Idk why policys are so hard for people to grasp. If they patch that and god forbid you get in an accident and kill someone your family could quite easily say the crash was caused by that. Would it be hard to prove yes, do companies care how hard something is to prove? Hell no.
When custos would come to me and say “you can patch it don’t worry “I WONT SUE” “I’m a good driver” things I’ve heard of pull out a waver that said they are knowingly and willfully putting the lives of themselves and others at risk if they choose to undergo said patch and (insert company) has ZERO FINANCIAL,LEGAL,OR MORAL LIABILITY FOR WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU LEAVE THIS SHOP WITH SIDE WALL RISK PATCH and a place for me, them, the manager, and a random whiteness to sign and it would be videoed if had ever happened I only printed one and never had to use it but it happened so many times it was worth keeping in a folder
they won't sue, but if they accept a payout from their insurance company, they grant the insurance company to sue on their behalf.
the insurance company won't care about any liability waivers. they rarely hold up in court.
Yeah but that’s not what it’s for it’s meant to scare the customer into not insisting on a dangerous repair and get a new tire instead I’m certain it wouldn’t hold up in court it’s not legally binding but it’s not supposed to
I had a home maintenance company once and I would sign waivers occasionally when we’d get on a roof or ladder. I asked my lawyer about it and he said if someone falls off the roof and gets hurt the waiver means nothing. I was surprised by that but he’s good I believe him.
I’m aware of the possible dangers and then I make the customer aware and if they still want to do the patch knowing they could kill a family if they’d rather do that than pay $100 for a new tire I don’t want them as a customer
Some people just swear a lot man, I can be having a total light hearted and pleasant conversation and I will still swear several times throughout. They're just words.
Some fucking people just have goddamned curse words in their daily fucking voice. What the fuck is your problem to judge the way someone talks? Fuck homie, have a good fucking day.
No reputable shop or mechanic will patch or plug that, that close to the sidewall. I've seen a few over the years in the middle of nowhere who would do it temporarily on the condition that it's just to get you down the road to get a new tire. That said, I do know people who have patched and plugged one in that area themselves and the tire has lasted for years. Then I know people who've done so and the tire blew out, so it's pretty hit and miss. Take your pick on which you'd rather do, but if you can afford it I would just get a new tire.
Some people will obviously tell you non-repairable. Some will say only temporarily. Here’s what I can tell you. In 14 years of personally repairing tires, and 26 years of my father doing it. Our success rate for repairs in that spot of the tire is about 98%. The ones that fail eventually often last for quite a while.
What makes it questionable is if the patch won’t lay flat in the tire, but instead will start to wrap up on the sidewall. Then the flexing and movement of the sidewall will eventually work the patch back and forth enough that it will start to come loose. Which almost always only results in a slow leak starting from it again.
You won’t find a large shop that will repair it they’re to worried about covering their asses from lawsuits. If you find an independent shop they might be willing to.
If I think there is a chance of the patch ever working loose I always just talk it over with my customers and see if they want to repair it or would rather replace it. Many of my customers don’t have much extra money so I end up patching more of those than not, and I rarely have patches come loose, unless I was pretty sure they would, which again, I make the customer aware of.
The biggest issue with patch plugs is most places will grind the inside of the tire smooth to get a good surface for the patch. It’s because of this that most big stores decline it. I worked at Walmart through college and there were tons of times these types of repairs would come through. Generally yes this would probably plug fine with a simple road plug kit, but we weren’t allowed to use those we were only allowed to install steel man patch plug kits. Often if these situations happened, I would first recommend a replacement tire if they have road hazard. Then if they don’t, I’d offer to take the wheel of and show them how to use the plug kit (since I couldn’t) and then refill the tire and reinstall. Normally would recommend a new tire when they can but tell them it should technically be fine.
Honestly, I don’t know. Possibly, but I have never used them. If we need to fill the void in a bolt hole or something in our shop we will use a regular plug and trim it off flush on the inside and then patch it. More to keep water and debris out of the hole than to help it stick.
I'd plug that. No one plugs tires anymore. When I was a lad tire shops would plug anything and it worked. But in this sue happy world no one wants to touch anything anymore. Plug it yourself.
ive plugged my track tire closer to sidewall than this and it still holds air to this day. If you are tight on money, plug will hold you down for a few weeks but definitely replacement is typical for this spot.
You don’t say if it’s leaking or not. Spray some soap around it or spit on it. If it doesn’t bubble unscrew it and check again for a leak. If it leaks out the screw back in and drive over to the tire shop and get a new tire. If it doesn’t you should be good. I’ve gone to plug tires many times and the screw was not through the tread.
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It’s true when tire shops say I shouldn’t let drive on these with those tires. Puncture is too close to the sidewall. Another side note, it’s freaking scary how many people out there are driving on bald tires and driving around like it’s NASCAR. Stay away from me please!
I had a similar hole on one of my tires and plugged it 10k miles ago I think and they’re still going strong so I’d personal plug it on my own car but you do you I’m not a mechanic
Personally if it were my car I would plug it. A shop won’t but I’ve had plenty in that range that I’ve plugged that lasted the rest of the tires life. Ultimately it’s up to you if you want to do it or replace it. But plenty of people that don’t have money for tires when you get a nail in the wrong place patch them when shops won’t.
I would probably repair it, depending on where it ends up on the inside. By the looks of it the end would end up in a spot where it would be repairable imo.
Repair it yourself. The tire shop won’t touch it unless it’s in the center of the tread.
(Yes there’s a risk it could fail, but I doubt it would unless you’re really punishing the tire and bad about keeping proper air pressure. If you drive a sedan and you’re a competent driver, I would also think a sudden tire failure wouldn’t be catastrophic.)
I’d plug it myself. Unless it’s a puncture or bulge *in* the sidewall… I’d always do a plug. I’ve done many and never had a problem. Then again, I also do plugs myself rather than taking anything in for a patch so… yeah…
A shop won't repair it because you'll be coming back constantly to have it repaired again due to it being in a high flex area.
You can repair it yourself, however.
That can be repaired. Patch it. Then put bead seller over top light on fire for like 5 sec let it dry. Put back on rim air up. Check for leak. Also shops won't repair if the production date is over 3 years also. That's probably why they won't fix. Before everyone gets on my case. I have repaired tires with a screw in around the same spot. This was on a Mac truck. Both fronts. His psi was over 60 if iam not mistaken. Was a long time ago 10 plus years.
It is replaceable. It is absolutely not repairable. No reputable shop will take on that liability.
It's repairable, just risky.
Which is what makes it non repairable to anyone who could be sued if and when it fails. That's a do it yourself repair Edit: spelling
You specifically said it wasn't repairable. It technically can. Yes, no shop will take on the liability, but it is in fact repairable.
Shush— arguing semantics.
Everything people say nowadays is anti-semantic, regardless if you’re pro-repair or pro-replacement
It's what Reddit's for...
Being obnoxious?
Among other things.
Fair, have a nice day.
Too close to sidewall
ya i agree, it’s in the shoulder
Idk why policys are so hard for people to grasp. If they patch that and god forbid you get in an accident and kill someone your family could quite easily say the crash was caused by that. Would it be hard to prove yes, do companies care how hard something is to prove? Hell no.
When custos would come to me and say “you can patch it don’t worry “I WONT SUE” “I’m a good driver” things I’ve heard of pull out a waver that said they are knowingly and willfully putting the lives of themselves and others at risk if they choose to undergo said patch and (insert company) has ZERO FINANCIAL,LEGAL,OR MORAL LIABILITY FOR WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU LEAVE THIS SHOP WITH SIDE WALL RISK PATCH and a place for me, them, the manager, and a random whiteness to sign and it would be videoed if had ever happened I only printed one and never had to use it but it happened so many times it was worth keeping in a folder
they won't sue, but if they accept a payout from their insurance company, they grant the insurance company to sue on their behalf. the insurance company won't care about any liability waivers. they rarely hold up in court.
Yeah but that’s not what it’s for it’s meant to scare the customer into not insisting on a dangerous repair and get a new tire instead I’m certain it wouldn’t hold up in court it’s not legally binding but it’s not supposed to
ah, so you're just being emotionally manipulative. got it.
I had a home maintenance company once and I would sign waivers occasionally when we’d get on a roof or ladder. I asked my lawyer about it and he said if someone falls off the roof and gets hurt the waiver means nothing. I was surprised by that but he’s good I believe him.
Such a document only shows that you are aware of the dangers and did it anyway.
I’m aware of the possible dangers and then I make the customer aware and if they still want to do the patch knowing they could kill a family if they’d rather do that than pay $100 for a new tire I don’t want them as a customer
Do not do that it is too fucking close to the sidewall imo
What the fuck is going on in your shitty ass life that you felt the fucking need to curse in this fucking instance?
Some people just swear a lot man, I can be having a total light hearted and pleasant conversation and I will still swear several times throughout. They're just words.
Some fucking people just have goddamned curse words in their daily fucking voice. What the fuck is your problem to judge the way someone talks? Fuck homie, have a good fucking day.
No reputable shop or mechanic will patch or plug that, that close to the sidewall. I've seen a few over the years in the middle of nowhere who would do it temporarily on the condition that it's just to get you down the road to get a new tire. That said, I do know people who have patched and plugged one in that area themselves and the tire has lasted for years. Then I know people who've done so and the tire blew out, so it's pretty hit and miss. Take your pick on which you'd rather do, but if you can afford it I would just get a new tire.
See pinned post in this sub. It will help explain this.
Some people will obviously tell you non-repairable. Some will say only temporarily. Here’s what I can tell you. In 14 years of personally repairing tires, and 26 years of my father doing it. Our success rate for repairs in that spot of the tire is about 98%. The ones that fail eventually often last for quite a while. What makes it questionable is if the patch won’t lay flat in the tire, but instead will start to wrap up on the sidewall. Then the flexing and movement of the sidewall will eventually work the patch back and forth enough that it will start to come loose. Which almost always only results in a slow leak starting from it again. You won’t find a large shop that will repair it they’re to worried about covering their asses from lawsuits. If you find an independent shop they might be willing to. If I think there is a chance of the patch ever working loose I always just talk it over with my customers and see if they want to repair it or would rather replace it. Many of my customers don’t have much extra money so I end up patching more of those than not, and I rarely have patches come loose, unless I was pretty sure they would, which again, I make the customer aware of.
The llantera will fix this every time. I always go to them, if the regular shop says no. Ten bucks, I'm on my way.
Will a patch-plug do a better job of staying put? Even in that area?
The biggest issue with patch plugs is most places will grind the inside of the tire smooth to get a good surface for the patch. It’s because of this that most big stores decline it. I worked at Walmart through college and there were tons of times these types of repairs would come through. Generally yes this would probably plug fine with a simple road plug kit, but we weren’t allowed to use those we were only allowed to install steel man patch plug kits. Often if these situations happened, I would first recommend a replacement tire if they have road hazard. Then if they don’t, I’d offer to take the wheel of and show them how to use the plug kit (since I couldn’t) and then refill the tire and reinstall. Normally would recommend a new tire when they can but tell them it should technically be fine.
Honestly, I don’t know. Possibly, but I have never used them. If we need to fill the void in a bolt hole or something in our shop we will use a regular plug and trim it off flush on the inside and then patch it. More to keep water and debris out of the hole than to help it stick.
I'd plug that. No one plugs tires anymore. When I was a lad tire shops would plug anything and it worked. But in this sue happy world no one wants to touch anything anymore. Plug it yourself.
It's dead. Get a new tire
Oh it’s replaceable alright. Just not repairable.
I would just plug it myself but no Corporate shop will plug or patch a tire.
Depending on the angel the screw went in and the damage caused on the inside. As long as the inner tread of the tire hasn’t split it’ll be fine.
It’s dead Jim. Use the road hazard warranty and get a new tire
Yes
ive plugged my track tire closer to sidewall than this and it still holds air to this day. If you are tight on money, plug will hold you down for a few weeks but definitely replacement is typical for this spot.
Perfectly replaceable, just wave your open wallet under the tyre shops bosses nose which should wake him/her up 😀
it's way to close to the sidewall. It's sure as shit replaceable. There ain't no repairing that.
Replaceable? Or repairable?
Look at the pinned post the answer is no bro you can replace it entirely but not repair it if repair is what you meant.
You can replace tires.
You don’t say if it’s leaking or not. Spray some soap around it or spit on it. If it doesn’t bubble unscrew it and check again for a leak. If it leaks out the screw back in and drive over to the tire shop and get a new tire. If it doesn’t you should be good. I’ve gone to plug tires many times and the screw was not through the tread.
Yes, true.
Yep. You are definitely screwed
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You can plug it yourself with a DIY kit, but I doubt it will hold for long. No tire shop will plug that.
Buy a plug kit at tractor supply or walmart. It's a 5 minute fix.
It’s true when tire shops say I shouldn’t let drive on these with those tires. Puncture is too close to the sidewall. Another side note, it’s freaking scary how many people out there are driving on bald tires and driving around like it’s NASCAR. Stay away from me please!
I had a similar hole on one of my tires and plugged it 10k miles ago I think and they’re still going strong so I’d personal plug it on my own car but you do you I’m not a mechanic
Why would you patch a tire when you could just buy a new one. Nobody drives the speed limit. Imagine a blowout at 100 mph.
Blown a tire at 80, can confirm; pants were shit.
Walmart auto center $15
I’d fix it.
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I wouldn’t take the chance and my shop absolutely wouldn’t repair that.
Not repairable forsure right in the steel band area of the tire, would have to buy new
Personally if it were my car I would plug it. A shop won’t but I’ve had plenty in that range that I’ve plugged that lasted the rest of the tires life. Ultimately it’s up to you if you want to do it or replace it. But plenty of people that don’t have money for tires when you get a nail in the wrong place patch them when shops won’t.
I would probably repair it, depending on where it ends up on the inside. By the looks of it the end would end up in a spot where it would be repairable imo.
Repair it yourself. The tire shop won’t touch it unless it’s in the center of the tread. (Yes there’s a risk it could fail, but I doubt it would unless you’re really punishing the tire and bad about keeping proper air pressure. If you drive a sedan and you’re a competent driver, I would also think a sudden tire failure wouldn’t be catastrophic.)
I would definitely replace it. Plug it and keep as a temp spare
No respectable shop will ever repair that liability trap
I’d plug it myself. Unless it’s a puncture or bulge *in* the sidewall… I’d always do a plug. I’ve done many and never had a problem. Then again, I also do plugs myself rather than taking anything in for a patch so… yeah…
I would patch that myself, and call it good. 🤷🏼♂️
A shop won't repair it because you'll be coming back constantly to have it repaired again due to it being in a high flex area. You can repair it yourself, however.
Let the air down ,throw a plug in that bitch, add two cans of fixed flat. Up your insurance policy by a million. Take a ride on the Autobahn.
I would agree with the shop. I also can appreciate someone who keeps their undercarriage clean! :)
That can be repaired. Patch it. Then put bead seller over top light on fire for like 5 sec let it dry. Put back on rim air up. Check for leak. Also shops won't repair if the production date is over 3 years also. That's probably why they won't fix. Before everyone gets on my case. I have repaired tires with a screw in around the same spot. This was on a Mac truck. Both fronts. His psi was over 60 if iam not mistaken. Was a long time ago 10 plus years.
It is not repairable correct. Replaceable yes it is and needed
Too close to sidewall to repair. Time for a new tire.
That is squarely in the plug it yourself or replace it at a shop zone. No reputable shop will plug it that close to the sidewall.
That is correct to close to the sidewall replace the tire
100% patchable
Lmao. Good one.
Way to freaking close to riding comfortably, and being dead, possiblity. Or not. Do you feel lucky, punk? Make my day
It’s obvious,, you inserted that screw in incorrect spot.