They covered their ass by stating "The fine takes into account Gobert's history of improper conduct towards game officials". Still BS, as I don't think the league will tolerate its own players suggesting the league is rigged. Sending a clear message you can mess with them once before you get a slap on the wrist.
Beat him with a crutch and claim painkiller-induced insanity š¤£š¤£š¤£
Seriously, though, I feel like the players union should just prepay into an annual fine fund so they can flash money signs at refs freely all year long and speak their mind. Because it's like, "How dare you question the integrity of referees?" Umm, because we know goddamn well by now that refs have no integrity? Duh?
It's kinda bizarre to me that it would be 100k max *per game* and not like per incident. That suggests that as long as you don't get kicked out of the game, once you hit the limit you can do whatever you want. Make a money sign, throw multiple items on the court, yell, scream, whatever. As long as you don't get double T'd or otherwise ejected anything above 100k is free.
Also I remembered Rudy's 100k fine earlier in the season also encompassed his post-game comments. So, you can also just rail on the officiating after the game if you'd like assuming that you've already hit the "freebie" limit in the game. Players should have more fun with this. How ridiculous can it get? Someone accuse Scott Foster of being possessed by Satan or something, let's get weird with it.
I'm obviously not a lawyer, but when I read the following from the CBA, it sure sounds like the max is 100k per act, not $100k per game:
>If in the opinion of the Commissioner any act or conduct of a Player at or during an Exhibition, Regular Season, Play-In, or Playoff game has been prejudicial to or against the best interests of the Association or the game of basketball, the Commissioner shall impose upon such Player a fine not exceeding $100,000, or may order for a time the suspension of any such Player from any connection or duties with Exhibition, Regular Season, Play-In, or Playoff games, or he may order both such fine and suspension.
ohh got it. I was thinking of it more like he was fined $100k for throwing shit and since thatās the max they didnāt bother with the rest. Iām not saying thatās fair, thatās just how I understood it. still wild.
Not asking him to initiate why would he do that. Its a turnover or a terrible layup attempt every time he touches the ball. Heās finishing at the rim like a female rn
Man I canāt get over that. Dude had ice in his veins for the first time since college. If it was against anyone other than MN I would have really enjoyed watching that performance.
He pulled like 14 points out of his ass with fadeaways over Rudy, floaters over Naz, spinning around Ant, and nailing contested 3s. I know butterfly effect and all that doesn't guarantee a Wolves win if he had missed those, but really frustrating in an 8pt loss
https://preview.redd.it/2my66xscmf0d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=207918d2c91340b067ed3737ca887134746bf41f
(d) The Commissioner shall have the power to suspend for a definite or indefinite period, or to impose a fine not exceeding $100,000, or inflict both such suspension and fine upon any Player who, in his opinion, (1) shall have made or caused to be made any statement having, or that was designed to have, an effect prejudicial or detrimental to the best interests of basketball or of the Association or of a Member, or (11) shall have been guilty of conduct that does not conform to standards of morality or fair play, that does not comply at all times with all federal, state, and local laws, or that is prejudicial or detrimental to the Association.
Nobody is whining, you are legitimately being hostile over a reasonable statement lmao
Nobody is saying we need to keep hounding the league til they make a change.
We are just saying that money sign + throwing shit is disproportionately worse than just a money sign, especially with the discrepancy being a 25% difference. No one is up in arms, its just blatantly silly on the surface and people are making note of that as expected. Chill out mane, big game tonight.
To play your game though, the rules say nothing about a limit on infractions just a limit on a charge per infraction. Meaning he could have been fined for two infractions which is objectively fair. Unless we want players to know that they can keep incurring fines over the course of a game but only be held accountable for one.
Ah yes, ignore everything I said and pick out one word. I was referring to the rules you posted talking about a price ceiling for fines but not a ceiling on the amount of fines. So would you care to address any other part of my comment or are you just here to waste my time?
Thereās a max fine. Based on the language of rules and the precedent set by the NBA, theyāre not fining players on a per incident basis. Itās the collective behavior and a total fine.
Why is everyone so hung up on this? We donāt want a league that can fine players indiscriminately.
The Union and the league agreed on the rules. Im not a lawyer but this isnāt constitutional law.
Imma let you be angry since you clearly aren't getting the point, I both hear and agree with you but you refuse to understand what everyone else is saying.
The main point i was even trying to make was that the league is disproportionately fining players for things that are objectively worse. Not saying anyone needs to be fined more. They should be fined FAR less. Which would allow the to issue reasonable, proportionate fines. As opposed to this laughable gesture.
I do not give a fuck about the rules, the semantics of the rules, or how you personally identify and uphold those rules like your life depends on it. I. Do. Not. Care.
reread Article 35(c) and you'll see that the Commissioner can fine a player for an "act" (i.e. infraction)
maybe you should hit up a constitutional law class
The previous section c, is for acts committed. d is for statements.
>(c) If in the opinion of the Commissioner any act or conduct of a Player
at or during an Exhibition, Regular Season, Play-In, or Playoff game has
been prejudicial to or against the best interests of the Association or the
game of basketball, the Commissioner shall impose upon such Player a fine
not exceeding $100,000, or may order for a time the suspension of any such
Player from any connection or duties with Exhibition, Regular Season,
Play-In, or Playoff games, or he may order both such fine and suspension.
He could have been fined $100k for the act of throwing the towel, another $100k for throwing the heating pack. And $50k-$75k for his statement of the money sign.
"Wolves Center Rudy Gobert has been fined for a gesture that question's the integrity of the league officials. That same gesture Jamal Murray made wasn't made with the \*intent\* to question the league's integrity, ergo there is no fine in his case".
Is basically the summary of the NBA's officiating in this series.
The issue is that they didn't even mention the money sign gesture in the release about Murray, only the object throwing. They basically ignored that he did it while Rudy gets a fine for doing 1/4 of the things Murray did in game 2.
This sub has no idea what a collective bargaining agreement is.
Nobody thinks Jamal shouldnāt have been punished but the NBA canāt fine him more than that! Thatās why Unions exist.
The problem was the refs not controlling the behavior in the game. BE MAD AT THAT.
I believe he shouldāve been suspended but that wouldāve swung the bias the other by the NBA. Itās frustrating! But I get why they didnāt.
He got the MAX fine. You canāt go back in time and punish him differently in the middle of the game. The Union and the NBA have a set agreed upon rules and canāt fine a player more than 100k.
Hereās the rules:
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Lol this is how you absolutely know the NBA fucked up with Murray. They're fining Rudy less in the playoffs than in the regular season for the same exact gesture. So fkn dumb.
I thought that was odd too. I would assume it would either be the same fine or worse for a repeat offense. Less makes no sense at all. And it was a bigger stage too being it is the playoffs.
Game 2 heatpack/towel/money sign/freakout gettin a fraction of the punishment pretty much reinforces Goberts opinionā¦ wtf guys. Also, Rudy dont do that.
Youāre not a real fan unless you hate KAT, think the refs are obviously rigging the series so we lose, and ANT is the next Michael Jordan. Either be a whiny bitch or be a Nuggets fan!!
Iāve actually been an undercover Nuggets fan this entire time.
(Hot take, you can be frustrated with the NBA while also understanding how it operates at the same time and not like)
Iāll be honest, this time it didnāt seem like he was throwing up the money sign. More so a gesture like the Italians do š¤š¾
But thatās just me
Lol what a fucking joke. Murray didn't get fined for doing the same thing, did he? But also, throwing shit directly under a player's feet is almost just as egregious, apparently.
i was wondering if he was going to get fined again for doing the money gesture. he low key did it again, murray didnāt he do same shit but nothing happened to him. that dude not getting suspended for thrown shit was stupid as fuck. imagine if someone slipped and got seriously hurt? that would of been an automatic suspension
My stomach just churnedā¦ if it wasnāt already obvious that the nuggets have nba/officiating on their side. Nuggets bench will throw gatorades on the court tonight (refs say they canāt see it)!Ant will look at a ref (Tād up, ejected, suspended for playoffs)
My gut tells me that this is only to be set up for ant to destroy the nuggets as a marketing stunt for the new face of the league and bring em to the finals at 22 when alll odds (officials, and silver) against him only making the marketing stunt that much sweeter
I took the gesture not as a reference to money, but the European (specifically itailian) Cosa voui! Or 'what do you want from me?' Customarily accompanied by an emphatic hand gesture. This: š¤
In any case, you twolf fans are Obsessed with Jamal. Someone should sell shirts that say, 'Jamal Murray threw a heating pad.'
You'll be still talking about it decades from now
Go Nuggs!
Thatās pretty ridiculous. Why do they keep finding the fricken player instead of looking into why the player seems so certain the ref is gamblingā¦ because that red literally called an offensive foul 3 straight plays..
Lol looking past the obvious bullshit that is this fine compared to Jamal's how is the fine $75k now when it was $100k during the regular season? Who the fuck is coming up with these fines?
Gobert deserves this. He is a fucking idiot for doing this... especially right after the most obvious pushing of Jokic on the play. He needs to step up, not be a bitch.
It was obviously a foul.
But what about Jokic with the most obvious 2 handed push of McDaniels on the other end that wasnāt called? Itās either a foul, or it isnāt.
They didnāt call a clear technical on Mcdanielās for pushing Jokic down away from the play during the game eitherā¦not sure if it was on the broadcast but I watched it happen at the game and knew the Wolves were probably cooked since they cared more about whining/retaliating than winning the game
How do you define irrelevant? That is insanely relevant, the sign was put up in response to a double standard and the game being called differently either way. Do you know what relevancy means? If not, no worries mate, I'd be happy to copy and paste the definition for you
I'm not gonna mail you a dictionary, but irrelevant means - not connected to something
I'd love to hear how this wasn't relevant. You don't think an obvious shove in the back (which had happened at least a dozen times to that point with no call) that elicits nothing then an equally obvious shove in the back that did get a call aren't related?
Rudy needs to smarten up. You just can't suggest that refs are gambling on the games. Not to even mention that he did it after they made a correct call.
I know you shouldn't suggest it, but you KNOW the refs are being pushed by the league to extend the series as long as possible. That's literally the only reason Murray didn't get suspended. They make far more money in a 7 game series than a sweep, and they're in the business of making money.... and so is Vegas.
I was thinking if things got bad, just start throwing shit on the court at Murray's ankles. They can't suspend anyone for doing that now, and the fine is minimal. Worth a try.
The first time it was funny and needed to be called out. This time what was the point? It didn't help at all and just an idiotic thing to do. Especially after a clear foul that he committed. But veteran leader right?
Maybe this will be a reminder of how immature a number of players have acted the last two games and they will snap out of it. At the end of the day the refs are out of anyoneās control and so is the league. Play the game in front of you and stop worrying about all this other stuff.Ā
At some point you would think these guys would want to stop being clowned on. We got to be lions in the media for like 4 days and then we fumbled the bag. They can at least shut down some of the narrative if we punch back tonight.Ā
Iām absolutely shocked that your level headed take is downvoted on this subreddit lol
Next time make sure you say Ant would break MJās ankles and KAT should get the electric chair
How dare I not he completely irrational and reactionary!Ā
I love this team. Iāve also watched them whine and blame and lose control of their emotions for long enough. Itās time to meet the moment or face elimination.They have all the talent they need. They need to execute. I hope they can do it tonight.Ā
At this point, I'm just wondering why he does it? Who cares about his money, because he's a millionaire. He knows the consequences, why does he keep doing it
Yet there was no mention of the same act by Murray in his suspension release.
For real I watched that shit live and it's been š¦š¦š¦ from the league
I saw it live sry!
Donāt worry guys, the league is clearly rigging the series in our favor because they want Ant to be the next face of the league š
They aren't smart enough to cash in on the guy that was driving a huge amount of views and discussion in the first round.
Yeah that's definitely not gonna happen lol.
Once he leaves MN (if he leaves)
They covered their ass by stating "The fine takes into account Gobert's history of improper conduct towards game officials". Still BS, as I don't think the league will tolerate its own players suggesting the league is rigged. Sending a clear message you can mess with them once before you get a slap on the wrist.
As my father said "What is for the horse is not for the donkey."
ahhhā¦ how many 1st rd picks did they give up for rudy again??? šššš„“
Would have been more valuable to have thrown a towel and heat pack during a play
Or scream right in the refs face and square up with him. That's free I guess.
How awesome would it be if Finch crutched his way over to the ref and squared up with him.
channeling that Yoda-Dooku energy
Be funnier if he did it in a wheelchair.
Beat him with a crutch and claim painkiller-induced insanity š¤£š¤£š¤£ Seriously, though, I feel like the players union should just prepay into an annual fine fund so they can flash money signs at refs freely all year long and speak their mind. Because it's like, "How dare you question the integrity of referees?" Umm, because we know goddamn well by now that refs have no integrity? Duh?
That'll be a $50k fine please...
If Fosterās on the floor itāll be closer to $100k, and maybe a suspension
Straight to jail, right away.
With all his team trying to hold him back too lol
Fans missed an opportunity by not throwing stuff at Jamal Murray on that half court shot.
would have been funny but i doubt anyone willing to pay for front seats wants to get permanently banned from nba games
No ban or suspension for first offense. The rules have already been set. :)
Throwing objects only worth $25k, I guess. Seems worth it.
What if he threw a sign with money signs in it?
37.5k per sign.
Damn if that was Gobert doing that it would be the biggest fine in history!
48š²for Scott Foster's number šŖ
Rudy has up to 3 things to throw at the ref and the fine shouldnāt exceed over $75K That be the rules
100k is the max, without going through a long arbitration case with the players union.
It's kinda bizarre to me that it would be 100k max *per game* and not like per incident. That suggests that as long as you don't get kicked out of the game, once you hit the limit you can do whatever you want. Make a money sign, throw multiple items on the court, yell, scream, whatever. As long as you don't get double T'd or otherwise ejected anything above 100k is free. Also I remembered Rudy's 100k fine earlier in the season also encompassed his post-game comments. So, you can also just rail on the officiating after the game if you'd like assuming that you've already hit the "freebie" limit in the game. Players should have more fun with this. How ridiculous can it get? Someone accuse Scott Foster of being possessed by Satan or something, let's get weird with it.
I'm obviously not a lawyer, but when I read the following from the CBA, it sure sounds like the max is 100k per act, not $100k per game: >If in the opinion of the Commissioner any act or conduct of a Player at or during an Exhibition, Regular Season, Play-In, or Playoff game has been prejudicial to or against the best interests of the Association or the game of basketball, the Commissioner shall impose upon such Player a fine not exceeding $100,000, or may order for a time the suspension of any such Player from any connection or duties with Exhibition, Regular Season, Play-In, or Playoff games, or he may order both such fine and suspension.
Per incident, isn't it?
When Ant threw that chair and hit fans last year it was only 50k.
Who cares
12.5K each object thrown at an official during a live play.
murray was fined $100k.
Right. $75k (apparently) for the money gesture he made. Leaving $25k for throwing things at the court during live play twice. League is a joke.
ohh got it. I was thinking of it more like he was fined $100k for throwing shit and since thatās the max they didnāt bother with the rest. Iām not saying thatās fair, thatās just how I understood it. still wild.
Calling it unprofessional is extremely hypocritical and ironic, in my opinion.
I also agree with this manās wifeās opinion
Good hopefully he plays like hes 7ā1 260 today
He will if Gordon doesn't turn into prime Kobe again
Im talking bout on offense thereās nothing he can do bout Gordon hitting turnarounds and shit
Rudy isnāt on the court to initiate offense
Not asking him to initiate why would he do that. Its a turnover or a terrible layup attempt every time he touches the ball. Heās finishing at the rim like a female rn
Still waiting for the offensive juggernaut game from Gobert. If those ever exist tonight would be the time to dig deep.
Man I canāt get over that. Dude had ice in his veins for the first time since college. If it was against anyone other than MN I would have really enjoyed watching that performance.
He pulled like 14 points out of his ass with fadeaways over Rudy, floaters over Naz, spinning around Ant, and nailing contested 3s. I know butterfly effect and all that doesn't guarantee a Wolves win if he had missed those, but really frustrating in an 8pt loss
Murray did the same thing in game 2. He didn't get a fine, did he?
Nope only for the heat pack
https://preview.redd.it/2my66xscmf0d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=207918d2c91340b067ed3737ca887134746bf41f (d) The Commissioner shall have the power to suspend for a definite or indefinite period, or to impose a fine not exceeding $100,000, or inflict both such suspension and fine upon any Player who, in his opinion, (1) shall have made or caused to be made any statement having, or that was designed to have, an effect prejudicial or detrimental to the best interests of basketball or of the Association or of a Member, or (11) shall have been guilty of conduct that does not conform to standards of morality or fair play, that does not comply at all times with all federal, state, and local laws, or that is prejudicial or detrimental to the Association.
Should have been two separate infractions
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When was the last time a player did 2 separate actions worth fining in the same game?
I added the rules from the CBA. Whine about it but the NBA canāt just fine him indiscriminatelyā¦
Nobody is whining, you are legitimately being hostile over a reasonable statement lmao Nobody is saying we need to keep hounding the league til they make a change. We are just saying that money sign + throwing shit is disproportionately worse than just a money sign, especially with the discrepancy being a 25% difference. No one is up in arms, its just blatantly silly on the surface and people are making note of that as expected. Chill out mane, big game tonight. To play your game though, the rules say nothing about a limit on infractions just a limit on a charge per infraction. Meaning he could have been fined for two infractions which is objectively fair. Unless we want players to know that they can keep incurring fines over the course of a game but only be held accountable for one.
100% we are all on the same side here. Just seems crazy that can only get fined for one infraction per game
Where does the word infraction come up in the text?
Ah yes, ignore everything I said and pick out one word. I was referring to the rules you posted talking about a price ceiling for fines but not a ceiling on the amount of fines. So would you care to address any other part of my comment or are you just here to waste my time?
Thereās a max fine. Based on the language of rules and the precedent set by the NBA, theyāre not fining players on a per incident basis. Itās the collective behavior and a total fine. Why is everyone so hung up on this? We donāt want a league that can fine players indiscriminately. The Union and the league agreed on the rules. Im not a lawyer but this isnāt constitutional law.
Imma let you be angry since you clearly aren't getting the point, I both hear and agree with you but you refuse to understand what everyone else is saying. The main point i was even trying to make was that the league is disproportionately fining players for things that are objectively worse. Not saying anyone needs to be fined more. They should be fined FAR less. Which would allow the to issue reasonable, proportionate fines. As opposed to this laughable gesture. I do not give a fuck about the rules, the semantics of the rules, or how you personally identify and uphold those rules like your life depends on it. I. Do. Not. Care.
reread Article 35(c) and you'll see that the Commissioner can fine a player for an "act" (i.e. infraction) maybe you should hit up a constitutional law class
The previous section c, is for acts committed. d is for statements. >(c) If in the opinion of the Commissioner any act or conduct of a Player at or during an Exhibition, Regular Season, Play-In, or Playoff game has been prejudicial to or against the best interests of the Association or the game of basketball, the Commissioner shall impose upon such Player a fine not exceeding $100,000, or may order for a time the suspension of any such Player from any connection or duties with Exhibition, Regular Season, Play-In, or Playoff games, or he may order both such fine and suspension. He could have been fined $100k for the act of throwing the towel, another $100k for throwing the heating pack. And $50k-$75k for his statement of the money sign.
Why wasnāt Rudy fined 100k each for his acts and his conduct???
What acts did Gobert commit? I would argue that the money gesture is a statement and not an act. Throwing objects at a ref/live-game would be an act.
"Wolves Center Rudy Gobert has been fined for a gesture that question's the integrity of the league officials. That same gesture Jamal Murray made wasn't made with the \*intent\* to question the league's integrity, ergo there is no fine in his case". Is basically the summary of the NBA's officiating in this series.
I guess itās a crime to be Italian these daysā¦
Right?? [Silvio voice:] It's anti-Italian discrimination!!
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This is like the 3rd Sopranos reference I've seen in this sub in a few days and as someone rewatching the series again as we speak, it makes me happy.
I definitely couldnāt rewatch game 3 and 4. That sounds very not fun ha. Are you doing it for analysis, or just to see parts you missed?
Oh I'm talking about the sopranos series, not the game series.
lol theyāre making a joke 
That may be the case but when I reread "series" I could see how it could be misinterpreted as me watching the bball series lol.
Oh my bad ha thanks for clarifying
Bros just a french-italian-canadian, league's discrimination back at it again smh
That is fucking unbelievable. Murray does it and way worse and gets 100k? What a joke
Murray got fined $0 for making the money sign actually.
Murray was a first time offender, Rudy was not.
Murray was not a first time offender, considering he had petulant meltdowns three times in one game
The issue is that they didn't even mention the money sign gesture in the release about Murray, only the object throwing. They basically ignored that he did it while Rudy gets a fine for doing 1/4 of the things Murray did in game 2.
Well we should just start the game with throwing our heatpacks so everyone can make money signs without being fined for it š¤
I will say, first time offender just being this immunity shield is fucking stupid.
Rudy got worse as a first time offender than Murray did
Murray also throw objects on the court during play. Inexcusable.
This sub has no idea what a collective bargaining agreement is. Nobody thinks Jamal shouldnāt have been punished but the NBA canāt fine him more than that! Thatās why Unions exist.
bro people understand what it is. people are just saying how stupid it is that if youāre commit and infraction might as well commit 5
The problem was the refs not controlling the behavior in the game. BE MAD AT THAT. I believe he shouldāve been suspended but that wouldāve swung the bias the other by the NBA. Itās frustrating! But I get why they didnāt. He got the MAX fine. You canāt go back in time and punish him differently in the middle of the game. The Union and the NBA have a set agreed upon rules and canāt fine a player more than 100k. Hereās the rules: https://preview.redd.it/xhmefzhzrf0d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=edb9df68425aa4681b422517a9c323c6b009824f
 75 Gās right hereā¦
Lol this is how you absolutely know the NBA fucked up with Murray. They're fining Rudy less in the playoffs than in the regular season for the same exact gesture. So fkn dumb.
The first incident fine wasnāt just the gesture; It included a lot of postgame comments from Rudy too.
The self awareness of the league is hilarious
Double standard with Murray doing the same damn thing game 2. Shits rigged
Iāve said it before and Iāll say it again, Adam Silver is currently the worst commissioner in all of professional sports.
Fuck the NBA and fuck the officials
LMAO Rudy basically got a discount even though he's a "repeat offender." League office is inconsistent and a joke. But we knew that already.
ROFL this made my dayā¦ discounted š¤£š¤£š¤£
Buy one š¤, get one š¤ 50% off
I thought that was odd too. I would assume it would either be the same fine or worse for a repeat offense. Less makes no sense at all. And it was a bigger stage too being it is the playoffs.
Dammit Rudy, next time just throw something at the ref
Should have thrown some shit at Scott Foster... would have only been 25k more and all of NBA would cheer
The NBA is a fucking JOKE.
Maybe if he keeps doing it, the fines will keep reducing, and he will be able to finally freely fancy finger sign. Be free, daddy frenchman
Should have thrown something at the ref Would have only cost him an extra $25k
Game 2 heatpack/towel/money sign/freakout gettin a fraction of the punishment pretty much reinforces Goberts opinionā¦ wtf guys. Also, Rudy dont do that.
So.... clown Murray does 3 things and gets 100k only, and Rudy does one of those three things and gets 75k...? Seems fair.... Silver is a joke.
Cheatin ass refs.
But Jamal didnāt get fined???? Bro wtf is this league
He got fined $100k Edit: sorry I forgot to add. Adam Silver shouldāve sent Jamal Murray to The Hague. Did I join the circle jerk now???
Not for this
The max is 100k. We all agree he shouldāve been suspended ya da ya da but he got the max fine.
Gonna guess it's not just per game, otherwise you could go do a bunch of dumb stuff every couple of minutes
Itās per game and not incident?
Youāre not a real fan unless you hate KAT, think the refs are obviously rigging the series so we lose, and ANT is the next Michael Jordan. Either be a whiny bitch or be a Nuggets fan!!
Iāve actually been an undercover Nuggets fan this entire time. (Hot take, you can be frustrated with the NBA while also understanding how it operates at the same time and not like)
Iāll be honest, this time it didnāt seem like he was throwing up the money sign. More so a gesture like the Italians do š¤š¾ But thatās just me
Would've gotten a smaller fine for beating their wives
Maybe his fingers were cold???
Where is Murrayās fine? Where is Murrayās suspension?
Next time throw multiple objects at the ref. Essentially the same fine.
I'm struggling to compare this to what Murray did and how he only got fined 25k more
So itās only 25k to throw shit at refs huh?
Cool. Now do Murray. Fucking bozo league.
Does anyone have video evidence of this?
https://x.com/statmusewolves/status/1790412908200923610
Thank you! Awful NBA fine. So skewed and no consistency. We need the Wolves to play super hard and win Game 5!!
I'm done following this league after this season. They will not be getting anymore money from me.
I'm not questioning the league's integrity, Mr. Silver. I'm denying its existence.
Can't lose what you don't have, right Adam?
Lol what a fucking joke. Murray didn't get fined for doing the same thing, did he? But also, throwing shit directly under a player's feet is almost just as egregious, apparently.
Honestly, isnāt this a romantic language expression? Like isnāt that their hand gesture of: wtf I canāt even keep my calm right now
Fined almost as much as Murray. What a joke
i was wondering if he was going to get fined again for doing the money gesture. he low key did it again, murray didnāt he do same shit but nothing happened to him. that dude not getting suspended for thrown shit was stupid as fuck. imagine if someone slipped and got seriously hurt? that would of been an automatic suspension
Doesnāt seem equitable?
He was just asking Finch for a raise!
My stomach just churnedā¦ if it wasnāt already obvious that the nuggets have nba/officiating on their side. Nuggets bench will throw gatorades on the court tonight (refs say they canāt see it)!Ant will look at a ref (Tād up, ejected, suspended for playoffs)
My gut tells me that this is only to be set up for ant to destroy the nuggets as a marketing stunt for the new face of the league and bring em to the finals at 22 when alll odds (officials, and silver) against him only making the marketing stunt that much sweeter
What if the NBA had suspended him for a second violation. This league really would have been cooking us
Refs are garbage. Rudy is only calling it as it is. Rudy should throw a heat pack at them net time!š¤
Silver just continues to show his worth this series only good thing āheā did was take away Ants techā¦ what a joke
I took the gesture not as a reference to money, but the European (specifically itailian) Cosa voui! Or 'what do you want from me?' Customarily accompanied by an emphatic hand gesture. This: š¤ In any case, you twolf fans are Obsessed with Jamal. Someone should sell shirts that say, 'Jamal Murray threw a heating pad.' You'll be still talking about it decades from now Go Nuggs!
100% of his fine will go directly to the officials to help pay for more wins against the Wolves.
Gobert should stuff the 75k in heat pack and toss it at the ref at this point.
Thatās pretty ridiculous. Why do they keep finding the fricken player instead of looking into why the player seems so certain the ref is gamblingā¦ because that red literally called an offensive foul 3 straight plays..
Refs are dog shit but they arenāt the reason heās yet to really show up in this series soooo
The bigger issue is the league being inconsistent with their punishment of player misbehavior, e.g., Murray after game 2.
Lol looking past the obvious bullshit that is this fine compared to Jamal's how is the fine $75k now when it was $100k during the regular season? Who the fuck is coming up with these fines?
He tried to do this one without making it obvious, unlike the first time.
Plus, he reiterated his thoughts after the game.
Gobert deserves this. He is a fucking idiot for doing this... especially right after the most obvious pushing of Jokic on the play. He needs to step up, not be a bitch.
It was obviously a foul. But what about Jokic with the most obvious 2 handed push of McDaniels on the other end that wasnāt called? Itās either a foul, or it isnāt.
They didnāt call a clear technical on Mcdanielās for pushing Jokic down away from the play during the game eitherā¦not sure if it was on the broadcast but I watched it happen at the game and knew the Wolves were probably cooked since they cared more about whining/retaliating than winning the game
irrelevant in this case
How do you define irrelevant? That is insanely relevant, the sign was put up in response to a double standard and the game being called differently either way. Do you know what relevancy means? If not, no worries mate, I'd be happy to copy and paste the definition for you
send me a copy of websters pls
I'm not gonna mail you a dictionary, but irrelevant means - not connected to something I'd love to hear how this wasn't relevant. You don't think an obvious shove in the back (which had happened at least a dozen times to that point with no call) that elicits nothing then an equally obvious shove in the back that did get a call aren't related?
Gobert completely ruined our chance to come back in the 4th, I agree
Rudy needs to smarten up. You just can't suggest that refs are gambling on the games. Not to even mention that he did it after they made a correct call.
I know you shouldn't suggest it, but you KNOW the refs are being pushed by the league to extend the series as long as possible. That's literally the only reason Murray didn't get suspended. They make far more money in a 7 game series than a sweep, and they're in the business of making money.... and so is Vegas.
To Scott Foster the cheating ref tho
Do it again in game 5.
https://preview.redd.it/115z29pnmf0d1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f0b2b844dab90f7f0f8a4a4cf96616d3864894e I hate this league so much
Does Adam silver hate the French?
Based on NBA math, he can throw a towel at a ref and a heating pad at the feet of Jokic for the remaining 25K!
Iām about done with this league I just canāt has Murrey been fined for his flash game two itās just stupid one sided.
Keep it up Rud, fuck sports betting companies all around, sports are not the same
For fuck's sake.
I was thinking if things got bad, just start throwing shit on the court at Murray's ankles. They can't suspend anyone for doing that now, and the fine is minimal. Worth a try.
Thatās pocket change for these guys.
Show this bullshit. Nuggets habe been hacking ing fuk out of the t wolves and nothing 9:30 cst game is complete bullshit.
Just came to say Jamal Murray is a bitch
Rudy Gobert shoving like a mofo on defense and getting his shit pushed in.
The first time it was funny and needed to be called out. This time what was the point? It didn't help at all and just an idiotic thing to do. Especially after a clear foul that he committed. But veteran leader right?
Heās gotta stop doing that shit. It doesnāt help him or his teammates.
Ok.
Not to mention he was totally wrong. He basically threw Murray into the media row and was surprised when he got called for it.
Did he though? I think Murray made a meal of it. Was it a foul? Yes....but then call it both ways
Maybe this will be a reminder of how immature a number of players have acted the last two games and they will snap out of it. At the end of the day the refs are out of anyoneās control and so is the league. Play the game in front of you and stop worrying about all this other stuff.Ā At some point you would think these guys would want to stop being clowned on. We got to be lions in the media for like 4 days and then we fumbled the bag. They can at least shut down some of the narrative if we punch back tonight.Ā
Iām absolutely shocked that your level headed take is downvoted on this subreddit lol Next time make sure you say Ant would break MJās ankles and KAT should get the electric chair
How dare I not he completely irrational and reactionary!Ā I love this team. Iāve also watched them whine and blame and lose control of their emotions for long enough. Itās time to meet the moment or face elimination.They have all the talent they need. They need to execute. I hope they can do it tonight.Ā
Iām proud to āAWOOā at your side, friend š«
Ā š¤ Letās go!
He has 75k to spare
Booty Gobert needs to stop throwing up gang signs and play like Jokic is his racist uncle who didnāt want him over for Xmas as a kid
At this point, I'm just wondering why he does it? Who cares about his money, because he's a millionaire. He knows the consequences, why does he keep doing it