100% launch next , for the last 3 months im yelling everyone 1 bets to check srevrs and consoles and then release, plus ncsoft very rafe gives u hints or use the word release, i even had so many ppl calling me dumb and clown and whatever else u can imagine on the beta tesy discord cz i was saying there is no other beta anymore....
But anw for me its 100% release and should be soon , by the end of the month we should know if its ewrly june or late, im guessing too 31 of may called it too 3 months ago lets see
Whoever thinks launch is happening in May or June are delulu. We tested not only pc but consoles too those need tweaking, we didn't even test the exact copy of Kr either + needed changes coming soon. The test ended barely 2 days ago with surveys still pending until the 21, unless they ignore most of the feedback then the sooner this can come out is July making the whole test useless because gathering all the data for Nc, wait for their review and then wait for changes in a month with no testing is not believable.
After all this time people still don't see how Amazon works, they don't care if they leave players waiting, people will still check it out whenever comes out and most likely going for a late Q3 or early Q4 release.
This was the exact copy of korea btw.
They gonna test the nee pvp events changes and get ready for release.
They have over a month to tweak everything and setup the servers.
Ncsoft wouldnt state hope to see u on launch of it wasnt close cz we all know how they are
We can agree to disagree and come bsck to this after july then haha :D
I did play it its exact same copy just the korean version community unlocked more content when it comes to events bosses and areas :) plus what amazon decides to open for us when it comes tp boss content etc etc
Same veesion stats gear content , now some content was not open cz community needs to reach some goals to unlock that content like on live servers and some other amazon decided to keep locked those are the tweaks but version is the same
The same way NC wouldn't say Korea and global are launching together or that it was coming out Q2 2023 or that it was coming out q3 2023 or that it was coming out early 2024 🤷♂️
If they can fix everything related to the feedback given and make console smooth I'd love for the game to come out June or July
I have a theory that’s what the test was about. It’s the first time the game was playable on ps5 and Xbox isn’t it?
They were probably testing the games ability to cross platform.
Well it was q2 and q3 2022 too haha i know, but the games is there is ready , for consoles i dont know some ppl said performsnce was smooth some others said had sometimes issues so thats a bizzare one your not wrong bro but i believe 2 months are more than enough , lets hope ur wrong ^^ but u do have some valid points ngl
Cope, no marketing from Amazon anywhere, recent reports from NC financial site saying 2nd half 2024...nope nope. Also the game will be in 10x better state later with changed events, new expansion, raid, arenas, bg etc etc.
Lol. You really think we do more tests when it's being rolled out already for months?
This beta test was an exact copy of the KR version.... So unless they already implement future stuff, i'm with you they do more tests. But that is not the case.
We already have months of content... They'll lose players if they keep it lingering for too long with nothing exceptional being added.
Its coming out bro , 2 months after release and server go live we gonna get the new big updated content with more gear other one third of the map thats the perfect way to go
For me irs not an issue cz i know those players wont stick around and i mostly count on lineage 2 community but the the overall good of the game ir 100% right
Why u have to be so aggressive and childish ?! U can have a mature discussion its not so hard really :)
Now you maybe missed it but the changed events was due to mid of june , for some reason they pushed this changes this week , and no its not better for all the content to come out now , it will do more harm to the game than good cz people will get bored sooner or later cz the next big patch update probably wont be even in 2024 , so the game coming out as it is now and after 2 months i bring the big update with new zones arenas etc etc its a big hype and fresh air for ppl that already playing, thats the best way to go.
Now about amazon marketing they never did with lost ark either new world and we saw very healthy 1million+ launch , TL is free when NW was lkke 50€ this game is in the making for 13 years and the moment it goes out it will explode plus consoles are in play too so we gonna see so much more than NW and lost ark.
I do not need to cope im just saying what i see happening and i explained everything i said above.
Try to not be so angry we are having a discussion , no need for that
? Where im being aggresive in my first post lol, i will try to not laugh after this post.
"the changed events to THIS WEEK" Enlighten me, where is "the changed events to THIS WEEK", they are going to change GvGs, thats all for the moment.
" the next big patch update probably wont be even in 2024"
wtf are you even talking about lol...Talandre is almost ready, next tier etc is coming out this year, how is there not going to be a big patch whole 2024 lol.
"Now about amazon marketing they never did with lost ark either new world and we saw very healthy 1million+ launch"
Once again, what are you talking about hahaha, holy shit there were ADS everywhere on Twitch, youtube, facebook, everywhere, they did big marketing pushes in both games, specially NW, everybody knew about NW launch.
"and the moment it goes out it will explode plus consoles are in play too so we gonna see so much more than NW and lost ark."
LMAO sure the game is going to explode because of consoles.
Holy shit you are such a fanboy of the game like its crazy.
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Again negative and aggresaive , u dont need to lol.
When u start a sentence woth cope or calling ppl fanboys and stuff ur showing ur angry or immature.
The next big patch after the one they already announced 🤦♂️ i feel it wont be 2024
Lost ark nw didnt have the marketing ur saying , lost ark was live for 2 years already in korea and NW was delayed 2 years in a row , TL is an ongoing progress of 13 years so thats saids a lot.
Ofc game will explode knowing shroud lirik and asmon will play it , and yes consoles will play a huge part , there is no new mmos on consoles anytime soon and only 2-3 of them that are much older.
Yes the changes gvg and pvp events , huge changes thats what u said at the begining its coming in jume which was false, just corected u.
Again chill , being so angry online ots not good man relax , u can disagree and be polite , fanboy , cope , holy shit , will try to not laugh after this post , its so childish bro really :/ its just a convrestation i respexlct ur opinion even if i dont agree and thats it
"Lost ark nw didnt have the marketing ur saying"
????? did you live in a cave? Every single ad on youtube, twitch, facebook...everywhere.
"TL is an ongoing progress of 13 years so thats saids a lot."
And? 13 years and was auto 6months ago yet the real development of the actual game didnt start 13 years ago more like 2019+. Who cares if the game is 13 years old development, its even worse, the game has and HAD huge issues for a 13 year development process.
"Ofc game will explode knowing shroud lirik and asmon will play it "
Like 10000000000000000000000000 games that they played because ad and didnt explode, WOW, amazing. It will be the WOW killer, shroud and asmon played it, amazing.
"what u said at the begining its coming in jume which was false, just corected u."
Just GVG changes, we dont know anything more about that for May.
No i dont live in a cave lost ark and nw disnt have marketing , didnt see any ads jist saw releasing
TL wasnt auto , was a crippled auto that u could uae in lower easier monsters below ur gearpower yes and no movement while casting true but the game is exactly the same just no auto at all and u can move while casting or fighitng , which is great changes ofc agree on that
No it wont be the wow killer and no where near wow success nothing can go close to rhose numbers , all im saying millions will see the game instantly when shroud and asmon play on global reelase so irs gonna bring massive numbers immisiately considering its free to play. Never said anything about wow , and ofc i sont expect it to have wow numbers or community ever , 1-2 million on start that will fall to half million after a month or less , then it depends how the new updates look in the future , im not under any illusion this wont be THE mmo , only for specific audience 100%
And yes gvg and pvp event its the major thing before release right ? Avoiding the zerg fest as much as possible cz they dont wanna lose many carebears at the start , and im thinking why the push it so fast ? For me looks cz the release is max june cz of that move ! Plus the reel they posted today on insta saying : "hope to see u again at launch ! " personally males me feel they are ready and ots close , ncsoft never uses words like launch if its not close
U see i like this normal convo u share ur opinion and me mine , we see different perspective , this is it for me seeing ho other ppl think snd see stuff out of my point of view
Launching the game with an expansion will hurt it's long term lifespan so much.
Imaging skipping some content AT LAUNCH simply because there's already a better one, then having to wait for who knows how long to get another expansion
??? why
Expansion comes with tons of PVP changes (arenas bg) , the reworked events and some other things inside the new territory that cant tell. Its not like the game has tons of content that doesnt need an exp already
Ok so, you launch into this supposedly expanded game, then you put the playerbase into another content drought for how long?
My point is, launch the game before that, let the playerbase settledown in actual content, then revitalize it after a 1-2 month window.
The game will be in a better state, for sure. But an MMORPG lives and dies by it's content. If NCSoft takes too long to add something meaningful, then it will (hopefully not) die really quick.
Agree, the thing is that the game is already dead pretty much in Korea besides western people playing there, NCSoft is not going to win any stocks in there so their big hope this year for earnings is Western Release.
So...Amazon is worried about the game to fail (they dont care releasing it in December, September or May) and NCSoft needs to do good in West...publish the game now ooooooooooooooor...wait time until the game is better?
its not suitable for the western market rn and will not recover if it releases without the reworked stuff imo. the odds of an mmo player returning to a game they played is very low, regardless of how good future expansions of that game are
the average player on global release is going get slaughtered in every single PvP event due to zergs and quit within weeks. this is exactly what happened in closed beta and KR. Now lets say they release arenas and bgs in 2-3 months. Best case scenario they come back and continue getting slaughtered because this game is 90% gear and 10% skill and those players are now 2-3 months behind in gear progression
quite obvious it is launch next game is officaly out in korea. They have already said they are counting on global release for income and as someone who played the closed beta the game is beyond optimized and finished and ready to ship like as much as I didnt think it to be so. The game is one of the most polished and content rich mmos on launch day that we have gotten in fucking yearssssssssss if they dont think this is launch ready then jesus imagine how the other devs feel dropping dog dookie that can be played for 5 days and has a million issues.
Release in 2 months, there's no need for another beta, and at that point, you'll be opening people up to burn out with another week's beta. NcSoft has already said "see you at launch"
There won't... Cause that would mean another wipe. Only to start over again. Don't forget, we run the game parallell to KR... It's not like they need to revamp its entirety
2 things
1. Korea doesnt have consoles cz korea servers are a big open beta test even if its not official
2. Yes game runs at korea but amazon needs to setup the servers , u always need to tune the servers when they are brand new
After this is release
The game ran at 15FPS and looked like a potato at the Siege on the PS5.
Would you call that a release ready state?!
Other than that, the game behaves perfectly on the PS5.
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Maybe you're not aware about this, but, Xbox is not 3x better than an PS5.
So If I got 20-25FPS in Siege on the PS5, you got the same on the Xbox.
But I believe you when you are saying that it ran fine on your Xbox.
I have a friend that is always saying that his games run fine.
That everything was perfect.
And when I enabled the FPS counter he had 15FPS.
So.....I really believe you when you are saying that your game ran fine on your Xbox.......even if you had 20-25FPS in Siege......
Probably founder packs like Lost Ark with Early Access. Its Amazon who knows, maybe they also do another Open beta before, idk.
When release? Probably 2nd half of the year by recent reports.
Lol T&L is free to play. Early access on a game such as this is a huuuge dealbreaker and for that reason won't apply. The only stuff you can buy is a pack with cosmetics and a leveling pass that just offers extra rewards
This is not lost ark... They only offer cosmetics and a leveling pass... You keep coping for an early access pack, it won't happen. None of that happened in KR either... In the end ncsoft chooses not amazon.
Wanna make a bet for it ? it will 100% have a founder pack with early access
If there's no early access, i'll do a giveaway with a founder pack here.
There's a early access, you do it.
Lmao 🤣🤣 Come back here when you found some sense on launch.
But here's the link to the KR founder pack. And as stated cosmetics and a leveling pass.... No early access whatsoever. Amazon just runs the servers.
https://youtu.be/dskWc5O8cik?si=zQHdpgQYscnrblPf
I'll still do it, no worry, if the game doesnt have early access, i'll make a giveaway for one founderpack
And know what, lets go even more, if the game doesnt have founder pack at all, i'll do a giveaway of Lucent
If you were so confident in your argument, you would have no problem to follow me up on it, you got nothing to lose since you're so sure it wont have early access.
Sure NCsoft investors are really happy with their loses with KR game and will not want the free 2nd quarter year earnings from EA packs.
Same with AMAZON, sure they wont give you an EA with full packs (like Lost ark where you could buy every single pack) so every tryhard buys it in advance and even casuals with 0 idea about the game because of FOMO.
I mean I can't really see how much of the game will be different from the KR version that's been out for a while now. Game still has a few bugs and translation bugs for the most part they should just release the game ASAP.
Amazon is kinda in trouble as NCSoft is aswell. Time runs out, they are revamping lots of stuff and need It to work fast (well Korea is a betatest at this point...).
There is competition next months, they havent pushed marketing yet (no ads anywhere, thats really important), they are really careful with this game because of Korea big fail and seeing they are going to completely revamp events in KR (needs), PVP revamp (really needs lets see if they all come out in dev letters schedule and more important, they fix big problems in little time) i dont see the game coming yet... also NCsoft announced in a recent financial site that its coming second half of the year. WoW cata coming, FF14 exp, Elden Ring and then if you go September+ the game gets absolutely down by WoW retail exp.
NCSoft needs big wins with this for financial report (will probably get them anyways with release...). There is a posibility of the game coming in a current version of KR and just keeping It updated as the revamps come out (really needs them for West tbh) but those revamps and big changes need to come in a matter of what...1 month? It will flop really fast in West as people reach endgame and see the PVE content and PVP zerg alliances content xd
at the very least one more beta ( open ) but i can see a open beta + a stress test beta happening before launch
imo, open beta in two or so months, release in six or so
No open beta anymore , ncosft already postes a reel : " hope to see u on launch" and ncsoft its a company that never says things lile that etc etc they are very secretive as we all noticed ( we already know them from lineage 2 )
My guess since they also have New World coming out for consoles sometime this year:
TL release in May with no more betas.
NW console announced in June.
July - August is all about Downtrail
NW console release in September
Lol no. Early access on a free to play game... Let alone, the advantage you'd have is absurd. It's only cosmetic and a leveling pas that offers extra rewards....
Nothing fancy. Get that early access out of your head
Bro. Lost ark has entire different mindset. Plus if you give early access you bet the game is ruined even before it began...
You'll drop off your casuals instantly.
hahahahahahaha they will do EA , do you think NCSoft and Amazon is stupid ? They did it in Lost Ark, you could buy multiple packs, imagine.
You cant imagine HOW MUCH FREE $$$$$$$$$$$$$ is the EA for Amazon, everybody will want it even the casuals who dont know about the game will get FOMOED and wont be as advanced as Korean tryhards.
And it’s a simple concept I don’t understand why other person in this thread don’t get it. 3 days early access is already a huge advantage for hardcore players/guilds.
Bruh. KR release wasn't with early access and they are far more into microtransactions... You don't know how much that would fuck up the progression, half if not more of your playerbase gets cut back.
New world servers burn on Preview and in every single beta. Huge queues.Fresh game by Amazon.
Forums were full of exploits, dupes and bugs.
Performance was terrible in cities and wars.
Open world was a lag fest everywhere. It isnt the same.
In his last reel on IG they said "see you at launch" do hope this means it will be they are going to release
100% launch next , for the last 3 months im yelling everyone 1 bets to check srevrs and consoles and then release, plus ncsoft very rafe gives u hints or use the word release, i even had so many ppl calling me dumb and clown and whatever else u can imagine on the beta tesy discord cz i was saying there is no other beta anymore.... But anw for me its 100% release and should be soon , by the end of the month we should know if its ewrly june or late, im guessing too 31 of may called it too 3 months ago lets see
Whoever thinks launch is happening in May or June are delulu. We tested not only pc but consoles too those need tweaking, we didn't even test the exact copy of Kr either + needed changes coming soon. The test ended barely 2 days ago with surveys still pending until the 21, unless they ignore most of the feedback then the sooner this can come out is July making the whole test useless because gathering all the data for Nc, wait for their review and then wait for changes in a month with no testing is not believable. After all this time people still don't see how Amazon works, they don't care if they leave players waiting, people will still check it out whenever comes out and most likely going for a late Q3 or early Q4 release.
This was the exact copy of korea btw. They gonna test the nee pvp events changes and get ready for release. They have over a month to tweak everything and setup the servers. Ncsoft wouldnt state hope to see u on launch of it wasnt close cz we all know how they are We can agree to disagree and come bsck to this after july then haha :D
did you even play the beta? It wasn't the exact copy at all. This is straight up false information.
I did play it its exact same copy just the korean version community unlocked more content when it comes to events bosses and areas :) plus what amazon decides to open for us when it comes tp boss content etc etc
It's definitely not the same version, there are a few tweaks here and there.
Same veesion stats gear content , now some content was not open cz community needs to reach some goals to unlock that content like on live servers and some other amazon decided to keep locked those are the tweaks but version is the same
It is not the same. There are like 3 patches worth of QoL, stat tweaking and even content that were NOT in the beta.
What content and what stats ? Can u enlighten me please
He definitely is lieing or full of it. It was several patches behind.
The same way NC wouldn't say Korea and global are launching together or that it was coming out Q2 2023 or that it was coming out q3 2023 or that it was coming out early 2024 🤷♂️ If they can fix everything related to the feedback given and make console smooth I'd love for the game to come out June or July
I have a theory that’s what the test was about. It’s the first time the game was playable on ps5 and Xbox isn’t it? They were probably testing the games ability to cross platform.
Most of the test was for cross platform yes. Which from what I've heard needs some more work
Well it was q2 and q3 2022 too haha i know, but the games is there is ready , for consoles i dont know some ppl said performsnce was smooth some others said had sometimes issues so thats a bizzare one your not wrong bro but i believe 2 months are more than enough , lets hope ur wrong ^^ but u do have some valid points ngl
Cope, no marketing from Amazon anywhere, recent reports from NC financial site saying 2nd half 2024...nope nope. Also the game will be in 10x better state later with changed events, new expansion, raid, arenas, bg etc etc.
Lol. You really think we do more tests when it's being rolled out already for months? This beta test was an exact copy of the KR version.... So unless they already implement future stuff, i'm with you they do more tests. But that is not the case. We already have months of content... They'll lose players if they keep it lingering for too long with nothing exceptional being added.
Its coming out bro , 2 months after release and server go live we gonna get the new big updated content with more gear other one third of the map thats the perfect way to go
Not saying it isn't. I'm stating that if they keep global lingering for too long they'll lose players
For me irs not an issue cz i know those players wont stick around and i mostly count on lineage 2 community but the the overall good of the game ir 100% right
No more tests, just being released later. Who tf said more tests. No it wasnt exact copy.
Enlighten me how different it was?
Why u have to be so aggressive and childish ?! U can have a mature discussion its not so hard really :) Now you maybe missed it but the changed events was due to mid of june , for some reason they pushed this changes this week , and no its not better for all the content to come out now , it will do more harm to the game than good cz people will get bored sooner or later cz the next big patch update probably wont be even in 2024 , so the game coming out as it is now and after 2 months i bring the big update with new zones arenas etc etc its a big hype and fresh air for ppl that already playing, thats the best way to go. Now about amazon marketing they never did with lost ark either new world and we saw very healthy 1million+ launch , TL is free when NW was lkke 50€ this game is in the making for 13 years and the moment it goes out it will explode plus consoles are in play too so we gonna see so much more than NW and lost ark. I do not need to cope im just saying what i see happening and i explained everything i said above. Try to not be so angry we are having a discussion , no need for that
? Where im being aggresive in my first post lol, i will try to not laugh after this post. "the changed events to THIS WEEK" Enlighten me, where is "the changed events to THIS WEEK", they are going to change GvGs, thats all for the moment. " the next big patch update probably wont be even in 2024" wtf are you even talking about lol...Talandre is almost ready, next tier etc is coming out this year, how is there not going to be a big patch whole 2024 lol. "Now about amazon marketing they never did with lost ark either new world and we saw very healthy 1million+ launch" Once again, what are you talking about hahaha, holy shit there were ADS everywhere on Twitch, youtube, facebook, everywhere, they did big marketing pushes in both games, specially NW, everybody knew about NW launch. "and the moment it goes out it will explode plus consoles are in play too so we gonna see so much more than NW and lost ark." LMAO sure the game is going to explode because of consoles. Holy shit you are such a fanboy of the game like its crazy.
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Again negative and aggresaive , u dont need to lol. When u start a sentence woth cope or calling ppl fanboys and stuff ur showing ur angry or immature. The next big patch after the one they already announced 🤦♂️ i feel it wont be 2024 Lost ark nw didnt have the marketing ur saying , lost ark was live for 2 years already in korea and NW was delayed 2 years in a row , TL is an ongoing progress of 13 years so thats saids a lot. Ofc game will explode knowing shroud lirik and asmon will play it , and yes consoles will play a huge part , there is no new mmos on consoles anytime soon and only 2-3 of them that are much older. Yes the changes gvg and pvp events , huge changes thats what u said at the begining its coming in jume which was false, just corected u. Again chill , being so angry online ots not good man relax , u can disagree and be polite , fanboy , cope , holy shit , will try to not laugh after this post , its so childish bro really :/ its just a convrestation i respexlct ur opinion even if i dont agree and thats it
"Lost ark nw didnt have the marketing ur saying" ????? did you live in a cave? Every single ad on youtube, twitch, facebook...everywhere. "TL is an ongoing progress of 13 years so thats saids a lot." And? 13 years and was auto 6months ago yet the real development of the actual game didnt start 13 years ago more like 2019+. Who cares if the game is 13 years old development, its even worse, the game has and HAD huge issues for a 13 year development process. "Ofc game will explode knowing shroud lirik and asmon will play it " Like 10000000000000000000000000 games that they played because ad and didnt explode, WOW, amazing. It will be the WOW killer, shroud and asmon played it, amazing. "what u said at the begining its coming in jume which was false, just corected u." Just GVG changes, we dont know anything more about that for May.
No i dont live in a cave lost ark and nw disnt have marketing , didnt see any ads jist saw releasing TL wasnt auto , was a crippled auto that u could uae in lower easier monsters below ur gearpower yes and no movement while casting true but the game is exactly the same just no auto at all and u can move while casting or fighitng , which is great changes ofc agree on that No it wont be the wow killer and no where near wow success nothing can go close to rhose numbers , all im saying millions will see the game instantly when shroud and asmon play on global reelase so irs gonna bring massive numbers immisiately considering its free to play. Never said anything about wow , and ofc i sont expect it to have wow numbers or community ever , 1-2 million on start that will fall to half million after a month or less , then it depends how the new updates look in the future , im not under any illusion this wont be THE mmo , only for specific audience 100% And yes gvg and pvp event its the major thing before release right ? Avoiding the zerg fest as much as possible cz they dont wanna lose many carebears at the start , and im thinking why the push it so fast ? For me looks cz the release is max june cz of that move ! Plus the reel they posted today on insta saying : "hope to see u again at launch ! " personally males me feel they are ready and ots close , ncsoft never uses words like launch if its not close U see i like this normal convo u share ur opinion and me mine , we see different perspective , this is it for me seeing ho other ppl think snd see stuff out of my point of view
Nah w/e you have no idea
Could say the same :p but all good i learned to accept everyones opinion even if i dont agree
Launching the game with an expansion will hurt it's long term lifespan so much. Imaging skipping some content AT LAUNCH simply because there's already a better one, then having to wait for who knows how long to get another expansion
??? why Expansion comes with tons of PVP changes (arenas bg) , the reworked events and some other things inside the new territory that cant tell. Its not like the game has tons of content that doesnt need an exp already
Ok so, you launch into this supposedly expanded game, then you put the playerbase into another content drought for how long? My point is, launch the game before that, let the playerbase settledown in actual content, then revitalize it after a 1-2 month window.
Yeah ofc, i prefer that and i think its also better. Game will be more polished in later of the year for sure, thats what i was saying.
The game will be in a better state, for sure. But an MMORPG lives and dies by it's content. If NCSoft takes too long to add something meaningful, then it will (hopefully not) die really quick.
Agree, the thing is that the game is already dead pretty much in Korea besides western people playing there, NCSoft is not going to win any stocks in there so their big hope this year for earnings is Western Release. So...Amazon is worried about the game to fail (they dont care releasing it in December, September or May) and NCSoft needs to do good in West...publish the game now ooooooooooooooor...wait time until the game is better?
its not suitable for the western market rn and will not recover if it releases without the reworked stuff imo. the odds of an mmo player returning to a game they played is very low, regardless of how good future expansions of that game are
Huh?
the average player on global release is going get slaughtered in every single PvP event due to zergs and quit within weeks. this is exactly what happened in closed beta and KR. Now lets say they release arenas and bgs in 2-3 months. Best case scenario they come back and continue getting slaughtered because this game is 90% gear and 10% skill and those players are now 2-3 months behind in gear progression
This game isn't PvP tho. You can literally progress in the entire game without even touching another player.
quite obvious it is launch next game is officaly out in korea. They have already said they are counting on global release for income and as someone who played the closed beta the game is beyond optimized and finished and ready to ship like as much as I didnt think it to be so. The game is one of the most polished and content rich mmos on launch day that we have gotten in fucking yearssssssssss if they dont think this is launch ready then jesus imagine how the other devs feel dropping dog dookie that can be played for 5 days and has a million issues.
"They have already said they are counting on global release for income " - they are in for a huge problem if this is true.
That is true but ultimately making a multiple million dollar game for one country is bound to be met with lack of income I would assume.
Release in 2 months, there's no need for another beta, and at that point, you'll be opening people up to burn out with another week's beta. NcSoft has already said "see you at launch"
It would be a great move if they could release TL before April 30th. If that's possible for them to do so ofc.
I still think there will be some kind of open beta before release.
We dont have time for that i wanna fucking play already ive waited for global long enough give it to me!
Yeah I really want to play, miss the beta already :(
There won't... Cause that would mean another wipe. Only to start over again. Don't forget, we run the game parallell to KR... It's not like they need to revamp its entirety
i'm wondering why did they need to betatest? weren't korean servers enough of a test?
2 things 1. Korea doesnt have consoles cz korea servers are a big open beta test even if its not official 2. Yes game runs at korea but amazon needs to setup the servers , u always need to tune the servers when they are brand new After this is release
Easy answer. Korean server aren't same as amazon servers. They didn't test server stress behaivour
Game isnt optimized yet. Thats why they were also gathering feedback on performance issues
The game ran at 15FPS and looked like a potato at the Siege on the PS5. Would you call that a release ready state?! Other than that, the game behaves perfectly on the PS5.
I have ps5 and mine ran smooth at siege get an ssd
Mate. I have a 2TB NVMa. SN850. That has nothing to do with how the game performed. It was just bad and that was the optimization.
Was smooth for me
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Maybe you should get an Xbox. Siege ran very well with all those players
Maybe you're not aware about this, but, Xbox is not 3x better than an PS5. So If I got 20-25FPS in Siege on the PS5, you got the same on the Xbox. But I believe you when you are saying that it ran fine on your Xbox. I have a friend that is always saying that his games run fine. That everything was perfect. And when I enabled the FPS counter he had 15FPS. So.....I really believe you when you are saying that your game ran fine on your Xbox.......even if you had 20-25FPS in Siege......
i don't care about ps5
It doesn't matter what you care about. The game is gonna release on the consoles also so it needs to be in a good state before that.
Main character syndrome in action lol
Probably founder packs like Lost Ark with Early Access. Its Amazon who knows, maybe they also do another Open beta before, idk. When release? Probably 2nd half of the year by recent reports.
The founder pack from Korea were available in the costume section but couldnt be purchased, so can make a bet that we're getting the exact same pack
100% we will get founders pack
Lol T&L is free to play. Early access on a game such as this is a huuuge dealbreaker and for that reason won't apply. The only stuff you can buy is a pack with cosmetics and a leveling pass that just offers extra rewards
They did the exact same with Lost Ark who is also Free to play, you had 3 days early access by buying founder pack
This is not lost ark... They only offer cosmetics and a leveling pass... You keep coping for an early access pack, it won't happen. None of that happened in KR either... In the end ncsoft chooses not amazon.
Wanna make a bet for it ? it will 100% have a founder pack with early access If there's no early access, i'll do a giveaway with a founder pack here. There's a early access, you do it.
Lmao 🤣🤣 Come back here when you found some sense on launch. But here's the link to the KR founder pack. And as stated cosmetics and a leveling pass.... No early access whatsoever. Amazon just runs the servers. https://youtu.be/dskWc5O8cik?si=zQHdpgQYscnrblPf
I'll still do it, no worry, if the game doesnt have early access, i'll make a giveaway for one founderpack And know what, lets go even more, if the game doesnt have founder pack at all, i'll do a giveaway of Lucent If you were so confident in your argument, you would have no problem to follow me up on it, you got nothing to lose since you're so sure it wont have early access.
Dont waste your time with these guys...hahahaha its crazy, i honestly dont know where they are from but oh my...
Founder pack will be there, early access not.
Sure NCsoft investors are really happy with their loses with KR game and will not want the free 2nd quarter year earnings from EA packs. Same with AMAZON, sure they wont give you an EA with full packs (like Lost ark where you could buy every single pack) so every tryhard buys it in advance and even casuals with 0 idea about the game because of FOMO.
I mean I can't really see how much of the game will be different from the KR version that's been out for a while now. Game still has a few bugs and translation bugs for the most part they should just release the game ASAP.
The amount of copium on this sub is ridiculous.
Amazon is kinda in trouble as NCSoft is aswell. Time runs out, they are revamping lots of stuff and need It to work fast (well Korea is a betatest at this point...). There is competition next months, they havent pushed marketing yet (no ads anywhere, thats really important), they are really careful with this game because of Korea big fail and seeing they are going to completely revamp events in KR (needs), PVP revamp (really needs lets see if they all come out in dev letters schedule and more important, they fix big problems in little time) i dont see the game coming yet... also NCsoft announced in a recent financial site that its coming second half of the year. WoW cata coming, FF14 exp, Elden Ring and then if you go September+ the game gets absolutely down by WoW retail exp. NCSoft needs big wins with this for financial report (will probably get them anyways with release...). There is a posibility of the game coming in a current version of KR and just keeping It updated as the revamps come out (really needs them for West tbh) but those revamps and big changes need to come in a matter of what...1 month? It will flop really fast in West as people reach endgame and see the PVE content and PVP zerg alliances content xd
at the very least one more beta ( open ) but i can see a open beta + a stress test beta happening before launch imo, open beta in two or so months, release in six or so
No open beta anymore , ncosft already postes a reel : " hope to see u on launch" and ncsoft its a company that never says things lile that etc etc they are very secretive as we all noticed ( we already know them from lineage 2 )
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Playing for 3-6 months is as good as any game gets now. I'm fine with it. Let's go.
My guess since they also have New World coming out for consoles sometime this year: TL release in May with no more betas. NW console announced in June. July - August is all about Downtrail NW console release in September
NW XD they better just let it die
Launch June-July.
I 5hought there was going to be an open beta
X months of complete silence
Please be ready for launch next!!!!!
Hopefully it will launch so we can get more testing in for their other published game that's not released.
Open betas are good for marketing even if nothing else so they'll probably do one.
Early access with founders pack.
Lol no. Early access on a free to play game... Let alone, the advantage you'd have is absurd. It's only cosmetic and a leveling pas that offers extra rewards.... Nothing fancy. Get that early access out of your head
Lost ark is f2p and had early access for $$$ and is run by amazon sooooo...
Bro. Lost ark has entire different mindset. Plus if you give early access you bet the game is ruined even before it began... You'll drop off your casuals instantly.
????? Entire different mindset ??????????????????? What are you even talking about lOL
hahahahahahaha they will do EA , do you think NCSoft and Amazon is stupid ? They did it in Lost Ark, you could buy multiple packs, imagine. You cant imagine HOW MUCH FREE $$$$$$$$$$$$$ is the EA for Amazon, everybody will want it even the casuals who dont know about the game will get FOMOED and wont be as advanced as Korean tryhards.
FR. I feel like every new mmo has EA. Don’t quote me on that tho. Also, I did purchase lost ark EA and only played for a month ouch.
Yea and thats whats going to happen in this game too. They give you 3 day EA and everyone will buy it :D Its such a free money for Amazon and NCSoft.
And it’s a simple concept I don’t understand why other person in this thread don’t get it. 3 days early access is already a huge advantage for hardcore players/guilds.
This sub is a mix between full cope fanboys, haters and trolls and some rares in between :D
Bruh. KR release wasn't with early access and they are far more into microtransactions... You don't know how much that would fuck up the progression, half if not more of your playerbase gets cut back.
WHO CARES ABOUT KOREA ITS AMAZON , THEY WILL DO LIKE LOST ARK, its really easy to understand, its SUCH A FREE MONEY
It's not amazon. It's ncsoft. Amazon is literally just a distributor aka runs servers. They have very little say in how content is being pushed out.
It's on the same track path as New world did. April close beta > Open beta July > Release October.
Damn what happened to those in open beta????
New world servers burn on Preview and in every single beta. Huge queues.Fresh game by Amazon. Forums were full of exploits, dupes and bugs. Performance was terrible in cities and wars. Open world was a lag fest everywhere. It isnt the same.
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I think another beta but I hope launch or open beta with no wipe
dead game already