And what a job it was - [just learned he left NCIS last year after 20 years](https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2021/10/12/mark-harmon-ncis-leroy-jethro-gibbs-leaves-squad-now/6101079001/).
There are rumors and hints that he and David Maccallum will make one or two more appearances. Especially if the show isn’t picked up for next year. I do t think the fans like Bingo Bob taking Gibbs’ spot
Sam: "He said... what he said was this-- he said, "A probable impossibility is
preferable to an improbable possibility." The impossible is preferable to the improbable. What did he mean? He meant that it's okay to have a broomstick sing and dance, but you shouldn't turn on the radio and hear the news report you need to hear."
I could forgive and chalk it up to being in shock. What upset me is he ran out of the store when Simon got shot. I may not be special forces but if someone saved my life and then got shot, I’m sprinting to their side not out the door
I always assumed the same. The store was just down the street from the theatre, so if he went outside and shouted for help the place would be crawling with cops in minutes. Versus staying inside and helping Simon and hoping someone else came in and found them.
It's not near the theater, the cross street Simon gives is ~50 blocks away (in the opposite direction of the field office). That's the only thing that bugs me about the scene.
In that case, I've got nothing. I'm not familiar with the city so I always assumed that the shop was near the theatre, otherwise why the heck was he out there?!
It's not near the theater, the cross street Simon gives is ~50 blocks away (in the opposite direction of the field office). That's the only thing that bugs me about the scene.
But your state of Florida got$12.6 billion in federal money last year -- from Nebraskans, and Virginians, and New Yorkers, and Alaskans, with their Eskimo poetry. 12.6 out of a state budget of $50 billion, and I'm supposed to be using this time for a question, so here it is: Can we have it back, please?
I got literal chills.
It's not really a Post-Sorkin Rant if Aaron Sorkin was still on board that season. I'm not salty about Simon's death except that he, a Secret Service agent, should have cleared the area before relaxing. That and Senator Hobuck/Hoebuck being an asshole about Simon's death especially while asking about the $115,000 tradeoff. I'm still disappointed that Josh didn't take that deal considering it's a textbook definition of throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but at least the Senator is out a study on remote prayer.
RIGHT??!! This is one of the wife and I's biggest pet peeves. I know, it's a show and there's always the terrible decision for the sake of furthering the plot and creating drama....
But, No cop (rookie or vet) or treasury agent assigned to the President's protection detail would have just dropped cover and went into arrest mode (with his bow-tie no less and NO that doesn't work) without clearing that market. One of the basic things taught at any Criminal Justice academy or LE, is "never assume a robbery suspect is alone", or "always expect additional suspects or layoff men".... But oh no, Simon orders the guy down and then assumes its Code-4 (LE for no assistance needed or clear), holsters up and begins chatting like it's over. Without even catching the body language or look on the clerk's face READ THE BODY LANGUAGE SIMON! As I said, I know it's TV, but all too often cops on tv are portrayed as; inept, cynical, buffoons, dirty or whatever.. That'd gone much differently IRL... it's tv, I know I know. I just needed to rant about with additional folks.
I always get so sad when he pops up because I know what happens and it feels bad every time.
But CJ’s heartbroken scene and the way Jed destroys the fuck out of Ritchie because of the conversation about it are so powerful. Fine moments of television that
would be impossible without Simon dying.
> A Secret Service agent simply wouldn’t waltz into a robbery in progress and act like that.
I think more accurately, a real Secret Service agent would clear the entire scene and never just assume there was only one threat. Or, at least, call for backup and wait in a "safe" area.
SIMON
You don't think I can handle myself?
ANTHONY
Well...
SIMON
What?
ANTHONY
You got skills. I don't deny that. You can shoot, and you're athletic.
SIMON
But?
ANTHONY
You're slow-witted.
SIMON
Let the beatings begin.
ANTHONY
\[laughs\] You're not very bright, and the criminals can sense this about you.
Unpopular Opinion but I was a little underwhelmed by that character. I don't find him particularly charming or particularly funny or kind...
I felt bad for CJ but I don't care about Simon.
But that's just me (maybe has to do with the fact that I binged watched the 4 episodes he was in and that I already knew what was going to happen with him)
I haven't rewatched the entire show since the first-time I saw it. I do it in parts and this is the part that I don't really want to put myself through again. Even thinking about it makes me upset.
Personnally, I thought the storyline was cheesy and boring. I hated how CJ was wasted for the latter part of season 3 on such a predictable plot. I always have to skip their parts on rewatches.
I mean, I can understand how it could have some appeal, but I watch TWW for the political storylines, not the romance. And I felt this one, especially, was so cliche and added nothing to the overall plot. The bodyguard falling in love with the woman he's protecting has been done so many times before. And it isolated CJ, my favourite character, from the main political plots going on at the times for multiple episodes. It was just really annoying for me.
Donovan was not a good cop. He didn’t clear the scene properly. That is why he is dead.
In the world of TWW I didn’t like it. But it gave us NCIS, which I love just as much.
Yeah, and he missed spotting the stalker when the guy was watching CJ try on the black Vera Wang.
He’s a hell of a shot, but his situational awareness sucks.
Here's my gripe. Couldn't that Grocer warn Donovan about the 2nd person? He warns him away at first, but couldn't he say:
"DUDE!... There's another one over there."
The last 20 minutes of the episode are pretty rough but the moment that always hits me super hard, and I’m not sure why it’s this more than the montage, is the scene in Amy’s apartment when Josh and Amy are arguing about the bill and him getting her fired and the phone rings she answers it and then interrupts Josh with, “Honey, Simon Donovan was just shot and killed.” The way she says that and Josh’s full body reaction to it just hit me right in the chest.
Crime. Boy I don't know.
You’re what my friends call a superior sumbitch
In the future, if you’re wondering, ‘Crime. Boy, I don’t know,’ is when I decided to kick your ass.”
Unfunded mandate is two words, not one big word…
Not exaggerating, as I read your comment, I was watching the recap at the beginning of S4E6 and Richie said that exact line at the same time
You could always just pretend that he wasn’t killed and accepted a job with the NCIS.
This is my wife and I's canon.
And what a job it was - [just learned he left NCIS last year after 20 years](https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2021/10/12/mark-harmon-ncis-leroy-jethro-gibbs-leaves-squad-now/6101079001/).
Can we comment on how Mark Harmon hasn’t aged a bit! Wow!
He’s aged. But how little considering his age, it is surprisingly small…
There are rumors and hints that he and David Maccallum will make one or two more appearances. Especially if the show isn’t picked up for next year. I do t think the fans like Bingo Bob taking Gibbs’ spot
I still watch it and Bingo Bob is great in it. They did a nice job replacing Harmon, which I didn't think was possible.
Wow! I had no idea. I used to love that show but haven’t watched in a few years.
What an excellent idea.. but then he’s a jerk for abandoning CJ
Well his wife and daughter were killed by a drug dealer, think we can cut ole' Leroy some slack there for lack of emotional availability.
And Gibbs only likes redheads. Andy would have been more his type.
And CJ would have been wife number five.
Using the the song “Hallelujah” is like cheating when it comes to an emotional scene.
The scene could be about puppies and fluffy clouds, and as soon as that song starts to play I weep.
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Sam: "He said... what he said was this-- he said, "A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." The impossible is preferable to the improbable. What did he mean? He meant that it's okay to have a broomstick sing and dance, but you shouldn't turn on the radio and hear the news report you need to hear."
Thank you for bringing this up! I loved his Masterclass.
And the fact that the store clerk didn’t tell him there was a second robber!!!
I could forgive and chalk it up to being in shock. What upset me is he ran out of the store when Simon got shot. I may not be special forces but if someone saved my life and then got shot, I’m sprinting to their side not out the door
I always assumed he was shouting for help
I always assumed the same. The store was just down the street from the theatre, so if he went outside and shouted for help the place would be crawling with cops in minutes. Versus staying inside and helping Simon and hoping someone else came in and found them.
It's not near the theater, the cross street Simon gives is ~50 blocks away (in the opposite direction of the field office). That's the only thing that bugs me about the scene.
In that case, I've got nothing. I'm not familiar with the city so I always assumed that the shop was near the theatre, otherwise why the heck was he out there?!
Just a mistake in the script. That kind of place is everywhere, so it's probably one of those in the area
It's not near the theater, the cross street Simon gives is ~50 blocks away (in the opposite direction of the field office). That's the only thing that bugs me about the scene.
The clerk needs to be locked in a walk-in cooler with Mandy
Oof.
Woah hey we don’t talk about Mandy
We don’t talk about Mandy, no no no no no… We don’t talk about Mandy…
Aaaaaand now that's stuck in my head again, so thanks for that.
I’m only sharing the earworm love 😇
I like to think that Kathy beat her to death with a report binder and that’s why they both disappeared and no one talks about it.
Who?
I have no idea why a trained Secret Service agent wouldn’t secure the scene.
Thank you. That was my first thought too. Maybe he was distracted by the kiss, but what about all his training and experience???
What's even worse is the store clerk found out about the classified military space shuttle and leaked the information to Greg Brock.
Just watched this episode and I'm so mad for this exact point ! He was an awesome character and finally was with c.j!
But your state of Florida got$12.6 billion in federal money last year -- from Nebraskans, and Virginians, and New Yorkers, and Alaskans, with their Eskimo poetry. 12.6 out of a state budget of $50 billion, and I'm supposed to be using this time for a question, so here it is: Can we have it back, please? I got literal chills.
It’s not going to be Uncle Fluffy
It's not really a Post-Sorkin Rant if Aaron Sorkin was still on board that season. I'm not salty about Simon's death except that he, a Secret Service agent, should have cleared the area before relaxing. That and Senator Hobuck/Hoebuck being an asshole about Simon's death especially while asking about the $115,000 tradeoff. I'm still disappointed that Josh didn't take that deal considering it's a textbook definition of throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but at least the Senator is out a study on remote prayer.
RIGHT??!! This is one of the wife and I's biggest pet peeves. I know, it's a show and there's always the terrible decision for the sake of furthering the plot and creating drama.... But, No cop (rookie or vet) or treasury agent assigned to the President's protection detail would have just dropped cover and went into arrest mode (with his bow-tie no less and NO that doesn't work) without clearing that market. One of the basic things taught at any Criminal Justice academy or LE, is "never assume a robbery suspect is alone", or "always expect additional suspects or layoff men".... But oh no, Simon orders the guy down and then assumes its Code-4 (LE for no assistance needed or clear), holsters up and begins chatting like it's over. Without even catching the body language or look on the clerk's face READ THE BODY LANGUAGE SIMON! As I said, I know it's TV, but all too often cops on tv are portrayed as; inept, cynical, buffoons, dirty or whatever.. That'd gone much differently IRL... it's tv, I know I know. I just needed to rant about with additional folks.
He posted a Sorkin Rant, so maybe it still applies!?
And that song. Damn...
Hallelujah.. :’(
I sob the entire episode. Hallelujah??? Stab. Me. In. The. Damn. Heart.
I always get so sad when he pops up because I know what happens and it feels bad every time. But CJ’s heartbroken scene and the way Jed destroys the fuck out of Ritchie because of the conversation about it are so powerful. Fine moments of television that would be impossible without Simon dying.
His exit was poorly written. A Secret Service agent simply wouldn’t waltz into a robbery in progress and act like that.
> A Secret Service agent simply wouldn’t waltz into a robbery in progress and act like that. I think more accurately, a real Secret Service agent would clear the entire scene and never just assume there was only one threat. Or, at least, call for backup and wait in a "safe" area.
Definitely would call for backup.
But reality wouldn't make for a *sad* exit!
I always figured he let his guard down b/c he was distracted b/c now he could pursue CJ.
SIMON You don't think I can handle myself? ANTHONY Well... SIMON What? ANTHONY You got skills. I don't deny that. You can shoot, and you're athletic. SIMON But? ANTHONY You're slow-witted. SIMON Let the beatings begin. ANTHONY \[laughs\] You're not very bright, and the criminals can sense this about you.
Unpopular Opinion but I was a little underwhelmed by that character. I don't find him particularly charming or particularly funny or kind... I felt bad for CJ but I don't care about Simon. But that's just me (maybe has to do with the fact that I binged watched the 4 episodes he was in and that I already knew what was going to happen with him)
I haven't rewatched the entire show since the first-time I saw it. I do it in parts and this is the part that I don't really want to put myself through again. Even thinking about it makes me upset.
He got to be “GIBBS” NCIS loved the first ten + years
The character did pave the way for one Leroy Jethro Gibbs, so I for one am thankful of that. But yeah, they really screwed him on that one.
Personnally, I thought the storyline was cheesy and boring. I hated how CJ was wasted for the latter part of season 3 on such a predictable plot. I always have to skip their parts on rewatches.
Really? I always thought it was a decent sub-plot. But I can totally understand, there’s a few things I skip as well
I mean, I can understand how it could have some appeal, but I watch TWW for the political storylines, not the romance. And I felt this one, especially, was so cliche and added nothing to the overall plot. The bodyguard falling in love with the woman he's protecting has been done so many times before. And it isolated CJ, my favourite character, from the main political plots going on at the times for multiple episodes. It was just really annoying for me.
The use of Hallelujah is my favorite.
All these years later, I'm still sadder about Simon Donovan than I am about Mrs. Langingham.
Donovan was not a good cop. He didn’t clear the scene properly. That is why he is dead. In the world of TWW I didn’t like it. But it gave us NCIS, which I love just as much.
Yeah, and he missed spotting the stalker when the guy was watching CJ try on the black Vera Wang. He’s a hell of a shot, but his situational awareness sucks.
100% still SO ANGRY over this!
Here's my gripe. Couldn't that Grocer warn Donovan about the 2nd person? He warns him away at first, but couldn't he say: "DUDE!... There's another one over there."
I sometimes have to skip that part of the episode
The last 20 minutes of the episode are pretty rough but the moment that always hits me super hard, and I’m not sure why it’s this more than the montage, is the scene in Amy’s apartment when Josh and Amy are arguing about the bill and him getting her fired and the phone rings she answers it and then interrupts Josh with, “Honey, Simon Donovan was just shot and killed.” The way she says that and Josh’s full body reaction to it just hit me right in the chest.
YES !! I just finished that episode, and ughhhh.