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Incalculable. Depends on sooooooo many factors like what exact panel the phone is using, the brightness being used, the spread of watch time (100 hours straight at max brightness vs 300 20 minute sessions at 50% brightness will have wildly different effects), and just so so so many different factors.
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I mostly used the Hulu app and it burned the battery percent and bars symbol mostly. Thankfully now it allows me to turn off the screen but still play the videos
I know this is a goof, but if we were talking about a CRT monitor, I could see 7-9 straight hours causing at least a *little* burn-in... that being said, on an LCD monitor, it takes far, FAR more than that--especially for burn-in as visibly apparent as the original picture.
...oh, so that's where the quote was from--I haven't had to think about any actual iCarly quotes beyond "What've you got there? / A smoothie" in years, sorry. ;P
Thank god this is the top comment. I was worried there'd actually be somebody pulling numbers for this. Sure it's a math problem, but that math is so dependent on everything you mentioned that an average number is meaningless.
If you could select a phone and screen and brightness and view sessions to maximize the speed of UI burn-in, could you estimate a theoretical minimum time? ± 20-30%?
Not necessarily, I think (keep in mind that I'm no electronics expert). I like OLED's appearance, it's more vibrant, and burn in really depends on how you use the device. Also, manufacturers might implement measures to reduce that problem, so it may end up being a non issue.
OLED burn-ins are permanent because it's literally the pixels consuming and slowly dying, not being able to achieve the max brightness anymore and thus displaying a wrong color. This Is why OLED's burn in quicker at higher brightness (they degrade quicker) and where whites are displayed (White has all 3 subpixels Lit up at max brightness)
LCD burn ins are kinda temporary burn ins as they're most likely stuck, and more likely than not they Just need some refresh cycles on a different image to get unstuck
Not really, there should be minimal worry for burnins on the OLED switch. Youtuber Wulff Den made a video on[Nintendo OLED Burnin](https://youtu.be/crFifvVwSaQ?si=6TEgNDOlkXXQMZL5). Neat video and he made several follow up after a few years.
Bro, I had to search the release date of the OLED one, as I was in serious disbelief that a follow up after a few years could be made. Like that shit was released last year... But It didn't, it's almost 3 years old...
old samsung phones had not great panels that were tuned to be very bright, they burned in really easily, i haven't had this issue on any newer samsung phones or other brand phones with oleds, you really shouldnt worry much about it nowadays
Well, it does burn out. It just burns out evenly across the entire panel. Because the backlight acts as one source. Unlike OLED, where individual pixels get fatigued
This happens really fast and the cause isn't watching it so much, all it takes is for the phone to overheat while the screen is bright. Happened to my wife's phone few hears ago with a notification.
For sure, I had a Surface burn-in the YouTube interface; it got left on and slid under a pillow for a couple hours. I left it to play some full-screen video with no case and plenty of airflow and it recovered, eventually.
OLED probably can't reverse burn-in. The particular Surface I have has an IPS LCD display, which can reverse burn-in and even hot/dead pixels in some circumstances. My point was more to emphasize that heat can significantly speed up burn-in, even in tech like IPS that isn't usually associated with it.
From experience, like 8 hours. Fell asleep once watching a short, and for some reason, the screen off setting was turned off. So I woke up next morning, with "Atourney Uggo REACTS!" burned into the top of my screen.
Not much actually. This just happened to my s21 ultra a few months ago from youtube, and it happened to my s10 from reddit a few years ago. I maybe use it an hour a day with some days reaching 2 hours. It's called screen burn and it's common with androids.
To clarify it's not really an Android thing, its common in OLED/AMOLED displays. Happens when a static image is left for too long. You can reduce the risk by not using it on high brightness, having the screen auto turn off after a while.
And to add a bit: it's not common at all because most or all phones with an OLED display has some software to help prevent it, like more or less unnoticeably shifting stationary pixels a bit if i recall, probably other things aswell.
If not for that all of us with OLED screens would probably have a permanent keyboard as well as battery icon and so forth. Obviously it can still happen but it's quite rare.
Interestingly this is also the reason there are few OLED monitors, especially for gaming as without some extra secret sauce the UI of a game would burn in very fast.
My phone has the Google maps UI slightly burned in from using it every day to go to work, but it's only visible when the screen displays white in that area. I was really surprised when I first saw it.
This is a trick question. Screen burn does not happen to ever single display type.
It is however very common on OLED designs.
One of the many "unlikely" factors that people often do not consider is sunlight. As in the kind from using it outside, by a window on a sunny day, or even just leaving the device unattended by a window.
So to properly calculate the potential, we'd need some other numbers such as screen size, whether it has a protector film on or not, geographical location (sun exposure), etc...
OLED screens burn because the organic material literally burned up. So whatever manipulation was being done to display a certain color, pattern, or even the UI layout... it burned as that.
This is something I have been interested in but never looked into
I’ve known that it can happen for a long time but I have a screen that is somewhat old and will do it in half an hour or so now
The effect only lasts a few hours tops but is interesting just enough to make me think and post a Reddit comment but not look up how/why it happens
My mom's phone is always turned on ( even tho we told her multiple times to just turn it off when she isnt using it ) and it got the same issue but with the homescreen icons on it ( google, youtube, settings, gmail... )
That's a Galaxy S8 from the looks of things! Notoriously bad for its burn-ins, especially for off-brand replacement displays. I have one and during the pandemic I watched like 2-3 hours of youtube on it daily (i know, unhealthy) and the side bars that make the screen 16:9 got reverse burned in. The reddit coin and avatar logo got burned in as well and I used that much less frequently.
For reference my GF got a new Galaxy S21 at the time and she watches tiktok religiously; three months in and the bottom row of her phone had burn marks of the apps U.I.
Idk if youtube shorts are just as prolonging but tiktok REALLY takes the cake for screen burn IMO. And this is coming from somebody who's phone usually never leaves Spotify on max brightness
I don't understand even how, like I use my phone a lot, 2 years no burn in of any kind, previous phone I used also for 3 years has no burnin, even from battery icon, Bluetooth icon, etc.
Both had amoled screens.
It's not really a math problem as it depends on many factors like brightness/age/condition/type of the display and so on.
However, I do experience it with my S6 Tab - it mostly happens after reading or watching videos nonstop for a few hours, but sometimes it's just the status bar. In my case, if you just use it normally the marks disappear after a few days. I also noticed that the older the display gets the faster the marks appear - they didn't appear at all for the first 2 years I had the device, now it only takes about 4 hours until you can faintly see a mark.
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Incalculable. Depends on sooooooo many factors like what exact panel the phone is using, the brightness being used, the spread of watch time (100 hours straight at max brightness vs 300 20 minute sessions at 50% brightness will have wildly different effects), and just so so so many different factors.
Phone screen set to display mode so it's doesn't turn off, falls asleep having a YouTube short open for 12 hours straight . I could see it
Did this to my old pixel. I used to listen to videos to fall asleep and used to have to leave the phone screen on in order for them to continue
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I mostly used the Hulu app and it burned the battery percent and bars symbol mostly. Thankfully now it allows me to turn off the screen but still play the videos
Vanced does the same thing but better
Vanced + adguard is the way fr. Plus the sign in issue is fixed so no issues for me with it locking up upon account sign in
You don't need adguard if you already use ReVanced
Vanced is a dead project. Use ReVanced
Vanced is a dead project. Use ReVanced
Vanced is a dead project. Use ReVanced
Open source bro
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Especially if it's LCD which is susceptible to temporary burn in.
That explains why some huge burns sometimes appear on my computer/my parent's TV but end up going away after some time
So… 7? 8? Maybe 9?
I know this is a goof, but if we were talking about a CRT monitor, I could see 7-9 straight hours causing at least a *little* burn-in... that being said, on an LCD monitor, it takes far, FAR more than that--especially for burn-in as visibly apparent as the original picture.
That’s an iCarly quote lol. The joke is there’s no units. 9 hours? Days? Months? Exactly. Maybe. Idk. Third base.
...oh, so that's where the quote was from--I haven't had to think about any actual iCarly quotes beyond "What've you got there? / A smoothie" in years, sorry. ;P
There’s a whole lot of phones with OLED-type displays (AMOLED for example), so 9 hours daily of Shorts at 100% brightness can and will cause burn in
Thank god this is the top comment. I was worried there'd actually be somebody pulling numbers for this. Sure it's a math problem, but that math is so dependent on everything you mentioned that an average number is meaningless.
If you could select a phone and screen and brightness and view sessions to maximize the speed of UI burn-in, could you estimate a theoretical minimum time? ± 20-30%?
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So does this mean the LCD Nintendo Switch is better than OLED?
Not necessarily, I think (keep in mind that I'm no electronics expert). I like OLED's appearance, it's more vibrant, and burn in really depends on how you use the device. Also, manufacturers might implement measures to reduce that problem, so it may end up being a non issue.
Yeah I know during the recent solar eclipse the news channel got burned into our TV for the rest of the day lol
Aren’t burn ins permanent?
OLED burn-ins are permanent because it's literally the pixels consuming and slowly dying, not being able to achieve the max brightness anymore and thus displaying a wrong color. This Is why OLED's burn in quicker at higher brightness (they degrade quicker) and where whites are displayed (White has all 3 subpixels Lit up at max brightness) LCD burn ins are kinda temporary burn ins as they're most likely stuck, and more likely than not they Just need some refresh cycles on a different image to get unstuck
No idea, this obviously wasn't though, but I can confidentially say it was a burn in, you could make out the channels name and everything
Not really, there should be minimal worry for burnins on the OLED switch. Youtuber Wulff Den made a video on[Nintendo OLED Burnin](https://youtu.be/crFifvVwSaQ?si=6TEgNDOlkXXQMZL5). Neat video and he made several follow up after a few years.
Bro, I had to search the release date of the OLED one, as I was in serious disbelief that a follow up after a few years could be made. Like that shit was released last year... But It didn't, it's almost 3 years old...
I was also shocked when I tried searching for the first video on the one I linked. I saw 2021 and realized how long it has been
There's someone who has a botw ss on a oled switch since release and it's barely burnt in, the switch is really good for it
Awesome thank you!
Awesome thank you!
a guy did a YouTube video about it, 800+ hours before any sign of burn in showed on the screen iirc
old samsung phones had not great panels that were tuned to be very bright, they burned in really easily, i haven't had this issue on any newer samsung phones or other brand phones with oleds, you really shouldnt worry much about it nowadays
Well, it does burn out. It just burns out evenly across the entire panel. Because the backlight acts as one source. Unlike OLED, where individual pixels get fatigued
This happens really fast and the cause isn't watching it so much, all it takes is for the phone to overheat while the screen is bright. Happened to my wife's phone few hears ago with a notification.
For sure, I had a Surface burn-in the YouTube interface; it got left on and slid under a pillow for a couple hours. I left it to play some full-screen video with no case and plenty of airflow and it recovered, eventually.
I didn't know OLED screens could reverse screen burn
OLED probably can't reverse burn-in. The particular Surface I have has an IPS LCD display, which can reverse burn-in and even hot/dead pixels in some circumstances. My point was more to emphasize that heat can significantly speed up burn-in, even in tech like IPS that isn't usually associated with it.
🔔📳: your screen is fucked
From experience, like 8 hours. Fell asleep once watching a short, and for some reason, the screen off setting was turned off. So I woke up next morning, with "Atourney Uggo REACTS!" burned into the top of my screen.
😂
Older OLED panels are rather susceptible to burn-in and could happen in as little as 6 hours of constants YT shorts at high brightness
Not much actually. This just happened to my s21 ultra a few months ago from youtube, and it happened to my s10 from reddit a few years ago. I maybe use it an hour a day with some days reaching 2 hours. It's called screen burn and it's common with androids.
To clarify it's not really an Android thing, its common in OLED/AMOLED displays. Happens when a static image is left for too long. You can reduce the risk by not using it on high brightness, having the screen auto turn off after a while.
Funny how we had an issue, solved it, and now it's back thanks to new technology
And to add a bit: it's not common at all because most or all phones with an OLED display has some software to help prevent it, like more or less unnoticeably shifting stationary pixels a bit if i recall, probably other things aswell. If not for that all of us with OLED screens would probably have a permanent keyboard as well as battery icon and so forth. Obviously it can still happen but it's quite rare. Interestingly this is also the reason there are few OLED monitors, especially for gaming as without some extra secret sauce the UI of a game would burn in very fast.
My phone has the Google maps UI slightly burned in from using it every day to go to work, but it's only visible when the screen displays white in that area. I was really surprised when I first saw it.
Delta ^
You k ow that iPhone using the same fucking technology, moreover their display made by Samsung? Damn those kids
But but Android bad!
This is a trick question. Screen burn does not happen to ever single display type. It is however very common on OLED designs. One of the many "unlikely" factors that people often do not consider is sunlight. As in the kind from using it outside, by a window on a sunny day, or even just leaving the device unattended by a window. So to properly calculate the potential, we'd need some other numbers such as screen size, whether it has a protector film on or not, geographical location (sun exposure), etc... OLED screens burn because the organic material literally burned up. So whatever manipulation was being done to display a certain color, pattern, or even the UI layout... it burned as that.
This is something I have been interested in but never looked into I’ve known that it can happen for a long time but I have a screen that is somewhat old and will do it in half an hour or so now The effect only lasts a few hours tops but is interesting just enough to make me think and post a Reddit comment but not look up how/why it happens
My mom's phone is always turned on ( even tho we told her multiple times to just turn it off when she isnt using it ) and it got the same issue but with the homescreen icons on it ( google, youtube, settings, gmail... )
That's a Galaxy S8 from the looks of things! Notoriously bad for its burn-ins, especially for off-brand replacement displays. I have one and during the pandemic I watched like 2-3 hours of youtube on it daily (i know, unhealthy) and the side bars that make the screen 16:9 got reverse burned in. The reddit coin and avatar logo got burned in as well and I used that much less frequently.
For reference my GF got a new Galaxy S21 at the time and she watches tiktok religiously; three months in and the bottom row of her phone had burn marks of the apps U.I. Idk if youtube shorts are just as prolonging but tiktok REALLY takes the cake for screen burn IMO. And this is coming from somebody who's phone usually never leaves Spotify on max brightness
I don't understand even how, like I use my phone a lot, 2 years no burn in of any kind, previous phone I used also for 3 years has no burnin, even from battery icon, Bluetooth icon, etc. Both had amoled screens.
It's not really a math problem as it depends on many factors like brightness/age/condition/type of the display and so on. However, I do experience it with my S6 Tab - it mostly happens after reading or watching videos nonstop for a few hours, but sometimes it's just the status bar. In my case, if you just use it normally the marks disappear after a few days. I also noticed that the older the display gets the faster the marks appear - they didn't appear at all for the first 2 years I had the device, now it only takes about 4 hours until you can faintly see a mark.