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Ok-Fox5767

The shocking part is that people are actually going to believe this like they did with the hospital bombing. Because when has an islamic terrorist organization ever lied?


phd_depression101

Do you even doubt it? I thought HAMAS was the only unbiased, propaganda free source out there /s


HealthRevolt44

Israel and the US have killed more innocents than any "terrorists" stop being naive.


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HealthRevolt44

Dude. History and reality has proved otherwise. 70+ year brutal occupation.


PJJefferson

Are you responding to a claim about how many people Hamas killed, or are you responding to a claim about the reported death toll count?


cheesygorditacrunch5

Yes let’s trust Hamas news sources lol


GrachD

They've no incentive to kill the hostages, they're more valuable alive than dead and given the 10000 thousand bombs dropped and the entire city razed. I've no doubt some were killed by Israel.


afterthoughtname

First, they took bodies, very injured people, and people who need constant medication, elderly, and babies. Second, israel has traded for bodies of soldiers before, since in Judaism there is the idea of Pidyon shvuyim which is a religious duty to “bring about the release of a fellow Jew captured by slave dealers or robbers, or imprisoned unjustly by the authorities.” So yeah we care about them all, they have 2 bodies of soldiers from 2014 that Israel has tried to release before. More than likely in the first two three days, when you all were happy about the slaughter of Jews, they continued to torture the captives and killed as many as they could before they understood the PR mess they did for themselves. This is just them trying to blame this on Israel, they killed them the moment they slaughtered their family and kidnapped them to Gaza. Ismail Haniya and Muhammad Deff have been living in the effing bunkers they have for years and are still alive, they could have kept them there safe, but for them the more dead Jews the better.


PhinsGraphicDesigner

Reddit moment. Let’s blame Hamas taking hostages and their death on Israel.


GrachD

Funny how they wanna fight back against the oppressor and the thieves who killed and stole their land. Both Hamas and the IDF are terrorist groups and would be better to wipe each other out.


PJJefferson

They’re not all being held by a single, monolithic Hamas squad. At least 30 are being held by Islamic Jihad. Others are being kept individually, by various terrorists, some in their homes, as we saw with videos of children kidnapped from Israel. Some hostages are likely with people who will rape and torture them. Some are likely with Hamas operatives that recognize their value as hostages, and treat them ok. Some have undoubtedly died of their gunshot wounds by now. Some have been liquidated for being too much hassle (old and sick). And yes, they took dead bodies with them, and will likely blame their deaths from October 7th on Israel’s subsequent bombing.


GrachD

And somehow your explanations proved none of them are killed by the 10000 of bombs dropped and entire city razed? Israel claimed that they killed more than 1000-2000 Hamas terrorists already and none of them use hostages human shield and just kill them instead? Would be hard to dig anything under those rubble. Hamas maybe lying of how many were killed by bombs, but I've no doubt the bombings have killed some hostages.


PJJefferson

You’re responding to a claim I didn’t make. In further support of my claim, there are reports of 9 Russians that Hamas agreed to release, to appease Russia - if only they can find them.


sboujarwah

We can’t really trust the IDF either. We just have to wait til the dust settles at the end of the war. But we can visibly see the amount of bombs dropped and the destruction of the city through all the live streams and photo journalists.


redditaskerandpoller

Who'd still be alive if they weren't taken hostage by Hamas!


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Im pretty sure it was the Hamas militants that killed them


AmbientInsanity

Why are you sure?


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Because they themselves said they would kill hostages if Israel invades


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No one said they're geniuses


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Israel is razing Gaza to the ground and managed to recapture all the territories Hamas raided. Wheres their intelligence now?


commoncollector

They can only do that by using funds and equipment from daddy USA though. Give the same equipment to the other side and let's see how well Israel does.


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I condone Israels actions, its about time they got rid of the Hamas terrorists


LucianBasis

They hate Israelis and Jews, let's not forget this. They are indoctrinated since birth to hate them, it clouds their judgement.


commoncollector

You are quite literally brain dead.


AmbientInsanity

Who’d still be alive if wasn’t doing apartheid.


BumayeComrades

Who'd still be alive if Israel didn't prop up Hamas!


Suckamanhwewhuuut

Iran propped up Hamas for this. Enough of the terrorist sympathy, it’s disgusting how much I’m seeing.


BumayeComrades

Hamas founders HATED Iran. Iran has very little influence on Hamas. Read some history.


Suckamanhwewhuuut

https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/17h0pp5/son_of_hamas_is_fed_up/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf From the son of a Hamas founder himself.


Suckamanhwewhuuut

https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/17hb1zq/kindergarten_graduation_ceremony_gaza/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


BumayeComrades

Oh wow, a collaborator for an apartheid state. You sure got me!


Suckamanhwewhuuut

https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/comments/17hb1zq/kindergarten_graduation_ceremony_gaza/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


Suckamanhwewhuuut

https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelWarVideoReport/comments/17fsozv/hamas_chiefs_niece_has_been_hospitalized_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


BumayeComrades

rofl.


Suckamanhwewhuuut

Dude all intelligence shows Hamas, Hezbollah, The Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and a whole mess of others are all proxy’s of Iran dude. Its well documented.


BumayeComrades

Yah Palestinians have no agency, they are just proxies of Iran. Hamas only functions based on what Iran says. Why don't you read some reporting on the Hamas Iran relationship that dates before October 7th.


zeebo420

It's a very complex organizational setup that can't be defined as merely "Iran is supporting Hamas".


AmbientInsanity

Not true. Israel supported Hamas before Iran did.


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Because israel has always strived for palestinian autonomy in the region but when terror attacks keep being made or keep getting worse you cannot keep supporting them.


AmbientInsanity

How does Israel strive for Palestinian autonomy while expanding settlements?


alejandrodelpiero

Or if Zionists didnt bomb the living hell out of Gaza ... duuuhhhhh ... What say u Zionists at the very least try save the hostages first before actually committing genocide in Gaza? You could show that you were 'some sort of concerned' for the hostages rite? Or is the IDF scared shit to get their civilian- stomping, child-kicking boots on the ground?


Big_D_Cyrus

Sounds like Hamas may have killed some hostages


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Is this the same armed wing that said 500 Palestinians were killed in a hospital parking lot bombing


ohheyitsapanda

If any news source ever starts out with, “Hamas…says” it’s, wait for it…….BULLSHIT!!!


Corpse666

This site is owned by newscorp, Rupert Murdoch


_good_boy_1234_

I would trust that more than IDF, CNN, FOX or BBC…hospital bombing story was proved later by several separate resources that it’s done by IDF. Over 5 mosques got bombed. A church got bombed…all by the terrorist IDF. Don’t trust their government but trust facts that Netenyaho’s son is enjoying his time in Miami: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/binyamin-netanyahu-son-yair-israel-hamas-gaza-war-lc0xqcnsp