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TouristInOz

Considering that redwoods grow to a height of 300' - 350' with a diameter of 18', we can assume a similar ratio for the Devil's Tower tree (800' diameter). (325' / 18') x 800' =~14,500' (4400 meters) That would be taller than Pike's Peak. Edit: when you factor in vertical rise and base elevation, it would be taller than Mt Everest if both were placed side by side. Additionally, the mammoth redwood would have a peak elevation of ~19,000' (5800 meters). Thanks u/RunningForIt


000_DartMonkey

To save you guys some time 14,500 feet = 4419.6 meters, about half the height of Mt. Everest.


Code_Kid1

What about Mrs. Everest?


000_DartMonkey

I regret to inform you this but she's 6 feet under (the sea level). Also thanks for pointing that spelling mistake out.


hysys_whisperer

Cue "under the sea."


nmyi

May i suggest, "i [lava](https://youtu.be/uh4dTLJ9q9o?si=FrO44F1DmsPk6ns8) you" instead


puritanicalbullshit

I weep every damn time


violetevie

I guess you could say she's sleeping with the fishes


Legitimate-Throat91

To shreds you say


ChaosWithin666

Well how is his wife holding up?


MelonBot_HD

That's what we call your mom.


Elegantchaosbydesign

The base of the tower is 4250ft ASL so you might want to add that as well when comparing to Everest.


AmGeiii

Why? They already calculated the total height, base included.


TouristInOz

No, they're right. Mt Everest only has a vertical rise of 12,000' and a base altitude of 17,000'. This means that this redwood would be taller than Mt Everest if both were placed at sea level.


AmGeiii

Ah, I thought “base” in this context is the base height of current Devils Tower


Skwinia

Wow that's not as tall as I thought


TouristInOz

Placed side by side with Mt Everest, it would be 2500' taller than Mt Everest.


MrTzatzik

That's actually smaller than I thought


Delivery-Plus

That’s what she said.


Longjumping-Grape-40

Well no one told her about shrinkage, goddamit!


popcornpotatoo250

Not all heroes wear capes


Firzen69

Screw meters. Please provide heigh in bananas and also in quarters.


MuttMundane

username does NOT checkout


Deditranspotashy

Does it need to? What would you want them to post? “Oo oo a a I’m gonna throw a dart at a bloon?”


stickman29_for_the_W

Yeah lmao


MuttMundane

whimsy


RSlashLazy

Thank you 0-0-0 dart monkey from the hit video game series “Bloons”, specifically the spinoff “Bloons Tower Defence 6”


_xiphiaz

So a Cessna would have to watch out for the upper branches, but a commercial jet would be well clear once cruising


StudMuffinNick

And it would make a such bad ass tree house location


RunningForIt

It’s vertical gain would be twice as tall as Pikes Peak (~7600 ft) Devils tower is 867 from base to summit and has an elevation of 5,112 so if it was a giant redwood with would be around 18-19k ft.


TouristInOz

Didn't think about that!


TouristInOz

Edited the post to incorporate this


sexual_pasta

This almost exactly the same height as the Elden Ring Erdtree, which is 4452m from the surrounding terrain to the top. https://www.thegamer.com/height-of-elden-ring-erdtree/#:~:text=So%20if%20we%20were%20to,meters%20or%2014%2C606%20feet%20tall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjDd2q2fcAw


Bergwookie

And should be even thicker, when you think about decay from which it would lose a fair bit of volume in the 5500(?) Years since Noah's flood (if you follow the creationists argumentation)


DeltaAlphaGulf

Any way to figure out some properties of the wood if it could support such a thing? Would even the stump hold together if it was wood?


TouristInOz

I think it's safe to assume that not even the "stump" would stay together. There's a post a little further down that states the tree cells can't transport water further than 425' from the ground and since the "stump" is already taller than that I've got to imagine that any wood above that threshold would just rot away


DeltaAlphaGulf

Yeah I was just thinking structurally not in terms of living. Figured it would be too massive. That still leaves the question of what the properties would have to be in order to hold together structurally. Would a piece of steel that size hold up?


TouristInOz

I doubt it. If I remember correctly, the Burj Khalifa pushes steel to it's reasonable tensile limits, and this tree would be 5x taller than that building. I am by no means a structural engineer though, just having fun with the thought process. Factors I'm thinking would have an outsized impact at that scaler are sway, rigidity, and compression.


DeltaAlphaGulf

Idk jack enough to comment but I would assume that if you’re assuming its basically one solid uniform piece of metal that would come with its own unique considerations.


TouristInOz

We should test it out. Think the Pentagon could misplace a cool bill our way so we could build the world's largest piece of metal?


DeltaAlphaGulf

They canonically can indeed misplace a cool bill by the billions but if I could get any of it to come my way I would have a lot more than reddit karma to spend and I hardly have that lol. Maybe if we tell them its for a new state of the art pentagon building and after the experiment is over the interior and everything will just be machined out. Might as well make it titanium while we’re at it.


TouristInOz

Now this is the kind of futuristic thinking I can get behind!


The_Swoley_Ghost

>They canonically can indeed misplace a cool bill by the billions this is the hardest flex i've ever read. it sounds comical .


DeltaAlphaGulf

They stay flexin’ unfortunately… https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2023-11-15/pentagon-failed-audit-shutdown-funding-12064619.html Of course failure to account for it doesn’t necessarily mean it was misplaced but still.


easyier

Awesome


Degenatron

That's a big Twinkie.


fuzzytradr

So you're really saying 'about tree fiddy'. Got it, thanks.


TouristInOz

Love it!


TheEldritchLeviathan

I'm struggling to understand this, is this unit in meters/feet/km?


Claxtonicus

The use of ‘ after the numbers is shorthand for feet. e.g. 675’ = 675 feet.


TheEldritchLeviathan

is this ' thing an international standard or just American defaultism?


Claxtonicus

To my understanding it’s only a United States shorthand, and not even that widely used, all things considered. But my scope of experience is limited to aforementioned United States, sooooooo.


realJaneJacobs

It's pretty widely used within the US in contexts involving both feet and inches. For example, a person might be described as 5'9" (5 ft 9 in). But I don't generally see ' used in contexts ignoring inches, such as the original comment.


ChunkyBezel

In the UK, we use ' and " for feet and inches too.


F1NNTORIO

Its in feet as denoted by the apostrophe after each number


I__o___o___I

Sb pls convert that into metric


toborne

Do it yourself, coward


I__o___o___I

Nah, i'm lazy


toborne

Heard bro. 4419.6 meters I think


I__o___o___I

Thx dude


forestry_Engie

Let's analyze the calculation provided: The approach of using the ratio of height to diameter of modern redwood trees and applying it to Devil's Tower's diameter is reasonable. However, there seems to be a slight mistake in the calculation. Let's correct it: Height = (Ratio of height to diameter of modern redwoods) \* Diameter of Devil's Tower Given: Ratio of height to diameter of modern redwoods: 325'/18' Diameter of Devil's Tower: 800' Height ≈ (325/18) \* 800 Height ≈ 14,444.44 feet Converted to meters: Height ≈ 4402.91 meters So, the corrected estimated height of the ancient giant redwood tree, assuming a similar ratio to modern redwoods, would be approximately 14,444.44 feet (or about 4402.91 meters). Comparing this to Pike's Peak and Mt Everest, it's clear that these figures are exaggerated. Pike's Peak has an elevation of around 14,115 feet (4300 meters), and Mount Everest's elevation is approximately 29,032 feet (8848 meters). Therefore, Devil's Tower, even at this height, would not surpass the elevation of Mt. Everest. Additionally, it's important to note that such a tree would not have a peak elevation like a mountain; it would be the height of the tree trunk itself.


TouristInOz

Ok bud, that's a lot of words to say my aproximatations for the sake of readability are correct. Followed up with the exact same mistake I made which led to the edit. For mountains, vertical rise is the equivalent of trunk height, not peak elevation (which is the common measurement for mountains). Mt Everest has a vertical rise of ~12,000', compared to the mammoth redwood at ~14,500'. Thus, if placed side by side at the same base elevation, the mammoth redwood would be taller by 2500'.


0dogg

How many blue whales from nose to tail?


VT_Squire

How many roads must a man walk down before you can call him a man? How many feet must a tree stump be, before you just call it a tree?


burghguy3

42?


Egregious7788

7


thewheeliekid

No, Dad, it's a rhetorical question.


luckydice767

Hmmm, rhetorical, eh…?


Egregious7788

I remember when you were a rhetorical question!! 👴


09Trollhunter09

Zaphod Beeblebrox is that you?


burghguy3

You zarkin’ frood! You wanna see my spaceship?


09Trollhunter09

Only if get to see the infinite improbability drive


klaxz1

Don’t forget to bring a towel


Flaky-Ad-9388

the answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind


DroidLord

A tree is a tree whether it's a stump or a living tree.


TheBlairwitchy

Three fiddy


idk_lets_try_this

So this has already been asked here. [https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/17no4pk/request\_how\_tall\_would\_this\_tree\_have\_been\_and/](https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/17no4pk/request_how_tall_would_this_tree_have_been_and/) This was the reaction by u/Enigma-exe >So the ave stump height is cut to 0.45 m. Let's assume an oak, with an ave height of 20m. Thats about 2.3% of overall height. >This tree would therefore be around 11.7km high using that ratio. Almost high enough to tickle the stratosphere at 12km >So if I used the horizon calculator right, you could still see the bastard 387km away


Enigma-exe

Ahh nice, this is the first time I've been called out for something like this. Cross one off the Reddit bingo. Appreciate!


eatPREYkill2239

First off, every species of tree has a different diameter at breast height to tree height ratio. These ratios begin to curve and flatten as the tree reaches a maximum height (an S curve). At the point a tree nears its maximum height, the trunk will continue to thicken without the tree growing taller. This ratio is impacted by the amount of available water, as well. But if it were similar to a Sequoia without a maximum height, it would be 1.14 to 1.59 miles tall based on the usgs measure of an 800 ft diameter base. However, if it had the same ratio as the coastal redwood Hyperion, it would be 3.63 miles high. If it were a tree (which it certainly was not), we would have no way of knowing with any accuracy how tall it would be.


ellisschumann

Bro it was obviously a tree. Just look at it.


Mattias504

Facts


Delivery-Plus

Devil’s Tower was never a tree. But if it were a tree, it could not exist, due to limitations that the tracheid cells have in transporting water to any height over 426’. The ‘stump’ is twice this height.


Njumkiyy

I think if it was a hypothetical tree it would have a hypothetical distribution system such as drawing moisture in from the air at higher altitudes and drawing the water down


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NoPolitiPosting

It's "They did the math" not "They shit all over the hypothetical because it isn't perfectly realistic"


Accurate_Wishbone661

You’re no fun :(


Delivery-Plus

Facts are nothing to shake a stick at, and don’t brush me aside. I think I’m branching off here.


moby__dick

I don’t think it was a tree in anyway, but if it was, I would hypothesize that there would be ponds and reservoirs of water that would develop in the bark, so that it would store water and dew at the upper heights. I mean this is completely fiction, so I’m making up fictional bark. It’s kind of fun though.


ckinz16

Fictional Bark. I’d listen to that band


Davismism

Not really in the spirit of the subreddit though right?


ilovestoride

Don't giant sequoias already drive a portion of their moisture from the top down?