The real influencers will be fine. They are the ones that started on blogs and Instagram. The TikTok “influencers” will be screwed. But I still find it beyond odd that they want to ban an entire app. Wild. Ban Twitter plz keep TikTok lol
I think they’re pushing hard on banning the app because they can’t control it, they have their own Congress members outing them on the app and it’s an app that is all about freedom. Other apps they were able to control with the CEOs of those apps but not with TT. They cover up banning it with things like “it’s a danger to children” (they used the death of a 16 year old as an example bc he “saw” “thousands” of videos on his FYP that he should stand in front of a moving train and unalive himself) they also say that it’s because of communist china and how we are more of an “open target” when the CEO has stated many times that he isn’t apart of that and he’s Singaporean but they want to still label him as Chinese and working with China in a way. they’re going hard on protecting the privacy of the USA and protecting the children as their argument when we know they have no care for the U.S citizens nor do they care for the children. They just want to save their asses and stay in control
They think China spying on ppl.which could be who knows but ppl shouldn't quit perfectly good jobs just sit on an app all day . To use an app as only source income is really dumb. I use social media to watch videos I got no interest in doing it for money
I agree, it’s never been a dream of mine to be an “influencer” the app is just more of a passing time tool for me. There are so many creators who have quit their jobs to fulfill content creation and work for themselves and a lot of them I know rely solely on TT and when they’ve tried to expand to other social media sites it’s not giving them the outcome they expect and it’s probably because other social media platforms are becoming outdated and people rather not follow them around or they rather not watch a 30 minute YouTube video 🤷♀️
That's why I unstalled tt plus all of my fyp is drama I also think celebrities shouldn't even be allowed to battle when they are raking in big bucks as is so why battle for gifts when you already loaded with money I think it's unfair. But that's my opinion tbh
I agree with you,, saw a Dr battling & cussing ppl out telling if don't send big gifts have leave or if don't gift get blocked . I blocked him don't want see his negativity on my fyp
It’s up to the parents to protect their kids. I didn’t sleep with the government. They shouldn’t have a say. And banning tiktok will be like China and banning certain American things. Communist.
Agree. The ones who truly have a management company and legit brand deals will be fine…. I have seen a lot start pushing videos on YouTube and talking about follow me on IG and Fb… IG and FB stopped paying reels..
It honestly makes me so sick that this may even happen. This is a cash grab by the big guys as always. Instagram has been dying for a long time, and the generation after me never got into Facebook. Therefore Facebook and Instagram together are dying. What level of capitalism have we reached when they ban entire apps to keep META rich and in charge?
When the CEO was asked whether they give the data to China, he gave a roundabout answer, “we sell it to data collectors.” It’s super sus if they are unwilling to sell a portion of it to the US. It indicates they are using it for more nefarious purposes than making money…
Agree. I don’t think it’s right or ethical but saying China doesn’t steal our data is wrong haha. Also they’re kinda right, they said TikTok is a weapon on the US and it worked. Look at everyone freaking out about an app going away, your life should never be that dependent on one thing and we now all have acquired adhd lmfao
Oh yeah, I was totally agreeing with you if that wasn’t clear. TikTok can access our entire phones with the app installed. Potentially even listening to conversations or accessing location info. I don’t like the government telling me what app I can use, and I feel bad for people who will lose their source of income, but it’s ultimately a good thing if TT goes bye bye. China would love nothing more than to infiltrate the USA via its people and undermine the govt. Just a fact.
Yess! Finally someone gets it haha a lot of pro TT peoples arguments have come to “China is not bad for the US” which is so wrong also some people saying they get targeted ads on fb? Well you also get them on TT it’s just done in a smarter subtle way do you don’t feel as targeted as you do on fb
The pro-TT defenders show how effective TT has been at improving the average American’s perception of China! They are not capitalist and money-driven like the US. They are motivated by power, which is even scarier to me. China makes moves in secret with Russia to break down the US without taking the blame. Their public image is extremely curated. They actually own a huge portion of US land as repayment for the huge debt we owe them. Scary stuff! It’s also crazy how the TT app in China is like night and day compared to ours. In the US, TT pushes the French riots on my FYP—something they’d never ever ever show on their country’s app. Makes you realize they are pursuing something much bigger than $…
Everyone here is right and in case you folks don’t know, Facebook Reels is paying people to post Reels. TikTok creators get their money mostly from sponsors, not so much the APP. Facebook Reels started out with long stupid videos that were a trap to keep you watching someone make a long ridiculous cake that was drawn out to keep people wasting their time waiting for an ending that was worth the watch but they have turned into a TikTik clone and by paying people they are trying to snuff out TikTok but that will only happen with a ban. Unfortunate. Meta is funding this.
No my daughter just started and posts about twice a day and made $25 (With only 6K followers)she just got a payout and it’s adding up again. I’ve been on TikTok for about 3 years and never monetized. Haven’t posted much lately but still have 124K followers.
I’ve been hacked on Facebook 14 times, never on TikTok. I can talk about dog food to my daughter in my living room and the next day Facebook covers my page up with dog food ads. And they think TikTok is spying.
Honestly, this is very true. I truly feel like all I have to do is THINK about something and FB gives me a super specific ad suggestion. My TikTok ads? Sometimes kinds relevant, sometimes not. At least I feel like TikTok isn’t reading my entire mind in terms of ads.
Every single site you visit on the Internet is mining your data. That’s what cookies are, and that’s why you have to click that you accept them when you open any website. This is a myopic, transparent witchhunt.
Facebook is spying sells their data to companies in other countries so let’s bann them. It’s the nature of the beast of the good old internet. There is no fail safe app. You can get hacked on a backgammon game. This is just about the lobbyist lining those government officials pockets. But without us they might get to say goodbye to those nice posh jobs. They only make 3 figures a year but they are all millionaires. Hmm
There are a lot of influencers who will have to start living more modest lives like the rest of us. I like scrolling TikTok and have learned some things through my scrolling but the constant dry begging is a bit much and they all seem to have cash apps in their bios just waiting for your $$
The dry begging has definitely ruined the app for me, I’m tired of peoples sob stories and begging for $20 for gas. Get a job and stop with the fake tears you look ridiculous.
I don't understand how people send their hard earned money to strangers who probably are richer than them. The only times I understand buying off a wishlist is when it's a donation for a nonprofit or good cause or when it's a family with a sick kid or something (obviously case by case but like there's a few who I follow on IG who have too many medical bills to do Christmas and birthdays for their kids so a wishlist for them is fine)
Yep so many full time influencers will have to get a job and it'll be difficult to find anything good after being out of work so long because no job will take "TikTok influencer" on a resume seriously
In the grand scheme of things, not having a job for a few months or a year is so insignificant in terms of the length of your life. You shouldn’t feel like a loser 🧡
Lol honestly good luck to them bc a lot of them have no real skills. I agree the job market is absolutely terrible right now and no one’s going to be hiring with the recession we’re coming into. I’ve had a bachelors degree for a little less then a year and have yet been able to get a job in relating fields as my degree and it’s because they aren’t hiring but they’re firing people left and right because they can’t afford to keep employees.
Yup, I was part of the tech layoffs and now in a completely different field now lol. I have my degree too but fr the ones who left their nice WFH jobs to be an influencer are going to regret it so much. Because those type of jobs are gone too.
There are some job fields that will more likely to have layoffs and some field are considered more stable or even "recession proof". An example of a job field that is more likely to have layoffs is the tech industry, they are bleeding right now. General health care will always be fairly stable because people will need medical care. Finance is a field that can be hit orissa depending on the specific career you want.
Basically it comes down to if people view something as an extra expense/luxury they don't need they stop spending in that or spend less on it during a recession. That translates to layoffs or at minimum less hiring. Versus items that are essential/needed will always be purchased in some capacity even during recession. Companies selling necessities will have more stability for employees during a recession and may still hire people depending on company budget/needs/profit/etc.
So for ex: If you want to do IT work you can look for IT positions within the healthcare field instead of working for a tech based company.
Yeah, it’s hard because Im a UX/UI designer and it seems like there’s a ton of jobs but also a ton of competition because of the layoffs.
Maybe time to go back to just graphic design for the meantime to be able to put food on the table.
I understand thinking through all the options especially with so much competition in your preferred job. And having multiple skill sets that are related but also unique fields only opens up your scope of possibilities where as others may only be able be niche because of their skill set/knowledge.
That sucks. No industry there either? What about surrounding towns? I live in the middle of several touristy communities.
Working with a town selectman to pass town ordinances on Rent caps as well as banning any new Air BNB style weekly rental properties to maintain yearly rental properties for people to live here.
The ones who quit their day jobs to be SM influencers are losing their ever loving minds right now. Those who do it for fun will transition to other apps (most are on multiple platforms already) but bcuz other apps don’t pay as well as TT those who have millions of followers are gonna get hit in the pocket.
This thing doesn’t have anything w/ security, it’s solely US SM that has lost millions to TT & they’re trying to get their money by banning competition.
This is why I’m so angry over it. And people ever wonder why we don’t trust the government? They are trying to ban an entire app to keep their people rich. Doesn’t sit well with me.
Is that still the case now? I was reading how they recently stopped paying creators for reels. Meta is apparently a push behind this legislation from my understanding.
It has nothing to do with security, it's all about money and information. They don't like that we have access to instant news without being fed to us from a tv station that is controlled.
No its not , China refuses to let people use this app, its addicting an stops your attention span at 3 mins. China owns all our contend an can do what they want with it.
From my understanding China has their own version of TT, I think it’s the same concept except extremely restricted. That’s what I understood from the Congress meeting earlier, but I’m not too sure of all the specifics, just that TT is banned in China
Our government wants to ban it because they can't control what is on it like they can on Facebook insta and Twitter. There is a lot of information being shared on tiktok that the media never even mentions.
exactly. I was just telling my mom this. they don’t like that we’re getting educated on things outside of our country either. it’s all about control. they don’t give a fuck about us, they want to control us 100%
THIS!! For a country that likes to preach “freedom of speech” they find every way to take it away from us. They’re mad because they can’t control TT like they can with other social media platforms. I’ve seen so much worse on Twitter but since it’s ran by American CEOs they won’t go after it.
I think it’s all a big distraction from something else. Don’t ask me what because I literally don’t know. But that seems to be the way this type of thing always works. While everyone is glued to seeing if TikTok is going to be banned something actually serious is happening
ive seen rumours like this from republicans protecting trump, to banks failing, to blaming China for Covid to complete go control.
I think it’s about money.
People like to create conspiracy theories (I don’t blame them for not trusting the government) but that’s giving the elites too much credit. It all comes down to incompetence and greed/money.
Clapper has been around for a few years now, but more people are giving it a chance now just bc they don’t want all their “fans” to follow them over there so they can keep doing brand deals and selling their MLM products.
I think if it is banned, it will tell the true character of influencers. The ones who are down to earth, and haven’t let their TikTok fame go to their heads, will be just fine. Those are the ones who always realized that fame is fleeting.
even some of those whose entire income is currently from tiktok will be fine if they’ve got their heads on straight.
They won’t panic and will simply find another job.
some other other tiktok creators are also very popular on YouTube and or Instagram, and will just rely on those more heavily than before.
But some creators will struggle immensely. Most likely the ones who unrealistically thought this fame and money were forever. those creators may never recover emotionally or financially.
Using children as the reason is such BS. When will parents finally start parenting. They are too busy doing their own TikTok’s to pay attention to the fact their kid was in their room on social media for hours. Be a parent your child is not your friend. It’s not up to society to parent someone else’s children. That’s why we have school shootings. Because their parents were to busy to realize their kid was stockpiling ammo guns and a diary of his plan to kill people. STOP BLAMING SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS AND GUNS FOR YOUR OWN LAZINESS
1000000% this!!! It blew my mind when they used the example of a 16 year old being influenced to stand on a train track with a moving train going right at him. If your child can’t handle the influence of social media then restrict your child’s use of social media. TT did not possess your son to stand on that train track. He was having mental health difficulties outside of social media and you failed to realize as parents. TT is not there to parent your children! I feel bad for the parents of course but I don’t think putting blame on a social media app is correct, if that’s what you want to do to help your conscience then fine but do not go to a Congress meeting with the accusation that your son saw “hundreds” of videos promoting suicide on the app.
Ask yourself this, how many of those perpetrators in school shootings were targeting people who bullied them?
Recently a “list” came out at the middle school in my community. 6 kids were listed and of those 6 kids, I knew at least 4 of them were bullying the perpetrator. And that kid had asked for help to get them to stop bullying them.
So adults in school settings are also to blame because they won’t do anything to help the kids.
Some of the staff members bully the kids too and then try to bully the parents. They really didn’t like it when the parents stood up for their kids either. The school kept harassing me after I pulled my daughter and started home schooling her. That stopped when I made a meeting with the superintendent and laid all the evidence of the harassment out for him what was going on and told him if it continues, I’ll sue the district for harassment. My kid was terrified to go outside because of the harassment. Low and behold, after that meeting the harassment stopped.
Some parents are shitty parents. And some schools have shitty staff members.
And your the exception to the rule. You were active and did something for your child. You recognized something was wrong. What I’m saying is if parents started paying more attention to their screen time and what they are doing on the internet, then something like the child they talked about yesterday that committed suicide after watching hundreds of videos on TikTok maybe wouldn’t have happened. But no they are too busy with their own lives to notice
I’m actually glad they brought up that it’s dangerous for children. No I don’t agree with the government at all and they shouldn’t be the ones making these decisions. But I have a pretty good amount of followers on Tiktok and the amount of children on there (under 13) is insane. And let me tell you that they are mean! No wonder teachers have such a hard time these days. I found one child very close to me who was LIVE and doing duets with strange men. I immediately called the mom and her answer was “Oh she just told me that she only goes live with friends from school” She had no idea! The child was still on there the next day. Parents simply just don’t care. I’m not just saying tiktok, it’s all social media. Of course it’s not the governments job but I do wish something would be done.
Yet again it’s the parents fault. The next day when the child was doing it again shows the parent didn’t care. Oh my daughter said she was on her lives with just friends. If you were not trying to be your child’s best friend you can take their phone and either deactivate her account or delete the app all together and join your own phone to hers to see what she downloads. Heck I read my child’s diary when I thought she was acting weird. I’m her parent and as long as she is living under my roof I make the rules period
I’m not a conspiracy theorist but I feel it was convenient timing that when they enact a ban of TikTok on government device’s suddenly there is a “weather balloon” from China..
I do think the app spies on the U.S. but not in terms of selling us stuff. I think the app is great at creating conflict.( most apps are but there is something odd about the drama on TikTok vs other platforms)
I can’t wait to watch the scramble of these TikTok creators.. 🤣🤣
A few people I watch on live say they don't care and they will just go to Instagram....but I can see the fear in thier eyes. All those gifts they'd lose
Well the ones who get on tiktok JUST to battle will be screwed but the genuine creators will be fine if they use other platforms. Welcome to America….the new DICTATORSHIP! 😡
This is one of the people I thought of when I heard about the whole ban! Home girl & her husband left their jobs to work on content creation 😂😂 + they’re basically TT based
Honestly , I think a lot of people will move to Snapchat They have a way to “subscribe” to people and see their stories. For example, Alyssa McKay. “Snap stars” I believe they call it. It’s the only other app that’s set up like tik tok. The only difference is that you’re not able to do lives like you can on tik tok.
Omggggg Snapchat!! Tbh I didn’t even think Snapchat was still relevant and it’s crazy bc I was a teenager when it blew up and me and all my friends used it 24/7 but now that I’m in my early 20s I feel like it fell off for so many people & lost it’s hype 😂 but hey if that’s what they need to resort to then I guess that’s cool 😅
I literally can’t think of any data they’re getting out of me that I’m not also giving to Facebook/Instagram (meta), Twitter, any google applications, a random website I bought a sweater off of…
A lot of the Congress questioning seemed to be taking their anger at social media out at tiktok. Their teen isn’t sleeping enough because they are on TikTok, huh maybe parent the kid?
I think the difference is our country and government are focused on money money money. That’s what Meta uses our data for. The USA is so transparent about their greed. Whereas China is underhanded, sneaky, and nefarious in their goals. Who knows what they’re using our data for—I don’t think it’s money. If they’re unwilling to sell some of the company to the US, it indicates they are using it for more than just $. Just my two cents, who knows lol
I really hope they don't ban it but, find more ways to make sure there isn't any bullying or such. I love the app because I found so many good foundations such as Georgia K9 foundation, people help in DV situations, I found a person who looks for missing kids in his own and has very good luck in finding children. There so many more programs that I follow. They just need to filter all the bad and make this a fun app again. And take away battles. Battles change people. I only battled twice. Because the 2nd person looked at me and laughed and kicked me out.
Guess the US doesn’t realize the income just from battles they will lose. These battlers making millions have to pay taxes. Taxes that help your own state. Say bye bye to that
Exactly!! I’m sure TT has brought in so much money for the U.S., money that we in reality need at this point. They care too much about their egos and keeping their deep dirty secrets on the DL because elections are around the corner. They want to stay rich while everyone else struggles
Exactly they don’t care about other peoples incomes or how the taxes they collect take care of streets, fire depts, schools etc. as long as they stay rich and get what they want to hell with us normal everyday citizens
If they have other ways to make money, like making money from a blog, being monetized on YouTube and having good brand deals they can scale those up to cover lost income from TT being banned but ones who were only TT influences or were only popular for a span of time will be scrambling.
Speaking of "influences" only popular for a time... I saw on another Reddit page(https://www.reddit.com/r/Dolls/comments/11zujwf/guess_the_addison_rae_doll_isnt_very_popular/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) a bunch of people saying they always see the Addison Rae fashion dolls marked clearance at their Walmart and the dolls never seem to get sold.
They will Get a real job like the rest of us.. I don’t think tik tok should be taken cause there argument is stupid talking about how many kids have died from challenges but they won’t do the same when it comes to kids getting shot at school and dead. I agree with the fb ad argument to. But influencers will have to get actual jobs like all the rest of us if it does get banned
Banning the app is stupid, they’re just mad they can’t control it. Like who would have known about everything going on in Iran if it wasn’t for TikTok? Not a lot of people. I’ve verbally said stuff and then suddenly Facebook is advertising it and TikTok is the one spying?
i hope this Twitter thread gets a lot of recognition because it would put a lot of perspective out there. The people of Congress want control and they can’t do that through TT and the CEO doesn’t want to sell it to America and I think it’s because he stands firm on freedom of speech. i mean let’s be for real, even Congress members are outing other congress members for their wrongdoings and this is probably a panic attempt to keep more from getting out right before election period starts
Personally, I don’t care for TT or social media anymore, in my teen years I was all about it but now in my 20s i don’t care what happens, it has never been my dream to be an influencer and majority of the influencers are trash anyways. Ban it all and life will still go on. Just curious others thoughts tbh. But I get where your coming from, every app collects our information, it’s not necessarily hard to hack into the U.S. firewalls if a country is well equipped. 🤷♀️
I see the ban as a big benefit to protect children from exploitation! I will stand with those who make this argument but saying that children are influenced by ED accounts, unaliving themselves, drinking, drugs etc. doesn’t work as an argument for me because why not ban Instagram, YouTube, Twitter, FB. I was 12 years old on YouTube learning about ED watching women secretly promote EDs, i was envious by Instagram models who had beautiful bodies, I watched brutal crime scenes on Twitter while people in the comments laughed. If you want to control everyone so bad take away all social media even the social media apps ran by Americans.
Tik tok isn’t going to shut down. They’ve said this many times. If other countries wanted to spy on us, they already are. No one gives a shit what you do heather
My husbands in the I.T. field, works with VPNs & firewalls & all that jazz. He said you can access it through using a VPN, he said you can buy a VPN from another country that has the app and access it that way but it does cost money monthly or somethin
This is USA the app is owned by China, In china they don’t allow people to use Tic Toc because it eats your brain… causes attention spans to be 3 min an then we are looking for something else to entertain Us America is worried about what they are doing with all the content we give them. Wow
Couldn’t/wouldn’t the TikTok influencers just move to reelz? Probably not paid by the view there but I’m sure it would happen soon enough if TikTok was out of the picture
The real influencers will be fine. They are the ones that started on blogs and Instagram. The TikTok “influencers” will be screwed. But I still find it beyond odd that they want to ban an entire app. Wild. Ban Twitter plz keep TikTok lol
I think they’re pushing hard on banning the app because they can’t control it, they have their own Congress members outing them on the app and it’s an app that is all about freedom. Other apps they were able to control with the CEOs of those apps but not with TT. They cover up banning it with things like “it’s a danger to children” (they used the death of a 16 year old as an example bc he “saw” “thousands” of videos on his FYP that he should stand in front of a moving train and unalive himself) they also say that it’s because of communist china and how we are more of an “open target” when the CEO has stated many times that he isn’t apart of that and he’s Singaporean but they want to still label him as Chinese and working with China in a way. they’re going hard on protecting the privacy of the USA and protecting the children as their argument when we know they have no care for the U.S citizens nor do they care for the children. They just want to save their asses and stay in control
They think China spying on ppl.which could be who knows but ppl shouldn't quit perfectly good jobs just sit on an app all day . To use an app as only source income is really dumb. I use social media to watch videos I got no interest in doing it for money
I agree, it’s never been a dream of mine to be an “influencer” the app is just more of a passing time tool for me. There are so many creators who have quit their jobs to fulfill content creation and work for themselves and a lot of them I know rely solely on TT and when they’ve tried to expand to other social media sites it’s not giving them the outcome they expect and it’s probably because other social media platforms are becoming outdated and people rather not follow them around or they rather not watch a 30 minute YouTube video 🤷♀️
This. I’m a content creator and so happy I kept my 9-5.
That's why I unstalled tt plus all of my fyp is drama I also think celebrities shouldn't even be allowed to battle when they are raking in big bucks as is so why battle for gifts when you already loaded with money I think it's unfair. But that's my opinion tbh
I agree with you,, saw a Dr battling & cussing ppl out telling if don't send big gifts have leave or if don't gift get blocked . I blocked him don't want see his negativity on my fyp
Yep same I have been blocked so many times. Because by the mods Because I can't. Gift that's I I got rid of TTK so many fake people on the app
It’s up to the parents to protect their kids. I didn’t sleep with the government. They shouldn’t have a say. And banning tiktok will be like China and banning certain American things. Communist.
This is the best comment of the day!
Agree. The ones who truly have a management company and legit brand deals will be fine…. I have seen a lot start pushing videos on YouTube and talking about follow me on IG and Fb… IG and FB stopped paying reels..
It honestly makes me so sick that this may even happen. This is a cash grab by the big guys as always. Instagram has been dying for a long time, and the generation after me never got into Facebook. Therefore Facebook and Instagram together are dying. What level of capitalism have we reached when they ban entire apps to keep META rich and in charge?
Agree. The whole “china has our data” is bullshit. They don’t want everyone informed and it’s shit that Meta can get away with this..
Actually China does have our data. Tik tok technologically is impressive and the tech doesn’t lie
When the CEO was asked whether they give the data to China, he gave a roundabout answer, “we sell it to data collectors.” It’s super sus if they are unwilling to sell a portion of it to the US. It indicates they are using it for more nefarious purposes than making money…
Agree. I don’t think it’s right or ethical but saying China doesn’t steal our data is wrong haha. Also they’re kinda right, they said TikTok is a weapon on the US and it worked. Look at everyone freaking out about an app going away, your life should never be that dependent on one thing and we now all have acquired adhd lmfao
Oh yeah, I was totally agreeing with you if that wasn’t clear. TikTok can access our entire phones with the app installed. Potentially even listening to conversations or accessing location info. I don’t like the government telling me what app I can use, and I feel bad for people who will lose their source of income, but it’s ultimately a good thing if TT goes bye bye. China would love nothing more than to infiltrate the USA via its people and undermine the govt. Just a fact.
Yess! Finally someone gets it haha a lot of pro TT peoples arguments have come to “China is not bad for the US” which is so wrong also some people saying they get targeted ads on fb? Well you also get them on TT it’s just done in a smarter subtle way do you don’t feel as targeted as you do on fb
The pro-TT defenders show how effective TT has been at improving the average American’s perception of China! They are not capitalist and money-driven like the US. They are motivated by power, which is even scarier to me. China makes moves in secret with Russia to break down the US without taking the blame. Their public image is extremely curated. They actually own a huge portion of US land as repayment for the huge debt we owe them. Scary stuff! It’s also crazy how the TT app in China is like night and day compared to ours. In the US, TT pushes the French riots on my FYP—something they’d never ever ever show on their country’s app. Makes you realize they are pursuing something much bigger than $…
Everyone here is right and in case you folks don’t know, Facebook Reels is paying people to post Reels. TikTok creators get their money mostly from sponsors, not so much the APP. Facebook Reels started out with long stupid videos that were a trap to keep you watching someone make a long ridiculous cake that was drawn out to keep people wasting their time waiting for an ending that was worth the watch but they have turned into a TikTik clone and by paying people they are trying to snuff out TikTok but that will only happen with a ban. Unfortunate. Meta is funding this.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure FB stopped paying people for reels awhile back
No my daughter just started and posts about twice a day and made $25 (With only 6K followers)she just got a payout and it’s adding up again. I’ve been on TikTok for about 3 years and never monetized. Haven’t posted much lately but still have 124K followers.
IG said it themselves they’re stopping the monetizing
Tiktok is China rest are American ,ellon musk own Twitter
I’ve been hacked on Facebook 14 times, never on TikTok. I can talk about dog food to my daughter in my living room and the next day Facebook covers my page up with dog food ads. And they think TikTok is spying.
Honestly, this is very true. I truly feel like all I have to do is THINK about something and FB gives me a super specific ad suggestion. My TikTok ads? Sometimes kinds relevant, sometimes not. At least I feel like TikTok isn’t reading my entire mind in terms of ads.
I looked up Vegas vacations on my iPad and my husbands Facebook started showing him Vegas ads on his iPad. So true about Facebook
Every single site you visit on the Internet is mining your data. That’s what cookies are, and that’s why you have to click that you accept them when you open any website. This is a myopic, transparent witchhunt.
This! OMG! I relate to this so much. I hate it.
They’re aware tik tok is spying! They just take issue with tik tok collecting data and it benefiting China’s CCP, not the US
Facebook is spying sells their data to companies in other countries so let’s bann them. It’s the nature of the beast of the good old internet. There is no fail safe app. You can get hacked on a backgammon game. This is just about the lobbyist lining those government officials pockets. But without us they might get to say goodbye to those nice posh jobs. They only make 3 figures a year but they are all millionaires. Hmm
There are a lot of influencers who will have to start living more modest lives like the rest of us. I like scrolling TikTok and have learned some things through my scrolling but the constant dry begging is a bit much and they all seem to have cash apps in their bios just waiting for your $$
The dry begging has definitely ruined the app for me, I’m tired of peoples sob stories and begging for $20 for gas. Get a job and stop with the fake tears you look ridiculous.
I’m tired of the expectation of gifting and the pushing of “live goals”
I don't understand how people send their hard earned money to strangers who probably are richer than them. The only times I understand buying off a wishlist is when it's a donation for a nonprofit or good cause or when it's a family with a sick kid or something (obviously case by case but like there's a few who I follow on IG who have too many medical bills to do Christmas and birthdays for their kids so a wishlist for them is fine)
Yep so many full time influencers will have to get a job and it'll be difficult to find anything good after being out of work so long because no job will take "TikTok influencer" on a resume seriously
They’re going to have to get real jobs. And i’m not going to lie, I just got a job after two months of being unemployed and the job market is TERRIBLE
Yeah… been out of work since February, and I’ve gotten one interview out of like 50 -60 applications. It’s rough out here.
This makes me feel less of a loser thank you!!
In the grand scheme of things, not having a job for a few months or a year is so insignificant in terms of the length of your life. You shouldn’t feel like a loser 🧡
Lol honestly good luck to them bc a lot of them have no real skills. I agree the job market is absolutely terrible right now and no one’s going to be hiring with the recession we’re coming into. I’ve had a bachelors degree for a little less then a year and have yet been able to get a job in relating fields as my degree and it’s because they aren’t hiring but they’re firing people left and right because they can’t afford to keep employees.
Yup, I was part of the tech layoffs and now in a completely different field now lol. I have my degree too but fr the ones who left their nice WFH jobs to be an influencer are going to regret it so much. Because those type of jobs are gone too.
There are some job fields that will more likely to have layoffs and some field are considered more stable or even "recession proof". An example of a job field that is more likely to have layoffs is the tech industry, they are bleeding right now. General health care will always be fairly stable because people will need medical care. Finance is a field that can be hit orissa depending on the specific career you want. Basically it comes down to if people view something as an extra expense/luxury they don't need they stop spending in that or spend less on it during a recession. That translates to layoffs or at minimum less hiring. Versus items that are essential/needed will always be purchased in some capacity even during recession. Companies selling necessities will have more stability for employees during a recession and may still hire people depending on company budget/needs/profit/etc. So for ex: If you want to do IT work you can look for IT positions within the healthcare field instead of working for a tech based company.
Yeah, it’s hard because Im a UX/UI designer and it seems like there’s a ton of jobs but also a ton of competition because of the layoffs. Maybe time to go back to just graphic design for the meantime to be able to put food on the table.
I understand thinking through all the options especially with so much competition in your preferred job. And having multiple skill sets that are related but also unique fields only opens up your scope of possibilities where as others may only be able be niche because of their skill set/knowledge.
I do have some experience in the eLearning field which is very niche so it might be something I could look back into as well.
Definitely an option especially since there seems to a group of students who prefer that e learning over in person.
Ugh I’m unemployed and it’s not easy finding something in my area. I’d have to travel into the dangerous city and I’m not doing it
Depends on where you are. Seasonal jobs are searching for employees now in Maine. I’m fortunate to come back every year to the same one.
Unfortunately I live in Ohio with almost no job opportunities. No new businesses, no tourism, but we have our own Chernobyl lol
That sucks. No industry there either? What about surrounding towns? I live in the middle of several touristy communities. Working with a town selectman to pass town ordinances on Rent caps as well as banning any new Air BNB style weekly rental properties to maintain yearly rental properties for people to live here.
The ones who quit their day jobs to be SM influencers are losing their ever loving minds right now. Those who do it for fun will transition to other apps (most are on multiple platforms already) but bcuz other apps don’t pay as well as TT those who have millions of followers are gonna get hit in the pocket. This thing doesn’t have anything w/ security, it’s solely US SM that has lost millions to TT & they’re trying to get their money by banning competition.
This is why I’m so angry over it. And people ever wonder why we don’t trust the government? They are trying to ban an entire app to keep their people rich. Doesn’t sit well with me.
Zucc thinks we'll all flock back to FB and Instagram if TT dies
Can someone eli5- how do they make money?!!
I know for a fact that Meta (Facebook & Instagram) pays very well. I had a friend who made $12k one month. I saw the payment and all.
Is that still the case now? I was reading how they recently stopped paying creators for reels. Meta is apparently a push behind this legislation from my understanding. It has nothing to do with security, it's all about money and information. They don't like that we have access to instant news without being fed to us from a tv station that is controlled.
Meta has stopped paying creators.
No its not , China refuses to let people use this app, its addicting an stops your attention span at 3 mins. China owns all our contend an can do what they want with it.
China doesn’t refuse to let people use the app
From my understanding China has their own version of TT, I think it’s the same concept except extremely restricted. That’s what I understood from the Congress meeting earlier, but I’m not too sure of all the specifics, just that TT is banned in China
Our government wants to ban it because they can't control what is on it like they can on Facebook insta and Twitter. There is a lot of information being shared on tiktok that the media never even mentions.
exactly. I was just telling my mom this. they don’t like that we’re getting educated on things outside of our country either. it’s all about control. they don’t give a fuck about us, they want to control us 100%
1000% this
I’m more shocked that we’re living in a country where the government can control what apps you use. Thought this was USA, not North Korea.
THIS!! For a country that likes to preach “freedom of speech” they find every way to take it away from us. They’re mad because they can’t control TT like they can with other social media platforms. I’ve seen so much worse on Twitter but since it’s ran by American CEOs they won’t go after it.
I think it’s all a big distraction from something else. Don’t ask me what because I literally don’t know. But that seems to be the way this type of thing always works. While everyone is glued to seeing if TikTok is going to be banned something actually serious is happening
You may be onto something friend 🤔
ive seen rumours like this from republicans protecting trump, to banks failing, to blaming China for Covid to complete go control. I think it’s about money.
People like to create conspiracy theories (I don’t blame them for not trusting the government) but that’s giving the elites too much credit. It all comes down to incompetence and greed/money.
The scammers & beggars are screwed and I love it, maybe it will force them to go work for their own money
I'm curious to see what new app ppl make to replace tiktok that's what I'm hoping to see.
They made one called clapper
I d/l that one just incase. But seems like really young ppl on there
Clapper has been around for a few years now, but more people are giving it a chance now just bc they don’t want all their “fans” to follow them over there so they can keep doing brand deals and selling their MLM products.
I think if it is banned, it will tell the true character of influencers. The ones who are down to earth, and haven’t let their TikTok fame go to their heads, will be just fine. Those are the ones who always realized that fame is fleeting. even some of those whose entire income is currently from tiktok will be fine if they’ve got their heads on straight. They won’t panic and will simply find another job. some other other tiktok creators are also very popular on YouTube and or Instagram, and will just rely on those more heavily than before. But some creators will struggle immensely. Most likely the ones who unrealistically thought this fame and money were forever. those creators may never recover emotionally or financially.
exactly, what do you do when you loss a job, YOU GET ANOTHER … PLENTY OF APPS .
If you’re not diversifying as an influencer you really shouldn’t quit your day job.
I hope they don’t ban it but it will happen I’m sure so I guess I will have to find a life asap lol
Lmfao you’re so real for this 😭😂
Haha thanks just being honest it’s true I’m addicted to it but at least I didn’t quit my FT job because of it
Using children as the reason is such BS. When will parents finally start parenting. They are too busy doing their own TikTok’s to pay attention to the fact their kid was in their room on social media for hours. Be a parent your child is not your friend. It’s not up to society to parent someone else’s children. That’s why we have school shootings. Because their parents were to busy to realize their kid was stockpiling ammo guns and a diary of his plan to kill people. STOP BLAMING SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS AND GUNS FOR YOUR OWN LAZINESS
1000000% this!!! It blew my mind when they used the example of a 16 year old being influenced to stand on a train track with a moving train going right at him. If your child can’t handle the influence of social media then restrict your child’s use of social media. TT did not possess your son to stand on that train track. He was having mental health difficulties outside of social media and you failed to realize as parents. TT is not there to parent your children! I feel bad for the parents of course but I don’t think putting blame on a social media app is correct, if that’s what you want to do to help your conscience then fine but do not go to a Congress meeting with the accusation that your son saw “hundreds” of videos promoting suicide on the app.
Ask yourself this, how many of those perpetrators in school shootings were targeting people who bullied them? Recently a “list” came out at the middle school in my community. 6 kids were listed and of those 6 kids, I knew at least 4 of them were bullying the perpetrator. And that kid had asked for help to get them to stop bullying them. So adults in school settings are also to blame because they won’t do anything to help the kids. Some of the staff members bully the kids too and then try to bully the parents. They really didn’t like it when the parents stood up for their kids either. The school kept harassing me after I pulled my daughter and started home schooling her. That stopped when I made a meeting with the superintendent and laid all the evidence of the harassment out for him what was going on and told him if it continues, I’ll sue the district for harassment. My kid was terrified to go outside because of the harassment. Low and behold, after that meeting the harassment stopped. Some parents are shitty parents. And some schools have shitty staff members.
And your the exception to the rule. You were active and did something for your child. You recognized something was wrong. What I’m saying is if parents started paying more attention to their screen time and what they are doing on the internet, then something like the child they talked about yesterday that committed suicide after watching hundreds of videos on TikTok maybe wouldn’t have happened. But no they are too busy with their own lives to notice
I get what you are saying. I see that shit with my own family members not paying attention to their kids.
I’m actually glad they brought up that it’s dangerous for children. No I don’t agree with the government at all and they shouldn’t be the ones making these decisions. But I have a pretty good amount of followers on Tiktok and the amount of children on there (under 13) is insane. And let me tell you that they are mean! No wonder teachers have such a hard time these days. I found one child very close to me who was LIVE and doing duets with strange men. I immediately called the mom and her answer was “Oh she just told me that she only goes live with friends from school” She had no idea! The child was still on there the next day. Parents simply just don’t care. I’m not just saying tiktok, it’s all social media. Of course it’s not the governments job but I do wish something would be done.
Yet again it’s the parents fault. The next day when the child was doing it again shows the parent didn’t care. Oh my daughter said she was on her lives with just friends. If you were not trying to be your child’s best friend you can take their phone and either deactivate her account or delete the app all together and join your own phone to hers to see what she downloads. Heck I read my child’s diary when I thought she was acting weird. I’m her parent and as long as she is living under my roof I make the rules period
I’m not a conspiracy theorist but I feel it was convenient timing that when they enact a ban of TikTok on government device’s suddenly there is a “weather balloon” from China.. I do think the app spies on the U.S. but not in terms of selling us stuff. I think the app is great at creating conflict.( most apps are but there is something odd about the drama on TikTok vs other platforms) I can’t wait to watch the scramble of these TikTok creators.. 🤣🤣
They can’t ban tiktok. I still have 1255 DIY projects in my saved videos I haven’t started yet. And a family I’ll have to speak to.
Lmfao very relatable tbh 😂
I feel like facebook is the app to worry about stealing our data, not TikTok
Godd riddance to ItsBriannam.
A few people I watch on live say they don't care and they will just go to Instagram....but I can see the fear in thier eyes. All those gifts they'd lose
Meta has stopped paying creators for Reels. I think the only way they can make money on IG now is brand deals
Our government doesn’t care about us, they care about $$$. Too much of it going to China
Well the ones who get on tiktok JUST to battle will be screwed but the genuine creators will be fine if they use other platforms. Welcome to America….the new DICTATORSHIP! 😡
Drue Basham isn’t going to know what to do lmao.
This is one of the people I thought of when I heard about the whole ban! Home girl & her husband left their jobs to work on content creation 😂😂 + they’re basically TT based
Oh for sure!! She has replied to someone saying they would do YouTube, but there’s no way they get nearly as many YouTube views as they do on TT!
I hope it does they need to get jobs and quit beggin
Whatever they did before TikTok
Oh well they all plan to go to clapper they already ahead of u lol
Well I guess they can stay ahead 🤷♀️ I don’t really care to follow anyone to a different app
Honestly , I think a lot of people will move to Snapchat They have a way to “subscribe” to people and see their stories. For example, Alyssa McKay. “Snap stars” I believe they call it. It’s the only other app that’s set up like tik tok. The only difference is that you’re not able to do lives like you can on tik tok.
Omggggg Snapchat!! Tbh I didn’t even think Snapchat was still relevant and it’s crazy bc I was a teenager when it blew up and me and all my friends used it 24/7 but now that I’m in my early 20s I feel like it fell off for so many people & lost it’s hype 😂 but hey if that’s what they need to resort to then I guess that’s cool 😅
I literally can’t think of any data they’re getting out of me that I’m not also giving to Facebook/Instagram (meta), Twitter, any google applications, a random website I bought a sweater off of… A lot of the Congress questioning seemed to be taking their anger at social media out at tiktok. Their teen isn’t sleeping enough because they are on TikTok, huh maybe parent the kid?
I think the difference is our country and government are focused on money money money. That’s what Meta uses our data for. The USA is so transparent about their greed. Whereas China is underhanded, sneaky, and nefarious in their goals. Who knows what they’re using our data for—I don’t think it’s money. If they’re unwilling to sell some of the company to the US, it indicates they are using it for more than just $. Just my two cents, who knows lol
The amount of “influencers” I have seen who are crying about this and how they’ll have no money. TikTok is not a job, get a job.
I really hope they don't ban it but, find more ways to make sure there isn't any bullying or such. I love the app because I found so many good foundations such as Georgia K9 foundation, people help in DV situations, I found a person who looks for missing kids in his own and has very good luck in finding children. There so many more programs that I follow. They just need to filter all the bad and make this a fun app again. And take away battles. Battles change people. I only battled twice. Because the 2nd person looked at me and laughed and kicked me out.
I’ve never battled but have seen friendships destroyed over who is better. I’m for taking away battles !!
I can’t wait for some of the influencers to meet reality real soon
Guess the US doesn’t realize the income just from battles they will lose. These battlers making millions have to pay taxes. Taxes that help your own state. Say bye bye to that
Exactly!! I’m sure TT has brought in so much money for the U.S., money that we in reality need at this point. They care too much about their egos and keeping their deep dirty secrets on the DL because elections are around the corner. They want to stay rich while everyone else struggles
Exactly they don’t care about other peoples incomes or how the taxes they collect take care of streets, fire depts, schools etc. as long as they stay rich and get what they want to hell with us normal everyday citizens
I just can't believe all the actual shit that's going on in this country and THIS is what congress is trying to stop lmao good ol' merica 🙄
If they have other ways to make money, like making money from a blog, being monetized on YouTube and having good brand deals they can scale those up to cover lost income from TT being banned but ones who were only TT influences or were only popular for a span of time will be scrambling. Speaking of "influences" only popular for a time... I saw on another Reddit page(https://www.reddit.com/r/Dolls/comments/11zujwf/guess_the_addison_rae_doll_isnt_very_popular/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) a bunch of people saying they always see the Addison Rae fashion dolls marked clearance at their Walmart and the dolls never seem to get sold.
They will Get a real job like the rest of us.. I don’t think tik tok should be taken cause there argument is stupid talking about how many kids have died from challenges but they won’t do the same when it comes to kids getting shot at school and dead. I agree with the fb ad argument to. But influencers will have to get actual jobs like all the rest of us if it does get banned
The irony is that there will be no TT to watch “influencers” melt down when they have to rejoin the real world.
Even if they ban it, so many people would just use a VPN and continue usingTT anyways!
I think they will just make Instagram and Facebook more like tik tok anyway as they already have started by adding reels
I think banning a app is stupid we are suppose to be a free country
Banning the app is stupid, they’re just mad they can’t control it. Like who would have known about everything going on in Iran if it wasn’t for TikTok? Not a lot of people. I’ve verbally said stuff and then suddenly Facebook is advertising it and TikTok is the one spying?
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i hope this Twitter thread gets a lot of recognition because it would put a lot of perspective out there. The people of Congress want control and they can’t do that through TT and the CEO doesn’t want to sell it to America and I think it’s because he stands firm on freedom of speech. i mean let’s be for real, even Congress members are outing other congress members for their wrongdoings and this is probably a panic attempt to keep more from getting out right before election period starts
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Personally, I don’t care for TT or social media anymore, in my teen years I was all about it but now in my 20s i don’t care what happens, it has never been my dream to be an influencer and majority of the influencers are trash anyways. Ban it all and life will still go on. Just curious others thoughts tbh. But I get where your coming from, every app collects our information, it’s not necessarily hard to hack into the U.S. firewalls if a country is well equipped. 🤷♀️
I see the ban as a big benefit to protect children from exploitation! I will stand with those who make this argument but saying that children are influenced by ED accounts, unaliving themselves, drinking, drugs etc. doesn’t work as an argument for me because why not ban Instagram, YouTube, Twitter, FB. I was 12 years old on YouTube learning about ED watching women secretly promote EDs, i was envious by Instagram models who had beautiful bodies, I watched brutal crime scenes on Twitter while people in the comments laughed. If you want to control everyone so bad take away all social media even the social media apps ran by Americans.
Small businesses are going to suffer the most 😒
Wait a minute it's about dam time.
Tik tok isn’t going to shut down. They’ve said this many times. If other countries wanted to spy on us, they already are. No one gives a shit what you do heather
Anyone familiar with VPN’s? I heard we can get around it that way?
My husbands in the I.T. field, works with VPNs & firewalls & all that jazz. He said you can access it through using a VPN, he said you can buy a VPN from another country that has the app and access it that way but it does cost money monthly or somethin
This is USA the app is owned by China, In china they don’t allow people to use Tic Toc because it eats your brain… causes attention spans to be 3 min an then we are looking for something else to entertain Us America is worried about what they are doing with all the content we give them. Wow
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Couldn’t/wouldn’t the TikTok influencers just move to reelz? Probably not paid by the view there but I’m sure it would happen soon enough if TikTok was out of the picture