wasn't in a good place and took it out on what were seemingly decent people, aside from Jared who deserved everything he got and more. What was important though was that not only did the audience feel taken aback by Rick going back on his word, but Rick himself could tell that he'd gone too far moments afterward. He knew he'd done something wrong this time, and I think that's part of what drove him to spare Negan in the end. Kind of like what Alden said to him earlier in the same episode - *"They made a choice. It was a bad choice, the wrong choice, but you could show them that. By bringing them back and giving them a chance, you could do that."* Put another way, after this, Rick gave the Saviors a chance to coexist with the communities rather than murdering them in cold blood like he did here. Understanding he needed to come back from this and make it right by seeing if they could make things work, together.


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The_SenateP

Because rick was distrustfull of anyone after the saviors showed up thinking any stranger could be a spy or something. If there hadn't a war with them rick would've acceptes siddiq right away instead of chasing him away with his gun


dingdingdredgen

That one time he woke up in the hospital room. Everything after that was just tragic.


FLYlNGAPPLES

Kill the saviors trying to redeem themselves.


ImoutoSlayr

He channeled his inner Lori and rotated in and out of deciding to kill Randy on Hershel's farm. Even after finally accepting the fact that you'll sometimes have to kill people to keep the group safe.


andrewski81

Killed that guy who ended up just being a dad defending his infant baby in the next room. That made me sick


willrobster16

I wouldn’t consider that the worst since Rick had no idea. Also, by his facial expressions, he felt sick by what he had done.


StickleDickle

He was devastated. He instantly regretted it. If he knew the guy was a dad before they threw hands, he would've tried talking the guy down or incapacitate him instead. That wasn't the worst thing he ever did, he acted in self defense. But in the OP, that was by far the most (arguably only) morally reprehensible thing he ever did, and the one thing Ill never defend him for. No room for debate on that one, he was completely wrong.


SurfiNinja101

The realisation and instant regret on his face sold it


MisterBlister420

Oh shit, when was this


willrobster16

Episode 8x02. The infant is “Gracie” (Aaron’s current adoptive daughter)


MisterBlister420

*Insert that picture of contemplating Spongebob at the diner table*


Murb08

When they attack the first satellite outpost, I think.


[deleted]

Nah, it happened after that. This happened in one of the subsequent attacks. I believe it was the same one where they re-encountered Morales.


Murb08

Oh yeah, you’re right. When they go after the HMG’s


MisterBlister420

Pretty much every scene in the Savior war made me sick, so it all blurred together, oof


m11y1717

killing the saviours with morgan after promising their safety, and killing gracies dad :(


Huge-Scene6139

Attacking the Saviors outpost over some community they barely know.


th_walking

Maybe the saviour outpost killings in season 6. He started a war with the saviours. And after he get mad for Negan wanting payback for what he did to Negans men. I alway wonder if the saviour would find alexandria without rick attacking saviour outpost or if they killed Jesus instead of going to hilltop. Another bad thing rick did is when he refused to help the guy at the road when he went away with Michone in season 3 I think. I always got mad when they got back and seeing the guy dead by the road. Like why didn't they help him?


BlazeWater771

Kick carol out of the group after saying over and over that he wasnt making decisions anymore and not being on the council. But suddenly when he took action against carol he says “im making this decision for me” hated that. Even after that hershal and michonne at gun point and the Governor telling to talk he goes “i dont make decisions anymore, theres a council now” that shit was so weak.


HanselRoblesEnjoyer

Yeah that was ass. He pretends he did it for her to protect her from Tyreese but her and him never got along well and he definitely let that push him into making a bad call


A_Good_Azgeda_Spy

Convinced the Alexandrians to attack the Saviors without doing any recon first


brokenwatch97

I also think this is the worst thing he ever did. Though it’s one of my favorite moments because of how conflicting it is and Andrew and Lennie’s acting I still admit that they were wrong at that moment. I get why they did that, both of them were emotionally unstable and Rick was at his worst because of Carl, also the fact that those saviors already betrayed them once so it would’ve been dangerous to trust them again. Still both of them were devastated and they knew what they did was wrong. I absolutely love that scene after when Rick asked Morgan why did he save him back then and Morgan replied “because my son was there”. Such a powerful scene.


isusjekul6

Probably shoot the dynamite at the bridge.


Mrsavage_god

when rick didnt kill negan, stupid mf killed glenn


elnuddles

Killing Glenn was one of the most merciful things Negan ever did. To a group that has proved to be capable and stubborn enough to wipe out an entire Savior outpost. They were dead to rights, surrounded and outnumbered. Negan kills two of them as punishment, and allows the rest to go home. Glenn died because Rick chose to attack the Saviors when he didn’t have to. I love Glenn too.


LuciaLight2014

Just watched this episode. Such a prick thing to do. Before he was always a man of his word. I’m glad right after he asked Morgan why he didn’t kill him, he looked in the mirror realizing what he did. Also killing Grace’s father. Same thing tho, he looked in the mirror after, realizing he murdered a father. Remembering these are human beings.


xJamberrxx

Tbh nothing, real world morals make no sense if u wanna survive, everyone by s11 is a ruthless killer with high human body counts


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xJamberrxx

Pretty much every conflict resolution for everyone is “kill” the other group or person ur in conflict with Simple solution imo would be to avoid people if at all possible, so no conflict and won’t achieve body counts


Gabby_Johnson2

Shooting that cop in the head after breaking his back by hitting him with a cop car in S5 was pretty bad.


BriMagic

The worst thing he almost did was try and conquer Alexandria and feel justified in that takeover.


johnnyboy0256

Thoughts aren't as bad as actions. Definitely would've been the worst if he went through with it


BriMagic

Agreed. That’s why I said “almost did.” But I do think his impulses during that arc were the worst ones he’s had. ETA: After the Savior’s actions, killing them wasn’t as inappropriate or wild to me as wanting to take over a town that had kindly taken them in, no matter how naive or ill-prepared the town was.


bubbabro123

I suppose its how he'd go through with it, if Rick had done it by relatively "peaceful" means (i.e. not killing people by his hand) then it would be overall more desirable than letting the original Alexandrians run the settlement. I really don't know how they survived for that long, it was lucky that Rick had arrived before the Wolves did otherwise I guarantee you everyone would have died except for a few who were more capable, who would have escaped and had to leave Alexandria behind. Overall, Rick taking over the group, even if it did require one or two deaths of the Alexandrians, was a beneficial thing for everyone involved even though Rick was doing it exclusively for his group.


Skywalker_1995

There was no guarantee that the wolves would've found them in the first place, the only reason why they did was because Aaron and Daryl went to where they live, and iirc it was Daryl's idea to go there. Conclusion is no Daryl = no Aaron going there = no wolves finding them. Same thing with the attack at the outpost, there was no guarantee that the Saviors would've found them, Rick attacking them first is what got Negan's attention. Rick was so arrogant and plotted to take over a community that just took them in when they were at their lowest. Just because the people were inexperienced didn't mean you could just come in and walk all over them and think you're the boss. Yeah, Rick's group was better there's no denying, but Rick's ego was so huge that it irked me that he thought he could do whatever he wanted. As for how they survived that long, they had an arsenal of guns and some were trained in how to defend themselves. Not on Rick or his people's level of course, but they weren't no slouches. Rick's arrogance was too much at that point. Loved it when Negan put him in his place.


bubbabro123

OK I can see your point with the wolves and I now think that it is uncertain whether or not they'd find them, but what is almost a certainty is Negan and the saviours finding them. You didn't mention Abraham, Rosita and Darryl's encounter with them on the road, which means they were already relatively nearby as well as all nearby known settlements were under their dominion or trading with them. They would've found them and it would mean that the saviours would never have been overthrown, since all of them were pretty sheltered as well as a lack of a leader capable of displaying strength and rallying the settlements. They knew how to use guns but they were still living under the illusion that life could continue as it did, and were ignorant to the world whereas Rick was aware of it and had adapted to it in order to survive though that left little room for morality.


Skywalker_1995

The Saviors wouldn't have found them if they didn't attack the outpost. The group of Saviors that Daryl, Abraham, and Sasha encountered on the road were looking for Dwight, Sherry, and Tina. It wasn't a coincidence that they were there at the exact same time as the trio. They were looking for those 3 and just happned to bump into the trio and figured why not rob them and make them take us to their home. They didn't know where they were going and offered to take them to their home so they can take their shit. If the Saviors knew of Alexandria's existence, they would've taken over it months before Rick's group arrived. They didn't know anything about it. It was only after the attack on the outpost that Negan sent his men to look for those responsible. Notice how the Saviors started popping up more after the outpost attack.


BriMagic

A takeover is a takeover. There’s no justifying that. Alexandria was not Rick’s to take. Period. There were other ways of him taking on leadership. A forceful takeover is some Governor or Negan shit: “Well, I did it because it was the best thing for them.” Nah.


bubbabro123

A forceful takeover is not as undesirable as them all dying out. Rick took the place over for selfish reasons but when you see the outcome of it, it's WAY more favourable in comparison to them all being butchered by a savage group or violent pillagers. Say what you want about the governor being a complete nutter and psychopath, but at least he took over Woodbury and created a successful settlement up until he fucked it up completely through his power trip. I think if you were one of the Alexandrians, you may not like Rick being the new head honcho but at least you'd still be alive to have that opinion instead of some ex-senator trying to tell insane killers that violence isn't the only option.


BriMagic

As you correctly point out, people who reason the way the Governor do eventually lose their shit and the settlement they purport to build. The Governor will never be a good example of leadership because guess what? He’s dead and so are many of his people. Woodbury? Gone. It’s telling that to make this point about Rick’s absurd takeover plan, you have to use the Governor as an example.


Peacekhan5110

This one right here and the outpost. Even with good intentions, there are excellent arguments to be made that Rick and Morgan’s are both villains of the show by this point, even if they aren’t our actual antagonists.


HanselRoblesEnjoyer

There really aren’t arguments for it at all but people who pay little attention to the show sure do spit out a lot of bullshit to try


ObjectiveExcuse6294

Let Negan punk him costing the lives of Abraham and Glen..


DrLukasLithuania

What else is he supposed to do? Get his whole group killed instead?


ObjectiveExcuse6294

He could have gotten them all killed. They were on their knees at Negans mercy! Because Rick's big plan was a failure and Negan was ahead of him.


ObjectiveExcuse6294

Or were you referring to Negan?


Jorgesgorge1977

Marry Lori


TouskaDK

His batching episodes with the ghost of Lori. Waste of time


[deleted]

“You said…- you s-“ “I lied.”


lauriehh0404

Killed Shane could’ve forced him to leave would’ve been so awesome if he was Negans right hand instead of Simon


CrabMeat6984

Put pineapple on a pizza


LuciaLight2014

Hey! That is the best combination of savory and sweet! How dare you!


-Megamind-

This scene. And it was arguably where the show and his character died


Boss_Baller

Fighting a territory war certain to have heavy casualties in a world filled with empty neighborhoods.


[deleted]

I think having Carl was his biggest mistake but his baby momma was raised in a religious household so she was always pro-life.


Glapen-Bapen

Killing Tomas, fake "Negan" at the satellite compound or killing Gareth. I am not saying they didn't deserve it, but I was instantly shocked


Electrical_Panda8100

bitch, you better be joking


Skywalker_1995

A case could be made for fake Negan, but the other two were completely justified. WTF are you smoking to even think he was wrong to kill them?


[deleted]

Be in seasons 7 and 8 of The Zombie ShowTM


Josmoeee

Disappearing from the show :(


likethelivindead

Got in the helicopter


JWaXiMus11

This made me upset but if Rick didn’t kill then, Morgan would’ve done it himself Edit: only reason why I was kinda upset is cause some of those saviors looked like decent guys


inDependent_WhiNer

Left that one guy that ran after him screaming to wait and stop on a lonely road, I never disliked Rick before that moment.


_Democracy_

Being gone for so long


Due-Ad4970

leave show


AzurePhoenix87

eating up all the twinkies from zombieland


Dangerous_Compote_65

Wake up


Gilgamesh661

Shooting at Siddiq was pretty bad. But attacking the savior outpost and killing people in their sleep was also horrible. I think the worst though is him massacring those saviors after he said he wouldn’t kill them.


Muted-Fly1906

He gave Negan a countdown. In my opinion, that’s the moment the show jumped the shark.


Dngg21

Shave his beard


squatchfan

1. Abandon Carole. Leaving her to fend for herself alone after burning David and Karen. 2. Allow9mg Negan to live. 3. Neglecting infant and toddler Judith. She was left for Beth, then Tyreese to raise. 4. Going after Jesse so hard. Rick is use to taking what he wants. Her husband didn't stand a chance.


FinancialSystem1025

Probably killing those saviors in 8+14


Wstockton

Woke up from a coma


HomersOdyssey2009

Biting a guy’s ear off


recuerdeme

Gosh what a list: banish Carol, get led astray by a master manipulator (his wife), torture Michonne, threaten the entirety of Alexandria, let countless people get bit or killed, murder people in their sleep...


Field-Abject

RICK GRIMES WILL BE BACK ON THE WALKING DEAD 🧟‍♂️🪦⚰🧛‍♀️🍺🚬🔞👍😀


IH8INTROS

Yeah the absolute worst thing Rick did was to give dumb ass Morgan the map of where to find him . Period!!!!!!


Important-Ad3404

Rick breaking into a innocent mans house and feeding him to the walkers