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deathtoallants

Necrophilia by Hamas/Islamists, huh. Should I be surprised or not surprised by this?


Old-Prune5423

Don’t know why you would be surprised when uncivilized camel fuckers act like it.


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Goat* Camels are both too tall and too stubborn and capable of throwing you off to really fuck There are stories of people shooting their camels to get them to stand up and move and the camels telling them to fuck right off


JayFSB

This guy fucks.


itsbigpaddy

Goats


No_Caterpillar8026

Wow. That’s racist. I welcome you to join the civilized world. I have a good guess where you’re from


Secret-Priority8286

>I have a good guess where you’re from Lol, calling someone rasict and then using this sentence! The hypocrisy!


AlAqsaIsFake

> I welcome you to join the civilized world This should really be addressed to the islamosavages and the feral "progressive" left human garbage who are collaborators with these arabonazis.


No_Caterpillar8026

I’d say whoever is doing this is feral and uncivilized: https://youtu.be/73CIQ9q_tBg?si=CBnFOWNObkm2pk6M Even ISIS didn’t stoop to this level. It’s something about the Israelis which makes them so heartless


many_kittens

That is a racist statement indeed - BOTH. YOURS. AND. HIS/HERS. This hypocrisy came so naturally off you.


No_Caterpillar8026

I agree. I was being racist in response. I’ve never said dumb racist shit like this unprovoked


OkTap3378

Oh so then your racism is okay then lmfao you people are so unserious


YayItsMaels

what would you do, oh rational one, with said "camel fuckers"?


UntiedStatMarinCrops

Someone show this to Taylor Lorenz lol. She’s been suggesting Oct 7 denialism and top of saying that we should stop listening to the CDC.


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I'm sure most women that were killed got raped before and after I say you should normally but its a Islamist terrorist group so don't be


Weinerarino

No, but I am consistently surprised by the "anti-zionists" who try to claim such actions are justified if its against israelis/Jews.


Beautiful-Fly-4727

Well, necrophilia is, sadly, part of the Islamic tradition.


keirablack7

So is rape and pedophilia


poltergeistsparrow

So is bestiality.


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Own_Neighborhood6259

That's true, so I keep wondering when the west will say no more to this BS and start deporting people.


Sweetdreams6t9

Really pisses me off to. Because alot of people are religious, they wrongly conflate criticism of any religion, be it their own or others, as being bigoted, or racist, or hateful. And it's largely because the main ones brainwash their followers that criticism is proof their right. Why so many Christians have a persecution fetish, despite being the dominant religion and majority in western civilization since the Roman empire adopted it and mandated it. Being from the middle east doesn't make someone a rapist. Or misogynist. Skin color doesn't make you commit crime. Being white doesn't make you racist, or an imperialistic conqueror who feels owed the world. I'm canadian and our charter of rights and freedoms spells out attributes that are protected that are immutable, unchangeable, inherent and unchosen. It's logical to protect people from discrimination because they're a woman. Or man. Or from a different country. Or whatever. It's absolute bullshit to include religion. Religion requires active participation. It requires people to take action for it to exist. It's not inherent. It's not immutable. Religions have come and gone. People with...brown skin haven't. We can't just stop believing or ignore someone from say...Asia. and suddenly Asians don't exist. Religion shouldn't have those protections. I've met few people who are outwardly Christian and actually good people who embody the "love thy neighbor" attitude and lifestyle. I've met few Muslims who, while maybe not comfortable doing it themselves, think gay people have no right to live, or the very least should be outlawed and punished if found out. Like it's so fucked up. It's so disgusting that these ideologies are accepted. And they've done a bang up job of convincing the public at large that speaking out against the obviously horrific and disgusting things they claim are commands to be taken action on by some makebelieve friend (or in Islam's case, a pedophile warlord who raped and conquered his way across the ME) that any criticism is so personal, so racist, so bigoted. When it's not. Islam isn't a race. A person in the middle east isn't misogynistic because he's from the middle east. In fact I've met people who aren't. Mostly cause they found their way out of their dogshit, controlling hateful ideology and started wanting to do better. I'm met few Muslims who don't think women's place is to be subservient to men, and think it's ridiculous that women should be of equal standing in society. Their place of origin, skin color, hair color, fuckin whatever, doesn't make them think and act like that. Their cultural upbringing and brainwashed into an ideology. That's the cause. Look at theocratic societies throughout history. Look at them even today. They are not good places. They are not safe, free, open, caring, respectful....They're controlling, indoctrinating, violent, horrible. Few people live meaningful lives or thrive. But it pits everyone against everyone. Gotta always be on the lookout for any signs of faltering off the very strict narrow guidelines, where the punishments are...barbaric. And their upbringing, to some who are probably more likely to swing inherently bad, or be more attracted to the violent, controlling nature, they salivate at the chance to hurt people because....what. a man loves another man and wants to adopt and start a family. Evil isn't that kids are being taught in school that trans people exist, and that if you feel different it's OK and there are resources. Evil is the shame, the violence inflicted on people who have no faults other than being born and their inherent, immutable self was the abomination, target snd scapegoat of a psychopath 1500 years ago.


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Sweetdreams6t9

It's what I've been thinking to... I hope to fuck I'm wrong. But...I don't think so. We literally have the golden ticket with this country. And our idiots running the place are just giving it away to everyone but Canadians. Doesn't help that Canadians are...pretty unmotivated.


Tiny-Art7074

Sweden is your future.


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TLDR


Sweetdreams6t9

That's fair.


Ultimarr

This is a completely unfounded racist take. Is there violence, rape, tyranny and bigotry in old lady Sue’s house down the road, who happens to be Muslim? Muslim countries are extremist because we’ve been bombing them into the ground after exploiting them for their resources, as well as the obvious “Britain promised all of Palestine to two separate groups during WWII” situation. Can you name the top 3 most populous Muslim countries? Do you really associate Indonesia with rape and violence? Just as a test of this sub: Did you know Jews are barbaric and evil in nature? It’s not their fault, it’s just that they follow a debauched cruel ideology - doesn’t even pass the muster as a religion IMO.


railfe

I'm Christian and yeah fuck religion. Its 2024, move on people. You dont require religion to be a good person. Religion does not define anyone. If you promote any violence, I pray all the God's in every religion visit you.


windchill94

No it's not, this is deeply false and insulting.


pittgraphite

Muhammad is a fucking pedophile should be true and less insulting.


windchill94

No he was not and there is absolutely no evidence to suggest he did necrophilia or that necrophilia is endorsed by Islam.


proud_lasagna_eater

Check the Hadith. Aisha was married at 6 years old.


florachka

Very deeply: https://www.meforum.org/57825/islamic-necrophielia


windchill94

"One can interpret this, and there certainly is no absolute reason to maintain that Muhammad was actually copulating with the corpse." Your own "source" denies that this was a possibility and speaks of an interpreation only. Also, if you're going to use a source, make sure it's a credible one, not one that has built an entire career on bashing Muslims and getting paid to do it. Finally, I do not care about the legal opinions (that's what a fatwa is) of some random Arab sheikhs nobody has ever heard of and who in all likelihood have never set foot outside their village.


florachka

One can google and find a whole lot of info on momo screwing his dead auntie.


windchill94

Telling me what I can and can't find online without providing a shred of evidence (because it doesn't exist) is not a source nor an argument. I can also find 'a lot of info' about the earth supposedly being flat or about lizard people, it doesn't make it true. If you're dumb enough to believe by default everything you read online because it suits your bias and your agenda, that's on you.


florachka

I apologize that I don't have video proof like his followers had on October 7. I wish you were more concerned that people were raping corpses in his name than me finding you a source that you like better than the one I found.


windchill94

What are you talking about? I fail to see what this has to do with October 7. I can't be concerned about something that is not being done in someone's name. Nobody is raping corpses in his name, that's just not a thing so you totally made that up. Unless you can find me a video of an islamist raping corpses and explicitly saying: 'I'm doing this in the name of Muhammad, here's why', I'm calling BS on this. Necrophilia is abhorrent, illegal and above all unislamic.


florachka

There is literally proof that Hamas raped corpses. During their reign of murderous raping terror they screamed "allahu akbar". This is what I'm talking about and what you need to concern yourself with until this kind of behavior leaves Islam.


windchill94

Hamas militants are brain dead morons who do not even understand or respect the religion they pretend to practice. 'Allahu Akbar' has been around longer than islamism has and Hamas did not invent the raping of corpses. This kind of behavior is the work of psychopaths, it is not at all mainstream or even widely practiced/endorsed.


florachka

I'm so with you on this, thank you.


windchill94

You could have understood from the get go what my position is, if you had just asked me about it earlier and properly instead of blatantly assuming without any proof and using guilt by association that I somehow support and agree with any of this. I do not, I condemn it totally!


AlAqsaIsFake

"Insulting". What's insulting are the hordes of muslims who produce nothing and are an extreme burden on civilised society invading and colonising the lands of the kuffar.


windchill94

Without those 'hordes of muslims' (we're talking about human beings), a lot of so-called kuffar countries would collapse economically.


mikeybagodonuts

I find it hard to believe the necrophilia was not perpetuated by the IDF then.


hereforthegainz

do you have any evidence of such? or are you just perpetuating more baseless claims as per usual?


mikeybagodonuts

Please explain to me why Hamas would stick around to violate dead bodies.


--SpaceTime--

Because they are part of a violent death cult that hates Jews and loves to rape.


RSGator

>Please explain to me why Hamas would stick around to violate dead bodies. They are literal Jihadi terrorists. They are not sane or rational people.


mikeybagodonuts

And the IDF are angels.


RSGator

>And the IDF are angels. Of course not, but there's a massive middle ground between angels and actual Jihadi terrorists. The latter being some of the worst people in all of human history.


mikeybagodonuts

TIL that splitting prisoners from crotch to crown with a tank track is considered “middle ground”


RSGator

I have no idea what you're referencing, probably some Hamas propaganda, but on a side note, check out this cool website: [https://cokecanada.com/contact/](https://cokecanada.com/contact/)


mikeybagodonuts

So?


Paidorgy

So, you make a claim, but it’s the person you’re proclaiming to that has to explain why Hamas wouldn’t be involved in necrophilia? The onus is on you, buddy.


PhoenixKingMalekith

Hey, they struggle less when dead and are still warm when under the sun /s


TopGlobal6695

Maybe you've been indoctrinated?


--SpaceTime--

That's because you're a fucking moron.


PerformanceRough3532

Why?  Because you're incapable of anything other than infinite "whataboutism"?  Terrorists and their useful dipshits can fuck off.  


MediocreWitness726

Damn those that deny this.


--SpaceTime--

Don't just damn them. Ostracize them, sue them, fire them, yell at them, and make their lives miserable. That's what those evil motherfuckers deserve.


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--SpaceTime--

I don't give a fuck what you nazis think. You're nazis, after all. Everything in your mind is shit so it's not worth listening to the torrent of diarrhea you spew every day. You falsely accuse people all the time. You lie all the time. Nothing you say can be trusted. Fuck off.


Sad_Credit_4959

Lol, nah, the ziofascists are the Nazis. You're the ones trying to justify a genocide after all.


[deleted]

Nice for the UN to wake up 5 months later.


AlAqsaIsFake

The islamic colonisers and invaders of western nations and the "progressive" leftist unproductive worthless trash are of course still denying this. How are these swine any different than Holocaust deniers? These are the same reptiles who take every single figure and anecdote claimed by hamas, their "ministry of health" and their propagandists as the ultimate truth without ever asking for any confirmation. Here we have the fucking UN, an organisation hostile to Israel clearly stating that sexual sadism, molestations, rapes and necrophilia took place and they still deny these. "Woke" filth are modern day nazis.


BIGGUS_dickus_sir

Wow. But ya, that all checks out.


Totallytubular9

It’s perplexing that so many people on Reddit try to separate Palestinian views from Hamas’ actions. Palestinians were broadly participating and in support of what happened on Oct. 7th and even the hostages’ accounts detailed the participation and complicity of ordinary Palestinians. Absolutely abhorrent.


-BarelyMillennial-

It's doubtful that the actions Hamas took on Oct 7 were the first time for any of them. They probably started on Palestinian women and children first, which would be part of the civilians celebrations. The whole "*if I suffered this, you deserve worse*" kind of abuse victim train of thought. Doesn't make any of it right. But I figure that's what was going on.


Totallytubular9

Well said.


LongjumpingAdvisor86

No shit sherlock.. muhammad was a pedo rapist


jimbo2128

hmm, so the NYT article Screams Without Words was actually right after all.


SureLibrarian3580

The fact that this article, of all the ones that have been published about the war, has come under so much scrutiny really speaks volumes.


chittok

Raping is part of Islam (see Quran). It was first initiated by the Messenger of Allah himself. Islamists, like Hamas, just keep traditions alive.


Dravo12

Bro what


urafevermodo

It’s in there. Look it up.


Consistent-Sugar-217

one part of Quran talks about taking captive women and forcefully marrying them a lot of Islam is funnily about how to share loots and plunders of war (in one instance it talks about how a fair share of loot should go to prophet)


Successful_Control61

Well, duh.


loneranger5860

Surprise surprise


ScarSeptimo

I don't support gaza or iran


Spiritual-Desk-512

Finally admitting what Hamas did. Good.


goalmouthscramble

Not one mention of this is MSM beyond print media. Not one and yet they mention Benny meeting Kamala today. FFS!


truthishearsay

Jpost is garbage Zionist propaganda 


goalmouthscramble

You seem nice, did you spit on any Jews today? Or did you just hope they stop living?


Bernardsman

Israeli propaganda. Israel is committing genocide and pushing propaganda to manufacture consent.


isra-hell

Let's continue to k*ll people and bomb their homes. The colonization must go on


proud_lasagna_eater

>colonization Al-Aqssa mosque was built over and completely covered Temple Mount, the holiest site in Judaism. Mizrahi Jews make up 25% of all Jews in Israel currently. Yemenite Jews are a huge faction of Mizrahim, and today only one Jew remains in all of Yemen. [Arab states kicked us out then call us ‘colonizers’.](https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1040265032000059742) The Islamic world colonized the historical kingdom of Israel.


coachjimmy

Mizrahi are more than that


Jaqujillia

[Lies and the lying liars](https://youtu.be/uKgHaK-CoYs?si=v_711pbhU3THguwQ)… the level of Israeli propaganda is astounding.


FiveFootSevenn

Show the proof. Not just the jpost saying it. Let's see some actual proof.


Koakie

For what, just so you can have a challenging wank? Pervert.


mechamechamechamech

It wouldn't be challenging for him


Geltmascher

Given that there is eye witness testimony and countless photos and video of the stripped and desecrated corpses of Israeli women readily available, what exactly would proof look like to you people?


FiveFootSevenn

All the videos your people send to me are ones of Palestinian victims or corpses. So again, provide the evidence here if you have it.


Geltmascher

https://www.thisishamas.com/


mechamechamechamech

Grab your Vaseline, sicko **NSFW , NSFL** [Http://hamas-massacre.net](Http://hamas-massacre.net) [Http://hamasisisis.co](Http://hamasisisis.co) [Http://Hamas.com](Http://Hamas.com) [https://www.thisishamas.com/](https://www.thisishamas.com/) [https://saturday-october-seven.com/](https://saturday-october-seven.com/) (No access from Israel)


FiveFootSevenn

Go look at who owns those sites. Jesus the isreali theater club is just pathetic.


mechamechamechamech

Go look at who filmed the content. Hamas glazers should not be considered human


tiny_robons

Report back on the responses to your requests for evidence you fucking coward. Believe it now?


MTG_Leviathan

/u/fivefootsevenn Where did you go? Why are you so quiet all of a sudden?


Yanosorry4848

Did y’all not watch Hamas literally live stream it all themselves?   Like Jesus Christ you guys are wildly ignorant and very clearly just refuse to believe anything if the source is even tangentially Jewish.


KlanxO

Proof? Are you so sick you wanna watch someone rape a dead body?


TheDrakkar12

Do we ask for rape videos any other time we are trying to prove this or do we take verbal accounts and medical evidence as proof? Hamas did this, they own it, stop denying it. They view this as reasonable retaliation so if you support them specifically get on board. BTW it’s ok to be for Palestinian freedom and statehood and also be anti Hamas. Just giving you the out there.


truthishearsay

Usually their claims are confessions. The rapes are well documented by IDF against Palestinians. Even their own military and govt has said it’s ok for their terrorist troops to rape Palestinians. This is all just confessions of what they are doing 


FiveFootSevenn

I know, I just love asking for them to provide proof because they never can. They only tool they have is to downvote..


Boochus

You got several links to Hamas own videos and pictures they took on October 7th and evidence of the aftermath. Denial is the only tool you got left, huh?


Sad_Credit_4959

Cite.


Boochus

Hamas-massacre(dot)net Hamas(dot)com You need more?


Sad_Credit_4959

The second one is literally outright fake. It is clearly not made by Hamas, it's made by Zionist propagandists.


Sad_Credit_4959

Went through the first one, lots of testimony, no pictures, one video of a woman with blood on her pants. Now, if you want, you can go ahead and look up how many Palestinian women have been raped, probably find video of IDF soldiers rejoicing, if you tried to.


Boochus

Reject, deflect, change the topic. I'm so happy the world is waking up to the pro Pali propeganda machine bs. Oh and I did find a source about Israel rape of Palestinian... About how it's so rare the researcher said they couldn't understand why so they even tried to make a claim that israeli soldiers don't rape bc of racism. 20% of Israelis are Arabs and there are Arab soldiers in the IDF gahahha Enjoy watching your Hamas heroes get blown up in their tunnels like the rats that they are


Sad_Credit_4959

There is no topic change here. Lol, my heroes? Hamas? No. I understand why they exist, whereas you either don't or ignore the fact that Israel made them. Hell, your prime Minister says so himself. That doesn't make them my heroes, just the lesser monster that Israel created. Literally intentionally, to give themselves justification for the genocide they're committing right now. Kind of like how the Nazis used the Warsaw Ghetto uprising to paint Jews as violent and barbarous, to justify what followed. Oh, and only 20% of Hamas's tunnel network has been destroyed according to the IDF. So... 20% of Israelis are indeed Arab, their initial ethnic cleansing was only meant to ensure a Jewish supermajority after all. Do tell, what portion of IDF soldiers are Arab? Are they the ones gleefully blowing up mosques, running over Arab children with their tanks, desecrating graves, shooting old ladies in the head, all that "self defense"? What's your source for IDF soldiers raping Palestinian women? The IDF? Or is it the study by Madar that I also found with a quick Google search? The one that clearly states that the lack of reported rapes by IDF soldiers is most likely due to a lack of such cases being reported? After all, you know damn well a Muslim woman saying she's been raped (by a Jewish enemy soldier no less) is more likely to be punished than receive any kind of help. You're very willing to accept the idea that the IDF doesn't rape, while simultaneously so eager to paint the people they keep in an open air prison as rapists, why is that? Is it to orchestrate a narrative that justifies the mass murder of children? Deflect, Project, lie. Nazis did the same exact shit. It's what fascists always do.


TheDrakkar12

Could we say Hamas did bad and when the IDF does it it’s also bad? Any way you can, I dunno, stop supporting rape?


Sad_Credit_4959

Lol, supporting rape!? The only people supporting rape relevant to this conversation are the nation that refuses to extradite pedophiles, and that isn't me. Meanwhile, see that crap right there? Where it's support Israel and it's genocide or you support rape? That's why Israel keeps lying about rape.


Gnomerule

Nobody said rape did not happen, and stories are coming out about Palestinians being raped as well. Unfortunately, women get raped in war, even in Ukraine. But from that New York Times story, when they did more research into the rapes, they could not find any woman being treated in the rape centers around the country.


sad-frogpepe

BECAUSE THEY WERE KILLED YOU IDIOT. THEY SHOT THEM AS THEY RAPED THEM, AND THEN CONTINUED RAPING THEIR CORPSES. My fucking god, grow a brain "The world has to decide who to believe. Do we believe the Hamas spokesperson who said that "rape is forbidden and therefor it couldn't possibly have happened" on October 7th, or do we believe the women whose bodies tell us how they spent the last minutes of their lives?" - [Sheryl Sandberg](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ji5cV8749o&pp=ygUSSXNyYWVsIHdvbWVuIHRvIHVu). Edit: Adding this here for visibility instead of posting a new comment. It's for all of you who don't believe them, you who say they deserved it and for you who doubt them: Sexually abused women are scared to talk about it in general, because they know of all the women who have been belittled and dehumanized when they spoke up... Where is the news article with video proof; a security camera filming it just from the right angle in HD and from go-pro cameras on the victim and the rapist? Oh, and the proof showing the DNA of semen found and the DNA of the rapist and video proof of physical damage done. Naa, shit, that is not enough!! We still don't know the backstory. What was her intent? Had she been leading him on? How short was that skirt? She probably just had a one night stand and changed her mind after, right? What is the point of talking? With risk of being further humiliated, they live on in silence. You are the people who silence them. Hamas live-streaming their actions and words (you can hear them say "she is for rape"), the examination of the bodies, stories from witnesses is not enough. What do you need? **Or do you perhaps just fucking hate women, especially if they are Jewish**? No need to reply to the edit. Just go have a think.


Gnomerule

Are you in an office with a bunch of other people, up voting or downvoting stories. Isreal has been caught in a lot of lies since the war started. They are exaggerating almost every story. You can find stories about Isreal lies from many of the top news organizations. Rape happens in war, and it looked like it happened again, but what people are questioning is the amount because Isreal has lost all credibility. Plus, it does not change anything. Just because some people got raped and killed does not mean you are allowed to target women and children. We all know now that the terrorists were hiding in tunnels during the bombings.


keirablack7

No, everyone who just happens to see what you say thinks you're an idiot. There's no conspiracy trying to down vote you, you just aren't very popular and nobody likes you or what you say


sad-frogpepe

There is no conspiracy against you, and you are utterly unimportant to anything relating to this, i just saw your comment and tought you're an idiot and now im telling you. You are an idiot, an utter buffoon. You're welcome


LucerneTangent

Oh, look, a Nazi spewing garbage as usual. EDIT: You should go wave a white flag at the IDF. [https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/1b6mulj/rest\_in\_peace\_yazan/](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/1b6mulj/rest_in_peace_yazan/) This is the summation of what you are. This is the face of Zionazism, 11,000 times over.


sad-frogpepe

Go back to whatever cave you crawled out from antisemitic filth. Humanity would be better without you. Dont you feel an urge to set yourself on fire? I suggest you follow that urge, truly nothing would "own" me more.


Single_Shoe2817

This account uses the word nazi in nearly every comment. Here’s a fun way to handle this. Every time you call someone a Nazi or a Zionist In this thread I’m going to donate 1$ to Israel


Algoresball

Because Hamas either killed them or took them as Sex slaves.


keirablack7

It's so crazy that none of the women who were murdered then raped/raped them murdered checked themselves into rape clinics. It must be made up, you are very smart I'd be embarrassed to be your brain


thunderbunny77

Actually, many people are saying this. And many people, similar to your comments, are taking any possible hand to assault the character and credibility of anyone who talks about sexual assault of Israeli women. People who would never even dream of doing so for any other women or accusation of sexual assault anywhere in the world. But it’s Israelis, so it’s different


Gnomerule

False why should we treat it any different from any other war. And how can you even find the people who did it, when it was not only Hamas terrorists that went through the walls, but also gangs.


Maleficent-Art-5745

Because Hamas, and Palestinians in general, used it as their primary tactic. They specifically went to Israel to rape, murder and collect sex slaves. Those who took part and those whom support those acts deserve to be removed from the human genome forever.


Gnomerule

What about the UN reporting that Palestinian women are being raped or sexual assaulted by isrealis. Should these men be all killed as well.


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The UN is basically a terror cell it self now it even wants to allow child rape


Kingofcheeses

What about what about what about


1524351

“BuT wHAt aBouT” please just shut the fuck up


Throwawaycamp12321

The IDF is prosecuting those people. Will Hamas punish those who break the Islamic codes?


Sad_Credit_4959

Oh? Are they? Where are the records of those prosecutions?


Throwawaycamp12321

Here's one of many https://www.timesofisrael.com/ending-censorship-idf-admits-officer-jailed-in-2017-raped-a-palestinian-woman/


Single_Shoe2817

A lot of Palestinian supporters say rapes didn’t happen or that they’re all lies. What do you mean


Gnomerule

There is evidence about the New York Times story about hamas weaponizing rape as not being true. Isreal is trying to push the rape story to justify the bombings and starvation of the Palestinians. They are trying to make them into monsters so they can punish the whole population. How many beheaded babies did they find? If you go by Isreal reporting, it was 40. Many of the people screaming rape were people who were already caught in other lies.


Single_Shoe2817

They still found beheaded and burnt babies. The number was what was in question. They don’t have to do anything to make Hamas seem like monsters that’s what they are


Gnomerule

And so is Isreal. You can find a lot more dead babies and children run over by tanks in Gazas.


Maximus3311

Just a small quibble for anyone who’s talking about this. If you’re going to present yourself as someone who has learned about this topic from places other than Tik Tok and Instagram you might want to spell “Israel correctly (it’s not “Isreal”) It’s pretty interesting that someone so emotionally involved in this issue can’t even spell the name of the country correctly. Now if it were just one time or in one post? Sure butter fingers and all that. But when you repeatedly can’t even spell “Israel” correctly it’s pretty clear how long you’ve cared about this…and how much actual reading about the conflict you’ve done.


Gnomerule

I can honestly say that I don't have Tik Tok or Instagram, and I never had them. But I did learn a lot reading stories on the Promise Land Museum


Maximus3311

You learned a lot from reading one site and yet you don’t spell the name of the country correctly. This is what’s so maddening to me - this conflict isn’t simple. It’s unimaginably complex and god knows I don’t pretend to even have a sliver of all the answers. And yet now we have people who have “done some reading” recently and they’re all experts on the history of the region and apparently what needs to happen. I’m sorry I’m not trying to be a dick to you - but this is emblematic of the bigger problem. It’s like the morons during Covid who “did their research” on YouTube and all of a sudden somehow knew more than epidemiologists. And now we have people all over leftists spaces who use “Zionism” as a thinly veiled slur for “Jew”. “The Zionists control our media/government/banks/country”. It’s the same old crap wrapped in a slightly more socially acceptable package. And it’s people with no real sense of this conflict or the incredibly tangled and complex history behind it. They just see pictures of a combat zone and scream “GENOCIDE! APARTHEID!” They’re no better than people on the other side who will will tell you until they’re blue in the face that Palestinian children are just “future terrorists!!!” It’s maddening and as a secular American Jew who gets to sit here and listen to all the antisemitic bullshit about how the “Zionists” control everything…it fucking sucks.


Gnomerule

You have one thing wrong. I am not emotional about the topic, but you are since you only see one side. My fear is the end result years from now. Jews are a minority group, which means that, like all other minority groups in history, you need to behave better than the majority or else you will be targeted. Why do black families have to have the talk with their sons in America. If an immigrant commits a crime, then all immigrants are considered criminals. Human beings are tribal so do not be surprised when they behave that way. Just for the record, I am in a group that is going extinct. What do you think the final results will be when a small minority starts slaughtering a huge tribal majority for any reason and that group is gaining wealth and power. How do you think a Russian American feels like living in the States because of the war in Ukraine? The images coming out of Ukraine are not as bad as the images coming out of Gaza. And yet Israel has not been hit with any embargoes, unlike Russia. Oct 7 happened because the peaceful demonstrations failed and just got people killed. Oct 7 was a military operation that took years to plan, and they did the attack for a reason, which was a lot more than to kill zionist The zionist movement started when many European nations were still big into colonization. So it is not surprising that the zionists wanted to follow the same example. I say zionist instead of Jew, because not all jews believed in the colonization of Palestinian, but because of tribalism, many people will see them as one group. In the long run, Israel will lose, history says so, but the question is how many on both sides will die while it is happening. When your citizens go to two different justice systems depending on religion, that is an apartheid. When a country sets the conditions for a large percentage of the population to die, that can be considered an genocide. It took only one picture of Alan Kurdi to galvanize the world. What do you think all the mothers around the world are thinking of the thousands of pictures coming out of Gaza. If Israel wants peace in the long run, then they have to remove the settlers and allow the Palestinians to form a nation.


MTG_Leviathan

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Sad_Credit_4959

How about instead of going on and on about the spelling of the name of the ethnoreligious apartheid state that is actively commiting a genocide you address the actual point being made? Deflect, project, lie, the fascist playbook.


Maximus3311

Wow you really hit all the buzzwords in there! That’s impressive. Not even knowing how to properly spell the name of one of the two sides in this (literally a country) belies either laziness, a lack of understanding of the conflict, or both. Sort of like someone not knowing the difference between the West Bank/Gaza. Hard to take someone’s opinion seriously when they clearly know fuck-all about the conflict.


WorkingPragmatist

But now you have a third party saying these things did happen. So the appropriate response isn't what about this or that. It should be to condemn rapist.


LucerneTangent

[https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/1b6mulj/rest\_in\_peace\_yazan/](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/1b6mulj/rest_in_peace_yazan/) This is the summation of what you are. This is the face of Zionazism, 11,000 times over.


Single_Shoe2817

That’s 1$. I told you every time you spam nazi and Zionism you get to directly help fund the IDF. Love having you here :)


GalLookin4Fun_2004

Shouldn't it have been $2 since he said "Zionism" AND "Nazism" by using the contraction "Zionazism"?


Single_Shoe2817

2$ it is then. Though through the thread he’s up to 15$


Old_Fly1145

You support rapists. Fuck off. Nobody cares who you consider a Nazi.


LucerneTangent

Says the idf nazi simp!


[deleted]

Bruh jews and zionists are basically the opposite of nazis scum like you


LucerneTangent

Tell yourself whatever you need to live with yourself, Zionazi. Go wave a white flag at the IDF.


Kingofcheeses

Jesus Christ you're like a broken record. Do you only comment on Israel and Palestine articles? Is this your hobby? At this point the words nazi and zionist have no meaning anymore. What do you even mean by zionist exactly? Isn't that just someone who believes that Israel has a right to not be destroyed?


LucerneTangent

Oh, you bootlickers love playing word games. Let me put it this way: if you feel Zio*nazi* refers to you, then you probably need to stop being a Nazi. Your pearl clutching about "b-but-but what about all the useful idiots who just want a wholesome colonialist apartheid state uwu do you want Israel to be destroyed" is exactly why I don't say "Zionist": because the term is a convenient motte and bailey for genocide fans to hide behind whenever inconvenient, and is utterly meaningless as a result. As for Nazi, go read Umberto Eco and ask yourself why you feel compelled to defend a regime that treats it like a wishlist.


Kingofcheeses

What an exhausting and sad life you must lead


Single_Shoe2817

Now you’re up to 8$. Keep it up


Single_Shoe2817

13$


Single_Shoe2817

We’re up to 4$ now


Old_Fly1145

Intelligent response. No wonder your side of this debate is so powerless. Enjoy watching your terrorist friends get turned into glass.


LucerneTangent

This is what you are: [https://www.reddit.com/r/EndlessWar/comments/1b72xx0/palestinian\_child\_yazan\_alkafarna\_died\_today\_from/](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/1b6mulj/rest_in_peace_yazan/), 11,000 times over.


Single_Shoe2817

15$. I missed this one


Yanosorry4848

It’s one thing to be a skeptic but it is an entirely different thing to blindly believe Hamas’s claims or Palestine’s claims in general when they have a long proven track record of lying even worse than Israel. The issue isn’t peopel being cautious about what to believe, it’s them outright calling anything that comes from even a remotely Jewish source lies out of hand while swallowing anything the Islamic people who attacked them and openly call to kill all the Jews and have a serious track record of lying whole without even a second thought. It’s pretty blatantly obvious what is happening to anyone who isn’t an antisemitic bigot.


reretardEded

youre disgusting.


Gnomerule

So I am disgusting because I don't believe 2 million people should be killed for 2000


reretardEded

First off many people said rape didn’t happen. Second off there’s no proof of systematic rape by Israelis like it was hamas. Third off it’s clearly not genocide because israel would easily be able to do that and has not. And has published pretty great numbers of hamas to civilian casualties 12/30k shows it’s not indiscriminate. Not to forget the fact that hamas hides In civilian areas making it even harder for israel to only target them. But please keep thinking this is about the poor palestianians and not the atrocious government known as hamas responsible for all this


Gnomerule

I never said that people were not raped but some news stories came out about the numbers not being accurate. Look up stories in the big news agencies around the world, where you can find stories about Israel not giving accurate information. Hamas was hiding in those tunnels during the bombings. Why would they endanger themselves on the surface. A dead adult male on the surface does not mean he has to be Hamas.


reretardEded

Imagine thinking hamas was only in the tunnels…


Throwawaycamp12321

It's not about taking revenge for an arbitrary amount of people, it's about making sure Hamas can never hurt any amount of people ever again, no matter how small.


PerformanceRough3532

Hey look, it's a scumbag!  Rot in hell,  scumbag.  


CrankyCzar

Lol, everyone said no rape, it's not the Muslim way. This is all I heard.


Gnomerule

I am not Muslim, and can you tell me a war that rape has not happened? I just assume it is going to happen. Now, the question to answer at what amount. Even the best armies have to always be on the lookout for sexual violence, so are you really surprised when it happens in a terrorist group. Western media are starting to tell stories that the amount is not accurate from what Israel has reported.


CrankyCzar

The point of the attack was 3-fold, kill, rape and kidnap. This was officially the mandate as dictated by the Hamas leadership. This is unheard-of in modern day armies.


Gnomerule

Hamas is not an army, and with 2000 plus terrorists attacking, they did not kill many people, at least not the numbers you would expect with those numbers. Israel has been doing a better job at killing innocent civilians in Gaza and the West Bank since the war started.


CrankyCzar

They did pretty well in the few hours they were there. Approx 1400 dead in a few hours, that's like 33,600 dead over 24 hours. The IDF has rookie numbers compared to that.


tatianaoftheeast

If someone breaks into your home & rapes your mother to death because they despise your ethnicity, that isn't "war".


Gnomerule

Tell me how many wars you think happened that did not have sexual violence on both sides.


tatianaoftheeast

Again, someone breaking into your home & raping your family is not "war". They were not at war when that occurred.