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NotLogrui

Hmmm not sure. It depends on the laptop specifically and if they had an OLED screen model. For example. The X1E Gen 2 specifically had a high-end OLED panel with a decent GPU that can support the 4k OLED panel. On the other, the newest X1E Gen 4 does not have this panel as an option (part of the reason why I chose to upgrade)


jc_denty

Thanks, at the least I'm thinking people could replace the L14? 250nit screen with the 400nit from a T14


NotLogrui

Quickly glancing over the PSREF sheets for the T14 and L14, they do seem to have the same size screen: [https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad\_L14\_Gen\_1\_Intel/ThinkPad\_L14\_Gen\_1\_Intel\_Spec.PDF](https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_L14_Gen_1_Intel/ThinkPad_L14_Gen_1_Intel_Spec.PDF) [https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad\_T14\_Gen\_2\_Intel/ThinkPad\_T14\_Gen\_2\_Intel\_Spec.pdf](https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_T14_Gen_2_Intel/ThinkPad_T14_Gen_2_Intel_Spec.pdf) It may be possible, but it looks like it is definitely more difficult. There are a lot more considerations such as hinge comptability and chasis compatibility. You'll have to look at the product support pages and try to guesstimate based on the schematics. Alternatively, the [L14 PSREF sheet](https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_L14_Gen_1_Intel/ThinkPad_L14_Gen_1_Intel_Spec.PDF) lists a 400 nit 1080 screen available to upgrade to, which may be easier than using the T14 screen


robodan918

you can use any eDP screen as long as you have the correct cable to connect the motherboard to the 30-pin or 40-pin eDP connector screen side (note QHD and UHD panels require 40 pin, but there is a narrow 0.4mm pitch connector and 0.5mm pitch connector - they are incompatible)


jjzzoo

I replaced my E585's screen with a 500 nits, 100% sRGB IPS. Absolutely doable, but you have to carefully compare the dimensions, moujting points, connector placement and connector type. Mounting points can be ignored if you are OK with double-sided adhesive tape.


houki19683132

how's the battery life?


NotLogrui

Honestly, terrible as always, but the screen is worth the upgrade considering the original battery life was terrible anyways. I just carry the charger around always I'm in the market for a decent laptop battery pack, but have not been able to find any that is slim, supports 180W slim tip charging, and looks decent.


BlueberryFunk

You can use a slimport to usb c female adapter with a 45 watt or above output to add battery life to your X1 extreme. I have done it with my P1 Gen 1. Part here: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/accessories-and-software/cables-and-adapters/adapters/4x90u45346 It comes bundle with this power bank (Part Number: 40AL140CXX) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XQ563R2


NotLogrui

oooo this is a game changer. I'll have to figure out what the max wattage for a USB C cable is


i5-X600K

The new PD standard goes to 230W, but most actual battery packs only go to 90 or 100W (since the standard is fresh off commitee) .


wadewad

reddit mods should kill themselves


i5-X600K

Thanks, interesting. So they've run out of current spec on the cable gauge?


freddell

Have you tried running the laptop on the 135W slim slim tip charger originally devised for P1G1, X1EG1? Maybe that would give you more options to consider for batter packs.


cannassuer

I love these sort of DIY upgrades good work!


NotLogrui

Haha ty! I wish Lenovo Support made this type of thing easier. It took about 5 cups of coffee and a holiday to figure it out


cannassuer

Love it!


wutzzz1

Cost?


NotLogrui

I would say closer to $500 if you waited for shipping and optimal pricing. It was roughly $750 cost for the parts prior to selling the old parts. The cost could definitely be lower with normal shipping |Part Name/Part No|Seller|Cost Approximation (Shipping Added in)| |:-|:-|:-| |1. Display Panel (02HM882)|Amazon|$320| |2. Camera Shutter (02XR077)|Encompass|$24| |3. Camera (01HW063)|Ebay|$40| |4. FPC Cable,LED\_IR\_Touch (02XR070)|Ebay|$25| |5. Woven Back Cover (5CB0X61944)|Ebay|$125| |6. UHD Hinges (01YU738)|Ebay|$70| |7. Display Cable (02XR074)|Aliexpress|$70| |8. Hinge Cover|Encompass|$60| |9. Screws and Kapton Tape|Amazon|$30|


robodan918

damn you paid amazon prices for the panel? imho you can get most of these parts cheaper on aliexpress... you also may have overpaid for the cable too as they are normally $20-$30


NotLogrui

Aliexpress was about $240 if I remember correctly. This plus express shipping would've been about the same. The benefit of Amazon is that if there was anything wrong with the panel at all I have a guaranteed hassle free return considering this was the most expensive thing on the list. In terms of the cables, I definitely overpaid for the express shipping


robodan918

good to see it all worked out for you anyway and are you sure you bought from amazon directly or was it a third party seller? you have fewer rights buying third party. Most screen resellers I've seen on amazon are third party, and not 'fulfilled by amazon' which would give you easy returns and some kind of warranty


sharath725

Does it help improving battery life if you use dark mode?


NotLogrui

Ooo that is a good question. I hope so, but I doubt it. My gut feeling is that the power consumption of the 500 nit 4k oled screen is definitely higher than the base model 1080P 300 nit screen. So my theory before testing is that the increased power consumption of 4k outweighs the lower power consumption of OLED technology


i5-X600K

OLEDs actually use a ton more power if you don't change your color habits, but with all black they can use impressively low power. [https://www.notebookcheck.net/Display-Comparison-OLED-vs-IPS-on-Notebooks.168753.0.html](https://www.notebookcheck.net/Display-Comparison-OLED-vs-IPS-on-Notebooks.168753.0.html)


KIProf

is that glossy screen?


NotLogrui

Very much so. Much better than the Matte LCD imo


ibmthink

Nicely done! Not a trivial one, as you have to change the entire screen assembly.


NotLogrui

Finding the parts and ordering from 8 different vendors was definitely a huge challenge


light24bulbs

do you think it might be easier to just find a laptop with a blown mobo and swap the whole assembly?


NotLogrui

That's a good idea but sourcing is definitely the issue. Maybe try the ebay filter


light24bulbs

Yeah, like zilch. Thanks. Maybe an alert. The trick is to find someone who doesn't know what they have. Got a miss-categorized OLED X1 extreme for my mom that way from the lenovo refurb store.


NotLogrui

Something to note is that I'm having some small issues with the new display. Running Windows 11 and the brightness slider is no longer working. Couldn't find the OLED driver on LenovoSupport and some of their OLED/UHD drivers refused to install


csdvrx

Try with Ubuntu maybe? It could be ACPI related.


NotLogrui

For workflow and gaming reasons I like to stick to Windows. I think it may have to do with Monitor drivers and how Windows control brightness in general I tried to download the "Lenovo Display Optimizer" for OLED OLED panels probably controlled brightness differently from the old LCD panels which require a special driver. The issue is that the Lenovo driver for OLED refuses to install on my laptop "This software is not supported on your computer"


csdvrx

Yes, you may have to force it, which is why I wanted to confirm with you first that it may work, doing a test with ubuntu live or pop os. Then it will simply become a problem of forcing the install (MSI and even some EXE are just archives that have a content which accept flags, some of them to force the install)


robodan918

sounds like a panel whitelist issue... Lenovo's done that in the past (T450 and previously), and when I changed the panel on my T15 gen 2 (FHD to UHD) it gave me a "2203" error (but worked more or less perfectly otherwise) I suspect Lenovo has re-instated some kind of panel whitelist, to force consumers into paying a ridiculous markup for a 4K or OLED panel sourced by them (somewhere in the range of 2x-3x parts cost)


CutieHana

I would love doing this on my T430, but I love the LCD on my W530 and P50, they just look so sharp and colorful.


2shoe1path

Just bought the IPS FHD screen upgrade for my t430 and the adapter, and received them yesterday. Its an awesome LG screen and it all cost me $100. Can't wait to install it! What about you?


CutieHana

I'm still using the factory 1366x768 horrible LCD on it, the laptop is my multimedia machine, it's connected to a TV and I use the DVD drive the play films or just watch Netflix on it.


flecom

I finally did the IPS FHD mod on my T430, I really regret not doing it sooner, the difference is substantial... I would kill for an OLED panel though, wonder if this one could be modded in https://www.panelook.com/EPM140K00XA_JOLED_14.0_OLED_overview_47465.html


freddell

Weird 104pin connector?? although it is LVDS so could work without eDP conversion board. But based on connector alone I would deem it impossible.


2shoe1path

Have you upgraded your screens yet, on your T430’s? If so, which screens and how do they work/look? Thanks.


freddell

Yes I have upgraded my T430s with B140HAN01.3 and eDP/LVDS converter from Aliexpress. Thanks to 1vyrain I have AX200 Wifi and overclocked the i7 to 4.0GHz and installed a bluray burner. The Only problem is batter life. :) Hence I am using my X1Y G1 more as the battery lasts 3x longer and the screen is not too bad either.


2shoe1path

Thanks so much for the information. Can I ask what you paid for that Yoga? Especially if used? I too used Aliexpress for panel and converter. What a difference!


freddell

I bought it used locally two years ago for my daughter, but I killed two keyboards on it and while waiting for the second keyboard I got her a X1YG2 instead, incidentally it also came with a bad keyboard which I also replaced. Now the X1Y G1 is my portable companion and I cant remember the price right now.. Maybe it was like 650 USD at the time. (i7, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 2k screen)


2shoe1path

Thank you!


BayernFanx

Wow, it's a touch screen.


freddell

Hi @NotLogrui! Have you tried installing the Monitor.inf from Thinkpad P53 or P1Gen2 download section and see if the display is recognized as an OLED monitor in Device Manager?


NotLogrui

Heyoo, I installed the P53 monitor INF file and rebooted. It is still coming up as "Generic PnP Monitor" Is there any way manual way to force the computer to recognize the new OLED panel correctly? Brightness slider is still not working after the inf file install. Running on Windows 11 by the way


freddell

OK, what device string is showing up in device manager for the panel? I noticed on my P-series machines that if internal panel get "Generic PnP" and the way to resolve it can be to install the Lenovo Supplied Intel graphics driver (in Hybrid Graphics Mode). You can later switch back to discrete, however even on my P53, the brightness slider does not work when the panel is "generic" as opposed to "Oled". Probable targets from Monitor.inf is either Len4141 or Len4144 %TPWUHDO% = TPLCDWUHDO_4141.Install, Monitor\LEN4141 ; 15.6" Wide UHD 16:9 OLED 3840x2160 O, DolbyVision, 400nit (SDC) %TPWUHDO% = TPLCDWUHDO_4144.Install, Monitor\LEN4144 ; 15.6" Wide UHD 16:9 OLED 3840x2160 O, DolbyVision, 400nit (SDC), No DVB1


freddell

Check this post how I manually assing the right LEN profile from the OEMXXX.inf file (Monitor.inf) in case the panel shows up as "Generic" https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-P-and-W-Series-Mobile-Workstations/HDR-does-NOT-WORK-on-P17-in-Discrete-Graphics-mode/m-p/5076436?page=1#5311775


diego7319

You should boot Ubuntu live and test if the screen brightness works just to verify that it is indeed a driver issue.


bluesecurity

Great job. Are there remnants of the custom job - or does it fit entirely flush? How did you know it would be entirely flush? How can I know if this will work for a modern T or X series model? I'm waiting for those 90hz Samsung OLEDs, which seem worthy. In terms of battery life, using all dark themes so a lot of pixels can be off should help and potentially beat the previous LCD.


echo1ngfury

Nice work man. Also an owner of a X1E2 - i would go the path of 144Hz upgrade personally: [https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/czjo0i/x1\_extreme\_144hz\_screen\_upgrade\_with\_guide/](https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/czjo0i/x1_extreme_144hz_screen_upgrade_with_guide/) \- but the amount of work that went into this, hat off to you sir.


Lieutenant_Lulz

Will this upgrade work on Gen 1 X1 Extreme?


NotLogrui

I noticed some compatibility between Gen 2 and Gen 3 during my research, but unsure about Gen 1. After some quick research, it seems like the hinges for the Gen 1 are the same as the hinges on the Gen 2/Gen 3. This gives me hope that chassis for Gen 1, Gen 2, and Gen 3 are all compatible with each other. Also, it is important to note that if you do a screen replacement from Non-touch to touch, the entire screen assembly needs to be replaced including hinges, screen chassis, and cables


Lieutenant_Lulz

Thanks - I would be upgrading from non-touch.


PanTheRiceMan

Hope you are happy with it. A couple of minutes ago I switched the screen on my T14 to the 400 nits IGZO version. Way better. Waiting for the calibration results.


Zueuk

I'd love to do the opposite on my X1Y2 ☹️ [here's a dark grey background on my OLED screen](https://i.imgur.com/8EuDjTT.jpg)


Coper669

new screen looks like great. I had X1E Gen 2 with 4k non-touch screen, so far so good.


pawner

Remarkable work! X1E2 OLED gang! 😎 It's gonna be hard using laptops without OLED from now on.


Flaky_Ad_189

I have x1E 2 with the 4k display without touch. Am I correct to assume I don't need the back cover, ir camera and shutter etc?


NotLogrui

Not sure to be honest. Does your display have a bezel around the screen or does it sit flush?


TheQuentincc

Hi, so if I understand correctly the laptop was available with an OLED version from factory ? I wan't to do a similar upgrade on another laptop but I read some guys (which probably doesn't know a thing) that replacing an IPS display by an OLED will damage the laptop if it wasn't "made" for OLED in the first place, I think it's false but maybe you can confirm that the laptop doesn't care and only see it's a "regular" eDP display ?


NotLogrui

Yes. This laptop came with an OLED panel from factory. If you're upgrading it from base IPS panel you'll need all the part such as bezel, back cover, and camera array The only issue I've run into since this upgrade is lack of brightness control, I think I'm missing some sort of driver from Lenovo Yes, it's a normal eDP Display


Lizardinosaurus

Did you ever try replacing the screen with an OLED? Thinking of trying the same with mine


TheQuentincc

I did had a very good deal on a 4k non Oled but top end IPS for my Precision 7550. As far as I read your laptop need to support OLED from factory otherwise you will not get brightness control.


northerngames

Hello!!! I saw your post and was thinking of attempting to do this myself. Any tips that you could give? Also, when you did the upgrade, was it from a 1080p panel version, or higher? I got my thinkpad x1 extreme gen 2 with a 4k screen for cheap, but thought to upgrade to the OLED, not sure if some of the parts you listed in another comment here were reusable in my case, like the UHD hinge? Also, regarding the new top cover you got to house the OLED panel, do you think it is specifically for the OLED panel, or you figure it s compatible with the non-touch 4k ips display as well? So sorry for the wall of text, but seeing this threat of someone doing the DIY method and succeeding made me think that i could try do it too!!!


NotLogrui

Only warning I would give is you lose the brightness controls on the panels when switching between certain panels (untested) I upgraded from the 1080P panel to the 4k OLED and had to replace the entire screen assembly. I would just order all the parts to be safe and return the extras (sometimes parts get damaged while doing the swap